 and we're at the jewelry store and the person at the jewelry store says, oh, so when are you getting married? You're the groom, right? And I'm like, yeah, I am. I am the groom. Is that how you put a discount or? No, no, she just thought I was, I mean, I'm standing there with my wife and it's like, oh. In all fairness, you do look quite young. Thank you. Which is a good thing. Yes. So wait, what happened? That good skin. They thought he was getting married, not that he was the father of... To Nora. Yeah, Nora was real happy about that. Thanks a lot. Well, look at it this way, Nora. You can always say that I got me, I don't know. Hey, let me just be honest with you. Through the viewfinder of this computer, I look fine. You're right on top of me. I, you know, it's gonna be bad. You know, I've seen other pictures of you that are not interpreted by the glories of Google Hangouts crushing system. Well, you know, I am Filipino, I am Asian, so one day it's what's gonna happen is I'm just going to deflate like a balloon. Usually it'll happen around 68, 65, 60. I mean, I'm laughing because it's true. I know from so many of Eileen's relatives, like... They just deflate like balloons one day. No, it's like 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, menopause. And then everything is like, oh, wow, that changed. You know, I met her family for the first time, right? A long, long time ago. And it was like all these people who look the same age and then the grandparents who look 40 years older. But it was a range of ages, like all the way through, right? Oh, good stuff. Hey, what do you guys think? We should do a show about that time. A show would be great to do, actually. Sarah, would you be so kind as to read the opening on line three? I would. Let me just make sure my Wi-Fi is off. I would, but I won't. Okay, fine. Would or wouldn't? Okay, there we go. Count me in. Three, two. Thanks to everyone who supports Daily Tech News Show directly. To find out more, head to dailytechnewshow.com slash support. This is the Daily Tech News for Friday, July 20th, 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. And from Studio Fila and I'm Scooter Lane. And from my Midwestern Art Studio, I'm Len Peralta. And somewhere in beautiful Amily, California, I'm Patrick Norton. And our producer, Roger Chang, is here as well. It's a full house on a Friday. Roger, how are you feeling? I am feeling better than I did Monday. Good to hear. Very good. Good, good, good. We've witnessed Roger's recovery over the week and we're happy for it. We're going to talk a little bit about a new ISP in Patrick's neighborhood. It may or may not be representative of a trend, but it's very interesting. But let's start with a few tech things you should know. Let's do that now. As part of a continuing effort to combat the spread of rumors that have led to instances of violence in India and Myanmar, WhatsApp will limit the number of people you can forward a message to. The limit will be 20 worldwide and five in India specifically. The previous limit was more than 250, so you can see how that would change things somewhat. WhatsApp is also testing removal of the quick forward button in India as well. Waymo announced at the National Governors Association that its autonomous cars have now traveled eight million miles on public roads. That's double the total they announced back in November, if it was four million back then. Waymo has 600 Chrysler Pacific mini vans out operating on public roads. And that number is gonna go way up soon. They plan to have 62,000 fiat Chryslers and 20,000 Jaguar IPACE SUVs on the road within the next several years. Waymo is also testing a ride-hailing service with 400 residents of Chandler, Arizona. And they still say they expect to kick that off as a paid taxi service by the end of 2018. All right, let's talk a little bit more about a new open standard. Don't stop listening, don't fall asleep. It's actually, you're gonna wanna use this. Yeah, this is called the Data Transfer Project. Google, Facebook, Microsoft and Twitter have all created the standards initiative. The Data Transfer Project, I guess DTP for short. For transferring data directly between services without the need for you to download and re-upload. That's very important. Data is encrypted in transit issuing forward secret keys. The system supports transfer of photos, mail, contacts, calendars and tasks drawing from publicly available APIs from Google and Microsoft and Twitter and Flickr Instagram. Remember the milk and smug mug. Remember the milk, man, haven't heard about them in a while. Code for the project is available on GitHub. Yeah, so, and there are a few other smaller companies involved in this, we don't wanna leave everybody out but there's actually not one single place to find out about the organization because they're pretty much focused on putting the code up on GitHub. Though I guess you can go to datatransferproject.dev. But the thing that you should think about is right now because of GDPR, there's a lot of companies making available the ability to download your data and even delete it and remove it. So if you wanna leave Instagram, you can leave Instagram. But what do you do with that? There's not a lot of work being done on what to do with that data. If you're like, well, I wanna go back to Flickr with my Instagram, I wanna take all my photos over there or even I think more practical of things like calendars and address books. You have to download it and then you have to upload it. This would develop a secure way to just say, hey, I'm transferring it over here, let me authenticate on both ends and then you guys take care of it on the backend. Patrick, have you gone through this recently where you've got so much data on a certain platform that if there was a standard such as this to move over to the next big thing you would take advantage? Yes, actually I've been listening to too much Harry Potter