 Good morning, everybody. Evening, whatever. Wait, I can barely hear you. Hold on, let me see what's wrong. Hi, Bobby, good evening. It's good evening here, but good morning for you. Yes, Monday morning, yay. Can you hear me now? I can hear you much better, yes. Oh, okay. I thought it was me. I have trouble sometimes with the audios on Zoom, but I figured it out. I was on a presentation on Friday and it was horrible. It was a metaverse presentation and everything the speaker tried to do fell apart. Like he was getting kicked off the Zoom, or the Google Meet call. The demonstration didn't work. I was like, oh, you poor thing. It was awful. It was awful. My pleasure only or like some other meet. It was on like a meetup. So they use that meetup format, which Hyperledger uses as well. So what the meetup is, is let me see if I can get, I'll show you an example while everybody's filtering in. Let me see if I can give you a little lesson on something. Which I'm sure most people already know, but it's interesting when you hear it kind of in a, okay, so let me share my screen. Okay, so what you're seeing is my computer being very slow and loading, but this is a software program called Meetup. Yeah, I am there in this like I'm a member. Yeah, so even the Linux foundation uses Meetup. I use Meetup. I'm a paying customer. So I can get as many groups as I want together. So like Ledger Academy, there's my logo. So I'm signed to, you can use Meetup and set up small meetups complimentary, but it doesn't stay in it, you know, like there's all, it's just for preview kind of purposes. But once you like pay to be a meetup participant, you get certain things that happen. So I'm just gonna show you my groups for a second. So I administer some groups and I'm a member of some groups. So for instance, I do different things. So this group is when I'm actually charging people to come sit in a class. So this is a paid group. So if I do an event for this group, and I'll actually just go in there. It is paid and it is done all through Ledger Academy. So you can see I have 400 members and I do a lot of job related, matching jobs and participants and companies and that kind of stuff with that meetup. And then I have a few others as well. This is a great place to network. It is possibly the best place to network in, you know, LinkedIn's great, you don't really talk to the people, the meetups there aren't really as robust. So what now Hyperledger does is, so I have Hyperledger Princeton blockchain for business. So I can run a meetup here for Princeton anytime I want has to do with something, you know, Hyperledger related. Also, which is the benefit of this meetup is David Boswell from Hyperledger once COVID hit, you know, rationalize that why is this constrained by geographic boundaries? Why don't we try to network all these events? So at the beginning of the week, or you'll notice if you're a member of more than one meetup, you might get double invites to what Hyperledger Foundation puts out as meetups. And they have great meetups. They have a little introduction. So if you don't know where your Hyperledger meetup is for everyone on this call, find the closest or start your own. It's very simple. David will walk you through it. So for instance, this is this afternoon and I will be attending this one. It looks like only two people are going, but that's only two people from this group. This will probably be, you know, over a hundred people on this call because it's one, oh, 248 people on this call because it's a network event. So again, that's very powerful. So that's one of the things I want this group to do. And I also have a one more group. I've never done anything with the Metaverse group but they lost their leader and I just took the group on. But this is the group that started it all and almost has 2000 members and it's blockchain and AI. And this is the one that I want to, well, all three actually, and I want us to set up a network event more towards the end of the summer based on our, you know, like kind of taking the presentation we're gonna do this week and giving it to the public in this network event. So, you know, and documentation out of all the mentorship programs, onboarding and documentation seemed to be the one that people gravitated to because in my personal opinion, a lot of people want to know what Hyperledger is about but they're not coders. So they're afraid to join any group because they're afraid they don't have coding skills with these meetups. You know, you don't need to have coding skills. You're just going as a participant. So it's a great way to get people into the community. Anyway, that's the little lesson. So what the meetup, so we're gonna do the presentation this week. And then from that, each of the committees are going to work on, you know, enhancing that so that it becomes a deliverable instead of a here's what we want to do. And then we're gonna do a network event at the end of the summer where you guys present, you know, what you've done with these different subcommittees for documentation for the community so that anybody like even if, I mean, I think that's gonna be the most powerful one because for people who come to that and want to write a white paper or want to write a case study, again, they're gonna realize they don't need to be coders to do that. They can just come in and, you know, document something or create a user guide or even just read a user guide. So again, I think that that's gonna be very powerful. We are recording this call, so I should get started with at least the anti-trust policy that is displayed on your screen. If everyone can see that, please take a moment to read it over. If you need more information, there's a link to the code of conduct. Disappoints. And I'm gonna turn again, the meeting over to Runima. All we're really doing today is just introducing people on the call and, you know, however you feel, Runima, you need to practice for Thursday. That's great. Again, the onboarding people who are on the call, I got this email from David. Yeah. Go ahead. John had shared this thing as well that David asked, like, if we need any help. So I had sent a follow-up mail and I think you are also in season. Yes, okay, I'll have to chat. I haven't really reached out for my email yet this morning. I was traveling all weekend, so I just got back. Yeah, so following on this message where David, I had made about all the things that we need and, you know, everything that I would require, since we, like, John has not joined the call now, but we have another call every week, which is on Fairness Day, because, you know, we have to work a lot on onboarding. So he has scheduled, so there we discussed about this thing and I had mailed, but right now I didn't receive any mail back from David or Ben. Okay, yeah, I think that's gonna be your biggest hurdle for onboarding is getting cooperation. So I would just, in my opinion, focus on those landing points that you have complete control over. Yeah, as you said in last meet, I discussed with John regarding this, that, you know, Ben is not, we don't have instant communication with Ben. So the things we discussed, a lot of things, and we'll, like this week, we'll be working on the design changes, since you had shared that canvalling based on that, we can match the team and we'll be working on the design team now with the team. Yeah, and I wouldn't be afraid, again, the way Hyperledger works, everybody's kind of really laid back in their chores here because it is a foundation and it's a slower beat with a foundation than if it was just an enterprise where everybody was getting paid. So it's definitely a different pace than usually in business. And I think that it would benefit you if you, your team went ahead and like almost gave Ben wireframes for the onboarding button on the website, you know, like say, oh, Ben, we want a button for onboarding and we want it to look like this because I think that that's what the user guide people are gonna do in this group for when you go to the website and you hit that library button. I mean, we need to figure out how that looks from a documentation point of view and then bring it to the you guys on onboarding and saying, you know, when you hit that button library here's what it should look like, that kind of thing. So I would not be afraid to, again, do the design work and send it to Ben and say, this would be great if the website looked like this or this would be great if the start here looked like this or whoever is in control of each of those. Anyway, I'm sorry, I'm babbling again. No, no, no, yeah. I actually took up your, you know, whatever you said that this should be some wire frames for the users, right? You mentioned that. Yeah, like I say, this is the way the website looks like now and here is the start here button. Here's what the onboarding group suggests happens once you click that button. And I am sure he will take it under consideration because again, that's the beat of how a foundation works. They wait for suggestions like that. Yeah, it's the same, just like you, John also recommended some design changes. So he said that we can make, you know, a navigation based on user personas or the start here page. So that's what right now, you know, there are some members also who are an onboarding team on the call right now. So today I'll be introducing them to all the things that I had discussed and this week we'll be working on that design part that you're talking about. Perfect, beautiful. And again, I'm going to, so I've introduced