 And everything I've looked at, Calvary Chapel is Orthodox. They believe in the grace of God, they believe in faith, they believe in salvation. As Paul said in the first chapter of 1 Corinthians, they've come in the right way. I would say that Calvary Chapel's theology is pretty well right down the line of old-fashioned evangelical and evangelistic doctrine. There's no doubt of their belief in God's plan of salvation. They believe in the cross of Jesus Christ, in the power of the blood to cleanse from sin. They believe in the veracity of the Word of God. They believe in the power of the Holy Spirit. In the second coming of Christ, I like the emphasis that is constantly being placed on the fulfillment of prophecy and the coming of the Lord. I have really very little to complain about the doctrine. From a theological standpoint, it sort of has an identity all its own. It's sort of a hybrid. I guess I heard somewhere that Baptists think Chuck is a Pentecostal and Pentecostals think he's a Baptist. And so there's a certain amount of ambivalence among people about exactly where it lands doctrinally. So it has sort of an identity all its own. But we're not to be surprised by that, because there is a progression in history in the development of doctrine so that at every point in time in the history of the church, there are movements that have nuances of newness to them and freshness to them. Calvary Chapel, although it's very open to the gifts of the spirit and Chuck Smith himself indicates that he speaks in tongues in private, nevertheless, in terms of public worship, it's quite seldom that one sees anyone speaking in tongues or any direct, charismatic, more Pentecostal experience. So one might characterize Calvary Chapel as having a kind of soft Pentecostalism as opposed to a hard Pentecostalism. They are definitely in the charismatic stream, but I would see them in what I call a healthy charismatic approach in that rather than emphasizing the Holy Spirit to where they neglect the other two persons of the Trinity, they tend to cause the body to look at the spirit in a very healthy way. And I think that the Calvary Chapel's theology of the Holy Spirit has allowed non-charismatic churches to have a good look at the charismatic movement without being scared. Calvary Chapel has not been a charismatic church from the traditional charismatic kind of a back, what you think of when you think of charismatic. We do believe in the validity of the gifts of the Holy Spirit and the operation of the gifts of the Holy Spirit in the church today. However, we believe that if the gifts of the Spirit are to be in operation within the church, then we should follow the biblical rules that have been set down. I have held healing services in the Calvary Chapel, but done in what I call decently in an order. So I would say it's very orthodox, very orthopractic. The orthopraxy is right there. I would say the charismatic is done in good taste. It's neither to the extreme. Calvary Chapel traditionally has made the emphasis upon the teaching of the word. In the Gospel of Mark it sort of concludes where they went everywhere preaching the word and the Holy Spirit working with them with signs following. And so these signs shall follow those that believe. And we believe that God can work in miraculous ways today and does work in miraculous ways today. However, the signs are not the major thing. They're sort of a secondary thing. They follow the teaching of the word and the preaching of the word. How do you work with churches like the vineyard who more or less came out of Calvary Chapel so to speak and started doing things their own way? Is there competition? Is there a sense of spiritual budding heads? And these are the questions when it relates to philosophy and ministry that have to be addressed. The pastors were wanting to move more into the realm of experience. They were wanting to make the emphasis of their ministries the experiencing of these signs and of these wonders. They were wanting to make that the dominant issue of the ministry rather than the teaching of the word. In other words, that was to be their primary emphasis and the word would then be trying to find the word that would sort of verify the experience rather than the experiences that just grew out of the word. And so a group of them decided that that's the emphasis that they wanted to take. And so they went with our blessings. We encouraged them in fact to change their name to Vineyard and to go ahead and if that's the direction they felt they wanted to go. Let's not break the fellowship. They did subsequently break the fellowship but we encourage them to remain in fellowship. Surely our love for Christ and His word should be greater than the different emphasis that we have taken. To me the highest mark of Christian maturity is the ability to agree to disagree and still love each other. And so many Christians fight over so many things that don't deal with heaven and hell. They frankly deal with our personal preferences and our doctrinal distinctives. And I think Chuck Smith has really mastered through the grace of our Lord the ability to look at controversial issues and disagreeing viewpoints and to handle them wisely and kindly. There's a great example in that. We got up at the following pastor's conference and told the pastors that this other group had formed and if they wanted to make that the major emphasis of their ministry that they should leave and go and become a part of this other group that our intention was just to stick with the teaching of the word of God with the signs following and seeing and not making that the major emphasis of the ministry the teaching of the word and the building up of the saints in the word. I went back to my hometown and I loved my city and I wanted to see God move in my city. And so as I went back there I got involved