with the boys and audiobooks lately. I was gonna say, brilliant! Because A, from looking at these particular like the companies at the center of this, pretty much all the big companies is set for Apple. I look at this and I think this is a way to help stave off any of a number of issues they're worried about in terms of being sued or attacked or beat on with a hammer by government agencies. But the idea of making this data portable and easy to move from place to place. I mean, if you've ever tried to move say 11 million photos off of Flickr or just the idea of trying to move your data out of this. I mean, I still pay for Flickr Pro because I'm scared of this entire thing. Which is a perfectly reasonable response. But I'm also kind of curious to whether or not, I'm curious to whether or not like Facebook for example would ever allow you to sort of A, download your data and B, not keep all of it. At this point could Facebook even tell where all of your data is inside of their system? Well, they need to if they want to operate in Europe because that's part of the deal is you have to be able to say get rid of it all and delete it. So yeah, interesting question. As far as the data transfer project goes, I do like that it's using existing APIs and authorization mechanisms. So it's not trying to reinvent the wheel. If you don't trust existing APIs that's a whole different situation but it's not adding in a lot of vulnerabilities it's encrypting what little connections the specific adapters that it's using to connect those two APIs together. But if you use third-party clients for Twitter you're using an API, right? So this is as secure as that is right now and it just sends it from one service to the other and if you trust both of those services which maybe you don't trust the one you're leaving as much maybe that's why you're leaving I don't know but you should trust the system and it's intended to be open source. It's not quite got a license and everything. I couldn't find all the details on that but they do wanna make this an open source platform that anybody can use. I like the idea because when you dig into the data transfer project website they talk about how it's okay, there's data adapters and authentication adapters and the idea that these are supposed to sit outside of the infrastructure of the partners so that they won't, because a lot of these tools, a lot of these websites or whatever you wanna call them social services, they are incredibly complicated and arcane and because almost every one of them went through some point for example, Facebook or Twitter where they exploded and a lot of code got heaped on top of the core functions. It's super, super messy to try to dig in deep. So they're trying to make it easy to export and easy to import, right? So we have this standard for data and then there's also a part of me that goes like oh, it's a really fancy comma delimited file for all of your information inside of Google. And we all know, because everybody's trying to export stuff in a comma delimited file and it's, you know, what spec could be more, it's so easy. It's about the security, dammit. Well, it's about the security, but it's still, it's as easy as this should be. You know, having had incredible failures on transferring simple, simple, simple data, like your contacts to go from, you know, I don't know, let's say, something everyone here, except for maybe Len will react to viscerally, Lotus Notes, just trying to get your contacts out of Lotus Notes and into anything else in the planet, like work on the first try, the seventh try. I mean, the Lotus Notes story is, it's a whole thing. It's an ongoing GDI topic. That's why I brought it up, but this is, if this works, it'll be freaking amazing, you know. All right, we got six products, Apple Watch, Fitbit's Charge, Charge HR and Surge, and Sonos' Play 3, Play 5, oh, and I guess it's seven products, the sub speakers as well, that are listed as subject to import duties if the new round of proposed tariffs on Chinese goods goes into effects. The US Customs and Border Protection considers the items data transmission machines, which is one of the 6,000 codes used for types of goods listed on that next round. Now, a lot of people don't realize this, but these tariffs don't just happen because the president says so. They go through a comment period and the comment period for these tariffs is happening right now. So the device makers can use that period to ask for the code of that particular vice to be dropped from the list. They can ask for their product to be reclassified as a different code. They could apply for an exclusion, saying even though our code is listed, can our device not really count? Or they could just replace it with a newer model that turns out works differently and somehow isn't subject to the tariff. But you're seeing a lot of headlines out there saying the tariffs will cause these products to get a 10% tax on them. May happen, may not. Probably not gonna happen because they have so many options to deal with it and a lot of time to prepare for it. Well, okay, so as somebody who owns a Sonos one, smart speaker, I assume that the whole idea of this is anything that's manufactured in China and can be, everyone knows it's being imported. And that's why older Sonos models are part of this and not the newer Sonos models that actually would apply to me. I wish it was that simple, but that's not how it works because iPhones are manufactured in China and they are not covered by any of these tariffs and the president has said he's gonna make sure that that doesn't apply to that. It's specific types of devices and there are 6,000 different codes for the types of devices. And so there's very intricate definitions for how you qualify, whether you count under a certain one or not. Yeah, I thought it was clever that they immediately at the very beginning of this were like, we're not gonna put tariffs on