myself, let me start editing this page here and I will turn the meeting over to Arunama to go through the list of introductions and then I guess just go over the presentation. So it's all you, Arunama. Yeah, sure. So coming to the introductions, let's start with the Kangshaw. So Kangshaw, you can go ahead and introduce yourself. Yeah, sure. So hello everyone, myself a Kangshaw and I am LFX mentee for Hyperlegion onboarding mentor-mentary project and I'm also contributing to Hyperlegion documentation project. These two projects are focused on this call and I have been part of Hyperlegion community since past two months now, since May, three months I would say, since July also counted and I had worked with Bobby and John. These are our mentors and I would love to work with you all and for the upcoming months and contribute to my best. Yeah. That's great, Kangshaw. Thank you so much. Next we have Anasua in this call. So Anasua, I think I'm seeing you for the first time. So you can go ahead and introduce yourself. Hi everyone, good evening. Actually I wasn't attending the task force meetings in between. Hi, Bobby. Like, actually I was attending the before this mentor-mentary program kickstarted before that I was attending these calls and I'm the founder and director of Bini World Innovations Private Limited and one of our project like Bini BFT, it is being selected as a CLP project. So I'm a mentor over there. So when I saw that I got a mail regarding this because in between for two weeks when I tried to join the meeting, I think the meeting timings has been shifted. So Mondays I couldn't join the meeting. So when I got the invitation, I thought, okay, I will start back again and I'm not a mentee, I'm a mentor. That's great and also thank you so much for attending the call. Yeah, thank you. Welcome. So next we have Ashwin. Ashwin, you can go. Hello, yeah. Myself, I couldn't attend any of the meetings because of some college work and all. I have attended one of the meetings and I am in a financial team. I'm a contributor here and we are looking forward to working with you all. Thank you. That's great Ashwin. Thank you for attending the call. Next we have Balbir Singh. So Balbir, you can go ahead and introduce yourself. Hello, everyone. Myself Balbir Singh Rao. Akansha, I have applied for LFX mentee but I was not selected and later Akansha reached us out and introduced us about the cohort. So I joined that group and in that group today Akansha posted that we have a meeting. So I joined. As agreed Balbir, I thank you for introducing yourself and yeah, you will surely find out some way in which you can contribute to the projects because we really need some folks who can help us improve the documentations and everything. So thanks a lot for joining. Yeah, looking forward to contributing. Yeah, so next we have Kajal Kumari. Kajal, you can go ahead and introduce yourself. Hello, everyone. I'm Kajal and I'm the committee chair member of the templates. So like recently I was identifying the projects which need our documentation needs. So I talked to the caliper maintainer. Bobby, could you please switch to my mentorship page where we have the right time? Of course, just give me one second. Yeah, it's right below. I had a conversation with them on this call like what we can do for Caliper. So he mentioned some points related to that. I have mentioned that. I'm going to scroll please. Yeah, these are the three he said like what Caliper need right now. That's a really good point you made there. I never really thought about versioning and documentation. It is tedious how to maintain the documentation through version controls as well. So thank you for pointing that out. Like I was going through the documentation thing and it is quite good. But I didn't understand the last point. Like they want to export this like a PDF. So like how can we do that? Like the dogs have. So if I'm understanding, you're asking if there is a feature in like the make the docs or read the docs that you can convert that to a PDF. Yes. Yes. That's a great question. I have no idea that the answer to that is. But I will find that out. That's a really good question. So almost you can template the PDF and almost make it like it's an instant manuscript. Yes. I can do that like on you. Yes. Oh, great. Thank you. I'll do more or more results on this. And also like I talked to the bevel mentee. He is doing right and right now he doesn't need any help from our side. So this is all about me. That's a lot of cattle for doing so much research and giving us those insights. For next we have three books. So three of you can go ahead and introduce yourself. Hi, everyone. My name is Sripu and I'm working on Solang and I'm creating like creating there like not creating but yeah, making some changes into their user document existing one and also side by side also creating a like standard user guide or changer so that if they want to use it, they can in the app it is a community. So Bobby, if you can shift to my page. I'm trying. No issues. So I initially like in the like on the top all already that user documentation improvement that is needed for Solang and that we need to make some changes to the introduction as it is very basic and the users who will be stumbling on the page will not be able to understand at all. If they are beginners and they don't know anything about the technology or coding itself. So yeah, it will be very difficult for them what the product do and what they are trying to say and they are when I was going through the guide, the user guide I noticed that they are not many visuals that can help the reader to understand what the code will look like if they run it and what will happen, what's the flow chart like of the system that they are like building their stuff on and all that stuff. So I've suggested three free options so that we can build some like dry grounds or anything that flow charts and like what step comes after what step and make it more interactive. And now I'm going into like section wise improvement. So I have yet done only one which is installing Solang and my remark was on it like they are very good but at the same time they are very difficult to understand as I was installing it like on my computer I was not able to because it was like as a user and a person who is not much into coding or who knows everything about coding will can understand that but the person who is who don't know anything about coding will not be able to do that. So my improvement was like we can make it simple and add specific screenshot of the devices like if they have like Mac what the output will look like and if we are on the Linux what it will look like and the language we are using it's kind of very technical and I wanted to make suggestion that we can make it simpler so I will like go into the meeting next time and suggest all these things with the Solang community and we will discuss how we will move forward at the same time I'm also making the standard guide which I'm making it on my Git book I'm creating a Git book so if I can share my screen will that be okay Bobby? Yeah, so- Of course. I'm a- By the way I'm clapping great job I was sitting here saying while you were doing that oh please be making a template for everyone else to follow what you're doing and boom here it is so thank you. Yeah I might have made the very initial state so yeah the how I will proceed is this first of all the page this is just introduction what is user documentation if someone is new to technical writing and they don't know what is it I will add more it's just a simple I have added just simple definition nothing more nothing less like it is a user guide for customer helping them navigate the product properly while assisting them with any difficulty that arise. So will that with that keeping in mind the person should write their user document or make changes to it and then I will write the steps like first you have to download your product and use it and then you start writing it start testing the product that what is happening how do we proceed and like I will add more steps I'm at the initial stage then I will do specific sections like after first step will be like writing about introduction then writing about setup and more so I'm doing that right now it's not completed and then I will add more things and I will share the link with all of you so that you can also make changes like suggest changes and we can make it more like helpful to the community as we can together so yeah that's what I am doing right now and this is my progress that's amazing three four truly great work I do have some doubts yeah sure Arunima what about the like I didn't get any announcement on the cheer thing if we have done it I have missed it so regarding cheer thing of what can you please tell me like Bobby mentioned earlier that we will be making chairs for the user template and then like at the specific user documentation and all that stuff so we didn't discuss anything about that okay so I think let me see so you are for okay let me just go ahead and see it so since you are doing the presentation for GitHub read the talk so you can be the chair of that group right I think that's not a group that's that was the comment that Bobby wrote at that time there are only five groups in that that is templates and onboarding user guide best practices but there's two different sections to get the GitHub documentation when you approach it from a community perspective the first one is when I am a project maintainer and I'm going