 I don't know if we still have them or not, but it said Pluto on it and it said revolving piece. Revolving, oh, oh that's good. Actually Griffith has a few good shirts that I kinda like. Yeah, there's some solid ones every once in a while. No, you know what they have that are really great? Are the Christmas, ugly sweater, like solar system shirts are usually pretty good, but they're not actually ugly sweaters, at least the ones that I've seen. They're like sweat shirts with a pattern. Yes. Yeah, I wish they actually had like the four realsies ugly Griffith sweater. It's something to strive to. I mean, I would love to make my ugly space shuttle Christmas sweater for realsies one day. You have one? Perfect, yeah. Would it be like in your mind or like? It's one that I bought at the Griffith and it's got the pattern on it. Oh, I see what you're saying. Make it from the not real sweater into a real sweater. Yes. Got it. That would be pretty sweet. What's yours, so we saw Ryan's shirt. Pluto, what's the bottom say again? Never forget. Never forget. I love that one. What's your shirt say? Mine just says Boards of Canada, which is my favorite band. Ah. So some cool stuff. Well, Pluto is here. I like this music, it's good stuff. But Pluto is here. Pluto is here. So it's really hard to be Pluto, I gotta say, so. You know. Yeah, Pluto was the star of the show for so long. Was it? Yeah, still is, still kinda is in some respect. I kind of go back and forth as to whether it actually should be a planet again, because I grew up with it as a planet, and so I feel like yeah, it should be a planet, but then it's weird. It's just weird, right? Because it's circling its moon, but there's so much grad, it's so small, and this moon is so large that they tug on each other and they've got this weird elliptical orbit around each other. Yeah, they were a common point. Yeah, exactly. But that's above the surface of Pluto. We call that a berry center. Right, so it doesn't have enough mass to keep its own moon in its own central orbit, right? Like the, or, so, but then, but then, but then, hold up. Doesn't Earth move a little bit based on? Yeah, Earth does that too, but our berry center is not above the surface of the Earth. Exactly, like our, yeah. Earth is displaced, I think it's something like, gosh, what is it, it's like 600 kilometers or something? Yeah, 600 to 700 kilometers? That's still quite a bit. It is. Yeah, sure, but like it's still. Clearly Earth and the moon are a binary planet system. Yes, so. Okay, okay, let's piss some people off and keep going with this train of thought, shall we? Pluto's also a binary planet, so. Okay, so Earth and the moon are binary planets and Pluto, Plutoid is a binary planet. Yeah. Plutorus. Yes, Plutorus. I forget its moon's name, which is why I keep referring to it in this moon. Sharon. Sharon, thank you. One of its moon's names. I'm like, Enceladus, no, Enceladus, no. Enceladus, no. Pluto and Karen. Pluto and Karen, exactly, Pluto and Karen. But it's got four other moons as well, so you can't forget those, right? Karen's children. Nyx, Hydra, Kerberos, and Styx. Yeah, but it's, it's, what'd you say? What, oh, I missed something. Dada, what'd you get? I was laughing because you just rattled off the names of the planets of the moons. Yeah, well, I know them, so why would I not rattle them off? I'm just saying. So, Pluto is a fun planet, straight, sick, striatic. Striatic. Striatic. Pluto is a fun planet, and it's just, it's funky. It doesn't, it doesn't like to play like the other planets. It's not like all the other planets. It's really weird. It's a little off-kilter. The moon is a planet, changed my mind. A pattern of chaos. Oh, I don't have the chat room up. That's a great one, though. No, this is, this is, oh no. Oh, because I'm in hosts. That's why. So, speaking of planets. And Molly's correct on that, by the way. Molly, wait, Molly's saying that. So, the moon is a planet, did you take that to Aramistit? Yes. Okay, and then there's this one, which is, Sharon, what, the boatman across the river sticks mythology. Yes. I don't know that mythology. What is the? Well, if you're gonna go to the underworld, do you have to first cross the river sticks in order to get there? What if I just don't wanna go to the underworld? I don't know enough about mythology to make that determination. I don't know if anybody was able to do that. So, maybe. Maybe. I am sailing. Cool. So, we banished that band all the way out there. We said no sticks, sorry guys. The algorithm. So, speaking of planets, we found some stuff on the other one, the Mars planet. What the? Jamie, you got to get a little more specific. Hang on, hold up, hang on, hang on. We found some stuff on the other one. It's been a long week, like there's, it's been a long week, that's not fair. My brain is broken. I'm wearing green. Whatever, this is new information, how? I need more green stuff, because I'm running out of green