cell phones because that would have dramatically impacted a huge number of Americans instantly. And the fact is these companies said which ones of our products count under these proposed tariffs as part of the comment period? Customs said these count and now that's the chance for the manufacturers to go. Okay, great. So now we have to figure out our strategy to make sure that those don't count so that they don't get hit with the tariff in the future. There was an interesting, I think it was like the few weeks ago moved the subwoofer company that makes like vintage, basically vintage, new vintage subwoofers, not subwoofers, synthesizers, how they pointed out that so many of their subassemblies come from China, and that is gonna dramatically impact the cost of goods. And I think right now anybody who deals with anything that gets manufactured or any part of their device, which is a huge list of things gets manufactured in China is probably freaking out, calling their local Congress critter and trying to figure out how they can get exempted on this. Well, Patrick, let's see if this next story freaks you out. Amazon has rolled out a feature called part finder for its iOS app based on the acquisition of part pick, which was back in 2016. So part finder uses the phone's camera to identify a part and then get links to order replacement parts. Users have to place that part. It's usually a part of a larger machine next to a penny. So you can kind of get a sense of how big it is and then add some identifying information. For example, whether it's a Phillips or a flathead screwdriver, et cetera. Right now it can recognize screws, nuts, bolts, washers, and other fasteners. It's awesome. Pretty cool. I would demonstrate it right now but I don't have a penny in my pocket. But yeah, it's kind of weirdly located in the Amazon app. You have to hit the photo button in the corner of the app and then you get something that looks a lot like that, which is probably completely... I can't see that. Can't see that. I would love to. I can't see that. Most people listening can't see that. Well, imagine if you will a photo screen with a little label that says, welcome to Parkfinder. A photo of a fastener provided by Patrick Norton. You know, and you have to have a white surface to use it on. So if you're in the backyard, in the garage, in your grimy ass workbench, you need to go find a nice clean white sheet of paper and a penny to do this. I think it's cool. I've only tested it out with one very common screw and it seemed to work. I'll be actually be reviewing this on tech thing on Tuesday. Oh, nice. Because, well, I was just like, this is gonna be so cool if it actually works. Well, and you can reverse Amazon, right? Amazon's known for being the app that you take into Best Buy and then look up the thing in Best Buy to find out if you could find it cheaper. You can use this to identify the part and then go find it at your local hardware store if that's easier for you. Cause I don't wanna have a screw ship to me in a big package. Like, I just wanna find out which one it is. Yeah, no, I'm laughing as like Ryan Trout from PC Per and I were talking about this yesterday and he was like, I don't need a box of 200 screws. I'm like, no, but sometimes you do need a box of 200 screws but if you only need one, you can at least know where to start looking in your local hardware store. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, and Amazon's aware of this, right? They're aware that people use this as a research tool. Of course. Not necessarily to make the eventual sale, but that's part of their cloud service as well. All right, attackers have accessed 1.5 million patient profiles and 160,000 prescription details for Singapore's largest healthcare institution, SingHealth. They basically have two big ones that work with the government. SingHealth is the biggest. Singapore's ministry of health believes that the target of the attack records were Singapore's ministers from the government, particularly the prime minister, Lee Shenmung, whose prescription details were among those accessed. The government says it was not the work of casual hackers or criminal gangs, but a deliberate, targeted, and well-planned cyber attack. The prime minister said he guesses, he's like, my prescription information isn't something I'd normally share with people, but there's nothing embarrassing in there. He's like, maybe they thought they could find out something that it wasn't public. There is no evidence that the records were altered or that the attackers were able to access diagnoses or test results or doctor's notes. We always like to know how bad the attack was. This was getting addresses, email addresses, things like that for 1.5 million and some prescription information again for the 160,000. But we don't report on every breach anymore because there are so many of them, sadly, but this is an interesting one because it does seem to be a different kind of state-sponsored attack. Going after Singapore, particularly, maybe it's a rival party, but they must have paid somebody because these are attackers who knew what they were doing. You know what I'm saying? I think we're all the same. I hear you, I hear you. I'm trying to come up with like a witty rejoiner, but I'm like, well, I can't. Like we have so many of them. If you're a person who had your health records accessed as part of this, I mean, you have had a similar number of health records accessed in the United States, piecemeal, right? With multiple attacks here and there. There were some big ones in the background check for the government at one point that got a lot of information that way, not necessarily health information, but yeah, I mean, I know what you mean. This is somewhat stunning. I don't know. It's, I want to be more shocked than I should be at this point, but given the amount of hacking, the intensity of hacking, the variety of hacking from