into the labs and I'm creating my first GitHub repository if there's a template for that what needs to be there but there's not a template for what the next step is like when you're in labs and you want to take your lab project and make it an incubated project in the community or an incubated project to a graduated project so those templates don't exist so that's the first GitHub templates the other section of the GitHub is about taking that material that the maintainers already created and making it into readable user guides and Hyperledger offers some tooling practices they have I think they use make the docs or read the docs I'm not sure what David suggests but that's what this task force that section of this task course is going to research is what does Hyperledger offer we already know what each one uses we have a graph in this documentation task force documentation somewhere of what everyone in the community is using right now and as a documentation task force deliverable we are going to give them suggestions on how to take what the maintainers created and make user docs and even adding that PDF suggestion is like a great idea for that section so there's two different GitHub and we have you down for once the GitHub repositories are completed what read the doc make the docs do you use to suggest the community uses so that the end user documentation is Hyperledger look and feel if that makes sense and if you still want to be a chair on that that you know discuss that with Arunama but that was the point of having that broken out to two different tasks okay okay I got it thank you Bobby and I do have one more question like in the early meetings you also mentioned that if we are working on the project and we will get some college credits that we can show and all that type of stuff so was it related to this project or were you talking about some other one there are no college credits given out from Hyperledger community in any way shape or form what it was was there is and I'm working with men on that there is a learning and I'm not sure maybe Arunama has more information but it's a learning center and this project is going to be in there so that you would get like a badge from Hyperledger saying that you completed and were a part of this mentor learning ship program the only difference is it wouldn't be compensated but you would get the same credit for your resume LinkedIn for your networking you know you'll be able to go and speak about this you'll be able to become a speaker because you've had this interaction with the Hyperledger community okay okay yeah got it thank you okay so regarding that part even I don't have much idea about the learning program but what I can do is that I can share Min's email idea with you and you can send a mail to her asking about it I think she will be the correct person to provide the correct guidance to you regarding this about you know I've already talked to Min so all I'm waiting for is her to set us up as a project and then I'll send everyone in this call a link so that if they want to enroll which everyone should you're doing the work for it enroll just can enroll in that learning section oh that's great yeah we're working on it we just need to get it we need to get it so you guys can enroll yeah I just wanted to add on that so since there were certain people who wanted to you know take part in the Hyperledger project so I also searched up and saw that collaborative learning program that was there but I think so the deadline was 25th June for that since I was checking out for our projects for documentation and onboarding and those were not part of collaborative program so their deadline had crossed like it was 25th June but I'm not sure if that's the same thing you talked Min about or it's it is it is and we're gonna get in there we're gonna get past we're gonna slide in past the date okay okay so yeah so it would be just documentation or we can get the onboarding project as well in there I can hopefully get both I'll be reaching out to her again today so let me find out and then by next week we'll definitely have that set up yeah thank you so much since you know since to if they these all are contributing so they're definitely it will help them to not only grow their network but also showcase it then the resume exactly Bobby I have a question go ahead GitHub templates and only templates they are different I like I have a confusion okay so now the templates the templates that that this refers to let me see if I can find them quick enough has to do more with I'm gonna be guessing the the onboarding button libraries and the templates have to do more with this information so if I want to write a white paper we have this little white paper standards it was done four years ago it probably needs to be done more user friendly because if I was someone trying to white or white paper and I saw this I'm not sure if I would know how to use it I'm not sure if this is a good format anymore for white papers so that's what the that section of the template is doing it's going over all of these and I'll drop this link in the chat if I can get it hold on copy so now the learning materials working group has been archived so it really isn't something that people can access anymore so David has asked us to take what we think of these templates and make it into like almost like a button on that library so that when someone in the community needs to create something they can go to these templates and say oh I'm creating and even that GitHub template will be in here it will be a part of the overall but that one you won't have to create from scratch none of them you really have to create from scratch you just have to look at them all and redo them to make them current so again there's here's another one use case standard so if you want to and I encourage this one everyone who who is implementing a use case should use this format but again this is not user-friendly this is crazy if you ask me I would know how to do a use case from this so I hope that answered your question there are any like examples where people have used these templates like yes yes there the labs templates I'm not sure if that was your question but what do the labs uses templates let's see oh I think I just I never find what I need when I look this way but no it's not here there's a section in the GitHub for for the blank lab repository it is listed on our page somewhere let me just see if I can find it but yeah that should be one of the templates in our list as well I think it's under the section for GitHub let me just a minute how to make a commit and again like not to jump topic I can't locate that but I will definitely try to find it for the end of the meeting like I'm looking for that now that's the whole point of this is so that people don't have to search for things anymore and so that they're easy to grab and find but it is in here I hope that answered your question okay okay I would I would besides thank you okay so we had Victoria in the call but she had to drop off because she maybe she had some work so I will connect with her later and just to confirm Bobby we will have the presentation on 13th right on Thursday yes that's correct okay so if you want for the rest of the meeting just go over the presentation it's all up to you now yeah yeah sure so I'll stop sharing and you can finish out the meeting thank you everybody yeah Bobby just a second I'm sorry for interrupting I just wanted to ask one thing from you I had mailed Ben regarding this so any update or anything so that I can connect with Ben or David on a call because we really need their opinions for there are three different things that we discussed me and John discussed that was first like analyzing the traffic flow the high traffic pages like analyzing the high traffic pages so that we can implement it into the onboarding project and work on that so all these things we just can't discuss like that so is there any way or any meeting that we can join to connect with them send me the link and I'll be there yeah okay but like Ben and David since they haven't responded yet when is your onboarding call if we have it we have it on Wednesdays like it will be on Wednesday the timings would be 9 30 to 10 30 Indian standard time which would be I guess 12 p.m according to you 12 p.m I'm unfortunately this Wednesday I'm speaking to the Penn State Alumni Association so I'll be in Philadelphia giving a presentation but any other day this week how about if you can throw it out there at your meeting yeah I can do right after the TOC presentation so that would be Thursday at 11 okay cool or before if it's easier for you guys oh well they're in Colorado and David's in California so he's not getting up at five exactly no exactly no he actually wrote in the mail that he that John forwarded that whatever time that you know he'll try to reschedule so I said I deployed him that whatever is his you know convenience according to his convenience he can tell tell the slots so I'm not sure when he will reply back but I really need to connect with Ben and David regarding the onboarding project and it would be really good if he'll be also there with John yeah but I again I I don't envy you having to coordinate with the website people and and because again they move very slowly but I would keep going on what you envision and then work with them to plug it in okay okay thank you Bobby and surely I'll tell you the I'll meet you the time and then everything that I'll reschedule the meeting yes and I will see you at