 format right now. I think it's the YouTube is having a the platform. Yep, got it. Yeah, I'm doing it the other way we did at the other day, Tom, just to try to get us off the ground quicker. Okay, it looks like we are live and good to go now. Yep. So my apologies everybody, but we are all ready to roll. Okay, great. So we are live and welcome, everyone. And thank you for participating. Today is Tuesday, June 6, 2023. And this is a public meeting of the Massachusetts Gaming Commission. We have only one item on our agenda for today. And that is to offer an opportunity to interested members of the public to share comments with us relative to the development east of Broadway, associated with Howard Boston Harbor. This is a supplemental meeting to the hearing conducted by the Commission on April 25, in person at efforts. Diddy Hall. My name is Kathy Judd Stein, and I'm the chair of the Commission. And since this is a public meeting, we're holding it virtually. I will now take our roll call to ensure that all commissioners are present. Good morning, Commissioner Hill. I'm a Commissioner O'Brien. Good morning, I'm here. I'm doing roll call order. Commissioner Hill. Good morning, I'm here. Good morning, Commissioner Skinner. Good morning. Good morning, Commissioner Maynard. Good morning. So the proposal being advanced is that the project will be constructed as a phased development across the street from Encore Boston Harbor on the east side of Broadway in Everett, Massachusetts. The Gaming Commission is currently considering the first phase of this development to determine whether to include the development or portions thereof as part of the gaming establishment. In order for any gaming or sports waging activity to be permitted in this new development, it would have to be included within the boundary of what we refer to as the gaming establishment. And to be clear, the commission will not be deciding whether to allow the development to be constructed at all. The authority to make the decisions associated with that, including the issuance of all required permits falls to other governmental entities. The commission will evaluate the request before us in further detail at future public meeting or meetings. And accordingly, the commission will not be voting today as to whether to include this new development in the boundary of the gaming establishment. In preparation for that evaluation, the commission is interested in any information or comments that the public may wish to offer relative to this development. Accordingly, your presence and insights that we look forward to hearing today will help the commission making its decision, and we thank you for being part of this process. Before we begin public comments, I would like to lay out the process and establish the ground rules we'll follow. This meeting is intended to afford an opportunity to offer input and comment on the development, and specifically as to whether gaming and sports wagering should be allowed. Did any entity or member of the public was interested? This meeting was not designed for anyone to offer opinions about gaming and sports wagering in general. Instead, we are slowly interested in learning as much as possible about the public sentiment for the project presently before us. Momentarily, we will open the floor to public comments to make the best use of all of our time. We ask that any member of the public proceed as follows in addressing the commission. First, if you pre-register to speak at this meeting, your name has already been added to the speaker list. Grace Robinson will call your name and you'll be moved from an attendee to a panelist. Your view may be briefly disrupted as you are being moved to that panelist slot. Once a panelist, you may then unmute yourself and turn on your video. Please state your name and tell us where you are from and who you are affiliated with prior to beginning your comments. Second, if you are streaming this hearing on our website and wish to be added to the speaker list, please email Grace Robinson at grace.robbinsonatmassgaining.gov. And again, I'll repeat that too. For anyone who's having technical issues, contact Grace and she'll figure it out for you, grace.robbinsonatmassgaining.gov. And she'll make sure to receive that you receive a link and be added to the list if you wish to speak. If there is time remaining after we have heard from all the pre-registered individuals, we'll open the floor to comments from any individual who has registered during this hearing. I believe we can anticipate that. Third, to ensure that everyone who wants to speak gets an opportunity to do so, we will limit individual comments to three minutes. A 15 second warning will be issued if necessary, and we will expect the speaker to begin wrapping up their comments. We may allow an additional 15 seconds if necessary. Fourth, this is not an opportunity for members of the public to ask questions of encore. If you have questions, please address them to the commission and we'll determine how to proceed from there. And of course, any commissioner may ask any question of a commenter at any time this is marked up as a public meeting as well as a public hearing. Finally, we recognize the great passion that many of you may have for this subject matter, often in different directions. We welcome your comments to reflect that passion. However, for this part of the