 The first clip is from 2019. So this is after McCabe has been dismissed from the FBI and he is on a book tour. And I think he's having conversation with Anderson Cooper and I think it reveals a little bit of his mindset, the mindset of the people at the very top of, you know, the investigation about how they were thinking about how this was gonna play out. So Adam, go ahead and play that clip for us. Not just one, not just two, but numerous people in and around the president, in and around the campaign, maintained contacts with individuals from Russia, people connected to the Russian intelligence services. You have a number who have been charged, a number who've been already convicted and pled guilty for all kinds of different offenses. Do you still believe the president could be a Russian asset? I think it's possible. I think that's why we started our investigation and I'm really anxious to see where Director Mueller concludes that. And then this next clip is just from last week. So clearly his belief that Trump might have been a Russian asset in early 2019 has not been borne out whatsoever. But now he's being asked on CNN about his reaction to the Durham report as someone who's named in at hundreds of times. Let's talk about it with CNN, senior law enforcement analyst Andy McCabe. He's the former deputy director of the FBI. And importantly, he oversaw what became known as a crossfire hurricane probe into Trump in 2016. John Durham says that you shouldn't have launched it. What's your response? John Durham is wrong. That's not just me that says that every other entity that's investigated our activities in 2016 agrees. And that's of course, as you mentioned, the DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz, as well as the Senate Intelligence Committee led of course at the time by a Republican. So this report Poppy stands as an anomaly. So Eli, what's your reaction to now CNN's senior legal analyst Andrew McCabe's assertion that this is just an outlier and everyone else says that the investigation was pretty much justified? Well, you know, and now let's turn, now that we're talking about the danger to children right now at clown parties, let's turn to our senior analyst, John Wayne Gacy. Tell us, what do you think about this new crackdown on child abuse and are you serious? This is, I'm just, I know I should, we know it's there, but like, listen. Let's first of all say the anomaly. We've talked a lot about the revolving door from the intelligence agencies to keep the news on previous streams. It's fairly disturbing, but putting that aside. Okay. The substance is saying that. So first of all, we should just point out, Andrew McCabe did not elect to talk to John Durham and yet he is here talking to CNN. So that's, so okay, if you really think you're, if you really think it's all just a big persecution, that's a tell. Second of all, he's wrong. It's not anomaly. Michael Horowitz's report in 2019 is devastating to the FBI. The FBI itself in response to the Durham report said, we take it very seriously and we've already put reforms in place and the people who are responsible for this no longer work for us. So, I mean, I was paraphrasing there, but so the FBI itself doesn't think it's an anomaly. And I guess the other point is that, that first clip, he's making that a, late February 2019, he's talking to Anderson Cooper. We would learn in a few months that the Mueller team found no evidence of a Trump-Russia conspiracy. And then we would learn by the end of the year that the FBI had deceived and gained the surveillance court, the FISA court, and that it wasn't an isolated incident. And, we would learn all kinds of other things about this investigation. So what the hell is the former FBI deputy director talking about when he says he thinks that the president of the United States might be a foreign agent, which is basically, I mean, you are, you are- That is John Birch Society level- Totally. Invective. And it's just coming from the other direction. And it's coming from the FBI. And there was no evidence, and he knew there was no evidence for it when he was making those remarks. There were no evidence when he was fired from the FBI of that. And the, I mean, the arrogance and the fact that it's like you're pouring, it's a kind of like at some, I mean, listen, I don't go in for the disinformation talk that everyone's talking about. But if you want an example of disinformation, Andrew McCabe and his interview with Anderson Cooper, that's disinformation. And he knew better. That's the thing. It's like, listen, I forgive other analysts for saying in 2017 it looks like Trump has something to hide. I thought Trump had something to hide. When he fired Comey and the way he did, there was a lot of information the public didn't have. So, I mean, that's, that happens that, you know, life, you know, there was, but the people at the FBI who are running the investigation, they have far more information than us as it should be. So for them to then become like public pundits or something and then use that their positions to create a false kind of scandal or false crisis in American democracy, it's despicable. And it's unbelievable to me that he's still an analyst for CNN. How could you be some, how could you be on the journalism side of a news outlet as some sort of analyzing the news? He should be the target of a hostile interview. You know, I mean, like he should be like, you know, Jake Tapper should do his whole thing. By the way, Jake Tapper is very good on the dorm report, I should say. I wanna credit him for that. And there's a lot of, you know, but you know, when Jake Tapper was saying, I made a new rule, we're not gonna have any Republicans on, they're gonna lie about the 2020 election. Okay, great. Can we have a rule? We're not gonna have anybody lie about the 2017 investigation into Trump, including our own senior law enforcement analyst. So I just find it incredible that he's still an analyst. And he's not the only one. I don't wanna pick on Andrew McCabe. All of these people, it's particularly true with CNN and really MSNBC. I mean, half their roster seems to be these former- Yeah, Brennan. Yeah. Yeah, it's, to rebuild their credibility, I really would like to see an editorial policy go into place that you just don't hire former intel officials to be commentators for you. It doesn't seem- Well, I should say, if he's, if you have on just a generic former senior FBI person as a news analyst, because I don't know, we, there was a terrorist attack or something. Yeah. I mean, that's fine. That person's gonna have perspective on how investigations work. They're probably gonna have some old contacts. It's when there is, the story is the bad behavior from the FBI. You can't then have these people on as like news analysts. Hey, thanks for watching that excerpt from our conversation with Eli Lake dissecting the Durham report. You can watch that full conversation right here or another clip from the conversation right here and tune in every Thursday at 1 p.m. for more conversations like this.