 And so he was walking towards us like we got a distance though He was walking towards us and for whatever God showed me that he he did something with his hand And I seen that he ain't have nothing in his hand. So I start busting out Oh You what were you from carp? Was it the carp screw? I was born in a town called Tav, Texas. Okay, right? I lived in a small town called Aransas past Texas I went to kindergarten First grade Second grade and then moved to a town called Bay City, Texas And went to third grade and then moved to a town called vanver leg, Texas And went from fourth grade to 11th grade And this my senior year I left vanver leg, Texas and moved to houston And went to north shore and channel view for my senior year and I quit school My 12th grade year the second semester So but when you're dealing with all when you're dealing with all of these small towns No, y'all want to know it all right? But when you deal with all these small towns that you're talking about How bad was racism in these small towns because one thing I know about Texas That's where you mainly had all of that was in them small towns You really don't pick up on racism until It's like affecting What you're trying to produce or pursue Okay, some some people don't pick up on racism like because They content with their life not being nothing. So did you experience it racism? Yes, I've experienced racism. Yeah Tell me about an instance where it was blatant in your face. I was driving me and my kind of folk I'm the oldest one. I'm the driver I'm the driver and the damn shooter at this point Because we're on our way to corvus Some white boys pulled up beside us and was like fuck the niggas fuck the niggas And I was like what are y'all serious and I'm scared turner and just I'm young then and it didn't take nothing for me to just zoom don't say And it's I zoomed and I've turned and I followed them This was an engelside, Texas And they pulled they turned on the little country road I turned on the country road behind them They stopped about maybe 50 feet ahead start getting out their car I stopped told my cousin. Hey y'all stand behind this door because I'm strapped And there wasn't I don't know if there was or not But the one of the white dudes got out with his hand behind his back The other dudes was getting out too, but I'm just paying attention to him really because it's him because his hand behind his back And so he was walking towards us like we had a distance though He was walking towards us And for whatever God showed me that he he did something with his hand and I seen that he didn't have nothing in his hand So I started busting at him And didn't hear them. I don't know That's the way it be like we you know, uh, yeah that really and and and that ain't nothing but uh a part of what Happens when you get out of line With some real, you know, we young so I get where you come from because I've been there So, you know, you don't wait to see When you when something like that go on either most of the time you move around And you move around quick because you know, these white boys in the first play But you say you don't know but then I don't think when you start shooting at somebody They go you go either see them fall or you're gonna see some not necessarily because I'm at a we had a distance at a distance Right. So I'm shooting and it's multiple and he didn't shoot back because he didn't have a gun. It's multiple of them Right. I'm no wonder. Did anybody shoot back? You could hear anything? No They was portraying like they had something. Did you jump in a car and drive off after that? Yeah, I told my cudd like man, we I we I didn't have time to study the situation. Okay Just asking And I've seen them get to one of them could have got here. I don't know Man, it wasn't reported on the news. No homicide. No, none of that wasn't no It was just happening in the broad day with us and some white dudes But you know, that's a part of what goes on sometimes in the south, man You know a lot of times in those days it was going down now They're not as blatant with it, but it still goes on, you know Uh in a precipitated fashion