 Okay. Good evening all. Okay, so ours is the last but not the least presentation which we are going to talk about here. My name is Chandrakand Uttar Mal and I work with the CDAC Center for Development of Advanced Computing, which is a government organization in government of India. I have my friend Mr. Rajesh Ranjan, who is open source community manager with NEGD, which is also associated with the government of India for its e-governance project. I just joined there in government of India three months back as open source community manager based in Delhi. I was early in Pune with Red Hat. I worked for Red Hat ten years. And I learned a lot from Red Hat how to work with the open source. Before that I was in community, but after working with one to two years I joined in Red Hat. And this is how and I started open office translation ten years back for Hindi language. And I become after one to two years I become a marketing lead for open office in India. And after that LibreOffice started then again I am translating here for Hindi. So what we are going to talk about is how is the community, LibreOffice community in India. As you know, I mean let me tell you that Rajesh Ranjan is the one who bought me into this community stuff. So yeah, to be very honest the community in India, LibreOffice community in India is not so huge. It's a very small community and if you talk about the community is mostly from localization team. So when we analyzed the community in India we thought it's very small and we need to grow that up. So unlike other presentations what we will be talking about here is how we can grow this community so called LibreOffice community. And that is where this particular idea came up when we were discussing that this is a good time when we come together and start discussing about what is the problem, why there is no big community in India. And the first of its kind the meeting on LibreOffice community took place way back in May 14. And this is the meeting which we did in Red Hat office. Yes, actually we are discussing about LibreOffice things and I was earlier in marketing lead for India for open office. So I was thinking that but there are a lot of different type of burden with us. But we planned that better we should start with something. So we asked with a different localizer because major localization community was there. So we asked all the persons and we took a place in the Red Hat office in a conference room and we asked all the persons to come there and we arranged some pizza and whatever there for all the persons. And we did some brainstorming there and ideation there and after that some thing happened. So as Italo says what we should be targeting about is not the ones who are already using or not those people who are already on to Linux systems. What we should be targeting is those who are on other platforms like Microsoft Windows for example where people would not have heard about LibreOffice and its importance and why they should migrate to LibreOffice. So when I said it is a small community it was in that particular terms that you know you would not find many people on Windows who are using LibreOffice there. So that is what this particular idea started out. So these are all the list of persons who are localizer in unique languages. We have 22 who do not know for that for their information we have 22 official languages. Apart from that lot of languages are there but at least we should count for our sake for our easiness 22 languages and here we have and we are trying to do some more languages and for CD with CDAC. So there is a program called TDIL Technology Development for Indian Languages Program of Government of India. What it tries to do is it tries to combine all the free and open source softwares into one disk and along with that softwares they also try to pitch in some basic tools like how do you type in Indian languages because typing in Indian languages itself is a major problem unlike other languages because the other languages most of the times they use the standard keyboard which is available on the computer but in case of Indian languages for those who know it is difficult so you cannot use the same keyboard which you see or which you find it everywhere. So what we have to do is we have to have a special layout, special keyboard layout wherein all the different Indian language characters are placed. So to tell you even that the typing problem in all the Indian languages is still not available for all the people. So what government is trying to do is trying to bring all these basic and elementary stuff in one CD and then distribute to the common people so that the usage of the language is increased and more importantly as it is said we have included this library office, localized versions of the library office in that CD and that is distributed to... Last Norbo is mentioned as a reception and there was last Norbo. Oh I got afraid. So recently there was a conference in Bhopal which was a world Hindi literature conference wherein government of India had distributed approximately 25,000 such disks to common people and we will show you that. So the major component of the community in India is localization and that's how it is. Most of the localizers are seasoned here. We are having Krishnagau here. Also from Tamil we are having here persons and any Peter who given presentation for Janatas he is doing for Malayalam. So we are having 4-5 persons here in this list. This is about digital India. Actually what for the community perspective I wanted to tell you in front of you that this can be the biggest opportunity for us because the new government is very much serious about making it penetrate inside even a village. So almost 250,000 villages, village panchayat we are calling it is a group of villages. Their common service centre is going to be established within 3 years and it is already in plan. And 150,000 post