 As the Cardinal State Chapter of the Labour Party suspends three of its chieftains and this associates itself from the LaMidia Papa function of the party, the breakfast this morning will take another look at the internal struggles threatening the party and how it can rise above it. As technology is evolving, we are going to be looking at the place of tech in architecture and how ripe we are in Nigeria to embrace smart homes. We shall also be taking a look at the headlines and off the press with someone who can give us some good breakdown of some of the headlines on our national dailies. Good morning and welcome to The Breakfast is the techno file edition of the program this Tuesday morning. I am Maureen and I am Nyam Ghul. We're glad to know that you are there and watching us. Yesterday we were here and we hope that we are all going to wake up together and enjoy the morning and today we're going to be asking ourselves as the theme of the day is tech making us smarter or dumber? Are we dumber? Are we smarter with tech coming up? I don't know. Well it's become a very important question to ask especially as some people who have been deeply involved in tech are beginning to raise concerns you know warnings about technology and how it's impacting our lives. Yeah there was a movie a long time ago I think the star in that movie was Will Smith and they called it iRobot problems that the tech experts are expressing now were captured in that movie where where the robots became so intelligent and they wanted to be independent they could think for themselves and they wanted to conquer the world and exactly that is what is playing out and some people who are who are in the tech business are expressing concerns that this AI when it does come the way we want it to come. No not the way we want it to come, the way we do not anticipate. Jeffrey Hinton who had worked with Google for over a decade left Google not long ago and is one of those who have raised these concerns and he's worried that AI you know the machines could become so intelligent that killer robots could be emerging in the future and also of course we're already aware of how machines now serve in restaurants and all of that but he's worried that we may get to a point where killer robots will emerge these machines may turn out becoming more intelligent than human beings. So that is a terrible thing to happen if it does happen and I assure you it will happen because you have robots now being created, robots that have feelings, robots that can be jealous, robots that you know. How much have you seen the men who are married robots in Asia? Some men have married robots in Asia. So well things are crazy so if this happens there's a tendency the robots might want to take over the world and there may be nothing we can do about it. So in in trying to make our lives easy and we're bringing a lot of things to make or just rest and the things begin to do things robots will now come and begin to have rights and fight for their rights and all that. Namgul I tell you this concern it is scary and it's so scary that recently more than 27,000 people including men who are very knowledgeable in tech they have issued an open letter calling for a six month pause, six months pause in the development of technology you know so that is how serious this is but then the question is the tech you know muggles these tech giants will they pay attention? Would they want to be stopped? You see world domination is a thing for a lot of people out there so would they stop and that's one of the one of the things that I think tech giants aim to achieve global domination. So would they listen to those who are petitioning who are writing and saying guys let's pause this and have another look at what we are creating so we don't end up destroying ourselves. Yeah well the tech guys want to dominate the world and so many people there's been a conspiracy theory for a long time that the pharmaceutical companies seek to dominate the world and a lot of things that happen to us now diseases that come are actually created so that they can sell their drugs that theory is there even if we cannot prove it but there are a lot of things that are happening and making us look at these theories again and saying is there some truth inside it and some people are also worried that someone who is supposed to be a tech person Bill Gates is the one who predicts how how pandemics will come and so many other things that he should have no business with but the fact that he's a millennia and maybe cashing out and all that multi-billionaire and maybe cashing out on it and all that making people get a lot of concern so if AI is developed to the point that they have a mind of them their own it's going to be a very big thing and I have this feeling in my head that one day we just might destroy ourselves and begin anew there's even a possibility that this world has existed before we don't know people there are people who say that as well but I think if we continue in the way we are going we just might destroy ourselves and civilization will have to start from scratch again no as I said some people have virgin there's no doubt that technology has improved life on earth there's just no doubt about it I mean we're enjoying what we're doing right now is thanks to technology and it's been evolving and evolving and evolving but do we know where to draw the line do we know where to say enough we should let we should let God be God yes because we cannot play God we can be intelligent creators creatures of God but we shouldn't play God and as soon as we begin to play God it means that we're going to go above and beyond we can't play God I mean any attempt to play God will mean the destruction of mankind automatically as you saw in the Bible where they built that tower they were building to get to heaven and at some point God confounded their languages and that was the end of that tower so I think mankind should learn take a lesson from that and know when to stop especially when those who are who built these technologies are themselves raising the concerns as I said Jeffrey is raising that concern and he comes from a history of you know mathematicians his grandfather was into mathematics was into technology his father was and he has been into mathematics been into science been into technology is something is very passionate about has been in google for over 10 years and developed some very great technologies but he's the one raising these concerns and saying we may have taken this too far already and we may need to take a look at what we are creating they will not listen to me I assure you they will not listen to him climate change is one of the things that all of us are seeing