in a little church and they received me, I received them and it was a great time together. I was there for about a year and I learned how not to have church because it was a Pentecostal church that was out of control and I was really, I grew up a lot there that one year learning how the gifts were not to be used that we be not as babes who are tossed to and fro with every wind of doctrine and you see that's the background I came from Mike and I didn't want to go back into that background the Lord brought me into the place of building up the body teaching and making a strong body that aren't moved with every wind of doctrine I think that historically in the past 10 years or history now but if you look at that standpoint you see how that they have followed one wind of doctrine after another one experience after another and there's the lack of stability because you're always looking for some new experience some new phenomena that you can't explain or some new working some and they're always talking about this new move of the spirit new wave of the spirit and they're just tossed to and fro and they don't have a strong enough Biblical background to many times discern whether or not it is really Biblical or not In about 1973 or so I was attending a Baptist church for the fellowship and all I was going to Biola at that time and I became very good friends with the young adult pastor I at that time was a young adult I was 23 and I still remember driving with him from the Baptist church and we were going out for lunch because we went to Biola together and as we drove out from the church there at the first Baptist church there in Downey and drove down a street that was right next to the church there was a it looked like a garage that excuse me had it had somebody had spray painted on the side of this small garage something like New Life Ministry and as we drove by my friend John says to me that's a church there in that garage I said really and he goes yeah we think it's a cult and I'm telling you it was red spray paint somebody had just gone out and just New Life Ministry in red spray paint and later on I found out it was Jeff Johnson and that's where he had begun his services and it was right there Jeff Marie my wife and I met Jeff and Karen not long after that and so I've known Jeff and Marie has been friends with Karen for a long time as I've mentioned Jeff Jeff dedicated my daughter Karen to the Lord when she was a month old and all the problems I've ever had I blame on Jeff and his incorrect dedication of my daughter but so we've known him a long time and he over the years he came and has become a very dear friend of mine so when I see him sharing some things and talking about how he had gone to a Pentecostal church that was really an out of order kind of congregation and he has shared that more than once with us and all in how that he learned some things of the Holy Spirit what not to do but with Pastor Chuck and under Pastor Chuck's ministry he learned what balance is and that's what we're going to be looking at today out of acts and I'm going to use verse 8 as my introduction and then I'm going to do what I've been doing I'm going to share some things that relate to our experience and things that we relate to scripturally as it pertains to the Holy Spirit this is a balanced theology and so let me read verse 8 and give you an introduction and we'll see where we can go verse 8 and so let me begin to give you some insight into my own personal spiritual journey as it pertains to the works of the Holy Spirit I was raised in the Catholic church but I never really went beyond basic doctrine I never became a theologian of any sort you know I was raised in the church I was baptized an infant and in December of 1950 I went to catechism classes and when I was 7, 8 years old I ultimately and received my first communion when I was 12 or 13 I received my confirmation I still remember my confirmation name my confirmation name was Richard and the reason I called myself Richard wasn't because I named myself after a saint because that's what you do when you receive your confirmation and you take a new name I just had a buddy named Ricky then I really thought was cool and I wanted to be like Ricky so even I actually signed my social security card David Richard Rosales when I went in the army I went in the army as David Richard Rosales because I didn't know that your confirmation name was not a legal name and I don't have a middle name so I took the name Richard from there when I got older and stopped doing that I changed my middle name to a little savage and I married sad girl anyway so I never went beyond basic doctrine I had never heard the Catholic teaching related to the experience that Jesus is speaking about here in Acts 1.8 when he said you shall receive power after that the Holy Spirit has come upon you that is the experience of what is called the baptism of the Holy Spirit and I had never heard that term we were not taught that term in our basic catechism classes and all so I'd never heard of that you see the church teachings didn't speak of the baptism of the Holy Spirit at that time I hadn't heard it the church didn't use that term but they did teach and this is Catholic theology they did teach that the spirit is given at baptism so when the charismatic movement hit the Catholic church they had an answer for what was being said because the term baptism of the spirit was being used but what they said at that time and still do is well no that's the renewing of the baptism in the spirit which in Catholic theology is really a reference to water baptism well around 1969 there was a movement that was sweeping the world it was called the charismatic movement many of you have probably heard of that but I'm going to assume that most of you are younger and would not remember that but it was called the