 Gov. Nasser El-Faiz raised the alarm of activities of Boko Ram and I swapped terrorism in Kaduna State. Will the situation get worse before it improves in the part of the country? Also on the breakfast, we'll be looking at the Confederation Cup Finals in our sports segment. And also, do you think Jose Pesiero is the right man for the Super Eagles job? Of course, as usual, we have the headlines of the pages of today's national dailies, all these ahead on the breakfast. Very good morning to you. Welcome to the breakfast and plus TV Africa. Merci. Looking quite dapper. It's been some time. Did you miss me? Yes, of course I missed you. It's good to have you back. Yes, and you're looking quite, I mean, it's like you went on a break yourself. No, I didn't. I haven't been on any break. I've been here all the time. All right. I also, I went on a stressful break. You know what I mean? I don't think you look stressful. You look good at yourself as well. All right. No, he doesn't need to do that. All right. Well, we set off with top trending conversations, generating different reaction in different spaces. And one of it is the fact that iPop has warned, you know, very renowned preacher, Kumui, Reverend Kumui as we all know him, WF Kumui. I hope I got that correctly. Not to go ahead with the planned crusade. And that has also gotten a lot of Nigerians talking about what's going on, especially, you know, in the South, eastern part of Nigeria. What do you make of this now? It feels like you have iPop giving the orders, becoming government of the day. Well, it's, it's, it's one of those things that you go, hey, nothing can surprise me anymore in the country. I mean, so let's see how it pans out. I mean, I'm very interested in seeing what comes out of this, you know, you know, they say power, past power, you know, I'm saying. So if the group has gone ahead to, to now determine who should hold a crusade in the South eastern states and who shouldn't, let's see, let's see what happens. You know, IPOB is not as, as, as popular as it used to be because of the role that unknown government have been playing. The group has recently in a couple of days ago come out, that's the latest one, to say that, oh, they do not know who these unknown government are, those who and who are enforcing the Monday sit at home are. So, so, you know, they're trying to distance themselves from the carnage going on in Amos state and most recently and sadly in Anambra state, which was very peaceful some, some, until some months ago. So to see that in my power for the media and publicity section of the group, it is faceless, I don't know who it is, probably is not his real name, has released a statement warning or cautioning a man of God, a preacher, as revered as WFKMU, who we were, we all were born to meet, you know, we just were born to, we grew up to hear about deeper Christian life ministries. Let's see how it plays out. I know that there are a lot of people from, in the deeper life, you know, church who are from the southeast and will this make the group less popular? Time will tell, you know, but the recent politics of the country has shown that you cannot, you know, downplay or, you know, you cannot, you cannot downplay the importance of the religious constituency in the political and social conversation in Nigeria, you know, you can't downplay that at all. That's why, you know, the political parties and the state governors try to massage the ego of the men of God in their states to try and, you know, get the members, you know, to support them. It's like IPOB going out in, you know, cautioning for Dambaka, you know, the grounds of support he has in the state. You have people who are from the southeast, who out of a passion, a genuine passion may have a sympathy for the IPOB method of agitation, okay? This may, may test that sympathy. It may test that sympathy. Even people who are not members of deeper life will have to also, you know, think about this because they'll say, ah, it's papa. It's papa. But, but let's also look at this on this side. Recently, you remember that the recently elected governor of Anambra State, Charles Ludo, paid a visit, I was going to say, courtesy visit. He visited Namdi Kano. He visited Namdi Kano, you know, in prison and part of the response from Namdi Kano is the fact that a lot of persons are masquerading, impersonating IPOB. So now it brings us back to the question whether or not this statement has been made by IPOB or you have persons impersonating IPOB. That's another one. But we hope that the authorities and those who have been sadded with their responsibility will do their due deleting. And that's the work of the police because I feel like over time the agency called the police has been relegated and they need to come back to where they should start from. That's on the one hand. But it's quite worrisome such a situation. You know, we've also been grappling with the situation of protests and the fact that you have the government responding in a certain way because if you have the police or the military reacting during protests, you ask yourself, do the people have a right to a peaceful assembly? And so it's really a dicey situation. Now you have IPOB saying that the reverend shouldn't have a crusade. Because of the security situation in the region, you know, in a place not being safe, you know. So on one side you have this, like you said, this statement cautioning the man of God. On the other side, look at the logic of what they're saying. Indeed, the security situation in the southeast is like my people in Kuala Lumpur say something to talk about. But who caused or who? Yes, yes. No, no, who even is responsible for what we're having now in the southeast? But maybe we should just forget about the cause and look at what we're having now, the effect. And they're saying you need to also be careful. We