 Mwanshwa kipingi ituwae in the morning, you just in time for the next conversation of the day. My name is Ram Magukko, this is all about health today. We are talking about drug and substance abuse. Have you ever interacted with someone who does that, drug abuse? What are the reasons as to why they indulge into it? Do you know some of the preventive measures? What do we need to do as youths to cover ourselves to jilinde? For us to be able to protect each other and take care of one another. This is all about creating awareness on drug abuse, especially among the youth. And even as a parent, how can you tell? Is it possible for you to be able to know whether your child is abusing drugs? Because some parents end up knowing way later when it has escalated to the point of addiction. This morning I'm joined by Anthony Njaga, he is a counselling psychologist, he is a mentor, he is a public speaker. He is a killer kid. Karebusana Baba. Santi Sana Bro. Na Shkoro. Mwana api mwa kikimendikuwa? Encouraged to inspire. Encouraged to inspire. It's an initiative whereby I go to schools, sanasana universities, colleges, high school. Kungalese issues, like this month nafanya, drug abuse, alcohol and masturbation, which we challenge kubu sanasana, sanasana for the young people. Miki na waju ikusu zivi tu. Tunainda tu wuko tunawangelesha because now when you wait for counsellors, na umtu aku jesession kuako aku kungeleshe, ita utangoja sana. Ita utangoja sana. But now that's what we are doing this now today. We have brought the counsellor Mwanawe to your living room. Tunainda kungeleshe, aku pashe kama di pukupu. Atu apashe. Tunainda tu faktu bilezi. Tunainda tu na accept this things as a human. Tunainda tu faktu bilezi. Tunainda tu faktu bilezi. Tunainda tu faktu bilezi. Engage with us. The hashtag is one in the morning at Ram Maguko. Tag him also. You're on Instagram and Facebook. Yes, official Antonin Jenga on Instagram. Facebook Antonin Jenga. Yes. Official Antonin Jenga. Yes. Umpatia api vi IG, Facebook. Tag him, comment. At Y2Five channel. Remember we are also live on our website. www.kbc.co.ke 4 slash Y254. Participate with us and we shall sample your feedback as we continue with this one conversation. So, Bon Antonin. Yes. You have an initiative. First of all, let's start based. What is this initiative all about? Ulianza Lini and what is it that pushed you towards going for this? And why? Why? Why this? Nikianza encourage to inspire. Actually, it's a long process but let me try and bring it to you guys. Encourage to inspire Ulianza way back. The idea came to me way back in 2020 around, let's say, August. Uko June. Agatikovidili kwe mi shikavizuru lastia. So, the idea came to me and I thought issues ni mingi, young people are going through a lot. Nakumboka lastia, a lot of issues are going on. Mingi sana, psychological, wato li kwa na face a lot. With the pandemic. Yes, with the pandemic. And with the increase of violence now that people are at home, isolation. Exactly. So, like I kujia that now, that now, if you kachinu nga jemtro, kachinu nga jemtro kujia kungaleshe amakua kwambishi dazaki, it will take time. So, why don't I now go to these people now, the young people mo sokozi, generation yasemi wambi ama young people. If you watch me right now in your young person, and your young person is between the age of 15 years to 35 years. And if you in that age bracket and you watch me right now. Encourage to inspire is here to tell you things that you didn't know. Kubitu huku na jua about nendele. As we go by life in nendele and time in nendele, generation nga change things and new people nakuja new things. So, I am here now to tell you as a young counselor because I am only 23 years as a young counselor. 