we're seeing the science and all that and there are people who are still doing what they're doing regardless well like you said mathematician they came from a family of mathematicians but if you live in Lagos you have to be a mathematician to be able to navigate the traffic here in Lagos and that's why you need to look at last month they will give you a travel advisory every day tell you where the traffic is heavy and where the traffic is not heavy for instance the boundary roundabout is busy according to last month as a result of influx and commercial activities mobile road in and out is good marine beach intersection in what Nagav to connect area B is good at what journey a papa through the marine marina beach or bridge rather to connect Igomu and Ijora is good both entry points of seafax and Ijora or lock bar in what total is good they ramp through total on the bridge in what navy junction to connect Leventis is also good so a lot of lot of places are good this morning traffic movement from marine beach through Dalami connecting Nagav down to area B is good a Leganza to connect a Tisela down to mr. Beaks in words are more time to Liverpool roundabout in and out is good and this moment at this moment a papa jr a in and out it's also good and return journey from Wolfgate back to a Leganza flour meals Leventis ascending Dalami bridge in what Ijora seven up is good so there are a lot of goods this morning and if you're moving well when I was on my way to this place this morning the traffic was quite good so maybe that's what is also in all the places that last month has given us that they are good we're hoping it will still be good when you live home to get to work wherever that might be okay well hopefully that happens for you let's take a look at top trending all right top trending we have a first up trending Nigerian soldiers caught assaulting citizens at Kaduna we do have a silent theme to that can we have it roll off the phone off the phone i said off the phone i'm here you are making call i'm calling a friend she wish she doesn't take him lie down lie down inside lie down i said lie down lie down inside look on the down oh don't we lie down i said lie down okay i'm not watching you lie down inside you look on the down i said lie down nobody well that's happened in Kaduna state we understand that the military has responded to this video that turned it and have promised to investigate and get to the bottom of the matter we thank god for social media we thank god for the technology that we were talking about because a lot of times this kind of things happened but um they were never reported or they were never captured and that deniability was there they could deny that this thing never happened and of course how can you show proof because you're not allowed to take still photographs in those days and who was moving with the camera if not a cameraman so now everybody has a phone and these things can be captured but these people are supposed to be in charge of the territorial integrity of nigeria they should be at the borders they should be um warning of any danger coming into the country what are they doing what business do they have in the civilian population that will give them the right or the opportunity to deal with civilians the way they do this is not the first time you know the police do their own we is bad enough with the police that we're taught to to be able to to be our friend yeah to be our friend to manage the civil civil society and then now the army going into the fray as well and doing what they do i think it's really bad and i like the response of the authorities anytime this kind of a thing happens and that they're being well maybe not proactive enough but their reactions are always very good the way i see them so please in in that video which i had initially thought was a silent thing but we had track up to it you saw we heard a lady resisting the brutality and not allowing herself to be coward and you know not entering the at least you was trying to explain exactly of that for me what what kind of it's it's really disheartening when the people you should run to for protection are the ones that you now fear it's it's terrible and that's why some in some places the Boko Haram and the bandits are festering because these people offer protection and the people pay for their services thinks that the government should do ordinarily the army the the police should do ordinarily private citizens who have now taken laws into their hands are the ones that are doing it and sometimes you ask the community people and they say what can we do because the government has forgotten they're now at the mercies of the terrorists and the bandits which is very sad sometimes you hear of these things happening and it gives you to to to know that these are fellow Nigerians within our territory being terrorized being brutalized and we hear all the stories almost on a daily basis and it's sad we've interviewed Reverend Hyap from Cardinals that repeatedly on this station and it's always been stories of woes woes and woes and you just hope that that story will change soon especially as a new government is said to come into play yes the new government should know that protection of lives and property is a very paramount thing is a primary thing that people should have from the government and nobody else because if you give it out to everybody to protect themselves we never know what it will degenerate into we saw a community that felt helpless now turbaning a terrorist a known terrorist because they needed the protection from terrorists who does that so if if things are allowed to go the way they are going then terrorists will now share Nigeria into small pockets of places of jurisdiction you know terrorist a is is taking care of this place terrorist b is taking care of this place which should never be so government the next one especially that is coming in should make sure that we are protected we our families and our properties we are all protected now you want to take the second top trending yeah well um a group Nigerian state protest at the presidential tribunal um we also know that uh the security uh agencies were also on ground trying to prevent people from uh protesting and all that but Nigerians protested and this way you have the picture yeah now this could have been solved if they had accepted to televise the uh proceedings at the courts because a lot of people would have sat back at home to watch what is going on because where they are they can't see what is happening in the court so they will always only see what they're seeing outside there but if they had televised it there are a lot of people that would have wanted to follow and I think some of