office is going to be multi-service centre. So everywhere will be computer and everywhere the people in the lowest strata can have reach to the computer. So this digital India is the biggest government of India plan announced this year and they have very big agenda for this thing. So they have also a plan of making at least one person from each household a digitally literate person. So we could take this advantage and try to promote and proliferate a liberal office in India. So this is all about the open source policy which government of India has recently released. So what it talks about is the government of India projects and initiatives whatever are there should try and use open source software. So this is where we can take a leverage upon and as it is in other countries also it is not yet a compulsory thing or it is a mandatory thing. But the government is trying to make that mandatory and see that you know lot of the initiatives make use of such friend open source software. Yes if you can see this document. It is so much open source friendly the second one link is 115 times if you search for open source word phrase you can find open source word 115 times. So such a positive policy towards open source is there and in this thing liberal office is placed as a standard and preferential tool for the travel documentation other purposes other related purposes. So you can find the name liberal office you can search the liberal office things there itself. Now this is something called as Bharat operating system solutions. Now this is the variant of Linux system which has been indigenously developed in India and government of India is trying to put this particular operating system in almost all the government organizations. So anyway by default this boss operating system which is an operating system in itself will have liberal office. It is already having. It is already having. So slowly this is going to penetrate inside the offices of government of India. Certainly the liberal office is going to penetrate everywhere. So why we are mentioning it here is because once this operating system is installed in major government segments or domains or offices this is going to increase the usage of liberal offices. This is about fuel project actually we tried to build a community around languages and linguistic resources. 10 years before when I joined Red Hat then I was very much frustrated with consistency and standardization in translation. When I was translating save ads or print preview so somebody were telling that why you are translated like this you should translate like this. So I thought that this is a good idea. Better I should put you all at one place and ask your solution finally release that solution and we call it fuel frequently used entries for localization. We collected some of the term from desktop application liberal office open office was at that time is 7, 8 year back 7 year back and we collected all the entries of 3, 4 level from different most popular applications of Linux applications and we called it frequently used entries for localization. So around this glossary initiative we have created a repository of not only glossary linguistic resources of open source linguistic resources. You can tell it a largest open source linguistic resources because it covers in almost 60 languages and it is having style guide, it is having translation assessment matrix, it is having glossary, evaluated glossary. It is domain based glossary like fuel for desktop, fuel for mobile, fuel for web, fuel for cloud, fuel for we are going beside IT also, fuel for agriculture, fuel for health. So for the whole translation localization domain we are creating a thing and this become a government of India standard also it is supported by Red Hat, Mozilla, Wikimedia, Government of India, SIDA, Government of Maharashtra, several state government and all language community. So we can take help of this particular community to grow the liberal office community as well. So yes that is most important you can see these are two pictures. So in year 2013 and 14 I mean last two consecutive years we have we have been arranging a conference in India wherein we call this language or localization professionals and we discuss about various aspects of how we can take it ahead or their experiences and so on and so forth. This year also this time we are going to do on 20th November. So Mozilla and in different organization is sponsoring that one. So you are invited. So what about the organizations which are already on to liberal office or who are already using liberal office at their places. So these are different organizations which are said is TDIL Technology for Development of Indian Languages. We have got CDAC, we have got Kerala State IT Mission, Government of Maharashtra, STC, Indian District of Technology, Mumbai and so many others. There are few names here, few major names. We can take support of these organization also again for our purpose, for our community purpose, community building awareness and everything. So we have put their name here. Now as far as the educational thing is concerned, now there are few initiatives which have been taken place. So one of the initiatives is from CDAC which talks about certificate course in open source software. Now earlier it was Barthi Open Office, localized Open Office. Now because the page has not been changed, it still remains in Open Office but the courses now which are being run are in liberal office and we have got around 365 franchise centers across the country which has got this one month course on liberal office. So the proliferation itself on liberal office education is good enough and we can leverage upon this network to promote this. Another initiative is from IIT, Mumbai which is called as a spoken tutorial. So what it has done is it has created video tutorials on various open source software including liberal office. So you can see this liberal office writer. Different languages also. Yeah and more importantly this is available in multiple languages. So what you hear is in multiple languages so that more audiences actually covered in that. See you can see that liberal office writer on bossliness. So that same boss Bharat operating system solution. In Marathi, see how much module is there. In Marathi 462. 