23? Yes. Oh my God. Imagine. I am so young son raga kukurilit na mayut. Yes. So, feel free. And you see, this is so rare. This is so rare. And I was, you know, watching what you do because I've seen some of the things you do on YouTube. Yes. You have clips that are there. Yes. And you're doing a very fantastic job. Thank you so much. I don't know how is the reception on the ground so far? The reception is good. One thing, one thing, one thing, one thing, one thing, one thing, one thing, one thing, one thing, one thing, one thing, one thing, one thing, one thing, one thing, one thing, one thing, one thing one thing, you see these ще many kids. And the reality in life nyesiko, so many are here, drugs, how attacking. So certainly. Yes like it in dbd too because now only $pohambi wants them. So I wanna encourage inst Picka Kujo tPart, and I came last year and until now I've got it but to school, a launch sheet last year KMTC check 38 in the, Mastabation to alcohol. Mastabation kunza ui story ni. Na fakhutafutahukuu ngele na mba'ya. Mastabation. Yes. Iba nitaa kwa Drugs. And drug abuse. It can start from any age. Yes. One thing that many people don't know is it can start from any age. From your dealings with people on the ground. Umuwa na waliwa dogo sana, wana zfika enjigani apivi, kwa miki dogo, enyo naza kutimiya drugs? Onajiwa skwezi funny thing, unaza pata mtoto, actually that's it. Ui ni mtoto na jafkisha 18. A 14-year old, 13-year old ana tumiya drugs. Mtoto na chanamu woka, ui mtoto na wutabangi, ui mtoto na jinvovna heroin, kokei, nani mtogo. Na waza zia wajuizu vitu? Waza zia wajuizu, wana fiki rei umtutuango ni very innocent. Kumbi mtoto na mkukitumiya bangia, mkukitumiya heroin, nani kokei, nani jini amaji. You know drugs, drug abuse, drugs in substance abuse, nili you overusing something. Na jo kama ni down, na jo izin medications na piyango ahosi. Izo ni drugs, right? Lakin if you overuse it, kukitumiya excess, now you're abusing the drugs. Pia iyo nid, one of drug abuse na pia izima drug abuse, kama bangi, kokei, heroin, mirai and stuff like that. Okitumiya excessively you are abusing the drugs. And you know one thing that we need to highlight also is, sometimes a parent doesn't know. And I don't know if there is a parent that is watching us today. You have a child, that child is 12, 13. Then maybe abusing drugs and you have no clue. And they're doing it right in front of you. Right in front of you. So one thing I'd like to tell the parents, if you're watching me right now, one thing I'd like to, kwa ambia, ibit a young parent, bit an elder parent. Okiyona, let's say for example, definitely hata kwa ambia na tumizi drugs, na kufichi amibi na kwa gupa yo so strict on the kid and everything. Na kini? Na kwa uliza taka taha. Taka taha. Asa, unadjo amtu toa kwa definitely ataka mani na 13, 14, anana zangana tuvi tufishi-fishi kama manbi esti ako nao. Okiyona zaka kwa amtu toa kwa nafika, umu mambia time ya kufika kwa kunyumba ni 6, umu tu na na fika 7. Ataka mani 1 hour late, juliza na fika. Anani, alafu akifika kwenyumba, haende sitin room, anana direct to the bedroom. Bedroom direct? Bedroom direct. You should be careful with people who go direct to the bedroom. Kuna kituana ficha. Lazi na kuna kituana ficha. Anana kujana na bedroom na kuna chwinga ma metyu. Umu muliza muna utemi. Hata kia kwa table room na kula apo, ako tuna chwinga muna wu situa ma betwinga ma amini kutusawa. Alafu anana cheka cheka. Kuna zeli tu ma sense na nana wu mitu wa yuko sawa. Anana zaka kuka ni kama kudizi-dizi, afil-fiti. Those are some of the signs. Someone who's chewing. Chwinga ma. Usidani tu ni bolgamia. Ni bolgamia kawida. Inaza kwa na ondoa harufia bangi. Chwinga ma skweziwa na tumi anana kwa na ondoa harufia bangi. Kufita white. Anana chitu. Atraki karibia na wemi ma na kudzak kungalesha, ma umu kwa puka table room, ma umu kwa pukunawangia, ma umu kuna hochi ni uzo stuff like that, emu ma umu kwa muna ohi tuwea. Ngayi wo muna wu na fukiria kwa sawa. Kumbe ni anana traiki fitu ya yu smell between Asi usidibdi Udrive L. Asa muna pata yu chewinga matahitaw. Anana dananda wu huli, muna umalizi chewinga, asubu ya mi yamki, muna umalizi chewinga, mibiata asubu ya lukua mebeba pafikido, waka na loo, kasmoga kachuko air freshena, kachuko spray, mibiata unai fenya kwanyumba na weini na wajuwi, wa zazi