 Ford S-class What's the name of it again Evo X Evo turn Evo Z or Q or you bet you best not be ragging on the IX Raptor Good, we were hoping you would do this Hey everybody welcome to a new series from Cobb where we bring in people from all facets of the automotive world to talk all that is cars The way this works is I'll bring up some topics and ideas I'll throw them out into a pot and then these guys just stir it up and we'll see we can cook up my name's Adam I'm your host and moderator and this Is liftoff All right, let's get to introductions. We've got a couple special guests today Ben and also Ben as you can see from the shirt these guys are from a popular YouTube series called gears and gasoline You've probably seen some of their videos floating around online You both have the same name Might be a little confusing Is there some way that you guys kind of handle that day-to-day life? Yeah, if we were standing up, you would see that I'm like a foot taller than that so you can call us tall Ben I'm Asian and he's white. Yeah, I mean if you guys want to go with that we can do it It's up to you And then we've got two guests also from Cobb tuning here that are on my right drew gory He's one of our calibrators and then we've got Adam over here. So we have two Adams, of course Just remember his all his hair is here instead of up here like mine. That's the easy way to remember it backwards He's a project manager here at Cobb tuning. All right, let's get to question one Ben Asian, Ben. Yeah, what is your first car and do you know where it is today? Oh, wow So my first car was actually a 1994 Subaru legacy sedan stick like Didn't work at all. Basically, so it was great Like I learned to drive stick on it and the thing was that it would it would only start half the time You turn the key so stalling in that car was great because I would stall it like stop lights And then not be able to turn it back on so I've like push started the car like through stop lights That's why you're so good at roll-starting. Yeah, that's so good at roll-starting. Very comfortable Is there any grumpy people? Oh all the time. I mean there always are when you're learning to drive stick That's true. Yeah, no, it was especially bad when you couldn't start the car, but I have no idea where it is it We me and my dad tried to do the What is it the bearings on the bottom? I think I think we tried to replace the bearings and we didn't do it engine out We just dropped drop the oil pan and and tried to do it from there And I think it threw a rod like the first time we we took it out to drive And then like literally I think we just like left it in the parking lot. Is that your learner? I learned everything learned everything. Well, I didn't learn. I barely learned anything It was my learn it was one of my words is it is it? No, it was just gone from the park All right, Adam, what about your first car? 1987 Hyundai Excel GLS five-door hatch maroon maroon interior also I wish nobody does the crazy color yeah, so in 87 this was like when I guess fuel injection was coming on board so it had like a pseudo carb fuel injected thing I guess like TBI Three-speed automatic it was pretty sweet had a 215 JL subs in it What did what did you pray in pretty nice? What year was this by the way? Oh, okay, so I'm gonna age myself 95 sorry. Yeah, I think that I had some bone thugs and harmony And like ministry and stuff so I love all over the place I love when they name cars that are like total just like chip boxes something like really awesome like Excel It's like really ironic or like the esteem or stuff like that, right? And I'm not sure where it's at. It's probably just in pieces because I I totaled it Oh, yeah, I rear-ended somebody and push them into somebody else and It's pretty good. We're gonna send it off. Yeah, I will smash in something on the topic of crappy cars What's a car that most people think is like whether car guys are not that think is a pretty crappy car But you think is awesome for the escort Yeah, I definitely I haven't know what this says. He's been zx2 if needed Yeah, no, I mean the Ford escort isn't a great car It's a great first car because like it's gonna break a lot But you learn how to fix it because it breaks a lot. So that's fine. It's light. So it's it feels kind of spirited What what you still have it you still do a lot to it what what made you that attached to it? I don't know honestly. It was kind of like one thing after another It's like you get the bug the modifying bug and you keep going and it got to a point where the car is not Gonna sell for anything anyway, and I've got so much money into it. You might as well just keep going So I still have it. That's cool. Is it a forever car or probably is