charismatic movement and people were beginning to experience the gifts of the Holy Spirit Catholic theologians began grappling with what was then happening you see again from a Catholic point of view the baptism of the spirit has been defined as a religious experience which initiates a decisively new sense of the powerful presence and working of God in one's life which working usually involves one or more charismatic gifts and so that was starting to happen amongst people in the Catholic church even the Catholic church itself even Baptists were beginning to ask God for more of the spirit to fall on us afresh so that was a very unique moment in church history that was happening at that time but I hadn't heard of it so when I got saved I went to Calvary Chapel and that's where I was introduced to the baptism of the Holy Spirit I still remember I was at a home after Bible study and there was a young man who was seated in the front room and his back was against the wall and I was on a couch and he was probably six feet away from me he was right there his back was against a wall and he was moving kind of you know slowly and he was speaking I thought it was gibberish it was just something I didn't understand and so one of the older believers he must have been at least four months old and the Lord came and sat next to me and I asked him what is he doing what's he doing and he said oh he was baptized in the Holy Spirit tonight and he's speaking in tongues and I said oh really and that was the first time I heard the phrase baptized in the Holy Spirit and that's the first time I ever heard the phrase speaking in tongues and so somebody came and sat next to me and this young man was still kind of quietly speaking to himself and the young man turns to me and he says what's he doing and so I now became the theologian and I turned to him I still remember looking at him and I said oh he was baptized in the Holy Spirit tonight he goes really really I said yes and he goes and what's he doing I said he's speaking in tongues because that's what I had just been told and I was just he's speaking in tongues he says he is I said yeah I think it's Hebrew but I'm not sure see so I went a little bit further and I still remember that I still remember being there and watching this take place seeing what was happening but I became curious about the power of the Spirit a power that is made available to us as believers you see Jesus had promised this and I wanted it in my own life he said you shall receive power and I know the weakness of my flesh I know that the will is present but the ability to perform that desire is not I know the energies of my own flesh and the strength that I have in my own will that will not give me the power to do those things that I most desperately desire I need another source of power I need something greater you know and I'm aware of that I'm sure every believer in this room is too how the will is present and the ability to perform that which you desire very often is not you want to do what is right and doing that which is not and so I know that about myself I knew that from when I got saved that I need something beyond me something to help me do those things that I very seriously want and so I became aware of this promise here in Acts 1 and I wanted that in my own life and so in early 1971 I prayed with a group of young believers and I received the baptism of the Holy Spirit I didn't see that as some odd thing I think unfortunately what has taken place over the years since that innocent time in the early 70's is that some of the more outlandish behaviors that are associated with Pentecostalism have found themselves broadcast on television and so people will be acting out in the flesh blaming it on the Spirit and then the world will tune in on this particular program and they'll just kind of like watch these people and some of you have seen some of the extremes I've seen extremes I've been in meetings one in particular comes to mind where they had what are called Holy Rollers and some of you know what Holy Rollers are I had heard of it when I grew up my mom said well you know my mom wasn't a Christian but I still remember my mom trying to teach me some basic life theology and she said you have the Catholics and you have the Hallelujah's that's what my mom called Pentecostals she said you've got the Hallelujah's and people still to this day some of you may have grown up hearing that term because the Hallelujah's were the Pentecostals and it turns out my grandmother my mom's mom was a Hallelujah and so my mom said oh there's the Catholics and there's the Hallelujah's and the Hallelujah's were known for being pretty extreme they had TV program with Oral Roberts in the 50's and all and my mom I still remember mama ironing and turning on the television to watch Oral Roberts as he did whatever Oral Roberts was doing at that time and so I grew up aware of some things but not able to explain why people did that and now I'm saved and I want to have all that the Holy Spirit has to offer me and that's why I asked him and I said I need your power you see I didn't see that as an odd request I saw it as common sense why wouldn't I want something that God freely promised to give me why wouldn't I want that why wouldn't I want all the power that I need to live for Christ why wouldn't I want that why wouldn't I want to exercise gifts of the Holy Spirit to see God move through my life and this made sense I didn't overanalyze it I simply said whatever it is I want that I want more of you and I want to exercise gifts and I want to see you move in my life and the life of the church you know and so it was freely offered in Luke chapter 11 Jesus said it like this verses 11 through 13 he said if a son asks for bread from any father among you will he give him a stone if he asks for a fish will he give him a