yawajuwi. So wana fukiria... jola yag kiza na kwa zini ya, aamiye ajam tu toa ke ensef hands Kuma tu toa ke na tumiya this drugs to this thing is so sad, ni maia sana biki mafia people are learning nowadays Nowadays, V2, genera neneh change wana to one we have any other things that we want to talk about china maji that youths are doing that are actually associated with drug abuse una pata wana jua as i was telling you before the show ndi ka wana me cheka wana juqasu drugs kwa na una yekanga kwa different things. Una jwa ni meski hauji kuna kwa naka naka kitu ni to weed kuki. If you're a parent, watch me. Watch it me right now. Mtu tuwa kiki kujaka nyumba mbe ba cookies. Don't take that ni kama cookies a kawa ida. Naka kwa naka weed content. Kuna weed naza kwa kukis, naza kwa ugali. Una naka bati de party. Mtu tuwa kuna bati de party na bestia. Yaki mbe bia family friend. Kuma family friend na shikanishana yo drugs. Ame na kapika ugali. Kafiki re ugali tu ni ni. Just for... Ugarli piya unna. Mtu tuwa mbe kula ugali a mbe shiba na jeveli ugali na shibishanga. Mtu tuwa mbe naza kucheka. Iza ma effects bangi kucheka. Too much laughter. Una kula excess. Pia mtu tuwa bidewek yo naka nyumba na kula ugali. Ame kwa kikula ugali portion kido kwa ma cha patin bili ya ma moja. Ya maza kula ja patitana. Bangi. Bangi na lita. Ina ampati ya so many other types. To something that... So bangi na zaba ya mda kule kama kitu gini. Bangi ni mba. Mi nambiyangawa sayi. I remember nili ya chaku wuta bangi like four years ago. You used to do drugs? Yes, I used to do drugs four or five years ago. Dika wacha I used to do bang. This one I'm doing it. I know maybe my parent hajuwi, but I used to do. Mam, kama nani watch. Polisana I didn't tell you this, but now we are on air. We had to do this. Mi metoma kama mba yamba. You're not confessions. Confessions, but anyway it's true. How come you were able to hide it paroko a na Jo yu mam na when you... we werebery doing it in a camp motoruming place. I was on an issue in Nairobi. We were doing boardings. As forئa chaku 2 weushi umi nani na gindaal, na widuz, agini ya ja at this time onwards. I remember activ Particularly moko Mkeli kili ya kumisa took a look on years ahead. nm'ilu u kumesa, granmous there, hungos there canvas may be family meetings sasawa oku za nga kusia mandi wa iiu iiu yu anakula mira anakula vidu zambuzi weu iu did was so embarrassing wa inilio feel too vibhaya ii remember, aki ni mi... iious to really use bank for some time nili kwenakunya di pomba vibhaya sana nili kwenakuu ya di home late and people used to think, some of my hongos used to notice mazei since then mazei mi na shkuru iiit's not anizu, nikiwa jisha mtu Anatumiya drugs and everything, not only bang, maybe anatumiya cocaine, heroine, maybe ochi mi right now you're young person, wukuna challenger kunduka from, amaku jitoa from, heroine usage, cocaine usage, bang piya, other type of drugs, it is not an easy journey, but trust you me, what I can tell you is this, take time, usi, usi, usi, usi, appreciate your small winnings, asin wukuna leo, wukuna kunditu miya heroine, cocaine, bang for, kilasiko, kilasiko, wume on at least for today, nkesho, wume tu miya for a period, kido agot warakama wume, wume tu miya rogama. You just mean the mice, if it was number 20, 10, 5. Trust you me bro, kwa chaisi bitu si rahisi, see once, if it is addiction, inakwa wanga very challenge kutakum se kwa yo stuff, addiction is very very bad, okwa addicted into something. What made you stop? What made you change? I used to, ok piya wana jwa, I'm a first born, wana jwa piya kuhu let kuhu, illa first born mentality and now I have siblings waka nyumayangu wana ni watch. Being a mentor, wana bongaza. Another thing I did change in myself, principle yango, I decided now this thing hita nipelakama, it will just drown me. Imagine I'm 23 years and I don't do that, I stopped doing it, niki, nikiwa nikiwa high school, sana. And when did you start? At around what age then? Nili kwa 14, 14, 14, 15, 16, between 14, 15, 16 hapwa. Wow, and