462. Different modules are there. Okay so these are some of the promotional activities as I said. So we participated in 10th Vishwa Hindi Summelan. That's World Hindi Conference which was in Bhopal. And then we also participated in Marathi literature conference which was held in Port Blair, Andaman. And then there are other you know such initiatives where we went to some engineering colleges and then some text shows where there some of the other organizations like Krishi Vidhna and Kendra which is an agricultural institute. And then this some of the schools so which we wisdom world school and so many other places. So the presentation is all about is talking all about what is currently there in India and how we can try to build this community to a larger community. Some are related to liberal office. Yes. On the basis of that thing how we can build a vibrant and good supporting community who can favor liberal office especially. Yeah and now this being the first conference for us we have got to learn from a lot of people especially Italo. We are very much thankful to you all given very good insights into this and of course Kaur and you know others and this gave us you know really good motivation to work to understand the better flow of actually every community has open source community has one mindset. But every open source different open source community has different type of mindset also some different different culture also some type of difference is there. So we understand a lot here. So of course these things community building or brand awareness training and migration supporting other Indian languages and you know bringing more organization on board is all what we plan to do in coming days. So different bullet marks can come. So this is this is the communication things I mean we have a mailing list specific to India is it was created last year and then we have also have a Facebook page of course it was just created I mean yesterday it was created when we heard about you know other community pages. So going on Facebook and Google plus next year you will see number of people which are here. So that's it from our side. Thank you so much and we are happy to take any quick questions if we have maybe the basic but we'll try to answer. Yes. One question. You said you have 22 languages. Yes. Dialogues in the new localize. And did you mean any problems showing different words I mean those dialects should maybe have different text different characters. Yes. Yes. You must use different forms. Yes. So yeah I'll answer to his question. I understand what you are trying to tell because India has got so many languages and once we are trying to bring all those languages on board LibreOffice they are going to be problems especially in terms of fonts because not I mean if you see in open source community there are some languages for which you won't find you know free and open source fonts which are unicode compatible. So the problem is we are going to face that problem. We need to have such fonts which are there in open source and which supports those languages. So when you see this particular slide for the second slide we say that not all of them are here. These are the languages or 13 languages which are currently there with LibreOffice and these languages don't have any problems. The ones which we are trying to bring on board especially like Santali, Bodo, Dogri. A smaller language but not a smaller in the sense of population. It's going to be a problematic situation. With context to India is smaller language but they are also most of them are having population 10 million at least. You know that for the localization is better that you talk with Sophie and Christian. You have an instance on Poodle and create all the strings. Yes we know the process. We already started for some other languages. Some of the languages are already there but it's important that for each language we get also a contact name because we have to get better organized on that. Yes we will do that. We are trying for that one. I understand that. I mean 22 languages is enough. It's a very complex structure for us also. It's already 3 more than the maximum but 22 is crazy. Making a balance between the all community members actually unfortunately we have most of them are our friends and we work together since long because of localization but it is very much difficult to have a similar wavelength and it's a chance of conflict. A lot of things is there. You can understand the diversity of India. Let's say a reference language for everyone like India or really there are areas of the country where there are different languages and people do not understand each other. So there are some languages which are at least understood by most of the people. For example Hindi is one languages which is used or can be understood by most of them not entire population. You are a mambillion I mean. And English of course can be understood. It's not native. It's not coming under 22 languages but it's a dominant language. We should think about native communities you know. English is okay. We all speak English but it's not our language. So respect the native communities. And just a question if you are able to understand is just out of curiosity. In how many languages is Microsoft Office available? That is also not eight languages only. That is not much. Eight or nine languages they are available. We have far more than that. This is a winning point for LibreOffice. We will certainly make it in all 22 languages. And it can