the TLC presentation surely okay so before I get started with the presentation just let me tell you all something if any of you have exams or you think that you know if you need help from me regarding any help or any assistance from me regarding any of the tasks and feel free to let me know on either on LinkedIn or through a mail I will be more than happy to help you out with the tasks so I just wanted to let all of you know that now coming to the presentation let me start sharing my screen okay so so let's start with the presentation so we are starting with the plus slide okay so hello everyone my name is Arunima Chaudhary and I'm the committee chair of the documentation task force and also LFXMNT under this project first of all I want to express my gratitude to Bobby for interesting me with this role and I'm truly excited about the work that we all will be doing together as a team so clear and comprehensive documentation is essential for any successful project it not only helps the developers understand and contribute to the projects but also facilitates the adoption and success of our projects in the wider community to ensure that our Hyperledger projects also have the best possible documentation we have six subcommittees that will be working under the documentation standards task force and each group will provide assistance to the projects in a specific area so the six subcommittees are github templates github read the talks templates best practices on boarding and user crides also all the subgroups will work collaboratively to address the documentation gaps and assist the project mentees some of the shared objectives of the documentation task force includes to enhance the overall quality and consistency of the documentation across all the projects to provide and guide to provide support and guidance to the project teams in utilizing the available resources effectively streamline the documentation process for better efficiency and productivity and also to empower the users through user friendly and comprehensive documentation so I look forward to working closely with all of you in the coming months in shaping refining and standardizing the documentation process within the Hyperledger and now I would like to introduce the chairs of each of the subgroups who will be contributing to the documentation task force in the upcoming months starting with the github templates group are you there on the call okay so we currently don't have channel looker in the call so moving on to the next slide github read the talks three put you can go ahead and give us a brief idea of the subgroup and what are the work you have been doing since the last few months hi everyone my name is Tripur Joshi and I am a technical writer and researcher and I will be contributing to the user guide and like making a standard user documentation guideline for everyone who wants to update their existing user guides and I'm also working on Solang and that is the first project we are working on and then after that we will move towards other projects so that they can also get help from us and as much as we can improve their user guides and the experiences of the users and at the same time how we are like aiming to support the community is making that standard template for everyone to use and so that they don't have to go around and take any like read other documents to know how to update their user guides and that's all we are doing and we hope that it will be more useful for everyone and we can all contribute to it yeah thank you so much Tripur for introducing the github read the talks to all of us so next next we have the templates and Kajal will let us know give us a brief idea of what the templates group is doing and also what she has been doing for the past few months Kajal you can go ahead hello everyone I'm Kajal Kumari and I'm a final year student so I am an Android developer and a technical writer I have contributed in various open source programs in development and documentation and I have also done a UI UX design so like I have talked to some of the projects of hyper ledger where we can serve them as a documentation where they need any documentation help so I have talked to the caliper and a beaver maintainers but I have also identified a keptire and an encrypt where they need a documentation help so I would be like helping them in that and talking about my project in documentation task force so I'm the chair member of templates we will be providing suitable template for all the needs like for the graphics or for like github or any need documentation needed so like the templates will be standard and consist the approach to documentation across various hyper ledger projects at the various stage of the project life cycle and like we know that all the need of all the projects it will be unique unique and specified so the template will be unique and specified like we have a white paper template we have graphic or template and we have a user a case study templates so we will be developing a customized template for every group and by offering these well-designed templates we strive to streamline the documentation process and enable project team to focus more on building ensuring vital information that is documented effectively and this thing will smooth the onboarding process for the newbie or those people who are not in tech so thank you thank you so much kajal for giving us a brief idea of what the template group is all about and how it will assist the mentees in the upcoming months next we have the best practices group which is led by victoria currently we don't have her in the call she joined the call but she left it was some reasons but yeah so she will be introducing the best practices group our next we have the onboarding group which is led by akanksha rani so akanksha you can go ahead and give us a brief idea of what the onboarding group is all about sure so hello everyone myself akanksha and i am a lfx20 for hyper ledger onboarding project also and i'm also contributing here as chair of the onboarding team as a technical student i am an eiml and the enthusiast and developer and also an open source contributor and talking about onboarding so onboarding is basically a project which is which focuses on six seven different aspects as which i have you know concise into and first first is it focuses on research and analysis for all the you know for all the ways in which the user engages on the hyper ledger platform then we have to plan and scope that how and how the process from the user to the hyper ledger site so we basically ease the distance and the bridge the gap that is there between the users or the people who approach or check out the hyper ledger site so we work on that next we work on design and development which is basically the web web page interface and the website remodulation then talking about the fourth thing we work on the testing and feedback so once we you know we make a design or by a same ready we asked to we ask the mentors for the feedback and we work on that then talking about collaboration and communication so since i am an elix i have i am a lfx20 so i have also a team under me in which there are different people who are collaborating with me and helping me with the project and they'll be helping me in the coming weeks also so it's about that also and lastly it's basically we work on the refinement of the hyper ledger community and the website so that's how the onboarding works off thank you so much akanksha for giving us a detailed idea of what the onboarding group is all about and how it will assist the hyper ledger projects in the various documentation needs so next we have the user guides group which is led by agnes agnes are you there on the call okay sure so she is currently not here in the call but she will be giving us a brief idea of the user guides group and this is the last site so this was the presentation all about so in this meet we couldn't have jan luka victoria and agnes i will be talking with each of them over linkedin and i ensure that you know they are present in the Thursday meet so that was all about the presentation bobby do you have anything to say or any modifications i have yes two suggestions first suggestion is at an ending slide that just says questions or thank you and questions and when you're finished it's it's a nice for presentation it's a nice way to flow to the end to show that sops that last slide so everybody knows like it's done and question you know like it's a it's a nice ending and just the second suggestion is to everyone on the call the maintainers at the toc are very allergic to people asking them to do work so it has to be their idea so just be very careful when we're talking about templates and new suggestions that you're not in any way suggesting that they go back and fix documentation our suggestions are just moving forward so just always make sure they know that our suggestions are for their future work that we want no one to go back and correct anything this is just suggestions moving forward because they get like really like that would be the only thing they'll get out of the presentation is you're asking me to do something so just just be mindful of how you word our suggestions to them that you're not asking them to go back and fix you're looking forward to when they're doing new stuff other than that it was fabulous fabulous presentation i applaud and again if anyone doesn't show up um and anyone on the call wants to sub for them that's great or you can throw me in arunama anywhere if