a forever car. I'll probably wreck it I want to track it. So it'll run into a wall one day And well, you can follow Adam and just wreck it into some Drew about you any any cars that suck, but you think they're awesome I don't know. I Had that that key Rio for a while, which coming to work here everybody made fun of me for having like every single day and I mean it wasn't a fun car to drive it was It was garbage, but it worked Let's flip the table. What about the cars that? Should be amazing or most people think are amazing and then you got to experience it somehow and it was just like wow This is a huge letdown I'm not a big fan of the R32. Yeah, I was gonna say R32 Yeah, doesn't really do anything for me at least a stock R32 we mod them They're pretty lively, but I think the stock engine needs to be modded. I enjoyed the rear-wheel-drive GTS. Oh, yeah, like R32 more than R32 GTR Those are cool. I was gonna say we might have to censor you all if you start bashing on R32 That's the total like fanboy car Yeah, no just bleep it out as the old man in the group. What's what? What I wasn't impressed with is Evil X. Oh, yeah. Yeah Maybe it's because it was a little more than that again. Evil X. Evil 10. Evil Z or Q or Okay, evil 10. That's why me and Drew's big pet peeve. It's like it's a what about the evil Iax Yes, okay, you best not be ragged on the Iax Do you remember the first time you rinsed on a car even if it was super simple and I don't mean to change your I remember my first modification. So after the Hyundai Excel And then there was a Ford Aro Star, which was pretty sweet Back more 15s would fit in that one and then and rear-wheel-drive, which was pretty amazing Mazda protege, which is like a yeah escort the BG chassis escort twin, right? Do you have a project what yours yours? Was yeah, what year is the currently drawn 90 to 91? I think some of those 90 or 91 like first gen So actually Took the exhaust so the muffler section came off. This was in like 95 because they didn't have money for parts I don't think they made exhaust systems for those cars ever So, you know, I just did the lightweight mod took the muffler section off and then with some rebar knocked out the cat Yeah, was it way faster? Oh, dude way faster Yeah, I actually took that car to the drag strip. I don't remember what it ran, but probably like really high 18 I ran a stock escort in the direction 19. Yeah, I like that. You clarify high 18s though. If it was low Yeah, yeah, that'll be okay. Yeah, I know what's like a super cool mod that you're really proud of that you've done On on a car like even if it's just one trivial thing that just makes you really happy or it's just cool I predict we're going to be talking about escorts in like 15 No one else on YouTube videos We're not the bug I drew as a super cool car. Yeah, I have a O2 Wrex that we swapped with a two and a half liter EJ a six-speed and rear-wheel drive converted So it's fun little donut machine. Yeah, and then you did you make the plugs for the yeah I did well a couple of the guys in the shop helped me Turn some stuff down on the lathe and so we could delete the axles and get rid of all that stuff in the knuckles, too So what does that do as far as like is the the ECU just like super I guess that's easy you control Is it just super confused or no because it's still the 16 bit ECU So it didn't have anything to control the the center diff or anything like that anyway And right now there's no speedo because that's actually driven off of the the front diff. So you just kind of Doesn't really matter how fast you go Burnouts is What what kind of mods drive y'all crazy that like because y'all shot cars we obviously talked a lot of customers What stuff I'm pretty open with people just like you know do whatever you want with your car, but there's certain things Yeah So like 45 degree negative camber Low-hanging fruit dude, that's low-hanging fruit. I'm trying to avoid that cheese. There's like a balance with everything though Stretched higher like an 11-inch rim with like a 205 Just not my thing but like you were saying like I respect people working on cars everybody wants to do something different But I think when you take it to like that level of non functionality when you're driving a car on the side walls See, I don't necessarily for me. I don't care as much about that as I care about safety You know what I mean? Yeah, like you can stance a car. It looks cool But so long as it's like you're not gonna like wreck the first corner you go around So the excel is old enough to her had I think I had like 60 series tires or 70 series or something On the topic of modifications. What's a mod that you wish would come back even if there's a good reason it's