process to achieve its greatest value, it's tremendously important that this course today remain respectful. This is one area that I know that we can all agree on. In sum, we wish to thank you in advance for taking the time to be with us this morning before we begin. Do any of my colleagues have any additional questions or remarks? Commissioners, I'll set. Okay. And of course, questions can come up and we have Executive Director Wells here as well as General Counsel Grossman and Grace and of course our communications team are available too for any tech issues or questions. Tom Mills and Dave Susan, we thank you. So with that, Grace will be introducing our speakers and we look forward to hearing these public comments. Yes, thank you, Chair. You will be introduced in the order in which you registered. So first one up is Jamie McNeil. Jamie, I will be moving you to a panelist now. Hi, Jamie. You should be able to turn on your camera and on to meet yourself. Thank you, Grace. And thank you, Chair and commissioners for the opportunity to talk today. My name is Jamie McNeil. I'm the general agent for the Hospitality Workers Union United Here Local 26. We represent about 12,000 workers regionally and 1,400 hospitality workers at Encore Boston Harbor. I just want to start off by saying thank you to this commission. You know, this commission has done really the hard work to make sure that every voice from every neighborhood is heard in regard to this application and I applaud the commission for that. You could have done the easiest, you know, the easier thing and kind of fast track this process but you have held multiple hearings, you know, done extensive outreach and you've incorporated what you've heard into your forthcoming communications with Encore and that communication really does reflect what all Massachusetts residents have said at these hearings and through public comment. So I just want to start off by thanking this commission for such a great process. I also want to applaud the commission for incorporating Section 18 and the other relevant sections that you've heard from Massachusetts residents about and other sections of Mass General Law 23K into this Category 1 gaming license application. As you know, Section 18 asked the commission to consider and I quote whether the applicant has included detailed plans for assuring labor harmony during all phases of construction renovation, reconstruction, development and operation of the gaming establishment. As of today, I regret to inform the commission that there is not currently a labor harmony commitment on all aspects of this applicant's operations across the street. So we look forward to further discussions regarding this application and I'll keep it prized of any future developments again. I want to thank you for the opportunity to speak and thank you for such an open and robust process. Thank you commission. Thank you Mr. McNeil and I'm just hopeful that you are not driving right now. We're actually at a training center opening at Madison Park High School, very exciting development with Mayor Wu here today. Oh that is exciting. But I'm very much part. We'll have to hear more about that training center. Thank you Mr. McNeil. Commissioners, are we all set? Thank you. Have a great day. Congratulations. Thank you so much chair. Thank you commissioners. All right and next up will be J.P. Feta. J.P. You should be able looks like you're unmuted and you should be able to turn off turn on your camera if you would like. J.P. are you there? It looks like you are unmuted and you should be able to see. It's like his mute function isn't working properly. Can you try speaking now Mr. Bechtel please? All right. Should he try star six? Is that another option? Chair I would suggest that J.P. try and select a different microphone on the little icon there that you see the microphone. There's a carrot and you should be able to select a specific microphone. It might be that the wrong microphone is selected. Do you have a suggestion as to which one? I do not because I do not know what microphone he has on his system. I unmuted myself. We have you Mr. Bechtel. Thank you. Thank you. I am not a mister. My apologies. I just wanted to say that I don't feel that Encore has kept its promises to the city of Everett. For example at the April 25th the meeting Encore said that 14% of their workforce is Everett residents. If our budget is to be believed that's 4,000 people. 14% of 4,000 people is 560 people out of a population of about 50,000. That's not a lot of jobs for Everett residents. We didn't get anything near the money we thought we were going to get when we voted the referendum for the original casino in 2013. We get a mere $20 million a year plus five plus million host community agreement. It doesn't come close to even covering our public services budget. Police and fire both of which calls have gone up substantially since the casino opened. So in light of the fact that Encore doesn't seem to have come through with what they said they were going to do forever even in either in the area of money or jobs and in in light of the fact that our traffic is insane since the casino opened and our taxes have gone up not down. I strongly feel that we need a separate referendum on the expansion east of Broadway and I would like to see the original referendum. I would like to see the original host community agreement