incredibly sophisticated just like brute force, you know. Well, this is definitely a step above. This is not ransomware. We wanted to make some money. This is intrigue. This is James Bond level hacking, if you will. Yeah. I mean, I'm not arguing that it may have been James Bond level hacking, but it's still, I mean, compared to like, you know, looking at the office of personnel management being hit in the United States in 2015, basically like all of the data. Singapore is reputed to be super reliable and careful about these things. I think that's the part that shocked me. And they have no idea who or where it came from. Or if they do, they're not saying. Well, you guys want to talk about robots? Sure. All right. Let's do it. DARPA announced a new program called Shrimp for short range independent macro robotic, not to be confused with macro biotic, micro robotic platforms to develop and demonstrate multifunctional, micro to mili robotic platforms to use in natural and critical disaster scenarios. So Shrimp will consist of a series of competitions performing tasks quote associated with maneuverability, dexterity and manipulation. So there'll be one set of competitions for actuators and power sources and one for complete robots. DARPA will allocate $32 million of funding across multiple Shrimp projects. Abstracts are due on August 10th. Proposals are due on September 26th with competitions perhaps as early as March, 2019. I can't wait for the petite range amplified wireless nanotech. I was trying to come up with a prawn. Sorry. No, this is really good. I was trying to figure out what you were trying to spell. I was like, he's getting somewhere. Shrimp? Let him work through it. Yeah, I think this is fantastic because a lot of times we think of DARPA, the DARPA grand challenge and the big robots and the walk-in and everything and they do all that. But this is much more practical, to be honest. Like having small devices that can get into places and disasters is going to be much more useful, I think. I love the, did anybody look at the tentative events for the actuator and power source competitions? There is a high jump. The microbiotic actuator power system must propel itself vertically from a stationary starting position with a distance measured only in the vertical direction. Yeah, it's like an Olympic Games for robots. It's like, well, can you do this? Because this is really hard as a robot. Yeah, there's a biathlon. Yeah, we have all these new challenges of like, if you can get here, you're like a pretty good robot. The biathlon has competing teams given the choice between three beacon types, temperature, light or sound. And they may choose to use all three types of beacon. For each attempt, the micro robot must traverse a series of beacon waypoints to create an open circuit without human interaction. So awesome. Vertical ascent, a steeple chase. Not really biathlon, they're not shooting. Well, yes, Tom. Actually, there was a whole thing yesterday signed to keep them from shooting, at least without our supervision. So maybe that's why. All right, thank you everyone for listening. Get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes if you're like, I love hearing about this, but sometimes I'm in a rush. I just wanna know the news, dailytechheadlines.com. Go check it out. You can get it in your ears and even on your Amazon Echo. And that is a look at our top stories. So Patrick, you were telling me there's a new ISP in town, which, you know, in various parts of the world, the United States included, ISP competition is not as good as maybe it should be. So this is a great example of when competition happens, what happens? Tell us about it. Okay, so it's been several thousand times over the last 2,000 years. And over the last probably 10 or 15 years, I've said, if there is ever a viable replacement for Comcast, I will be on it immediately. And in terms of viable, I actually had to be able to afford it. Because- Kind of speed, low enough price, right? Yeah, and it's been the, you know, when you spend a lot of time also working and pushing video files around the web, what you really want is a higher upload speed for me in particular, was something I was desperately looking for. And if you go to Comcast, you're like, well, you can give you 30 megabits up, it'll only cost you four times what your current phone bill does, or your current cable bill does. I may be exaggerating slightly, but not by much, because basically it meant going from a consumer to a business account. And it's been interesting to look at, because there's almost never been, in my particular area, any alternative that was as fast, as much less faster, Comcast. And, you know, it doesn't really matter, charter wherever you are, you probably run into a situation where there's mediocre DSL, or fairly fast cable. If you're very, very lucky, there might be a wired option, or I should say a wireless option. And if you're incredibly lucky, in approximately this much of the United States, as he holds his fingers together and points them towards the camera for everybody listening at home, if you're in this tiny subsection of the United States, you might actually have access to fiber. And, you know, anything involving pulling wires or burying wires is incredibly expensive. And that's why, despite the fact that we hear a lot about the free and open market, if there was a real need for a less expensive way to get internet in the homes, the free market would have provided it. But it's incredibly expensive to dig holes in the ground and drag cables through them, or to... Not to mention it sometimes requires regulations that the telcos have lobbied to make difficult to get approval for. Yeah, I don't even get me started on the incredible efforts by Verizon and other organizations to stomp the possibility of municipal ISPs into the ground, because God forbid their lack of interest in providing better service to their