serpent instead of a fish or if he asks for an egg will he offer him a scorpion if you then being evil know how to give good gifts to your children how much more will your heavenly father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him see so I was reading my Bible I was taught to do that when I got saved and I was reading it every day I came across this passage in Luke and I had forgotten it your father in heaven will give you the Spirit if you ask and I wanted the power of the Holy Spirit so when I went to Calvary as a young believer Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa I saw that the ministry was basically emphasizing two things one Chuck Smith the pastor and those who would teach would emphasize the word of God everything had to be lens of Scripture you just didn't say oh I feel this way therefore it's true Pastor Chuck from the very beginning of my Christian life and the influencers in my life said if you have a spiritual experience there needs to be a scriptural explanation you have to see it you see it in Acts 2 you see it when the Apostle Peter is there on the day of Pentecost and the 120 are in that upper room awaiting the promise of the father and then the 120 are baptized by the Holy Spirit and they empty out of that upper room and they go into the streets and they're speaking in languages they've never learned and people begin to mock them and they say these people are filled with new wine remember that and how the Apostle Peter stood up filled with the Holy Spirit this is a guy who not very long before had denied knowing the Lord and this is now a man who's got power and he's got that that sense of the presence of God and the purity that God gives in and he says these men are not drunk with wine as you suppose and he goes on to say but this is that which was given to us by Joel in which he would say that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh my sons and my daughters shall prophesy and he starts to quote Scripture because every spiritual experience you might want to mark this in your heart has got to have a scriptural explanation because the enemy has a tendency of trying to take us down the wrong path I'll share a couple things about that in just a moment when we begin to use our experience as the measuring rod of truth it has to be scriptural and that's what pastor Chuck taught us he said to us it's in the Word of God the Word of God and the second pillar if you will is the Spirit of God so my pastor had been a Pentecostal evangelist some of you may not know that Chuck Smith was a Pentecostal evangelist he and his brother Paul used to be the singing Smith brothers and they would go to different four square churches and they would sing together and then my pastor would give an evangelistic message and he used to see of himself that he was a frustrated evangelist because he just wanted people to be saved so desperately and so he had come out of a Pentecostal background he was a Pentecostal evangelist and a pastor in a Pentecostal church four square church for many years and he wanted to walk in the fullness of the Spirit but he wanted the walk of the Spirit to be informed by God's Word so that's of incredible importance to all of us especially to me because I began to see things happen that needed biblical explanations the Jesus movement is for some people just something that occurred 50 years ago and that's ancient history but it's my history I was part of it and so I remember some of the things there was an amazing explosion of the presence of God by the power of the Spirit that I was as a brand new believer I had never seen anything like it I went to a revival one time because we would go to church the way I used to go to parties when you're in the world they say there's a party in Norwalk there's a party in wherever well when I got saved my friends who I used to party with many of them they'd say there's a revival taking and off we'd go to get into the revival and I still remember that and I saw things sometimes in church services that I still to this day don't have an explanation for I saw things but I still don't have an explanation for what I saw I'll give you one example I don't want to confuse you and give you questions but why not let's share this no I was at this revival somebody had the evangelist had invited us to receive the power at the baptism of the Spirit and so we were at what they call a Terian bench and we were kneeling at the altar and I was saying God fill me with your Spirit and some young man had gone outside into the parking lot and they dragged him in he had actually collapsed in the parking lot and they dragged him in and I still remember I was kneeling right here and they brought him around the front and brought him on and laid him down right in front of me and there were several of us who were kneeling here and now this young man is right in front of me is right in front of me his face and my face is looking into his face that's how close we are and he's making odd sounds you know I'm making sounds you know but his eyes are closed it's like he's out and his hand I don't know some of you have maybe heard of this movie it's an ancient movie called The Beast with Five Fingers and it was about a hand that had been severed it was a murderer's hand and it had a life of its own it was a corny movie but it was in the 50's I still remember and it would figure yourself being chased by a hand and not being able to outrun it okay and it would crawl up the bed and grab you in the door anyway so this guy it's true this fellow was laying there and I saw his hand as if it had a mind of his own I still don't know and it began to move and it landed on his chest and began to crawl up like this while his eyes are closed and I'm like looking I am not kidding and it grabs him by the throat and squeezes and squeezes I am not kidding