have another vote on it or be amended because we didn't get what Wynn promised. Thank you. Any questions? And my apologies. I'll just refer to you as JP. Any questions commissioners? No, thank you for your your appearance today JP and I think we'll all set them. All right. Next up we have Elizabeth Derogi. Elizabeth you should be able to unmute yourself and turn your video on if you would like. Any tips? Well there we go. Good morning. Good afternoon commission and thanks for you to have opportunity to speak today. My name is Gregorio Amaro. I'm a proud Everett residence. How's my uncle, Boston Harbor. Thank you to consider what the type of job you're going to create a new project. Will uncle come to Everett? His many benefits used to create a good job. Right now we're asking uncle to meet some of the standards all junior hotel work are having in Boston. His modest proposals believe Everett residents deserve it. Thank you again to her out the president Everett. We're leaving working in a new project. I believe the project will able to lift Everett president up or drag us down. Make sure it's a good job. We'll raise Everett president up. Thank you. Thank you. Would you mind saying your name one more time and perhaps spelling your last name please? Gregorio Amaro. My last name is A-M-A-D-O. Thank you. All right. Any questions commissioners? We really appreciate you joining us today. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. And next up we have Paula Stairt. Paula I am promoting you now. All right Paula you should be able looks like you're unmuted and you may turn your camera on if you'd like. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay. Good morning. Good afternoon. Thank you for having the second public hearing. I do wish it was later in the day and better publicized in the city. I'm not sure how many people actually were aware of the meeting and accessing the link. So as I have shared in emails with the commission the voters in 2013-14 had no idea of the intention of expanding gaming beyond the current Monsanto site. The city, the mayors, lawyers, and the encor lawyers have talked about a map that included the other side of Broadway. There was no one in 2013-14 that had any idea that Monsanto had any access property across the way. The referendum specifically mentioned Monsanto not a low Broadway. The voters were essentially misled. The vote wasn't so much to support gaming but to reduce our taxes as Everett has lost and continues to lose businesses and commercial tax base. Gaming was supposed to provide good jobs and opportunity for the residents, improve traffic flow, bring back an MBTA stop, and invest in emergency services, invest in the community, and clean up the toxic site. The hosting agreement included Encore providing an annual report to the city on the employment of the residents and document the level of workers and also work with the state to bring back an MBTA stop. Both we haven't seen come to fruition. Everyone in Everett in the surrounding areas appreciate the cleanup of the Monsanto site. It was a huge undertaking and it's greatly appreciated. The hosting agreement in the annual increase of two and a half percent is a small percentage compared to the average tax payers or the average tax payers are paying for real estate taxes. While at when is the annual increase of two and a half percent every residents are seeing an eight to 14 percent increase year over year in real estate taxes. Encore has increased the calls, emergency calls, two emergency 911 calls, and one police call daily in addition to the details that they have on site. This is an additional burden to our police fire and EMTs and as a result has put a demand on the city and having to hire more emergency responders and our overtime has skyrocketed. The fine we end all is allocated to offset the cost is not adequate and it's a fixed cost essentially salaries the headcounts of equipment none are fixed costs. I asked you to request the 911 logs and read the message delay and responding by fire and emergency because lower Broadway is impossible. I asked the gaming commission to deny any expansion until November. November is our municipal elections have the expansion as a referendum question. In the interim Encore Encore in good faith should reopen or create another hosting agreement, increase the percentage of all gaming including online gambling revenue Massachusetts invest in the substation for police and fire change the in-law of tech real estate to pay real estate taxes fulfill the commitment to bring in an MBTA stop and build a parking garage and subsidize the low wage earners with housing in the immediate area so they could either walk and take a shuttle to work. I think for this to move forward I think I hope that the commission sees what what was what uncle has brought to the city was not what we wanted. We wanted a relief and we got burdened with more traffic and congestion and more crime so thank you for your time and if you have any questions. Thank you for questions. Commissures. I do miss start can you just you mentioned your expectation that you were going to get an annual report having to do with employment you haven't seen it can you just say that again I didn't get the entire description of the annual report. The annual report in the hosting agreement was that uncle would you provide the city with the report that