don't want anyone to die, you know, as a result of your crusade. You don't want anyone to be attacked. So what does that really mean? What does that really mean? Anybody die? Anybody being attacked? Because you can't also take out the fact that a lot has been happening. I mean, it leaves you to question. Namdi Kanu already is known as the leader. And if he has come out to say that persons are impersonating and masquerading themselves to be in iPop and carrying out some of these, you know, killings and attack, then there should be a lot of investigation. We should be worried about it. And that's that's it on the one hand. So the question now is, who is speaking? Is this really iPop? Yeah, in my powerful is it is IPOB. It is IPOB because it was signed by Imar powerful. And this is the communication channel that we know. But I'll just take a quote of what, you know, that statement said a brief sentence or two. It says called IPOB will not allow anyone to die because of this crusade scheduled to hold in ABBA. The operation of criminals operating as unknown gunman infiltrating events is high. And they will blame it on IPOB is what he's saying. That's why I went back to I started with that statement where IPOB distanced themselves from those and enforcing the Monday seat at home. So imagine they hold the event maybe the crusade goes into Monday, for instance, and then these guys try to force members of the church or those who want to go and get salvation. All right, who want to go and pray that God forgives their sins, or go to pray for peace in the southeast. They stop them on the way and start shooting them, start burning them, start beating them. He's afraid that the public will turn on IPOB. But it's interesting now, mercy that this group now are now trying to say, please don't hold an event or we don't want anyone to come and blame us if anything happens. But I mean, you see, that's why when you you use a method to achieve certain aims, you need to think about tomorrow and think about tomorrow. So students, a lot of persons are, I mean, people are impersonating the IPOB. That's what it means. This is what they're saying. Anyways, we need to move away from that. Also, on top trending this morning, you have the management of Ladoke Akintola University of Technology, Gwumoshur, directing members of staff and students of the institution to resume, I mean, activities on the 26th of May. This is contrary to the strike action that we know that ASU has embarked on over time. So it feels like someone has snitched or someone has been trained. But at what point did they come to this now? What could be responsible? First of all, when ASU embarked on that strike before the extension, a lot of people have queried the fact that ASU, you don't really have uniformity. Everyone is not speaking in the same voice. So you have different paths saying, okay, we're going to do this in different union. Apart from the fact that you have ASU, you also have the Nassu, Sanu and all of that. Are they in unison? But this is also another one that has called for a lot of concern. And people are beginning to wonder what exactly it is. Is it right that you have the university pulling out of the strike? It's quite interesting, Mercy. There was a protest in the school some days ago. So this is seen as an intervention from the school authorities to try and see how they can listen to the yearnings of the students. Ladukah Kintola Investing Technology is a Tessher Institute institution located in Gwomoche, your state. And the university arose about 30,000 students, 30,000 students, and has about 3,000 workers, including contract staff. So all these people are at home because of the strike. All these people are at home because of the strike. This school was formerly known as or your state university. So it's a state institution. And I'm sure we are aware of the differences in the salary structure and salary scheme and the conditions of work for federal university lecturers and state university lecturers. Now, the state university lecturers are obviously in the strike as a mark of solidarity for their colleagues and their comrades, let's call it that, at the federal level because they don't have the same issues. So it's quite interesting to see that a state-owned Tessher Institute in Nigeria is taking both steps to say, let's resume academic session. And the letter, you know, is interesting. It says resumption of 2021, 2022 academic session. So it shows how far behind we are. But I was looking at the comments on the comments of the students, you know, in response to the Twitter, the tweet by the school and the school's official Twitter account. And while somewhere, you know, celebrating and jubilating and saying it's great to be back, some were saying it's not happening. That the ASU in Lautech will not agree to such a move. So this is some of the dynamics. But this is a state-owned institution. And some are asking, does this imply that Lautech has pulled out of ASU? Because it is a union as a body. We don't have the ASU of private universities and ASU for public universities. We have only one ASU. So when they go for meetings to declare strike, they all go. You know, as I say, solidarity forever, solidarity together, you know, and one for all for one. Yes, this is unfortunate. So if Cross River State University, which you and I know well, Crutech, or River State University, which is on the best run universities in this country, if we can pay all the university lecturers their salaries, you know, the way you're saying the week is week and does everything, or a day who is doing so well, pays the university. Can we not all know why you're laughing, all their salaries, they will still stay at home because of solidarity. This is the the situation we find ourselves in, unfortunately. So I like I would always say, I don't know why we have