companies, their consumer bases be replaced by the self-interest of local governments. Get us to the good stuff, though. What's happening in your hood? So, I saw a sign for Common.net. And Common.networks is a startup out of San Francisco and their very, very first test case, shockingly and delightfully enough, for me was here in Alameda, California. And they are working on their probably, I assume they are working towards, based on a couple of conversations I've had, I'm pretty sure they're working towards their own proprietary hardware. Currently, they're using Viquity hardware, the Unify wireless access points. And what they're creating is, I'll call it a mesh network, but it's not a mesh network like, I have a bunch of Netgear Orbeez in my house, it's a mesh network, as in they are creating a collection of wireless access points that are on the roofs. They start with tall buildings in the, they started, I should say, with a couple of three tall buildings in the city, and then they kind of work out the math from there, as they add additional clients or houses. They then sort of point additional, you know, there was like one antenna on top of my house, now there's three. And when I say antenna, there are little sort of eight in size circles that are on a mass on top of my house. And to give you an idea of how successful this is, they've been around for a year or two, there are like 20 houses on my block and five or six of them are already using common. And we've, the close listeners to DTNS will realize this sounds familiar because we've talked about similar systems. I think Colorado, there was a municipality or a subdivision maybe that was putting this in. We've seen it put in and tested in a few other places, I think maybe in Idaho. But it's interesting to see it in action, right? That's why I'm so curious to talk to you about it because the idea is always hard to get, it's hard to get the first person to put that mast on their house, but once they do, the more people add to the network, the more robust the network gets. Absolutely. And it's been, yeah, I'm going to amplify with Thompson. This is not a new idea. This is a particularly well implemented version of it. And also, I think in terms of pricing are being pretty generous. I pay $50 a month, they guarantee, when I signed up, it was 50 megabits up, 50 megabits down. They've now bumped that to 75 megabits up and 75 megabits down. And no price increase, that's nice. Yeah, no price increase, $50 a month, which is, I want to say $39 less than I was paying for Comcast and getting 10 megabits up. And I want to say 50 to 80 megabits down. What's crazy about this is, except on like Friday night, when everybody in the city of Alameda is streaming Netflix or Amazon Prime, I'm typically getting 175 megabits up and 175 megabits down. So when they give you a number, it's the minimum, not you might hit this someday if conditions are perfect, which is what you usually get from cable. Well, okay, so here's my question as well. So I'm looking up common networks on CrunchBase and it looks like they've been through a series A, which means they haven't raised all that much money. How long? And yes, and as you said, Patrick, it's so great that Alameda was a test bed for this. How long before a large company like Google or somebody else who wants to absorb an ISP such as this into their portfolio picks up common? Well, that's, I mean, it's a great question because my nightmare has to evolve work for some wonderful venture capital funded organizations. Three things happen when companies get a metric ton of venture capital. Either A, they get a metric ton of venture capital, they kind of piss it all away and they fail or B, they get a certain amount of venture capital and they can bought by their company or C, they get a certain amount of venture capital and they actually want to be a standalone company. And at no point does the VC make them do a lot of stupid things in order to turn what should be a $10 million ear business into a billion dollar ear business. I can't talk too much smack because I took a lot of paychecks from VC funded companies over the last 10 years. Total, I think my question is more of if you had to guess what larger company would want something like this. Where would you go with? The other thing to consider is that 5G wants to do what Common is doing without necessarily having to put the mast on your house although there are some plans to do that too. So either you start to see AT&T and Verizon go into competition with Common or possibly buy them. That's one option. Well, yeah, I don't think there would be any. Okay, so when you look at companies that are probably gonna roll out 5G which is basically every major mobile carrier in the United States, I don't think it gives them any advantage because they're using such a radically different infrastructure, you know, if it was Google, sure why not, but the reality is is Google could probably do this internally as well or better and quite frankly I was kind of shocked that they- They have been examining that for Google Fiber. The Google Fiber unit has been looking at doing exactly this. Yeah, because I was as excited as the Google Fiber project was for me. I was also kind of like that even Google's pockets aren't really deep enough to dig that much fiber to really kick the teeth in at Comcast. And obviously I have an anti-Comcast bias because I've been a customer for so long. But for me, that's my primary concern is like A, they don't accept so much venture capital that the VC guys are like great just up to $200 a month in capital eight megabytes and you'll really be able to make money then because that's kind of a classic venture capital response. I'm hoping they hope to stay independent. Most of the crew, most of the leadership in common seems to have come out of Stripe. They seem to be pretty serious engineers. They seem to be fairly focused on customer