you can imagine those who are watching from home, if it can happen to someone like Jega, it can happen to you and even at a tender age you are even younger than 14. So myself, I was in ajam, I was in ajuchu, Ugali, Japati, Japati wana kulekses everything. You checked excessively for yourself? I checked it. You checked? You only aimlessly for yourself? That's why sometimes I don't like people who just love you. When I came in, they said it was a joke. I checked you, I checked it. Maybe you checked that you are mudabang. Hahaha, something we can say. We just finished in... I would look at some reasons to make people want... do drugs because apparently outside they realize that they are doing drugs That is so涼iv, and in this context the reason is as well that leads or push towards drug and substance abuse One thing I will say is peer pressure Peer pressure is the main thing The company, the group of people, miwa maybe I'll say Show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are If you choose the brand and buy it So if one of the friends in your company in your group uses these drugs Trust them They will influence you Definitely So peer pressure is one of the major reasons kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa k Ntia mnye sk tieson na skey mbika na sifa, yile sifa yi konayo So, yami enda mnske ni kisha dya, ame wuta Pusa ame kisha, dya nazafany na msiyafil fiti Aki hainda policingine Piya kustiza, what you hear from people Yole yole, yole yod story a drugs ime kwa ni kama ikona film fullanim People are talking about it even yana yana makehai and everything And then people, you end up thinking that it's actually a good thing because you can talk about it a lot which is not You feel like, hey I'd like to try it Yes, yi kona say defects nbain I think that is social pressure. Yes, social pressure. What to? I want us to look at it in terms of, also in terms of the self-esteem of an individual. Does it have an effect on someone's self-esteem? The drugs? Yeah, the drugs. Can having low self-esteem also push someone towards that? Yes. Kama ni mutumunye a kuwangi interactive na wa say hawezi stepa, pa ezi kuwana that confidence, an a kuwanga tokiwi ake na ogopa. Actually, that can make that person because one thing, being idle in a causing drugs a lot, drug and substance abuse. When you idle most of the time, auna company, auna ma besti wu konawa nye munaiz at least, mwende mw semi munainda kufanya sport fulani. You're always idle, you're always free. You know there are these people we call, is it melancholic or introverts? Hawe ni watu biniwa na. You know introverts, ya watu apendi ku interact, they're not extroverts, they're not outgoing. Ya, you know they're just people who just love themselves, company ake kevi ake. So hapun eza pia, hana self-esteem ya ake, ata awezi approach mwama bie, e mi na feel ni kama ni kuna pressure kutumi ezi staff. Is it right or wrong auliza? Ata auliza kwa zana shindwa ni tanzaanza haji. So self-esteem ya ake na kwa demoralize aku ineyo self-confidence and end up kutumi ezi drugs. Na salsa wewe, there's one thing that pushed you toward starting it. Yes. From that time, must have been in high school. Yes, in high school. Biniwa ni ilu kusku masasa wewe maniawe, because at the end of the day, bia mtu anashanga, mtu mani ako shule, Anomal afrikana parent will say nili kupela kashule wusome. Wusome. Unafanya ni ni. Unafanya ni ni. Kazi ni kwenakutumi e ma dawa. Bale mi teli, I'd like to tell parents pia, awa ni wa toto. Definitely. Laki ni, they're human like just you. Naki lam tu wana kwa nga na pressure kivi ake. But don't usi tangi usi isolate usi neglect mtu towa ake. Ako atika sababa wana tumia these things. Najiwa, inaza kwa ni hakwa na jwa. Najiwa hakwa na ila, hakwa na idea what these things are. Naka kwa introduced na friends ukushu. Laka ma mimi nili kwa introduced tuma base. Wabu base tuli kwa ni introduced nwenda. Outa na sama. Sushika hi nifegi. Shika hi nifegi. Najiwa fei gina effect. Mi na cha pangwa. Ina cha pavibasa ana. I