these things wouldn't have come up yes but there were calls for it to be televised but it's up to the judiciary I think to decide if they want to go public some of argues that televising it may put the judges under pressure or make them anxious some people have stage fright according to some arguments well well obviously they cannot be forced to televise it otherwise they would have televised it since there were calls for it to be televised right so here we are the way it is it started already uh we've been looking forward to it starting it has started started yesterday so let's just keep watching to see how it will pan out if you ask me as a person I would say it's a lame excuse to say that they have stage fright a george has stage fright do your thing and leave the rest to God there are countries that televised this there are people who televised this they don't have two heads it's just a way of transparency and all that and if you talk about pressure you need the pressure to do the right thing because you cannot do the wrong thing under pressure when people are looking at you there's everybody my eyes are on you and you will be forced to do the right thing I heard something said by some of the judges yesterday and I said the peace of the country must be taken into consideration and I was wondering whether we're taking this to so what do they mean the peace of the country is it the peace of the country that we should just let sleeping dogs lie or is the peace of the country that there should be justice done peace of the country in what regard and who is it going to favor peace according to who and who are you considering when you talk about peace is it a grief people who think there is no justice done or the people who say okay we have done the abracadabra just let us do what we need to do and get out what peace are you talking about peace cannot exist where there is no justice if you ask me well the chief justice of the federation is definitely aware no doubt that the world is watching Nigerians are watching this is a very very sensitive time in our history as a people it's probably the biggest tribunal electoral tribunal in africa that's ever happened we have five of the political parties that went to cut over this i understand that one we threw as it yesterday well some some papers are carrying that the case was struck out the a a but others say that we drew the the case the initial narrative was that they withdrew in fact i understood they were to withdraw yesterday so that was the initial story that they were going to withdraw as a yesterday because of some whatever within their party i want to go with the fact that they withdrew whatever else the story might be they withdrew they did the right thing and they saw whatever uh was for and against them and they withdrew yeah so the major contenders are out there the labor party the pdp against the apc so it's it's a hot one and uh we're all watching we're watching let's see how it plays out and we hope that whatever the outcome nigeria will be the better for it because we can't we can't um we can't we can't survive an uprising we don't need an uprising of any kind we're not even talking about a war but we don't need any kind of we don't even need another enters we don't know but haven't you noticed and i had asked uh when we had our ballot 2023 one of the things that was very obvious to nigerians was how calmly the youth conducted themselves in the wake of all the transpired during the elections there were serious grievances there were so many irregularities yet well they were complained about but there were no you know riots there were no the youth didn't take the law into their hands they were so well behaved and it was quite instructive to see that happen and they were taking the intellectual way because if they had a fight they will go to twitter they will go to the social media so it was a good outlet yes but coming out to the to the physical they were quite well behaved like you said and whoever is in charge who whatever the outcome is going to be should never take that piece for granted should never take that behavior for granted because people of nowadays are a volatile type and it's not it's not like they just want to be but a lot of them just want the right thing to be done and if you are not able to do it they'll be asking you to leave the stage for people who can do it a lot of people before them couldn't say that maybe because they didn't have that power of anonymity maybe because they didn't have a lot of things that they have these days youths have these days but whatever be the case the right thing should just be done and if it is done everybody will be happy for it yeah let justice be seen to be done I mean those who belong to the APC will tell you that they won the election fair and square and the opponents the position are saying no you didn't win it fair and square but it's up to the judges now to to to deliver justice to look at the cases and deliver justice so we are watching to see whether justice will be delivered or not for those who are seeking to annul it and for those who are seeking to protect it so it's it's let's see if the just the the justice the judiciary would do justice to this case yeah it's possible the APC won it and if they want it fine let everybody see that they want it we know for a fact that a wrong was done by INEC not necessarily APC by INEC whether they were influenced by APCs another case we do not know about that but INEC went back on his own words ate his own words and then did the wrong thing but if it can be interpreted by the lawyers and everybody to say that they did the right thing let us see proven that they did the right thing and all that and we see a winner and emerge you know in a clean way whether it's APC whether it's AA whether it's whatever party let us just see the process that led up to that and how clean it was how clean it was and INEC is said to prove to you that the election was you know clean I understand they've billions of Naira to defend their stance our Naira because INEC has no money of its own exactly taking our money to fight with us that is something that needs to be looked into when EFCC should move they don't move when ICPC should move they don't move if 400 billion was voted for INEC to do the right thing conduct election in the right way where they're getting the extra money to go and fight these cases in court should INEC even be saying whatever we have said we have said it's it's terrible so let's see how it plays out let's see how it plays out you're watching the breakfast on plus TV Africa it is a Tuesday edition technophile we'll call it we'll be right back to take a look at the headlines do stay with us