service, all of which sounds nothing like Comcast or Charter or AT&T or Verizon or any of the others. I mean, yeah, certainly Verizon and AT&T are gonna be competitive with 5G. I'm really curious to see how they price that because at this point, when you look at the way all of the major wireless carriers price their wireless data, they do not want heavy consumers. They want, basically they want everybody at like 22 to 25 gigabytes a month and they don't wanna deal with you if you're going over that. There are cases, we do have anecdotal evidence from some of the like protecting viewers where they're like, yeah, I'm typically at 37 or 40 megabytes a month or gigabytes a month and they don't throttle me. But when you start looking at the pricing plans, up until about a year or two ago, you used to be able to like, yeah, I need 50 gigs a month and now you just can't go over. If you get to a certain point, the carriers are gonna throttle you because they just don't wanna deal with carrying that much bandwidth over the 4G. And most of them will let you pay for the ability to go over. They actually are, no, actually, Tom, many of them have actually eliminated the ability to do that. I can no longer pay for extra bandwidth in AT&T. So if I'm at CES and I- Well, maybe AT&T got rid of that and I didn't realize it, but you can with Verizon and T-Mobile. Okay, the last time I looked at Verizon, they were in a similar situation. And the other thing is, this is a good time to point out they keep changing. Yeah, I know, it's hard to answer regularly. For sure. Well, thanks for sharing the insights on that. Again, we're not particularly saying common is, you know, emblematic or anything, but it was interesting to see it on the ground from somebody who's tried it out and used it. And it will become something with Google and 5G and other companies that are similar that you may see coming to your neighborhood soon. Ah, that means the time's up. Sorry, but that was off. Real quick, just wanted to highlight one of our mailbag emails. Emails, exactly, from Tommy. These things. How do you submit? Submissions. Tommy says, he's a terrible film critic, extraordinary, those are his words. He says, he has some thoughts on our DC Universe discussion from yesterday's show. Tommy says, I don't think you guys gave nearly enough credit to the fact that they're bringing back the show Young Justice. It was a massive cold hit from earlier in the decade. I was universally praised. One of my favorite shows of all time, unfortunately canceled by the Cartoon Network after two seasons. I hear you're paying, Thomas. The outcry from fans, though, was followed by one of the most intense I've ever seen. And the subsequent excitement at the idea of a revival was even more so. And that's gonna be on DC Universe. Thomas says, I guarantee DC Universe will receive at least a lot of subscribers off the bat from this basis alone. If they get it right, maybe people will stick around out of pure enthusiasm. Maybe I'm being blinded by my fandom on this particular show, but weird things have certainly happened in the streaming world. And if I'm right, Young Justice might be the key to DC Universe's success. Hmm, all right. I think if you ask people who are fans of Titans, they will say the same thing. I think if you ask people who are fans of the comics, which we actually got a couple of emails like that, they will say, oh, it's the comics. I think that's what is so interesting about DC Universe is it's not just a video streaming service. It's not just one particular show that's gonna bring people in like Star Trek Discovery is often seen as CBS All Access. It's multiple live action shows, it's back catalog, it's comics, it's forums. So getting this many different perspectives on that from Young Justice to Titans to comics, et cetera, is probably a really good sign for DC Universe. I was kind of thinking about Thomas's note earlier. It's like Friday night lights, remember when it caught pick back up or a rest of development. It's like there is a momentum that he's talking about that is real. All right, let's check in with Len Peralta who's been illustrating this episode. Len, what do you got for us? Well, it's my first week back after a week off and wanted to do something that was a little bit less brain intensive than common networks. Of course, I chose DARPA and the shrimp which I thought was really, really cool. And this image is, these are small robots folks, very, very tiny. And of course it's making these real shrimps feel really big. And I guess that's what they call them jumbo shrimps and that's what this is called jumbo shrimp. It's gonna make popcorn shrimp feel jumbo. It's absolutely true. It's true. And what about coconut shrimp? I don't know what it's gonna do for them. It's gonna make them feel tasty. I don't know. But if you wanna see what Len drew, you gotta check this out. It's really cute, actually. It's got a whole under the sea vibe. So where should they go? Oh, they should go to LenPeraltaStore.com and check it out along with all the other great stuff that is available on the store. Thank you, Len. Well, thank you so much, Len. And also thank you to Patrick Norton for being with us this fine Friday. Patrick, where can people keep up with what you've been up to lately? Oh, T-E-K-T-H-I-N-G.com. Tech Thing, the show I host weekly with Shannon Morse and A.B. Excel, the home theater and audio podcast with Mr. Robert Herron, which is also a weekly kind of thing. Excellent. Thanks to everybody who supports us directly on Patreon. We have all kinds of cool perks for people there, including the ability to listen to the entire Good Day Internet. That's the pre-ampo show along with the E-T-N-S live as we record it in Discord. You can hook up your Discord to Patreon and listen along with us. All kinds of other stuff, check it out at Patreon.com slash D-T-N-S. Hey, if you've got feedback, questions, comments, anything, feedback at DailyTechNewShow.com is where to send us an email. We're also live Monday through Friday, 4.30 p.m. Eastern, 20.30 UTC. Find out more at DailyTechNewShow.com slash live. Have a great weekend, everybody. Who's in a weekend? And we will talk to you Monday with Justin Robert Young. La Weekend. You can hang it out on La Weekend. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more at frogpants.com. The Diamond Club hopes you have enjoyed this program. I was thinking like people who listen when it's Monday because they... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good, Frog Pants. Not people who personally know the artist The Weekend. Oh, I love The Weekend. Speaking of which, I'm going to log off because... You should begin your weekend, Glenn. I'm going to go to The Weekend, yes. Tell him we said hello. I will. Enjoy your analog weekend. Enjoy your shrimp. Oh, thank you so much, everybody. It's a good scene, everybody. Thank you so much. Good to artwork, Glenn. See you next week. Take care. Bye-bye. Love you, bye. Bye. Bring a penny, get a part. I feel like I'm announcing jeopardy categories. What is? Right. Bring a penny, get a part. And finally... I'll take bring a penny, get a part for 200, Roger. It's a daily double. You down with DTP. You faded away, Roger. Where are you? Roger, come in, Roger. I'm trying to find something that coincides with the discussion. I'm in trouble. That's what... Uncommon ISP. Uncommon, yeah. Wait, I don't see that. I'm in common bandwidth. I'm just making these up. There's a Subaru brat for sale in red ink. You don't want to buy those. Those things are like 40 years old. Oh, no. I want a brat. See? And it's got the jump seats in the back. They have the jump seats. It does. Like the only card, like it says brat on the side of it. It's so cool. You know why they put the seats in it so it wouldn't qualify as a truck and would get around import tears. And this is a problem, Roger. We're thinking of like an El Camino. A brat was never a truck. No, it was. You need a red Chero. No, a brat is a... A brat is like a... It's like a... I don't know. It's a car. My friend had one. Spoiled child that... Well, a brat's kind of like an El Camino. You've never seen one before? It's very, very bad. But I just don't think anybody would call that a truck. That's why they put... No, no, no, that's what Roger's saying. Oh, OK. That's what it looks like. Because you get the bed of a truck, but they didn't have to pay the import tax on the truck. As long as they put the jump seats in the bed. OK, OK. You have to find one with the outrageous seats. Yeah, like it's like a wagon without the back on it. Well, it's a car that only seats two people and has a big trunk. Patrick, buy that brat. See, right here, jump seats. The USA Canadian versions also had carpeted and welded in rear facing. You can you can fit in the back of one. All right, all right. I they were a toy with the plastic seats in the cargo bed, allowing Subaru to classify the bread as a passenger car charged only with 2.5 percent compared to 25 percent tariff, unlike trucks due to the chicken tax. Sarah, you are correct. The coolest part is that it has brat written on the side. Oh, yeah, no, it's like that was an optional graphic. I've never seen one without the brat on the side, not one. Why would you not pay for that option? Come on, if you're going to get a brat from the 80s, you're going to make sure that people know that you just get an El Camino at that point. It's wrong. You know, you get a ranchero. A ranchero. There's actually an El Camino in my neighborhood. It's this beautiful, just kind of like, you know, they obviously did the paint over and it's black and they've got great rims and like, there's no part of me that needs this car. But but in my soul, I want it to be mine. I haven't called anybody to see how much they'll make a cool car. I don't know if the rancheros El Caminos are a different brand, but they still make that kind of car in Australia. I saw several of them were and they were new. Yeah, they're they're the they're the they're the Ford Falcon Yute, and then there's the Holden, which is GM. Well, I don't know that much. They're actually not they're stopping. I'm not stopping, but they're the sales of those particular body styles are dropping because the cost of imported ranger pickups from Thailand as well as other Asian pick up manufacturers are so much cheaper. Hmm. Um, I guess, I mean, I love that one so much. Maybe it's changed a bit. Maybe it hasn't, but when I was a kid, again, we lived in the country, but it was like, you had a car and you had a truck. You had to have a truck because you had to load things into the back of the truck and take them places and go to the dump and like you needed a truck. That's, you know, almost every family had a truck because otherwise you had to borrow someone else's truck. Right. Take things places. I sat in one of these. So maybe in the certain places of Australia, it's still, you know, you know, a high ticket item as it would be in the U.S. It's the pick up of Australia. That's people who buy the station wagons for that instead of trucks because we were a little bit, you know, we were in the city. What if you had to put like a lumber in the back? You know, like, you don't want it to be like in clothes. My dad put lumber in the back of the rambler all the time. You just roll the window down the back. That's the little red flags are for. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Or you just buy a suburban and then you just open the giant. That was a Nash rambler. That's what we had. That's awesome. Yeah. We, we always had a Ford truck and then like we had a camper that you could take on and off. So like if we were going camping, have the camper on like the kids is in the back and, you know, like, you know, we sleep in there. But otherwise it would be like, yeah, we're taking stuff to the dump. But the station wagon kind of went out of vogue and and the ones that stuck around got smaller. And so like my sister, it was like, oh, yeah, just we just have F one fifties. That's that's all she has. I don't know. I'm still wrapping my head around the idea of Ford dropping everything but the trucks and. Well, they're dropping them in the U.S. They're still going to keep cars overseas. I might. Well, part of it is that they're classifying their crossover vehicles, which can be like a very tall. Basically, it's SUV built off of car chassis. Right. They're classifying those as trucks. They're not because they can they can skip some of the cafe rules on the mileage. See. Let me see. I just don't eat at those cafes. Little. What I found kind of weird was back in the olden days, which is for me, the nineties, they were considering California adding a special special registration fee for trucks because they would be all classified as commercial. It didn't matter if you just used it, which is that's that's ridiculous. Not all trucks are commercial. Well, it's that's what people are. You know, it didn't do it either. Right. No, no, a lot of people because it was ridiculous. That's what I didn't realize in Colorado. You need a truck plate like license plates different. Oh, you need that in Illinois, too. It's not it's kind of silly because it's not like you need to do much. You just say, oh, I'm getting these plates for a truck and then they give you truck plates. I think there's a difference. And they give you the same plates in California, but they just charge you more. In fact, they used to it's funny. They finally used to charge you if you had a cap on your truck, they wouldn't charge you by like the gross vehicle weight rating. You would get a larger charge. But they finally made it out a couple of years ago because people were rolling in to with their truck, their caps on their trucks to get a lower rate on the on the registration and then taking them off. Oh, yeah. So yeah. They had a truck. It was pretty nice. But it was also a gas guzzler. That's the problem, right? Like they're harder to park if you're in a city and they they use a lot of gas. And everyone calls you on the truck. They need to move something. Hey, come over. That's the problem. I mean, it does depend on the truck. You're right, Patrick, but but pound for pound, you can always find a more fuel efficient sedan than you can a truck. Yeah, I'm not arguing that way. I mean, I but it was also I mean, it's funny when I when I went when I got the big Dodge, the Cummins, the thing that made me laugh is it has a, you know, a 5.9 liter engine, but it got better. It got better mileage than the three liter in the Ranger. Oh, yeah. The three, you know, it got better mileage than the. Yeah, we've got better miles in the Ranger. It got better mileage than the 3.4 in the T 100. And it got better mileage than the Volvo. Well, probably like and plus this car is the gas gas mileage gets worse. So what's what's like the like average like highway? Gas mileage of what you're talking about, Patrick, for my particular truck? Yeah, the one who get the the the I can get like 20. Yeah, but it's that's extremely high. And I'm far with the Dan. Yeah, I was going to say that's about the same as the Audi Eileen has. Yeah. And even my Prius is down down in the high 20s, low 30s these days, because it's so old. Is it so old? Or is it because because mileage, I'll be honest with you, mileage shouldn't actually drop that much as the car gets older, unless there's significant damage to the engine. I mean, could it be because there's significant damage to the engine? Or maybe it's or damage to the battery, right? Yeah, I was going to say if it's a better over in 2013. So it's about halfway through its life. And I did not notice halfway through the life. The previous time I did not notice this dip. And I still average 28 miles a gallon on my Camry. That's good. It's, you know what? I'm impressed with that car. Yeah, you can do better, right? But that's that's, you know, the high 20s is that's good. That was also at 11,000 miles. My first Honda Civic hatchback, which was in 1984. I bought it much later, but it was my first car that almost 40 miles to the gallon. That little car was, I don't know why I ever got rid of it. I've got 140,000 miles on my car, too. Like it's it's been around. Jens car. Oh, man, I want to get Jens car over 200 before I decide to do anything with it, like ditch it. I want to get it really close to needing to have the drive battery replaced again. And then. Well, I'm impressed because Patrick's driven my wife's car. It's this little black Scion XD. And I think, you know, I'm impressed like as soon as I swapped out that I replaced all the struts and the shocks on it. It handles a lot better. I mean, the tires, the tires as opposed to put on are an oddball size. You always have to special order or I could get something whiter for a Scion. That's annoying. But it gets great gas mileage. It's pretty durable and it doesn't have a lot of features. So there's not a lot to break on it. Always a bit close. Just got to top it off with oil because it burns oil. Hundred sixty hundred. Did you add comment tags to the MP3 in the template, Roger? Or did the system do that? No, I did. You did that. OK. Yes, I'm sorry. No, no, no. I was just because I've been noticing sometimes it replaces it and adds that weird garbage. Yeah. Well, I changed the template this morning to get to to to try to get rid of that same garbage. So I was curious if what I did caused that. No, no, no, that was that was the hand of Chang. Yeah, that's good. That's good. It's good that it was you that I would rather it be that. Oh, should we say bid adieu to our YouTube? Yes. Thank you, video folks for watching and have a pleasant weekend. Audio folks, stick around. There's more to come. Have a wonderful weekend, video. Whoa, what happened?