there's no one there and a slide is blank i will step in or you can step in doesn't matter if the people don't or do or do not show up we can you know just work through that but everything looked great i can't wait okay that's great so uh the main thing is that we should make keep in mind that you know we are giving suggestions for future work something that we can build on not that asking them to go ahead and make the changes right something yeah they don't want to do work they want to just have like if they're they want this task force to support what they're doing moving forward they don't want to feel punitive in that they have to go back and fix so everything is perfect the way it is but going forward here you go okay i suggested politely i got it but they all like when we did the survey every maintainer wants suggestions moving forward but nobody wants to go back and fix their work that's it and that they'll it's going to be well received uh the toc has cancelled two meetings in a row so we haven't met like three weeks so this will be a nice nice way to get back into the flow um after summer break so i'm very excited and i hope everyone if you're not presenting comes on the call for support and it'll be great okay thank you so much bobby i got it and i will just look into the wordings of each of the slides and make sure that everything is polite and and i don't know the wording was fine i think it just at one point somebody said uh the word fix when they were talking and i'm like oh no no no no no fix moving forward no fix oh okay i got it okay and and again it's just a verbiage and i think everybody here understands like you know it's just you're very particular about when you assign them jobs they're like okay i got it thank you so much bobby for the suggestions and oh thank you for all this work you've done a great job and i look forward to seeing you present on thursday yeah sure all right i will see you thursday have a great day evening have a great sleep uh thank you bobby and also i just wanted to talk to the onboarding people since some of them are here so can i just take up after you know yeah i'm just leaving now you can take the call for as long as you want yeah as long as you want yeah yeah sure i can't wait and go ahead and i don't mind if you have anything else you can discuss with the people from documentation then after that i can talk uh no nothing more to discuss we will have the presentation on thursday and y'all did a great job uh like talking about each of the subjects so nothing more to say all the best for the presentation on thursday and account for the call is yours and go ahead and have a discussion thank you sure sure thank you arunama um hello everyone uh am i audible enough uh i think so but veer ashwin shubham and kajal had uh filled up for the onboarding part if i'm not wrong all of you are here on call can you just just give me a heads up yeah we are there so that we can i can watch yeah okay shubham are you there yeah cool so yeah firstly since we didn't have any meet till now so i just wanted to ask that uh all four of you you all are interested in contributing and also since kajal is already contributing to documentation will it be okay with you firstly i wanted to ask yeah cool so uh i had discussed with the john regarding the project since uh i have not invited you to the meeting call because it would be a bit difficult for you to understand since you weren't there from scratch so soon you'll be joining the call with john as well so i'll just share my screen and share some few things that will would be that would be it easier for you to understand the flow of onboarding just give me a second i'm just sharing my screen okay so is my skin visible guys yeah okay so this is different aspects to onboarding and talking about the things that i will be working on right now would be three of them which i had discussed with ben and the last meet first you know first would be the analyzing the traffic flow so what exactly it is that there are certain pages first and third are very integrated there are certain pages on hyper ledger where the engagement is more like for example if someone is working on bevels bevel page bevel is a project so we know that people go to that page a lot and there is a they approach more to those pages so we'll be focusing on that with that aspect and you we won't be working on it right now because we need to talk to ben regarding it so the main thing we'll be working on is the second point if you guys can see the design changes so i guess some of you had raised your hands for working on figma earlier who was there are both of you there on call i was okay and there was one more person who has told that they have worked on figma and designed before so anyhow so what exactly if you haven't worked on it so i'll recommend that you should you know start exporting figma if anyone of you has never worked it's a very amazing place for making bioframed all designs basically for the never we make a site so pigma is basically to make layout for how exactly the website look like if anyone of you is not aware of what exactly figma is so this is what we have to do is as just a second i'll just open up a link it would be easier for you to understand so the hyper ledger website it is already there but we basically have to ease the access of people so that people can just click it over and go to the page that they are looking for they don't need to go we have to make it easier to understand that you know the site is very user friendly we have to make that so the right now if you can see the hyper ledger website just a second i'll just show you i have received a design template by bobby if you can see the documentation task force so this is the canva design shared by ben so keeping this theme in reference we have to make different designs based on personas so what are these personas i'll just tell you over so this is the new hyper ledger icon and hyper ledger this this is the initial theme of our website if you guys can see we have to work along with this and make a start here user guide what exactly is start here user guide is whenever a person goes to the hyper ledger site i'll just open the hyper ledger site and make it easier for you to understand yeah this this is the site right now okay so if you can see this is a very basic minimal site so we basically have to like if someone has to you know need we if you open it for the first time you won't understand what exactly it is this isn't how to get started so what are the changes that we can see that you couldn't we can have a start here button here or something like that so i just want the views from you all and you know if you guys can work up on a design that you feel that would be better for understanding how exactly we can put up different changes so it is easier for the users to engage with so there are different personas i'll open up that so that it is easier for you to understand which personas we need to work on just a second task i'll take up doubts after this i know it's a bit difficult to understand it first but i'm just you know just saying everything for once so that there is a proper flow at least you can understand the flow that what exactly we are working on in onboarding just a second where is that this is the github repo basically for start here guide so if you guys of course i guess you have been open source contributor that's why you are interested in here or even a beginner can you know i contribute so this is the basic start here page of hyper ledger where we will be working on the website just introducing everything to you and don't worry about the links i can share that over to you after words also this is the hyper ledger site i don't want this just a second i'll explain the personas and even share the link for you so that if you guys are interested and start on making some you just have to make a you have to take reference and make a navigation a navigation page where it is easier for the personas to go over and just be there on the right page with a single so what exactly was the page name onboarding i guess yeah firstly i'll just give you the project plan and i'll also share the link with you here on the chat and also i'll share it on the group as well the watcher group so this is the this is the project plan of how i'll be working on for the next few months so firstly this is an initial one we'll be you know changing it according to what exactly we'll be needing so this is the project plan that i had made and so sorry that i couldn't be much active because i was busy making this and discussing with john so firstly we will have to the the 12th june to 16 june sales has been over and you guys have joined me in the next week of our project which is basically we'll be working on the user experience the you and ux and the you know the start start here page this is what we'll be working on this week after this week we'll be starting with the dashboard thing the main uh we have to we'll be working on the user engagement parts but this week we have to make a certain uh a figma basically in simple language we basically have to take reference from the earlier i'll also share you the earlier designs i have a figma link of what my mentor right now our mentor who is niku who he has already made and i am not able to find that link i've asked for it so you will get an initial design of that that he had made at last year so it would it would help you to understand but you don't have to make the same as him because there are