would list the residents the employees that were residents with the breakdown of the level if they were like low wage earners middle middle or management and since it's been open I don't think we've seen one or if the city's gotten it we haven't gotten it. Great thank you. Commissioner O'Brien thank you. Chief Delaney that might be something we can follow up with. We have that data. Okay thank you. Thank you. Thanks so much. Anything else? Thank you for appearing today we really appreciate your comments very much. All right next up we have city councilor Darren Costa. Hello can everybody hear me? Yes you can see me okay sorry I'm in my son's room because my daughter is in the main area of the house trying to fall asleep so I have a baby but thank you all commissioners and the commission for putting all this together and having a second meeting I do appreciate the time and the true attention that you've given the subject so I'm just going to read from a statement that I have you know the major topic here today is obviously to understand and establish whether a vote is needed for the expansion of the Encore Casino. Overall I support the WinLLC expansion in Everett's entertainment district under some critical conditions given the material increase in Encore's casinos gaming footprint and operations including sports gaming Everett and Win need to renegotiate the original host agreement. I support Win because they have been a partner in cleaning toxic land but there is more to be done unfortunately Everett came up short in the first negotiation of the host agreement with Win. I would not approve expansion until we have an updated agreement that supports the interests of Everett's residents much more thoroughly until now there has been minimal contact between Win and Everett city council in 2022 during a city council meeting Win acknowledged and committed to a negotiation in good faith that considers current economic conditions and beyond. We should be ready to bring great ideas forward during this process here are a few of mine. Moving forward Win should lead programs in collaboration with the city of Everett. Everett needs a well-considered and enforced strategy for solving our affordable housing crisis. Currently Everett only receives a small community impact and frankly we don't have capacity to develop and manage the programs necessary to drive solutions alone. It is impractical to simply accept funding without internal infrastructure to spend it appropriately. We should require ongoing collaboration with Win to construct and deliver solutions. For example our schools and students would benefit from a more formal partnership with Win complete with compliance annual reporting and contractual obligation beyond what's offered today. They could deliver broader career development opportunities for students offer Win sponsored programming on site at schools and provide student-led civic enhancements. Have you noticed that Everett has the fewest green spaces and trees in the greater Boston area which makes suffering from increasing air pollution and heat much worse for our residents called the urban heat island effect. I have poorly considered expansion will only make this issue worse. This is why I do not support the proposal for three new parking garages to be built above ground. Win can and should install underground parking instead clearing the area for parks and trees above. We also have the opportunity to require additional green initiatives such as community solar or their extensive rooftop space to reduce the burden on communities energy grid. As a densely populated gateway city Everett desperately needs more public green space where families can gather and enjoy the outdoors. Win's current proposal plans include minimal open air space and public accessibility to community space. The current renderings of the entrance to the overhead pedestrian bridge appear closed off. It would require the residents to enter the building across Broadway. Instead we should have open and inviting outdoor access to the overhead walking path over Broadway. This public walkway should be clear and welcoming to our residents similar to CD Bank North Garden integrated entrance with the MBTA. I attended on April 11th. It was a wonderful event that Encore Boston hosted for Everett residents to attend. However very few did attend. Everett should require increased community engagement in a city at large such as sponsoring and participating in additional events where residents actually come. Again they have had several meetings onsite at the win but it draws several people where the events through the recreation center for example draws hundreds of individuals from the city. Everett also needs win's cooperation on transportation. Win shuttle service should be expanded with more routes and more frequent services to connect commuters to local rail stops where the MBTA falls short. The win water taxi to Long Wharf should expand its service and better promote it as a commuting option for Everett into Boston. Everett has a deteriorating overpass and suites are circled that should be repaired. We can also lack any vision for planning or building MBTA tracks in our city while MBTA tracks run behind the Encore Boston Harbor casino. But it isn't greedy or inappropriate for me to ask for these things as a business person as a financial professional by day. I don't