to stay at this position when we constantly professed education is the bad rock of every nation. I don't know who's right. I don't know who's wrong, but it doesn't even make any sense. Because if you look at the reality, you have the lecturers, salaries are still going. Salaries haven't been stopped. So they're being paid. Government is having a great time. You have politicians, politicking, buying tickets for 100 million Nair, whether or not they're going to become a flag bearer, nobody cares. And then I don't get why people are always talking about politicians. And then put it as a strike. And it's people's private money. So it's private money. We're just saying that these things would happen. Everybody is having a great time with your lives. These are stakeholders. You can't take them out of the equation. With my hundred million and I want to contest. How is as a strike my problem? No, so let Kofi, let's get to this. Should it a private political party, go and use this money to stop government for them? For instance, you have Chris Ngige, who is vying to become, I mean, apart from the fact that he's resigned and probably dropped his interest and not wanting to become. These are the consents. We're saying that they are stakeholders. For every time you say that you have a stakeholder, whether or not they have a direct- How much is it as you're asking for? Whether or not you have a direct interest or not a direct interest. What we're saying is it consents us. Now, usually with policy formulation and policy implementation, you don't have to have direct, you know, you don't have to become the president. You don't have to be at the forefront of it to ensure that it happens. It should consent all of us. If we say that Nigeria is our business and developing this country is our business, we can relegate. We can step away and say it's not my business because I'm not because this is stakeholders. So it's okay that we're waking up and saying we're doing this. Nobody's saying it's not your private money. They can spend all of that. And also nobody's also not saying that. I want to understand what you're saying. What I'm saying is that at the end of the day, you have as one strike and the people who are suffering, you have the student. At the end of the day, they have nothing else to do. Some of them, we already talked about the academic session and the calendar. If you look at it, they're already behind shadow. They're already behind time. And so everybody's having a great time. Not necessarily that it should be. Yes, everybody's having a great time. The politicians are having a great time. They are also part of the system. You also have the lecturers who are having a great time. Their salaries were coming. So who's suffering? That's exactly what was. So are you saying that maybe if I'm a minister in federal government that has failed to resolve the ASU or come to an agreement with ASU? And I want to run for political office. As she said, oh, ASU's money has not been given to them. Students are still at home. Let me stay back and rest my ambition and not spend this my money for now until it's solved. No one is saying that anybody should rest the ambition, but everybody's saying that we're all part of the system. Now we are a system. Whether or not you like it, whether or not you want to agree is a system. And so in systems, you have different units. We're together as a system. Nigeria is a system. We're a whole. And we're all part of the institution and the structure. And so you have the fact that you always have those who make policies. You have those who influence policies. And this is part of the chain of command. And you cannot take them away. We're all saying that at what point of the other, you might directly not be responsible. It might not be within your poor view to call the shots. But it's also within your jurisdictions. And so if we say that we have people who influence policies, decisions are taken. And sometimes you have the likes of Dangote who don't necessarily have to blink an eyelid and things would happen because of who they have become over time. And that's what we're saying. We're just saying that for the betterment of the Nigerian system, for the betterment of Nigeria, then we need to pay attention. It's a collective situation. Everybody can constantly say it's more like saying, oh, it's not my business. I'm not the minister of education. It's not my business because I'm not the one I'm not asked to. What was my business? I've heard you, Mercy. I think there is a there's a heard sort of like opinionism in the country today that people express. It's called a populist opinion and well-intentioned but not critical. It's just like when the the minister of state for education also picked the form and people say, ah, how can you begin form when there's a strike? It's for me, I didn't see the logic in that, you know, because there is it's it's more complicated than that. You know, it's more complicated than that. However, I understand and when yourself and others are looking at it from maybe a moral point of view, you said it's a system and all that. But people are free to decide what they want. It's just like people screaming blue murder when they had 100 million Naira. You know, it my brain's almost blower because 100 million Naira is not much these days. And if you want to look at the dollar rate or exchange for that 100 million Naira, this is the lowest or lower than APC collected from its members in 2019. 