gone Mine man. I'm gonna cringe on myself here Drifting you're just doing a big like burnout and smoke everywhere and there's just red flashing rainbow color lights Like I think it's pretty cool. Do you guys know what h2o I is the like? horrible like car meet basically that happens every year in Ocean City, Maryland, but they had an underglow meet there Specifically for this is like yeah like this whole parking lot every car had underglow. Yeah, it's epic Do you guys remember the I think the company was gts the headlight covers the smoke like everybody had Like the original like murdered outlook, you know like black Mustang GT got to have the black tail light covers and black headlight covers Yeah, not saying I don't I want to bring it back, but and I wanted those bad tacky in the best way One of them bad back in the day. Does anybody else miss carbs, you know, I'm never He's got a hotchie Did you miss or you rebuilt one? I miss driving it No anytime I hear people Say, oh, yeah, no, I'm used to carbureted stuff computers way too difficult. I'm just like I Rebuilt the carbon it had a thousand parts. I'm lucky that I put it back together and that it works It's not yeah with modern cars. We have the computers to be able to tell you what's wrong Yeah, like that electric So as a Chevelle owner, I was going to do an LS swap and people were like, what are you doing? Keep an old carbureted motor in there What what do you that's a absolutely perfect segue. That's one of my favorite topics to discuss and debate Uh, what is y'all stance on and we can do like a broad topic here of period correct stuff or Stuff that doesn't belong with stuff kind of that whole mentality Some people are way on one side. Some people don't care and some people are like completely in the other But like rx7's with an ls. That's like the always the one I think of Oh, you took the rotary out. Who cares you just made the perfect car. You're talking about an fd with an ls one That's probably the most controversial. Yeah, I personally if I wanted to run Yeah, if I wanted especially the daily one like as a project car I think the rotary would be cool, but if you want to actually like drive it around and stuff, right You know, what about like classic cars like some guys are like they're cool if it's a newer car Then I care what you do But if like you go find some pretty pristine whatever and then you change something that you can never replace or something like that Some guys just get super bent over about it I think I think I get bent out of shape when people do engine swaps for the sake of getting attention You know like people will swap an engine. That's perfectly good for something else just so that people can like pay attention to their car Just to be different. Yeah, it's like build your car the way you want to if it's a good engine in there And you want that engine and build it up, you know, don't swap it out because you want attention That's a pretty good strategy to go by if if you can justify why you're doing it Then I don't care what you do Yeah, but if you're just doing it for looks or whatever But then again, you have the guys that are kind of breaking ground And maybe they're doing something that no one's done before and then that actually inspires your waiver So that can be cool at the same time Similar to that topic. What about collector cars that rich dudes just get because it's an investment And then it sits in their garage and it doesn't get driven What do you all think about that? Is there any car that like you're like I'm okay with that Like where I would be okay with somebody not driving it. Yeah, yeah, or or are you maybe you're already okay with any of them? Like does that bother you gosh? I like some cars There's So few of them that if you like really like I mean some of these like $15 million for Aris and stuff like if you're like Yeah, it's like if you're driving it It's like like I kind of get bent out of shape about RWB stuff a little bit. We were just watching, uh, chris patruscio's Video it's like a dock. He does docks on RWB builds, you know like the 993 porches and stuff It kind of frustrates me that they like cut into Fairly rare Yeah, like old classic porches that we don't have anymore like they don't make them anymore But I don't know still exists to me. Yeah exactly to me. There's a balance It's like I can get why you wouldn't want to modify it But to me it's what about if they just don't do any it just sits That's like the big question. Yeah, there's guys that will have a fleet and they literally just that's the way They polish them. It's funny because the internet gets all bent out of shape when people don't drive their car And if it's like a pristine car and they go drive