think so. Let's look at the numbers. Encore Boston Harbor paid 22 million for fiscal year 23 as a payment in lieu of taxes or a pilot. In the community impact fee of about five million dollars for public safety other municipal services and offset of negative impacts of the community due to gambling and drinking for the current negotiated agreement. Consider that. Win sold Encore Boston Harbor property for 1.7 billion which would have generated 42 million of normal property taxes. Also consider the properties current property assessment in 1.3 billion which would have generated 32 million of normal property taxes. Everett collected only 27 million in lieu of those real estate taxes which is 15 million potentially at the high water mark below what we would have received at the purchase price. In addition both the pilot and the community impact fee grow annually at only 2.5 percent which is far below inflation. In 2022 win generated over 750 or the Encore Boston Harbor generate over 750 million in revenue and expect that to grow exponentially with the legalization of sports gambling. So rest assured they can afford to integrate some of these common sense requests into our city. Given the material increase and I'm going to wrap up soon the Encore casino gaming footprint and operations including sports gambling. Everett and win need to renegotiate the contract of the original host agreement. The host agreement in section one B items one and two requires an open negotiation of the host community agreement between the city of Everett and win in Agri. In summary I truly believe that win is a beneficial member of our community. I will be encouraged when I hear more details regarding the negotiations of the original host agreement as promised. We need to make our city and its residents a higher priority in this discussion which is certainly possible. I believe we continue to be proud to have win as a partner while we work together to develop and support our city wisely and win can continue to be a a big part and proud partner in ever improving Everett. In your analysis please consider the aggregated growth plan for Encore Boston Harbor after the recent acquisitions of the power plant and the abutting law. I'm actively working with win to improve and expand engagement and points of accountability for the city council and the schools. Thank you again very much to the commission and all its participants. I appreciate the time today. Thank you commissioners and questions for Mr. Costa. No we thank you for participating today. Thank you. Thank you Grace. All right next up we have Reezy Waldstein. Hi Reezy you should be able to unmute yourself and turn your video on. So I don't see up there's my video. Thank you. Thank you for this opportunity. How are you? Hi. So my name is Reezy Waldstein. I'm part of Action for Equity and the original casino action network that many residents from Everett and groups from Everett were part of as well as from around the region and we've been part of the particularly focused on the idea of quality jobs and job access since 2012 and the gaming law really said economic benefit has to be shared shared with local residents and I think we can hear that in this hearing and the gaming commission and staff and Encore itself were really played a tremendous public leadership role in moving this forward and creating the standards for the job quality which really matters in the license and then the access requirements in the workforce plan that was voted by the commission and the the role that Encore played partnering with the community to create the actual access points for jobs we held meetings that 2000 people by name were signed in to the original set of information sessions for residents looking for these jobs and that really contributed to the the inclusion that we saw and that we see today in Everett. So I'm here on behalf of the Broad Coalition which has now moved into green jobs and biotech and other places that has held together around the same issues to speak up for making sure that the standards that are already in place are brought over to the new lands that we knew were talked about because member residents in our coalition had their properties bought by Encore very very early on on the on the far side of Broadway and so we want to make sure that the that the regulatory constraints that were in place and the values that the commission led and that we believe Encore also agrees with are maintained in any new development. We think that the that these regulatory requirements should be enforced but we also think that the intention of the commission and of Encore we would hope would also be there separate even from the requirement of any legal requirement. I also want to acknowledge that I've really heard the residents who have spoken today about the original host agreement and I I just want to add that I think that that opening that up may be a very important piece and also maintaining the quality of the jobs as we heard from Jamie Neal. So I want to speak in support of of the other things you're hearing as well. Thank you very much. It's nice to see you again. Any questions? All right thank you. All right and next up we have John McDonald. John you should be able to unmute yourself and turn your video on if you'd like. Looks like you're unmuted now John we should be able to hear you if you speak. Yeah am I all