why would I kid I'm teaching his face gets red he's choking right in front of me I'm going whoa and he's by his own hand and I had just read about casting demons out so I said in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth I command you I'm saying this I'm less than a month old in Christ in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth I command you come out of him and leave him alone and I took his hand now his hand was squeezing his throat enough to make his face red he was being choked and it felt like a feather I'll never forget that I just took his hand and his blood his face becomes normal there were things like that I began to see as a new Christian I am not aware of I have never been around anything like this and so there was a time when the Holy Spirit because we were innocent we just would pray as young believers the oldest amongst us was about a year old in Christ the rest of us were months old we were babies you see we would go to bible study at Cozimesa then we'd come to a house and we would sit in a circle and one first we would sit around and talk about the study what did you hear? what did you get out of it? because we were hungry we wanted to know how to serve God and amongst my friends that is what we talked about we didn't leave a bible study like many today we didn't do that we would leave a bible study and talk about what we learned how are we going to put that into practice that would affect us did you hear it when he said this? that was my early upbringing stay in the Word understand God all my friends were that way so we would sit and talk about the bible study and then we would sing and we would sing some songs many of the songs you hear now are later than when I first got saved some of the early ones we've been doing were the songs I learned they are the ones I don't have to look at the words anymore because they are in my heart I've had them there for 40 some years and so we would sing we would talk about the study and then we would hold hands and we would pray that's what we did and we would pray that God would fall on us that God would move and I still remember when I said father in Jesus' name I want all the power that you can give me I want to live for you I was hungry for that like a lot of people to this day are that sense of His presence and so Jesus is promising something to the church the baptism of the Holy Spirit as mentioned in the study Calvary Chapel we're not Pentecostals but we do understand the charismatic gifts and we believe that the gifts are in existence and we do encourage their exercise we believe and we teach the baptism of the Spirit is vital it brings with it a renewed desire for prayer including freshness in your praise and adoration and thanksgiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit creates a new or a renewed desire to read the Scriptures there are those who say the Scriptures come alive and there's a deeper desire to tell others about God to witness it's also frequently accompanied by a desire for fellowship with other Christians and by the manifestation of the gifts you see this is what happens when you're filled with baptized with the Holy Spirit you're hungry for the Word you want to pray, you want to have fellowship you tell other people I can stand up here as a pastor and I and I can say you know this is what we do it's the day I got saved the day I got saved they said read the Word they said pray to the believers and they said entail somebody so that was my birth experience that's what we Jesus freaks were brought into to share about God to read the Word of God to want to be around people who loved God that's what we wanted we already drank enough of the gutter water of the world we wanted the fresh pure water of the Spirit we were tired of the garbage we were tired of the lies that were told to us we were tired of the judgmental spirit of those who were Christians before us who said if you really believe or cut your hair put on some shoes we had that we had to put up with that they thought that we were just a passing thing just a fad but that wasn't true what happened is God had reached down into our lives God had changed us from the inside so much so that many of us the guys you see like Jeff and Rawl and others like them it became our life it wasn't something we were just kind of doing right now hopefully I'll meet a cute girl at church and all of that it was a transformed life and I knew that I needed power to live in a world that was 100% in opposition I knew it I can't do this on my own I need help every day I might have a mind that wants to do it and I might even read in order that I might learn how to do it but if I don't have the energy to do it it didn't work there are people that remind me of some of the cars you see when you go to the auto show perhaps some of you have gone to the auto show and I've been going to the auto show that they have in Los Angeles since I was a little boy and my sons and my grandsons have gone with us and they'll have what they call concept cars and you'll be walking and they'll say there's a concept car and you'll see this amazingly beautiful designed car I still remember looking at this one sports car two-seater and I'm just looking at this car and I'm saying that is a beautiful car I happen to like cars and I'm looking at it going oh that's a nice car but as beautiful as it was it turns out it was a concept engine if you lift up the hood you look into an empty engine bay there's no engine and so I know I can be like a concept car I can have all the outer appearances if I'm doing well but I've got no power for me to actually go anywhere and so I don't want to just be a washed up hippie I want to be a spirit filled hippie I want to be a man who's transformed that's where the Holy Spirit does his work sometimes we're all frustrated aren't we and