100 million Naira ain't money today. You know, so, you know, some of these arguments, I know it's it's it's dangerous when when media person like myself tries to tell the public, you know, you're not you're not getting it. You know, we miss I think. So at the end of the day, you can't tell people, you know, so I don't bring the ASUS striking. So why can't we buy 100 million Naira from when it's that's right. That's not the point. The point here is you have everybody having a great time. So the truth. No, I cited an example and I said that in all of this everybody's having a great time. You could be probably there, you know, having everything working for you, going about your holiday. It's none of your business. What I'm trying to say is that in in all of this confusion that's going on and the fact that you're having the back and forth with ASU and they're not agreeing with the government, is that you have a group of persons in the middle who don't even have anything to do. I mean to this other side, the people who are on this other side of the divide is ASU. Salary is going on. This other side, they have a right to do whatever they want to do. They can buy their forms. They're having a good time. They're achieving their visions. But you have people who are still writing. Do you also know that 1.7 million Nigerians have actually purchased the form to write? Yeah, I agree. Can you just give me your time? We're not saying the strike is... No, no, but what I'm also trying to say is that you have these people. And so you also have people that up until now, even the Ladoquia University that's come about Kintola, saying they want to go back, is that they want to start 2000, you know, 2021, 2021 academic session when we're in 2022. So my point here is everybody is having a great time, but nobody cares about the student. It's just simple. And nobody's saying is anybody's right. But we know that in the, you know, in the entire process of the policy formulation, you would still have some persons, you would still have some interest. And we can't fold their hands and say, oh, it's not necessarily our business. We constantly call the president for things that doesn't even concern the president, not within his poor view. You have agencies who should be responsible, but these agencies don't take responsibility. And then we, you know, we hit the blame on the president. Should that be the case? We're saying that it's a collective responsibility. We can really get that. We can throw our arms and say that's what it is. But of course, you have a right to, you know, buy a form of 100 million dollars, you know, go wherever it is, go on a holiday, as long as you can achieve it. There's nobody's problem. It's not your business. I understand what you're coming from. I was even saying, when people were complaining and shouting, ah, how can they set their money for the, for the reform? And I said, see, there are 18 political parties in Nigeria. And the political parties are private, you know, the associations that anyone can join or refuse to join. And so why, I mean, if you don't, you don't agree with, with the modus operandi or the methods or the way a particular party is doing their things. Why, for Scott's sake, are you there? You can go or move your support to another group. Even if you can vote against them, you say, I disagree with your view. Correct. That's absolutely. You know, so anyway, let's, let's move on. But I think the important point we are making is that the university is calling its students back and we'll see if the lecturers who heed to this, this call to be interesting to see the lecturers who go back to classroom because last time we checked like someone said on Twitter, Laotek has not pulled out of ASU. So let's see how it goes. But this is the unfortunate situation, you know, we find ourselves in. All right, time to move on. And of course we have one last story. President Mahmoud Buhari has departed to Abu Dhabi on a condolence visit. I saw a picture of the president. It's an official picture, a black and white picture of him looking out of his, his, his air force, his, his private jet window or the presidential jet window. And it was quite interesting. Some Nigerians are, you know, talking about this, why the president is, is traveling on a condolence visit. You know, his, his travels are well documented. Mercy. And this isn't a new culture or a new thing for the president to do to travel outside of the country. And then people will be asking questions and all that. He's also going to, to Abu Dhabi to meet the new president of that country. His Highness Sheikh Muhammad bin Zayed Al-Nayan. While in the Arab nation, like we said, he's going to condo, convey his condolence message or condolences on the passing on of ex-president and ruler of Abu Dhabi. His Highness Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al-Nayan. Abu Dhabi is one of the Emirates. You have the United Arab Emirates as a country or as a nation, but the components you have Abu Dhabi being one that is a capital of the United Arab Emirates. And then the popular Dubai that we all love to go to is also there. But people do not know, most of all do not know the thing that Dubai is a capital of the UAE. Abu Dhabi actually is the capital of the UAE. So they have a new president and our president is headed there to meet with him. That's the, the major reason for his, his trip. And while he's there, he'll also be con, conveying his condolences on the passing on of the ex-ruler and ex-president of, of Abu Dhabi. Well, that hasn't really, you know, sit well with a lot of Nigerians because you have conversations saying, why would the president even travel when you have a lot of situation going on in the country? But should the president travel? Does he have a right to travel? I mean, what is it traveling for? These are some of the questions we need to answer, but that's the size of our conversation this morning on top trending. We'll definitely return on Monday with more interesting just making the rounds in different spaces. We'll take a breakdown. Now when we return, it will be time for us to look at the front pages of National Dailies. I am a messy bobo and Coffee Battles is back on the show. Good morning.