set now? You can hear you clearly thank you. Okay thank you and thanks for holding this meeting. I think I'm just a regular guy who moved to Everett 40 years ago more to live was convenient to Boston and I just pay my taxes and move on. However when I pay my taxes and I see them going up six eight percent constantly and I know that Encore has a two and a half percent cap on theirs they're making a lot more money in the hour than I made probably in my career and I don't think the host agreement really provides is fair to Everett the way it's written now and I'm totally for as most people have mentioned on here I think everybody did they think the host agreement needs to be revised or you know looked at definitely revised and we need something more current that reflects you know the needs of Everett and I am in favor of putting a referendum on the ballot in November I think it's important I know the last meeting I attended at City Hall all the developers were there and they were saying oh we don't need a referendum but they were the only people out of the whole group they were the only people the people who were getting money from Encore are saying we don't need this referendum because it probably could hurt their business but it's hurting the business of every taxpayer in Everett because we're paying more and more and Encore is paying less and less and as it was pointed about earlier the services they use from Everett they're just not providing coverage they're just not I don't think they're being fair about the whole thing you know when I voted I voted to have Encore when that referendum came up I thought there would be some kind of partnership with Everett I was expecting you know I guess my expectations are too high but there's absolutely nothing Encore that I can see has really done for Everett except create more traffic more pollution and definitely the idea of sticking in a huge parking lot to fill the air with more pollution is just you know a terrible idea you know the the traffic on that street and nothing has been mitigated as far since it's been there the traffic sometimes just getting from Charlestown to brought to downtown Everett that could be a half-hour ride to go one mile because sometimes that traffic is so backed up you can't get through when the whole cigarette I was started there was no sports betting there none of that it was in existence and the whole I don't know anything about the real estate who owned what when where but all that seems to be you know a lot of mystery involved there and almost to see as far as all we know that was part of Monsanto so basically I'm in total agreement with Darren Costa he has some very good ideas he has a real good handle on you know what the situation was and I think he presented that very well his ideas are great like the same policy really same thing you know she pays attention people who pay attention and Everett know that this is not working for Everett residents so I'm just on board with you know getting somehow getting on call to participate more and offer more to the city than they do now and that's my piece thank you oh thank you Mr. McDonald yes missioners do you have any questions for Mr. McDonald everyone's all set thank you for participating today we appreciate your input all right next we have Teresia Green Williams it looks like she signed off so we will give her a minute to sign back on what she would like while we're waiting Elizabeth I know you had signed on twice if you have somebody else who would like to speak if you could just raise your hand looks like she knows um I know Elizabeth you should be in now um my name is Elizabeth I have been a resident of Everett since 2004 I would like to express my gratitude first on behalf of my colleagues for this opportunity to speak today we all overwhelmingly voted for the casino as a way to improve our likelihood as we all know the casino has brought an increase in economic activity which in turn has led to a rise in the cost of living in Everett a personal example is my rent it was 1380 before the casino was built when it was opened my rent went up to 1800 then 2100 now it's 2300 I'm not sure about tomorrow since 2019 I've only had a dollar a two dollar raise this makes it quite difficult to keep up with the expenses our current salaries are no longer sufficient to support our families the question for today is what type of jobs will this expansion bring will the expansion bring good jobs there are 1400 anchor staff working diligently in every department to uphold the five star standard we all believe we require equivalent benefits to the other hotels in the industry all we are asking for is a similar pay and benefits um to places like the Hampton Inn and Coteard by Marriott thank you for the opportunity to speak today thank you questions commissioner right so are do you work at encore boston harbor yes i'm in stewarding department the stewarding department okay and did you how long have you been there as an employee since we opened 2019 since 2019 okay thank you we follow questions to that that was a that was the very same question I had madam chair can I ask um have you been in the same position since the opening or have your positions changed no in the same position as a supervisor super thank you all right any other questions commissioners we thank you very much for appearing today thank you very much okay