new defi new the website designs that i had shared you the canvaling i just showed it to you and i'll be sharing all those links with you with reference to those links with reference to what niku had worked earlier you have to basically give me different like each one of you even if you develop a page just one figma page and give me a design then i'll just see over that what fits best then i will be working on that properly so i just need suggestions from each one of you with a design that you can work on in next two to three days if possible before venice day because in one venice day i can you know get it reviewed from the mentors that you guys have given different views and the one that fits best we can work on that for this week so if possible just you guys can start working on it from after the call and for i'll like tomorrow or day after tomorrow just share the design with me that you think fits well and so yeah so sorry just getting over to this project plan so the third thing that we will be working on from july 11 to 24 that would be our dashboard and landing page of hyperlegion so regarding it will regarding this will be discussed more because right now we are focused on starting here guide the navigation page after this the afterwards week we have this webpage enhancement implement and then we'll be working on some search for functionalities and i know it's a bit you know out of blue that what exactly it is to understand but as we go on because i don't want to put everything at once that if you have to do this this with weeks because we have a lot of time that's not like we have to submit something tomorrow so like right now since i just introduced you the start here page the navigation page that is the only work that we have to work on this week we have to if you guys have worked on figma it would be a bit easy for you to understand and you can just give one or two hours and just create a design so it's not a big deal but once the one who have not worked on figma yet so it would also help you to learn about web development since if for a web developer it's very useful to make a figma design earlier so if you guys want to start with web development who has not you know had experience with react.js or html css or these languages they can start over by learning a bit and even i can help you with that if you need any help you can pick me over anytime so that is what we'll be working on till august the webpage after that we'll be working on the user engagement more and we have to create a SEO friendly framework so what exactly is SEO friendly framework it's basically inspired from google analytics i know you guys have not must have not heard of it and even if you have so google analytics is a platform where we manage a website or everything so john has told me all this so that's where i learned it from and i'm sharing with you all for your knowledge as well so we'll be working on hyper ledgers SEO friendly framework after in august there will be incorporating multiple banners and you know hyper ledger we'll be improving the hyper ledger calendar because i know many of you even didn't have links like for example i had shared links with you all that we have to attend the meet but if you go to hyper ledger it's very difficult for the users to find the meeting links so that is what we'll be working on then we'll be working on hyper ledger blogs and even then after that blogs is a very you know it's easy to understand we just have to create different links that people can click over and read the blogs on the trending topics by hyper ledger even or in any technology so that's what we do from august and september then in september basically we'll work on on our library we basically have to create how we like for example you visit some website for example some food health website so there there are you know chances that you'll get a section of recommended videos that you should watch so that's what we'll be doing in hyper ledger so that it's it's very attractive and user find it very useful who come over the hyper ledger site and who who just have to click over and learn about hyper ledger how will we get started because as you all some of you are already introduced to hyper ledger but those of you who haven't you know went to the website there it's not very easy to understand how to get the tutorials one but there are there are already a lot of videos which users are not aware of so that's what we'll be working on creating a youtube library of hyper ledger on the website then after that we'll be working from september to october there will be there are different sigs and working groups so that would be a bit easier work because as time you'll understand the workflow right now i am not even i myself i'm not very you know good with understanding things that i have to do later on but right now what i can understand is uh with flow with uh with the time we will understand the workflow better i'll also learn along with you only so that's what we'll be doing in september and october then after that october like the work would be you know there is there is not much load of work you on you also you just have to give you like one or two hours of in two days basically because we have weekly meetings so we almost have a week for working on so after that we'll be working on the deliverables basically and then there's a presentation that which in which i would love to have you all you know since if you guys contribute for the next few months it would be really great that you can give because this presentation is happens in the global forum of hyper legend so if you guys really work well and you know contribute to the project then you with john our mentor you all can you know help me out and you can present in front with along with me like whatever whatever work that we have to do on so this is a small gist of what exactly our project task is for next few months uh and i hope i am a bit clear but right now i would love to take some doubts from you all because i know i have said a lot so guys yeah just tell me like whatever is in your mind after whatever i have explained akansha i have like doubt yeah you said like she will be working we have four personas we will be working on each persona individually so uh yeah will you merge the uh designs for like what because we have one website only and we have to take care that for each of these personas so like i like i'll explain i'll explain so i talked about different personas so i just can you just give me a second i'll open up something that would be easier for you to understand i'll just open up something regarding the personas thing just a second until then anyone else has any question or can just you know ask me over i'll try if i can answer so on figma do we need to create the design of whole website or just the navigation bar in the hero section okay so i'll share a design with you and the earlier design so it would be easier for you to you know just you can make it you know there is a you can make a whole web page you don't have to make basically you can just take the reference from what ben had created i had showed you the canvaling right so it is easier to understand what exactly the theme is the color is you can use the color palette if you have to use the figma you know you must be knowing there's a color palette and we can take so you can take the reference from there so it would be easier for you to for making the web page so you just have to basically take the colors and take the design that ben had created and make the navigation changes on that so you will be focusing on the navigation part only on different based on different personas but you can take reference from the earlier designs okay okay just give me a second anyone else has any more questions and even if you don't understand anything like what exactly is going on you can just talk to me casually i'm not you know someone that you have to take care while talking because i know balveer and kajal had already been part but ashrin and shubham has joined later on so you guys you know you can talk about it if anything else is on the on your mind you can talk about it hello is this going to be a separate project or we're going to make changes in existing hyper data website means we are going to make it from scratch or yeah so we don't have to make everything from scratch of course because we have the site already if you search of hyper letter you can see the site we basically have to contribute to that only we don't have to create something out of scratch what we have to create is we have to create a design that you know that would be implemented in the main site so everything is there i showed you the github link right so that github link is basically the link for that web page that website of hyper ledger so whatever changes we are doing right now would be implemented on the existing site so nothing had to make it had to be made from the scratch am i clear am i clear right shubham i cleared a question yes i have doubt what is that github repo for which one uh gate start here i think so we have the start here page i'll just show you just a second i'm not able to find certain things and i'll show you so the start here page the it is basically the the github link for the start here guide page there's a page which is not developed properly and will be working on that also so it basically involves the things you know that if someone enters like just excesses the hyper ledger site so there is no start here guide so we have to contribute to