things to wear in the control room day after day. I'd say that cyan at best, that is not green. It has green undertones to it, you're not, it's in the green family. I'm wearing green. You're wearing more green than I am. We're very green show today. Oh, it's up for you, you didn't get the memo Pluto. I'm blue. So, Mars. Yes, found some interesting stuff there. What'd we find? We found the leftovers of Perseverance's landing system, or some of the leftovers of Perseverance's entry, descent and landing. That's part of the sky cream. Well, I suppose it's above this. No, it's before this guy, is the back shell or the front shell, the top shell? We found the back shell in the parachute. We knew where it was because of imagery from one of the spacecraft we have in orbit around Mars called Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. But we were kind of flying ingenuity around and they realized that if they wanted to fly in ingenuity to keep it with Perseverance, they could potentially like overfly where the back shell and the parachute were at and they just basically were like, let's do it. So let's, and this is some of the photos that they took. That's on Mars. That is on Mars. My favorite, one of my favorite bits about it is in the bottom left corner is ingenuity shadow as it's flying. Wait, can you embiginate that data? Like, I got big, huge bright lights here so it's hard for me to tell. Oh, no, you can't. It's one of those sites. Lomp, lomp. Yeah, but it kind of looks like... Open image and new tabs. We're watching him troubleshoot this live on the air. This is how I save all my NFTs. Oh, so that little smudge on the lower left, the dark bit. Yeah, and actually, it's called a shadow. It's a technical term. Thanks, Dada, that's great. It's a shadow. It's just reflected off of some swamp gas from the light of Venus. But yeah, I really love this because it looks like something from a science fiction movie. It does. Like, oh, I crashed my spaceship on another planet. Now I have to spend... It's like a crashed UFO or something. Yeah, wait, this is way into the Earth. It really does. Let's get their hands on this. Is this Roswell, but on Mars instead? And then the Martian government's gonna be like, no, there's no humans. It was just an experiment. I love that the parachute's there too. It's just like, hey guys, don't forget about me. There's so much detail in the picture you can actually see all of the parachute lines. Yep. Can you imbibe any more? Like, it's hard to... I mean, there's only so much resolution in this photo. Okay, well, then I guess there's not that much detail, then is there, Dada? Oh, actually, no, I can see it even from here. Wow. And you can kind of see where they have been as well. So you can see where the wind has kind of like moved the parachute. That's kind of impressive when you think about it because there's not a lot of wind. Like, well, I shouldn't say a lot of... There's not a lot of air. There's not a lot of oomph to the wind. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. But it still is enough to move parachutes. We've seen other parachutes from other landing systems from vehicles on Mars. It was literally a flying saucer. It actually was literally a flying saucer. Yeah, once perseverance in the sky crane detached, it was, I don't know if I call it a flying saucer, but it was definitely a falling saucer. It was a crashing saucer. It was a falling saucer, that's for sure. Probably hit the surface at somewhere around 400 kilometers an hour somewhere in that region. So litho-breaking is like using earth. Litho is like earth, right? So you couldn't say litho-breaking on Mars, could I? It's airy-breaking. Airy-breaking? I guess. Or regolitho-breaking. Regolitho-breaking. We're bringing that one back. Airy's regolitho-breaking. It's so cool-looking. Now, what I want to know is, is someone going to go to JPL and give them a ticket, a fine for littering on Mars? I mean, should we do that? Should we just show up to JPL and be like, hi, I've got a, you need to pick up your trash? I've had conversations about it, to that effect on Facebook. Yeah, yeah. What's the consensus? It was just me and one person back and forth and they were complaining about JPL littering. Yeah. Well, this is why we need to send humans to Mars so we can go pick up the trash. Exactly. My argument was just to declare it a historical site, and then it's not trash, it's a monument. Yes. No, that's kind of cool. That's a good idea. Although the radiation's going to rip that thing apart over time, isn't it? Question mark? Yeah, probably. Yeah. Yeah, the materials it's made out of, that it will, radiation will degrade. What is it made out of? Is it carbon composites? I imagine. Yeah, probably. Or aluminum, honeycomb. Yeah, it's just not gonna happen and well. So this is just me, like armchair engineering, reverse engineering, I guess. Like looking at the way it cracked, that looks to me more like carbon composites than it looks like a honeycomb. I feel like it wouldn't have, it would have more not cracked like that if it were a honeycomb. No, you can put aluminum, honeycomb, in a sandwich between carbon composites. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, okay, sure. But I think the primary material we're looking at there, that's cracked as a carbon composite. Yeah. Okay, cool. And just remember, you could stick a mini Cooper under that just for scale. Really? You know, I can't stick a banana here for scale, unfortunately. Well, can you still stick a mini Cooper under it after it's been pancake like that? Well, if you have the mini Cooper under it to also pancake the mini Cooper, yes. Little known fact, there is actually a mini Cooper smushed underneath it. That's it. We just need to send humans to go reveal the mini Cooper underneath the back shell. Yeah, if you wanna see it, just go there and lift it up. Are we gonna go search for, what's the range on the Mars Acopter? Oh, the Mars Acopter? Yeah. I think it's the- What would you call, like, come on, it's gotta have a cooler name. Ingenuity. No, no, cooler name. No, come on, Ingenuity's pretty sick. I mean, is it though? I'm with you. When you say ingenuity, do you think, oh, Mars Helicopter, or do you think, like, human trait? I mean, nah, yeah. Yeah, human trait. Yeah, human trait. No, it's not cool enough. No, Mars Acopter is way cooler than Ingenuity. No, it's not. Oh, yeah, it is. All right, hold on. If we're gonna give it- Hang on, hang on. No, we're voting in YouTube. No, no, no. No, hold on, hold on, hold on. If we're giving it a new name, it can't be Mars Acopter. It's gotta be something like really, really cool, okay? Copter, mic, copter, face? Okay, so first of all, stop. No, no, no, we gotta figure this out. All right, give me one. Give me, all right, chat room ready, go. I'm gonna start typing in, so the poll is- I don't know. Yeah, Mars Acopter, all right. So, ingenuity, or Mars Acopter. Cube Seticopter. Now I'm just gonna say, I'm just gonna do those two. So we've started a poll on YouTube for those of you watching live on the main channel, not in the member channel, I apologize. It just went live. Vote now for ingenuity or Mars Acopter, but it's a background name. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Mars Acopter, but it's a background name. Oh, no. A classroom aerial reconnaissance. Smoke scale, where's smoke scales? This is a good one. Call it a class one drone, because that sounds like Star Trek. That's pretty good, but like, it's still, okay, so we'll let the vote go for a moment. Shouldn't we be on like class four by now? Sure or something. So we'll let the vote go for a moment. And Mars Acopter was winning for a hot minute. Now it's flipped around and ingenuity is winning. Although Mars Acopter is catching back up. I'm just gonna throw this out there because we try to keep things typically like named appropriately for where they are. So like, if we're gonna talk about Mars mythology, why not like Remus or something like that, which is one of the, I don't know. One of the twin sons of Aries. You're getting very, very deep. Yeah, I am because you have to, dada. Here's my fundamental question. Coptor MacCopter face. That's his new, that's his new name. Coptor MacCopter face. So it's the first in a long line of Mars Acopters. Yeah, okay. For those of you who are voting for ingenuity, you're dead to me. So for the Mars Acopter. Why is it? Because it's winning or? Yeah, it is winning right now. Barely, it's 52% to 48% with ingenuity in the lead. So my question to you is, how far can the Mars Acopter go? Specifically, there was the, I would love to see the rover that they may have not done, or not the rover, it was a lander where they accidentally didn't do the conversion, the metric English conversion. I don't remember its name. The other regolith of breaking. The other, yeah. The one that we did not have the intentional regolith of breaking. Yes, the accidental regolith of breaking. I don't remember its name, but like it would be really cool. And I don't know how close it is to where they are right now, but like wouldn't it be cool if we could see that? Like the aftermath of that one? And we love, a spirit and pathfinder are gone, right? Like they're- They don't function, but they're still there. Well, that's what I mean. Like wouldn't it be cool if we could go see them too? Like go visit. They'd be pretty sick. I want to take the Mars Acopter. Mars Acopter out for a spin. Whatever we're calling it now. Yeah, the Mars Acopter. Take Copter Macopter face over one of them and hover over the solar panels and blow all the dust off so we can get them out like functionally again. That's an interesting idea. That is literally every comment section after the first couple of flights of ingenuity last year. People were just like, well just have a fly over to the, you know, to