okay so that is everybody who has pre-registered so now I think we will put up a screen for anyone to register folks have until 1 30 p.m. today to register feel free to reach out to me again my email is grace dot robinson at massgaming.gov and we can add you to the list um and for commissioners just stand by um if we have anyone else I will make an announcement thank you thank you grace thanks commissioners Kathy I love that sweater oh thank you the color thanks I haven't pulled it out for a while so thank you I used to have a turquoise I think I would call that turquoise um sure and I haven't had it's gone and I missed it I don't use a I don't wear a lot of colorful stuff but I loved my turquoise here is the so I think Dave you can take down the screen please and I think we're streaming right the stream is still going the stream is still going all right grace do we have any other on members of the public who are interested in presenting today we do not okay commissioners are you all set Karen Joe all set can't hear you Kathy I can't hear you oh wait I could hear I'm sorry my volume was still I only asked if um if you had anything else and I asked Karen and Joe if they had anything else and they were all set do you have anything for sure skinner I do not I'm sorry apparently I missed a whole entire intro it wasn't much it wasn't much thank you all right then we um this is a public meeting so we do need them up we have one minute we have one minute I actually have a process question madam chair if it's if you wouldn't mind so for the public to know and understand from this point on if the commissioners have suggestions of ways to move forward will we be having another public meeting to discuss that or what what should the public know that we're doing next right so um I think I mentioned in my opening remarks that now we're taking this input and Joe can elaborate but we do have um I think we might actually have a date even on the calendar but forgive me I might be wrong on that Grace is nodding her head yes we do have this marked up for July 11 our next public meeting on this particular topic Joe you want to elaborate yeah so I think if you remember the last time we met on this I laid out a whole bunch of the issues that we heard at the first public hearing and we'll add to that any of the issues that we heard here and I thought what I would try to do is write it up as a as a letter to Encore asking them to address the various specific things in their application so I thought I want to come back with the commission is sort of a draft letter on the things that we want to hear back on with their application for this project and then um at the at the 11th the commission could approve that letter and we would send that off to Encore and that would start the remainder of the process what we got once we got plans in um and all of the other information we you know we need to get a team of people together in here to review all that stuff and then bring it back in front of the commission probably sometime I would imagine uh end of July into August sometime uh for consideration of the project itself I have a time sensitive question and I don't know where to ask it Madam Chair so I'm going to ask it and if this is not an appropriate place start in it if and I'm not suggesting that I'm doing this but if I wanted to reassess my vote on the I don't think it's an appropriate question okay um and I'm going to say that only because it's more of that for public hearing today um I think if um you could raise it at our like our next public meeting during commission update would you mind asking that question then yes thank you thank yeah we'll just keep it there um uh it's not that it's so much inappropriate question it's just probably not today's for today's um platform is that there everybody agree so and then um I'm not sure if on Monday uh whether there'll be an answer provided is that our next first meeting um that's actually a meeting that's pretty limited in is that a limited meeting the next meeting on um June 12th is specific um the next public meeting with multiple agenda items is uh next Thursday the 15th the 15th maybe even at Christian Hill um but I think it's a fair question you're raising but I think just a different platform thank you excellent thanks we'll mark we'll mark it up under commission update and if you want a specific uh topic just let me know okay or let Grace now thank you thanks all righty with that I'm going to close out today's public hearing in our public meeting with a motion to adjourn unless there's anything else we didn't do roll call but I'm assuming if we adjourn and we all answer that we're good my apologies we'll do a roll call then we'll do it in motion I was going to say we can we just roll it all into the we can all drill it in um but we're pointing out that we didn't do a roll call the roll call is used when we are holding a public meeting virtually so the fact is is that we are all here and there's a there is a record of us all being here and it'll be a record as we adjourn okay Chris you're right I have a motion uh move to adjourn second Chris you're right hi mr. Hill hi mr. Skinner hi mr. Maynard and I thought yes thanks five zero thank you everyone thanks to public uh commissioners or anything you I didn't ask beforehand anything you want to say public just saying that acknowledge all of our thanks okay