that because last year the onboarding project was there i was but with different name so they created the initial designs on figma i guess because that's what my mentor did but they did not uh actually you know implemented in the main site so we have to implement the start here guide in the main site that is our work okay i guess i found something yeah sorry continue repo is the code of the hyper ledger website uh just a second i'm not sure about that but what i know is yeah it's hyper ledger website i guess the tooling one is just focused on different you know uh aspects of the web page but for the whole site uh i can just share you the link of that also just give me a second tooling one focuses on the hyper ledger onboarding part the project we will be working on just give me a second uh yeah i found that page is very so yeah this is the repo that we'll be working on and will be contributing the for the website part but right now we won't be working on that because we have to first make a design first right if you guys are web developers then you will know that we have to create a design first for anything so this week we have to create that and i'm just i'll just share my screen as well so this these are the different personas uh kajal had asked that out about just give me a second it's opening up see kajal so these are the different personas sig cheers community contributors maintain us to you see members new core contributors solution providers right so one two three four five how okay six of them are so what exactly we have to do is we go on this hyper ledger site and these are six personas right so we have to create a design basically so that you know i come to the site do you see any option for these people come the contributors or sig cheers or what were the personas uh just a second uh exactly it's happening i'm not able to click over there so what exactly i was talking about is uh this is the initial site of hyper ledger so we don't see any option for a person you know who just enters we don't know who he's a contributor or he's a s he's an he's a sig chair or he's um what are the six personas i'm myself you know yeah so yeah so these are the six personas right so um the person doesn't know we or sorry the site we the site uh handlers don't know who is approaching the site so for example a person is a to see member it is same for him it is same for the new core contributors it's same for maintenance and it is very difficult to get over a guide you know so we basically have to include all these six people into the navigation bar or or or i would like to love you know i would love to get some inputs from you like what do you think like if there are six members six different personas and any one of them enters the site so how can we improve the accessibility that he is not confused that like if you see the site right now you won't be able to get exactly like how exactly we'll understand that what is for what like we don't we will be confused so what do you think that uh because john had and john and i had discussed uh that navigation bar would be the best option so that's what i told you guys that we have a section for that and for different personas we can just create like these six personas and that will take them to a page where they there's a guide for them they will understand the project so do you think the navigation one is a good idea or do you guys have any other opinion from your side that we have a different button here in somewhere in the site what do you guys think uh are we going to make the changes at the home page like yeah we can we can ask for like what are they like are they you see number or what then we can navigate because i think uh when we'll be adding more six options in the home page then are we going to remove this learn which participate even like what no no uh yeah so just a second uh just like for example we have this participation uh this uh column right so we have collaboration to we'll contribute to coding but uh there is no option that you know uh for a person for for the personas it's it's a general thing join the community group if we click on that so where it takes up is just a second so yeah so it's not you know focused on different personas it's just a general view of where people can understand so we have to work on you know we have to create a different uh uh we have to create a navigation part uh that would be that can be in a way of different button and i'm not sure about replacing or removing something but there can be a addition right there is space we can even add that like whatever you guys feel is better because when you when you create a design it you understand then only that it looks good or bad i add one more part here and it would be look i don't know right now i'm just saying that you know we can just add this but i don't know until i see the design so that's why i'm telling you like if you can guys can work on different this is not the site you have to work on you have to work on the theme that i'll be sharing you uh in the after the meeting i'll share you the link of the that canvaling and also the previous design so based on that understand you understand from that and based on that theme you can make changes to the navigation portion and you can just create a you know portion here where um you guys can even work on one figma link only we all can collaborate or you guys want to participate separately what do you guys recommend we can work on single figma okay that would be cool like someone can you know take up the charge of that making the webpage and someone can pay take part that would be better right what do you guys what do you think okay that would be fine i'm working on okay cool so what i'll do is i'll create a figma link and you guys can join in over there uh someone has a few like figma premium or pro someone has that also no i don't have that okay i guess i'll have i have that or i'll just see that if i have because i had that good github back and they gave it with that and i'm sure if it had its part give it with github the student peg then i can also avail for that sorry uh my premium comes with student github student peg then i can also avail for it okay cool just check it over there it was there last year i guess i'm not sure about it right now because they even removed canva from it canva was also there yes so that is a very big saddening saddening thing but never mind if pro is there no it's it's a bit easier but we can work on the normal ones as well but pro if we have this feature we can make different pages you know we can avail different options it's good but never mind i'll share the link with there and we can work on that i was telling yeah so i'll just continue so what i was thinking so like this is the navigation page so you guys can even you know it's not because i'm saying that we can create a navigation part and make different personas it's just my view if you guys think like this is a site as a person who is a new beginner you can try it like that you know you are a contributor like for example you know you are a contributor so you come to the site so what do you guys think that would be easier for you to go here and find or have a button here so you guys can try that out by making that first because you won't understand it until you make it so that's the thing and also like this is the page and we will be working on this also but mainly this this week we have to focus on navigation persona and that's all right i guess for the website thing and this is the canva design just a second documentation standards yeah bobby is of great help there was one more link which i want to share with you all and i'm not able to find that there was one more task force of onboarding that is it this is the side no no i don't want this okay so here i'll share i'll just copy this link because i myself get lost i'll just copy this link as well on the chat okay so this is the place where you can learn more about onboarding uh see so persona sector overview so these are different sectors of personas for whenever when you're making the navigation part you can just you know take care of these i guess oh sorry there is a mistake i did i guess uh i'm not sure about one thing that these are the six personas all we have to focus on these four because that's what i had asked on as well i'm a bit confused about that but never mind i guess these are the different personas you have to work on just work on these six personas because these are the main personas that that are working with hyper ledger right now and these are the different sectors uh that where these guys come from right so the developer community these people are there and we have to work on this as well but we'll be work we'll be working on it after this not right now after once we have created you know easy easy access to those six personas then we can work on different sectors because for example you know these people are also there we have to take care of each and every person that visits hyper ledger sites so that's at work that if that person comes over here and he doesn't have to you know shut down the cider you know go back just because he didn't find the right option there to go to so these people like these this sector and the people involved in these sectors we have to work on that also but right now we're working on this one these six personas and right uh these are the one two three five six yeah these are the personas yeah can we get some information like how the sig chair would interact with the