 Welcome to the studio, Julian. Thank you so much. You had a tough game today against Olga Giria, Russian Grandmaster. Tell us something about the game. I think my assessment on that game was that I saw maybe it would just draw immediately. But I just overlooked one slight disadvantage because of my separate bonds that appeared to be a bit hanging and shaking. Because you came down, you exchanged queens, you reached an end game with two rooks and opposite-colour bishops. You were hoping that this could be drawn. Yes, I just thought I don't know. This is roughly a draw, but later on... It became problematic later on in the game. Very, very, very. Okay, let's have a look at the game. Thank you. Okay, Julian, we're looking at the position after Blacks played rookie eight. It's your turn. What will happen next? I played rook f2d1, but I saw my other option was c5. But then again I saw queen d2. Queen d2 is the first one. Olga is going to bring more problems for White. Yes. So that's the more reason I refered from playing the pawn to c5. So you went in for rook fd1? Rook f2d1. Now after queen c7, this one, I saw that roughly my position is not bad. Although I can give a slide for Black because of his slide square bishop. Yes. And maybe some potential attack. Yeah. So in this case again, okay, I played bishop d6. Yes. So instead of this, I saw, again I saw that if I play c5, after takes here, then queen f5 was going to bring some more problems. Queen a5, yes. Yes, some more problems with the idea of bishop and later to d5. Bishop d7 there and later on too. Yeah. So c5, what's the next move? This immediately. No, no. Just take? Sorry. Okay. Just take here? Yes. Just take here. I'm highlighting the problems that can be considered. Wallace I am still cramped here. Then the other thing that I saw here, maybe I was to try to play queen to e3. Queen to e3. Attacking the c5 pawn. Yes. Again I just noticed that it doesn't pose any dangers for black because we just defend the pawn and still continue to threaten queen a5. After queen a5, white would then have to go back and then bishop would get passive. Is that the thought here? If the bishop returns, I think white loses the battle. Yeah. And now the advantage now would be clearly. Yeah, because the light square bishop is... It's too dominant. It's dominant. Whereas this bishop here obviously. So you would sort of come to this square and this square and then... Yes. Sorry, your opponent would come here and here. Yes. And have a good play on the light squares. Yeah, I understand. That's the more reason I never did play c5. So you avoided that? Yeah. Okay. So rook fd1 and your opponent played queen c7. That's the more reason I played bishop d6. Bishop d6. Yeah. I was trying to go into an opposite color. Yeah. I thought it was eco, but later on I discovered this is slightly better for black. Because of the isolated pawn. Yeah, yeah. If I push e4, then I saw bishop to e2 and to e3. Yeah, and then this pawn becomes very vulnerable on the square. And the c4 opens up immediately. Yeah. And it's quite hard to defend that with a bishop, isn't it? Because if you go there, it gets chased away with a pawn. And this doesn't feel very comfortable here. Yeah. Okay. Right, so you played rook d2. Rook d2. My idea for this move was to keep the light squares closed first. So maybe I should try to exchange on the queen side. Yes. And hope for a draw-ish end game. Yes. Yeah. So your opponent put pressure on your c4. That was correct. That was correct. Highlighting the weakness here. Then I decided to push e4. f3, I think was here. f3, okay, sorry. It seems logical, doesn't it? Put it on a white square against this light-squared bishop. Yes. Just to close up as well as try to bring the king closer. And of course, your opponent does a similar thing. Now, this is the move that puzzled me, because after black puts all the pawns here on the dark square, the mobility of this bishop becomes faster than mine here. Then all these rooks can double and a few threat on the queen side. Yeah. So that was a real threat that made me play a bit weaker. Yeah. I mean, this is classical play against the bishop, isn't it? This was an excellent play. You put pawns on the dark squares, and then this dark-squared bishop has a problem. And it also gives lots of nice white squares for this bishop. That was my real danger. I mean, you're doing the same thing here against this. But this is more effective against your bishop, isn't it? Because this diagonal isn't very useful for you, isn't it? No, there's nothing from there. So the only thing that I tried to is to exchange the pawns on the queen side. So that maybe my bishop can have some more space as well. Yeah. Yeah. Logical, yeah. So a4. Well, in fact, your opponent played a4 here, didn't she? Yes, I see. On this move, I thought black is better, but I can have chances of a draw after I exchange on the queen side. But on this, I saw just a moment. That's right. On again. Mm-hmm. Again. Yeah. Now, on a4 here. Yeah. Instead of playing this move, if I had played e4. Okay. If I had played this move, this appears to be a bit weaker on my part. Yes, although this is on a light square, so this is cramping the bishop slightly. Yes, yes. I thought maybe a rook. Okay. Yes. Well, there's a pawn on breeze here. The rook, the rook is still pinned. That's the problem, see. Now there's another threat of rook c6. Yes. And probably maybe taking somewhere a2. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's quite interesting, isn't it? So that's the more reason I avoided to play a4. Yeah. Yes, because. Okay. Yeah. After maybe taking on c3 or bishop returns, rook to c4, some attack can continue. Yeah. There's a lot happening in this position, isn't there? Very good. It was an interesting position. It is. Yeah. I was only a part side. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's one of those days, isn't it? So, I mean a4 looks very logical as well, doesn't it? Okay. So we played e4. E4 played here. Then I took. Captures, captures. F5. And you wanted to try and exchange a pair of pawns. Yeah, I thought king f2. King f2 instead of this, yeah. Yes. King f2. It's. It still doesn't look good for me. It looks. And when I play rook e1, I'm getting out from the plan of exchanging on the queen side. This pawn is very vulnerable now. Very vulnerable. And the ideas of rook e6 to f6 was the more reason I decided just to give away that pawn. Yeah. Yeah. It makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? Yeah. Okay. So a5. Yeah. h6 gets played. She's being very careful. On this move, I didn't understand the logic behind on this one. I wasn't clear what black was planning here. Maybe it's just a sort of waiting move to see what you do next. Maybe just to sort the backrank or something. I guess so. Yeah. I mean, eventually black has to play something like that just in case of backrank, I suppose. On here, I'd imagine maybe something like b5 would be played later. B5, yeah. Yeah. That's what I thought. Just to keep my hanging pawns on the queen side. Yeah. Because if I bring my bishop this side, it's closed up. It's as good as a pawn here. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, exchange happened when you play group b1. And she doesn't really want to play this onto a light square. I wanted the pawn to be on b5. Yes. But she doesn't want to do that. My chances of getting a draw were very high. Yes. Now my bishop can up c5 square and can help in some defense. She's playing very carefully here with this. Oops. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yours works better than mine. Okay. Yeah. She's being very, very canny here. But at least you have that square for your bishop now. On here, I thought maybe chain f2, chain f2. Instead of this move. Instead of bishop b4. If I do this. Yeah. I think just take. Yeah. Yes. Bishops come off and then it's a very difficult end game, isn't it? You really want to keep the bishops on the board. Yes. Because something like this I think I was lost. Yeah. Because there's no pawn here. Yeah. Laka's got an extra pawn. His king can come to the queen side and do some. It's hard to defend, isn't it? It's easier to attack and defend those kind of positions. So bishop b4 and now all these pieces came off. You played rookie one. Yeah. So you've given up your pawn. But you've still got chances here, haven't you? I had some chances. I thought it could draw. Yeah. Practically it's very difficult. Yeah. Okay. Shall we leave it there? We won't go to the end of the game. Yes. Okay. Thanks very much.