remember, by the way, I sita sama sana. One shout, I used to use seven in a day. What? Rolls saba. Ina day? Ina day. Please mama. Ina choma hape playo yo take. Najiwa mula siku. I think I also, I almost got into that. One day ata wima mangwa jwi. We were in school primary. Primary. And then there is a particular toilet. I think they like going to the washroom. Washroom, exactly. Ina kwa nga place fula ni wanaeza medited. Siji wana. Siji wana washrooms harufuna. Washrooms wana wedi na nga nga adi. Di wana. Di wana. These people who use a lot of bangi wana kwa nga. They are not clean. They are not clean people. They are not clean. Because they are in a way. It's a drug and substance abuse. It's a mental health illness. I kwa nge tukitu akawida. Someone will just wake up in the morning. Amu ata anza. Ina kwa nga ina anza nga from Samuia. Young people, let's say for example, university and campus. Ina colleges e. Una patamtua me toka shule ana expectata pata job. Wana sayi kuna COVID-19 jobs ni nga muku pata sayi. Honestly speaking, sayi things are, life is so hard, so difficult. So your pressure na fanyam pra? Pressure. Ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, Anu feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel, ana feel po kwa kn Cabinet inankata souhi, anda feel Benin La Pe dialoga near thik majedegi stocksa kio k động pidaw inakati kf too 60, We are in tough times I felt that people go through issues when they are at school Yes I was afraid of Let me speak to the young people If you are young person watching你 na shindwa bangi, what is this you are talking about? Bangi bangi bangi zmarujuana wana itanganguwai, kivela, marijuana, kishada. So kiskezi majina, iyo tini bank. Na iyo kitu inakwangana effects, not when you're well-typassive, muntua kivuta for the first time, sivilem tu miniyata ipassive, kuna mba kivuta for the first time atachizi. Na kuna mba kivuta for the first time ata enjoy na ikwe. So you might think it's a sweet thing to have, you might think it's a sweet thing to enjoy doing, lakini trust tu mi, ii kitu ina zakwana effect, baya sana. Antoni? Yes. Time is not on our side. Takan, we say, story, inena biosana. Inena biosana. I want to give you just 30 seconds. Yes. Wrap it all up, have a final word about drug and substance abuse to be used there. And also you can just mention just one or two things that we should do to prevent such things. Okay, 30 seconds, right? Yes. Hama, one minute. Anyway, what I'd like to say is this, if you're watching me right now and you're a young person and you use these things, You don't blam or asemeti. You are not a human. You are a normal human being and kilam tu anaji patangaku wa such things. These things have effects. N Bandha, ita kwa effect of the bias. I tell the young people if you don't usi pojenga se, you know we are the future generations. So if you spoil your time right now, oki jia ribusahi, trust me, in fichita kwa very difficult. Now you can prevent. Take your time, Poli poli poli poli. Kamu me tu onoka kitu mia heroin 4 times in a day. At least 2 times in a day. Poli poli poli poli. Kamu me kwa kiki fanyanga. The drugs, every weekend, every weekend, every weekend. Try to say me he weekend sita tumia. Yes. And my social media accounts on Instagram is at official Antonin Jenga. On Facebook Antonin Jenga. And you guys go support and encourage to inspire initiative. Nakamu kwa pali and you're a principal or teacher. Nkwa na shule. You want us to come. Halami on my Instagram DM. Nambangu kwa po. Now we will be interacting. Zanda Zanda. At Y254 channel. The hashtag is one in the morning at Ram Agukko. Engage with us. That business to the end of this conversation. Antonin. Yes. We cannot touch on everything. Like kini, it has been a pleasure. Thank you so much. Zanda Zanda. Uda apakonza kongelereyo story amastabesion. Plana de unite. Wait wait. Thank you so much. Thank you my brother. Okay. That business to the end of this conversation. We are taking a short play. Could be back in a bit. This is why in the morning.