website and what are their needs like maintainers what are their needs like exactly yeah people who want to contribute to project we can get it like we also have been the first time contributor but uh about maintainers and other we don't know the requirements okay so very like you you raise the best one right now and that is what is the work of documentation people so right now you guys can give me whatever you said just you know give me a written part of these like we need this and this and this I'll just you know I have to send it to the documentation one because I'm also there so they they will be you know preparing the that thing that user guide thing so they'll be making these different guides like whatever they'll be reaching out to different groups like for example kajal which project are you working on uh minus template no I guess I guess you're working on some project right now yes a bevel and yeah bevel and uh captain so she's working on that right so what exactly uh since she's in both of them so when I'll tell them that you know we need uh uh details about these people there'll be sig chair so uh Arunima like the project head so either she or the people from the documentation they'll reach out to these people and they'll give it give us the information about these people so yeah definitely we'll get the information about sig chairs sig members to c members maintainers and as a contributors we have offers but still like she'll reach out to more contributors who have been a past contributor and all so these this is the work of documentation and that is why that project is made so our work is to you know create a link of reach or basically create something that makes it for the user to reach those user guides right if I'm not able to like I guess I am able to explain it to you uh yeah so just you know whatever thing is required we have the whatsapp group or even I'll recommend like if you guys are active on this call I can even check over there but uh there is a thread there like for the hyper ledger community I share the link with you you can discuss it over there also and on whatsapp also there isn't like there's no issue in that I'll recommend whatever is of your convenience just share everything with me so that I can you know work on that and I can reach out to the project maintainer of all different people sorry I don't have to reach out to them Arunama will do that and I'll get the information whatever is required for the website so this is how it went just give me a second so website Peter I'll just I have to share something with you there was one more task force page see like whatever I was saying it is there so the this this is these are the different navigation option so you have to make something that is that aligns with the design that Ben has shared and it involves and it involves the thing that we can do in the navigation bar for ease access of the personas and regarding the four personas I'll still clear it out that these those are the SIGs I guess that is what we have to work on these are the different personas and yeah we'll be working on that only and just a second yeah these are the different task courses no I am not seeing that I just want that one more link and just a second it's a bit difficult for me as well you know I have to be in contact with these people who are not responding Ben and David and I'm really trying that they contact yeah there it is got it just a second Niku had worked on this okay so see guys so Niku like who is now a mentor so he he created these Figma designs just a second I'll just zoom if I which these were not implemented last year because the project ended but we have to do that so what he did I'll just show you his work because he did a did an amazing job creating the Figma designs I love his designs why is the quality so bad okay I have zoomed in that so never mind so yeah see I guess you guys can just get the idea of what he did so these are the this is the actual side of hyper this was the actual side of hyper ledger right now it's not like that see the similar one but earlier so this is what Niku made carousel if you have like about the Figma you know so he made this he made all these things and he made the user guides for these different for developers for contributors for different one so we basically have to work on that similar thing but since he did not did it specifically focused on the different personas so we have to do that and yeah so he had focused on developers new community members business and learning resources okay so right guys I am a bit confused myself that we have to work on the different sectors or on the personas so I'll have I'll just clear it out with the john after this fall also till then you can just you know start making on the website but regarding that I'll mail him and ask him that what should I focus on whether the different sectors like Niku had did developers new community members business or the different personas so I'll ask about that but I just wanted to show you this is what he did and you guys can also work like this and make some you know initial designs so that we can work on that and our goal this year is that this will be this should be implemented on the main site that is why this project is still going on because the designs have not been incorporated yet and we'll have to do that so this is the these are the screenshots of what I showed you already with the we had recommended my changes these are the same things trending community activity yeah everything is just what I explained to you the youtube videos everything so we'll work yeah with time I guess it would be easier for you and me as well because I am also very new to hyper ledger I don't I am I'm into web development but I'm not much used to hyper ledger so I'll understand it along with you and whatever I understand I'll just explain it to you and I guess yeah I'm done for today I'll share all the resources and all the links after the meeting with you all so it is easier for you to understand and in case there is anything else that you know there is any problem or anything you can just ping me over it I'll just copy this thing here I will choose disconnected yeah I'm extremely sorry guys I just had to you know there was a network problem so yeah I guess I was clear with it and uh any more thing that you guys you know have doubt on you can just ask me over and we can wrap up after that Akanshe can you explain what exactly this onboarding project is okay yeah I'll do that so yeah I had as I had already said before but yeah I'll just you know speak up in a simpler language that you know this onboarding project project is basically last year what happened they wanted the hyper ledger site is not as user friendly as it should be so that is why they made this so that it's easier for anyone from any project whether it's bevel whether it's 80s there are different projects under hyper ledger if you guys apply it then you already you must be already knowing that there are different projects 80s and all so what happened that our work exactly is that you know someone who is from that project or someone who wants to apply to that project or someone who is already contributing or the mentor or the TOC member or anyone else you know involved with their specific project it is easier for them to reach to that page then they open up the hyper ledger site so last year there were different designs that were created on Figma but they though they those could not be incorporated because some or other reasons and this year that that project is continued and since the this year the theme is also being changed so that is a big thing that has happened last year the theme was same only so the designs that we have received from when we'll be using that theme there would be a new theme so we have to create a create a design based on that theme right and we have to make we have to redesign the hyper ledger website like that so that is one thing we have to work on and other than that we have to create wireframes right now so these wireframes would be converted to the web pages that we'll be creating then those web pages the web pages the designs would be coded and you know we will be actually working on the website so we basically we are basically working on the redevelopment of the hyper ledger website for a better user engagement on a better user design so that is what exactly I work like if I'm clear right now you can just tell me yeah yeah understood okay cool anyone else has any more doubt or we can just strap up I guess oh okay cool so anyhow voila they're on the call I just note them Shinji is also there Shinji hello if you are there hi I guess he has or she has just joined never mind so Ashwin Balveer Kajal and Shubham you guys are already there on the project and I guess you are interested in working as what I can infer from now so any if there is any problem or anything just bring me over on any communication platform I'll try to be active as much I can and yeah let's work on it after the call I'll be sharing sharing the new keep my link where we all can collaborate and work and you know if there are the designs are really good and Ben Ben I'm sorry the John approves them then you can we can start on the final you know working on the this what is that page the landing page we can work we can start working on the landing page as well if the design fits well design fits well so if there is any problem just bring me over and I guess yeah have a good night guys see you all in the next call bye