Lord you know I want what I've learned to do and I do this pretty much every day if not every day okay I'll say it every day because I wake up with the same basic prayer every day God fill me with your spirit work in my life empower me because the enemy's after he's after me and he's after you every day and he never takes a vacation have you noticed that he never takes a vacation and you can go off on your vacation he's not on one he's on assignment and he's got little imps and you know it's true he's got imps that do his bidding it's part of the structure of Ephesians chapter 6 principalities and powers there is a structure a hierarchy of a military order with the enemy being called the god of this age the ruler of this world who is the commander over an entire echelon of angelic fallen angels who are assigned in many ways to disrupt the kingdom of God and work against you being victorious not everything you go through is because some imp made you do it your flesh conspires with the enemy very often but he's after you and if you don't know that you may be backsliding because he's after you he's after you and I know that and I know that and so I wake up every morning and I say basically the same thing Father help me today strengthen me today I want to be faithful today fill me because I need his power I need his power people ask me how is it that you've walked with the Lord for all these years the power of the Holy Spirit and the love of his word the basic two things I learned as a brand new Christian the desire to know God's word the desire to communicate in prayer the choosing friends who can lift my hands up and be with me and strengthen help to strengthen me and I can strengthen them and be open about my faith those are the four basic things that have kept me strong for 48 plus years now it's just a simple thing the power of the Holy Spirit I need his strength and Jesus promised it and he would give it to us and I have needed it again when I first came to Calvary Chapel there were people who were trying to classify the movement like it was said some said we were Baptist because we emphasize God's word others said they're Pentecostals because we believe in the second experience of the baptism of the Spirit and they used to call us Bapticostals I don't know if you ever heard that now we did not and do not emphasize one gift over another you see early on people began to tell me that the sign of the baptism of the Spirit was speaking in tongues and I didn't see that in Scripture I actually see something different because in 1 Corinthians 12 11 Paul said one and the same Spirit works all these things distributing to each one individually as he wills so I can have a desire for whatever gift but it's the Spirit who gifts you so you can desire to speak in tongues there's not anything wrong with that I do speak in tongues my wife speaks in tongues we have been baptized in the Holy Spirit with an expression of that particular gift but that's not necessary for you to have the power of the Holy Spirit that's not the only gift that he gives you see the gifts of the Spirit are intended to operate in and they operate here's something for you they operate in the church all the time and sometimes people just aren't aware of that we need to remember that Jesus is fully human and he was not neurotic and so when he would minister it was so normal that people would be amazed at the works that were performed but it wasn't as if he would clear his throat and then get kind of odd and then do something supernatural that's not what he did it's very natural and the Holy Spirit flows there's a very great naturalness to it some people are afraid I don't know if the Holy Spirit comes upon me he may make me do something weird and he doesn't he actually makes you normal I was that's nice I was in a church service it was a Sunday night and I had given an invitation that night and people had come forward given their hearts to the Lord in the back of the church at the end of the service this is when we were in Ontario High School and I was standing in the back there in the auditorium when a woman approached me and said to me this is my first time here and I would like to ask you a question if I may and I said of course and she said when does the Holy Spirit move here and I said excuse me she said when does the Holy Spirit move here and he said were you here in the church service today or did you just walk in she said no I was here for the service I said oh okay you're asking me when the Holy Spirit moves here she said yes and it was a polite conversation and I said oh well were you here for worship did you worship with us she says yes I did I was here on time and I worshiped with you I said Holy Spirit moved I said were you here when I taught the word she said yes I sat through the Bible study I said the Holy Spirit moved I said were you here when I gave an invitation and people came forward she said yes I saw that the Holy Spirit moved I said do you see those people standing over there and there were pockets of people praying with one another I said do you see those people there she says yes they're praying with one another she says yes I said the Holy Spirit is moving I said if you're asking me when does the Holy Spirit move here it's just moving right now but you're really asking me when we speak in tongues right she says yes when do we speak in tongues because in some people's minds that's the only gift of the Holy Spirit but that's not what the Bible teaches and even as you heard tonight Pastor Chuck spoke in tongues I speak in tongues my wife speaks in tongues but we do it in the privacy of our prayer clauses we spend time with the Lord he edifies and builds us up as we do that you see the gifts of the Holy Spirit operate but not in the sensational way very often that people want to see he is more subtle and