be a very much big win. You already told that it can be a big win for us that we can say proudly that it's available in 22 languages. As I said CEDAC, Government of India and the community is going to try very hard to bring all these languages on board. That's what I can say. But I think it's a winning point not only because we provide 22 against nine but because providing 22 we show respect for each community. That is very much important. It's not... So once we are writing on some mailing list I also told that open source is not just for money. If a single user is there and you want to contribute open source is ready to take the contribution and respect their contribution. So that is the most important point. If a smaller language sees just 5% is also speaking and they are coming to you. So you won't tell that I won't take your contribution for the language. So this is the most important part of open source projects. There's a lot... The word open source, the term open source was 120 times more than 120 times in a document. How about open standards? Is it also there and what is the policy regarding using open standards and particularly of course the open document format? Open document, we already... Government of India supported that. Already supported that one. That is present in the document. What does the document say about it? See unfortunately there is no such... So you are talking about what it says? Yes. Open document format, government already... Much before I think it is already... It is mentioned but it's not yet very popular. No, it's not popular but government of India supports that standard only. Not Microsoft. It was a fight. I was not at that time in government. It was a fight when I was ended up two, three years back and finally government of India was convinced that this is the format we should accept and they accepted that thing. It is there. It is written in the document and opensource.com magazine also put a big article on that one reviewing that policy. I sent that to the editor and they wrote a very good article. You can search on the opensource.com. The question is simple. Yes or no? Is the ODSK a national standard to India? I think it is. See if you talk about... Could you please search on that? I think it is because when the fight was going and a lot of articles were going it too... Can I add? See the problem is as it is with other countries also it has been mentioned but it is not mandatory yet. I mean a government still accepts other file formats. If it is not mandatory are they putting resources to help people to start using it? Is it just on paper somewhere or is it actually people being paid to promote it? We can write to you through mail and we can just research on the things because whatever I am telling I am a little bit confused that what finally concluded. But it was concluded in favor of open format but I am not sure. So better to... There is a message on our mailing list that says something similar. Of course the document is not in a language that I can understand but maybe it was Danishka that sent the message. I don't remember. About the ODF in India were you or someone... I don't remember... It's about the minutes of meeting from one of the... one of the state in India. That's the government of Maharashtra. It's in the marketing district if I am not wrong. We have to create... we have to create a repository of the different documents and laws because otherwise it's always on a memory of people and we are becoming crazy. We need a nice map which we color. Exactly. And the repository of the documents even if they are in language that we don't understand but 50 documents that say the same thing are impressive. Exactly. We will... We will work with Jyotsen and with to improve the website and provide... not the ODF to provide resources. Krishna? When the community come on board so we can see if the translation is there and the standard is given in the country so if something is missing we can focus on predicting that country. In India these guys are working hard on localization so if a particular thing is missing we can focus. We can improve that. There is a fantastic document done by the UK government that has been published recently that is really covering all the possible stuff how you should create the document and which I think we should make popular not just in that we should create a document that we can share with people. There is a strong contribution from the Netherlands. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But if the UK publishes that the Netherlands publishes that France it looks like is close to publishing something similar. Then of course we go to the fourth and say we are already doing it what about you? So this gives the answer to your question. Actually everything is I recently joined whatever I know everything is inclined towards open source open source everything we should be better recollecting these documents and sharing them. And that document is also mentioned what I referred in the slide that is mentioned that is huge document and you can see whole open source related things. This particular link ego standards.go.in We will have a look but I think it's important that we start sharing all this because of course this is part of the lobby I was saying before. If someone says something and you can send them a list of 50 documents that are 4 of the F it's going to be difficult to say that of open XML is the reference standard everywhere. Yes, even for I talked about field project it become the standard for terminology and style guide etc because it's open and it's open source available under different open source license. So there are apart from Microsoft glossies there are a whole lot of glossies there field project glossies become the style guide become the standard glossies for the government of India. Okay, so thanks everybody I think that we have a full discussion.