it, they're like, yeah cool But then everyone wants to buy a car that has like no miles on it So like you like those people because you can buy the cars for them So that is the question way to like part of me one of my life goals is to become rich enough that I can Find really rare cars that have been sitting and then go do a burnout in it after I bought it Like in the guy's driveway and just be like, so yeah, and just man. So tell us about your m3 But best burnout or donut story any good ones You have a good one this morning. Oh, yeah, we were doing donuts this morning because it's nice and slick and um, our neighbor came down and Uh used quite a bit of profanity telling me that that I wasn't cool It was pretty cool Um, what is a Enthusiast group or style that you think is just awesome But you'll probably never actually math a car like that or be in a group like that buzz is so good Yeah, yeah, thank you. I'm hoping you'd say that Explain it if people don't know. Uh, that's might not know. That's just um, I guess the style of taking your vehicle to the extreme absurdity Just like massive body kits like these are like the mini vans that look like transformers Like horns on them. Yeah, yeah Seven exhaust pipes that have a hello kitty shape. The six foot front lip mandatory underglow everything. Yeah. Yeah fantastic Have you guys seen swangs since you've been here? Oh What's that swing is is that the uh, like 40 years wheels? Usually kind of a reasonable size, but then they've just got these Oh the uh, like the Dayton like spokes, but they come out like very far With like the like blades on it seems like a texas thing. Yes, it is very houston first and never heard of it before movie game It's uh, I don't know how it's legal. I don't know how you don't find them. Look just like mangled up Yeah, if pop-up headlights are a pedestrian hazard then these wheels. Yeah, seriously Well fellas, it's been a really good discussion so far But gotta wrap it up not completely though. Uh, we have got one more thing going for us. I don't need this anymore We're gonna play a little game that I like to call car charades. I'm gonna have a name here. Hopefully Here's the rules Each one of you will come up here move this out of the way We'll pull out a piece of paper from this filter. Uh, it's gonna have a car's name on it You'll have 30 seconds to act out the name of the car No, no talking, but you can make sound effects. That's encouraged actually Adam you're up first. Oh god draw a card or draw a name and then come up here 30 seconds somebody somebody behind the camera start a start a timer in the horror artist Are you guys ready? Okay Jeep All right, Drew you're a mixed So that's one point for drew the half point each. No, no, you got you. I didn't hear it. You got it. Yeah Give us a timer super super forster Oh portion 9-11 Been Caucasian been oh grab your grab your slip Wait, who got that me. Oh, okay. We'll one here and one here. Nice job. Oh timer Off-roading uh Raptor Wow, that was good. It was impressive. We were hoping you would do this Like that's that's what we were going for. Oh man. That's not the prize. I promise I saw you catching air. So All right, who's next Asian band And we we have a tie three-way tie Crack we're that good for all four of you All right, you got five seconds to think about it. Give us a few seconds and start the timer Oh, I got this Oh Like who said it first, I don't know. It sounded like over here I didn't say it. I didn't say it. Yeah, was it you? I don't know. I think it was me. I think it was you Is that the tie? Did we get a four person tie? No, that means he's got two. Oh, you're the winner I didn't get the other one. You got the flat the flat six one. I thought you got Suck it All right I'm gonna cheat. I'm just gonna talk about stuff Whoa, whoa, you can't cheat. Yeah, why do you get to cheat? But because I'm not the winner here. All right, give me a timer Oh There we go champion. All right, we have a winner. Please stand up Asian bin If you've never seen this, this is a version one access for it. It doesn't even work on zx twos It's a really good door stop. Nice. Okay. I'll hook it up to my evo But because that's like pretty much all the support you guys offer for you. No, not even on that It's not really good for anything, but it's a good keepsake. Nice. This is originally for I don't know. WX. WX. So I would never use it. It will break your car But fellas, that was awesome. We had a great time, but we are finally all done I want to give one more shout out to ben and also ben check out their channel again It's called gears and gasoline that they make awesome content That was an absolute blast and we will see you on the next liftoff Drew you suck at acting