more gentle and very often is doing it in such a way that you might not even notice how God's moving now Calvary chapels have resisted the effort to move in a different path how many of you have ever even heard of the vineyard movement raise your hand see a lot of you haven't well I'll share a couple things with you about that movement because that's what was spoken of back in 92 there was a movement that was the vineyard churches some of you have heard of vineyards how many of you have heard of vineyard churches same people a lot of you are living under a rock no I'm just teasing you just haven't heard of it I'll say it really briefly to you because it was something that was a challenge in Calvary chapels and that's what Chuck was speaking about the vineyard movement originally was pastored by a man named John Wimber John Wimber came out of the Friends Church he used to pass a church in Yorba Linda called the Friends Church and he had an experience with the Holy Spirit and he eventually became aware of the Calvary ministries to the point where he had associated with us and so the vineyard churches vineyard church was actually there were a couple of them ministries that were called vineyards and so at a certain point in the history of the vineyard movement and its Calvary affiliation and association John Wimber began to write books and was teaching a class on signs and wonders at Fuller Seminary and John Wimber started using writing books like one was called Power Evangelism and all and he wanted to do the stuff for him that was a phrase in the vineyard doing the stuff and he wanted to do the stuff meaning he wanted to see miracles and the exercise of the gifts and a variety of ways and all and he became really caught up in the desire for that and eventually what happened is he began to move in a more extreme fashion and I was at the conference that Chuck mentioned today to him as he was speaking and he said I invited people to move on I was at that conference when that took place and Chuck did and Chuck you know we all know those of us who know the ministry of Chuck Smith know that he is a man who is filled with the love of God he was a very loving man to us and all but he also was very direct and he would come to the pastors conferences on occasion and he would say this I still remember it he would say Calvary Chapel that's great there are needs for all kinds of ministries and if you want to and you want to go in another movement and do that please feel free to go and then he would say please don't go away mad just go away Chuck would say that he was pretty direct and he wrote a letter when I was an assisting pastor in Calvary Chapel of Claremont he wrote us a letter and said if you want to change your name please do just have the courtesy to allow us to know that so we can remove you from our list of churches associated with Calvary Chuck was that way he wanted to keep the movement pure and there were influences that were coming in that were trying to move us off track Vineyard being one of them and the church I was an assisting in actually the senior pastor named was Marco Marco retired out of ministry young man named Mark Mark began to move in the direction of the Vineyard so I was in a Calvary Chapel when the transitioning was taking place in that church so I'm a first hand witness as an assistant to what took place and what was happening at that time was an emphasis on gifts began to override the concerned teach and so we would have instead of 40 45 minutes of Bible study we would have 15 minutes of Bible study and instead of 15 minutes of worship we had 45 minutes of worship then we had testimony time and then we had operation of the gifts time and it changed that's one of the facets that went on to my choosing to resign from that ministry and to move into what I do here it was going in a direction that ultimately he turned from Calvary Claremont to Vineyard Claremont and the Vineyard Claremont there is a Vineyard Claremont and you have heard of it that was originally Calvary Chapel of Claremont and it turned to Vineyard Claremont and there is a second Calvary in Claremont that was started once again by the original pastor of the Calvary Chapel of Claremont Marco who has since retired from ministry again and left it in the hands of an assistant but I was there and I remember when Chuck invited people to change their name and I remembered the letter that we got and I remember when Tom Stipes gave a message who became Vineyard Denver and he said I have learned to do things decently in order but I haven't learned to let all things be done and when Chuck got up after he has spoken and said if you want to be a Pentecostal I am not a Pentecostal but if you want to be a Pentecostal change your name because we are not Pentecostals so that's us the gifts of the Holy Spirit the baptism is the second experience we believe the gifts are in operation today but we believe in the balance of Scripture and the Spirit and that's I hope what you see here you see in the 80s John Wimber who was into doing the stuff and all the Vineyard movement produced many worship songs and some of those songs if not many were beautiful but they were experience oriented and we didn't sing it tonight there were songs of how I feel about God and I remember that he started his own movement and Chuck said goodbye and Chuck had said to us if you want to go please do but you need to change your name again what we want is balance we want the word and we want the Spirit we emphasize doctrine and we encourage putting that doctrine into practice by walking in God's power and so finally wrapping this up I want you to see something here in verse 8 and I'll close with verse 8 and touch it a little bit now that promise you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you you shall be witnesses to me in Jerusalem Judea, Samaria the most parts of the earth to the end of the earth I want you to hear this as I close I'm going to give you a real brief touch on baptism the Spirit there are three prepositions that are used for the work of the Holy Spirit the word with the word in and the word upon in John 14 verse 17 Jesus used two of those words he said even the Spirit of Truth whom the world cannot receive because it neither sees him nor knows him you know him for he dwells with you and will be in you those are two those are two prepositions speaking of the with and the inexperience the Holy Spirit is with you in fellowship with him the Holy Spirit is in you upon conversion we become the temple of the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of God dwells in us but there's that third when he says the Holy Spirit is upon you we shall receive power after that the Holy Spirit comes upon you the word upon in the Greek is the word epi and it speaks of the upon experience it speaks of the baptism of the Holy Spirit and that's what happens when you're baptized with the Holy Spirit from on high epi represents the work of the Spirit empowering the believer for service it is the power of the Holy Spirit as it comes upon you and empowered by him that is what you desire it's what I desire he had promised in Acts 1.8 that the Holy Spirit would come upon you and in chapter 2 verse 3 you see the result of the promise the day of Pentecost when it says in verse 3 there appeared to them the 120 divided tongues as on fire and one sat upon each of them the baptism of the Holy Spirit you can have the Holy Spirit in salvation you become the temple of the Spirit of God according to 1 Corinthians 3.16 but I want the upon experience I'm his he's in me but I want his power upon me and that's the baptism and the gift of the Holy Spirit was not just for these who were there that day on the day of Pentecost because according to verses 38 and 39 of chapter 2 it says let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit for the promise is to you to your children and to all who are far off as many as the Lord our God will call this upon experience was not limited to the first generation this upon experience is for all who call upon the name of the Lord through every generation and so in the 21st century you can say God and if you haven't I need your power I have to close but I have one last thing I've been wondering what's wrong with the church because not this church the church us the world okay I've been wondering what's wrong with you guys no it's something that gets hurt feeling no I'm talking about us the body of Christ what is wrong especially in the United States because I could preach a sermon on this I won't I'm just saying a couple of things what is wrong with the church in the United States why why why I saw a picture a writer on Super Bowl Super Bowl of a stadium filled with fans some of you perhaps saw this and they were wearing tarps and there was snow on them in a stadium snow on them and the stadium was full the stadium was full and they're seated there thousands of people 50, 60, 70,000 fans and I see the picture and they're just and they're huddled up and you see this whole stadium in the snow watching a football game and then what they did is they put another picture of a church service next to it that was empty almost empty and they didn't have to say a word we are more as a people committed to our sports than we are to our God so you ask what is wrong it's us we've gotten bored with God or perhaps we may not really know him or we just want to do the minimum that allows us to get into heaven and we have lost the desire to win the lost because I shared with mom she doesn't want to hear so I'll just I wasn't that way with my parents you know I'll be sharing this Sunday I believe it's Sunday he who goes forth weeping bearing precious seed shall doubtless come again rejoicing bringing his sheaves with him psalmist says he who goes forth weeping and I think of it like this guys the church isn't weeping over the lost this issue that we're dealing with right now with all these senators who said no do not save the life of a baby who is being aborted came out alive let it die on the table do you not see that as demonic my my granddaughter is two and a half weeks old or so she'll be three weeks tomorrow she was a month early listen carefully she was a month early a month early she's alive out of the womb and she's not even full term yet and if I walked up to that baby and I pinched her arm what do you think she'd do she'd scream in pain wouldn't she she would scream in pain if I pinched her took a needle took a razor blade and sliced her she would scream in pain but we're saying that that baby could be nine months and someone can stick a needle in the base of her skull and poison her and the pain she would feel is no different than if she was out of the womb and we say that we can slice her in the womb and put her back together again just to make sure we got all the parts this nation is going to be judged by God I am not kidding you where we have God and all of these senators who said don't save the life of that child yes we need a revival we need and we the church needs the power of the spirit of God we need a refreshing in the Lord guys we do what made the Jesus movement real is the power of the Holy Spirit it is what made me the man I am today that spirit who came into me empowered me gave me strength to stand and speak when others wouldn't comes from the power of the Holy Spirit so yes if you have not received the power of the spirit you need to ask your father will give the spirit he says to those who ask him ask in faith doubting nothing say God fill me forgive me for my sins my weakness and my inability to have a spine I need you desperately in this last hour for such a time as this we need the Holy Spirit