the trap to have them blow it off. You want to get spirit and opportunity back? Just go like this. Yeah, cause that's, you know, that's how that works. Did you bring up Murray's comment? It should be called Aerocopter after Aries. That would be a very proper way to do it. I know, but it doesn't have the same something. I will say that the chat for Hot Minute, Mars Acopter is winning right now. I'm just saying, I should end the poll right now so I win. That's how I should do that right now. So longest flight, and I did look at that. I don't know off the top of my head, but longest flight for ingenuity, Mars Acopter. Ingenuity Mars Acopter, I accept. Okay, I'll accept that too. 700 meters, roughly. At a time. Yes, 700 meters at a time. But does it need, does it need to go back to home base? Like does it need, okay, and it's got its own like MRO uplink or how does that work? It does need to stay within line of sight of perseverance, relative line of sight of perseverance. We fly the ingenuity Mars Acopter and it hops, right? And then it recharges, I assume, and then it hops and recharges. And so we just have, what do we have behind it? Pathfinder? Perseverance. Perseverance, sorry. Perseverance just like chasing behind it, trying to keep like, I can still see you. It's fine. Not really like chasing behind it. I'm sorry, you're right. This is Mars. So it's like. Mars. Mars. Mars. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I took that like a little bit too far. That's okay. It's your show and it can be as awkward as it needs to be. So, just all of the awkward. Well, I mean, you know, perseverance has been doing some epic drives of late too. That whoever, the drive team for perseverance, they're cranking out like three to 350 meter long drives. I mean, they're just like hauling right now. I was reading the other day, one of the guys leading the mission is basically like, yeah, we're not stopping to look at rocks at the moment. We just, we're just trying to get to where the science is. Isn't there science in the rocks? Or like, okay, so dumb questions. Why are we still driving so far? Why did we, why are we so far away from the science area? Gotcha. Landing zone wasn't good for landing? No, no, not safe for landing. Safe to drive across, but unknown if you will for how well it could land. So, and perseverance. What's the difference? I feel like the landing would be much more and small inated than trying to drive really far, right? Like, you just need to hit a target on a remote planet. It's not that hard. I'm making this sound easy. It's a piece of cake. Why don't you, why don't you just put up buoys? Just put up buoys. Yeah, just put some buoys out there. So, you don't want to contaminate your science site by landing gases. I would say that's one, definitely don't want to do that. Two, the area that they want to study is a delta, a former delta, and I don't mean the airline. I mean, where water would flow out from a very big river and into an ocean. I bet you meant like a delta too, which would be a former delta. No, that actually would be a former delta as well. And one very close to my heart. I know. And I might cry a little bit, cry every time I think about it. But they don't want to land there because the terrain is relatively difficult, you know? It's like some parts of it are like, I don't want to say cliffs, but they're definitely like vertical hills or something. I don't know, I'm not a geologist, so. I don't know what they're called. Scarps or something? That's a good point. Reason three, the rover costs $2.7 billion, right? It's a little expensive. Yeah, you don't want to break it. Hey, you could get nearly like two thirds of an SLS for that. Oh, wow. I thought you liked SLS. I agree. Bring it in the snark, bring it in the snark. You can't defend that cost though. No, you really. Well, I mean, some people do on the Twitter birds. Yeah, it turns out, are any of those people here? No. And you know what? They're wrong. Yeah, yeah, it's all right. But yeah, it's all about making sure that you land in a safe spot and that you also land somewhere where you don't contaminate with potential propellant. You don't want to blast your science area with a bunch of hydrazine. That makes sense. It's usually not good. That makes a ton of sense. But actually, one of the things I really want them to do with ingenuity is. How would you tell if you're blasting it? Like, you can't see the orange cloud, you're already on an orange planet. You'd just be like, is that Martian soil or hydrazine? I'm not sure. Well, you would be able to analyze it in the instruments that are on board and be able to find it. How would you know if you can breathe it in or not? Well, I mean, first of all, I don't think you're gonna be breathing. These are the real questions, aren't they? I don't think you're gonna be breathing in atmosphere on Mars. Aren't you? It's just a thought of mine. So. I mean, technically you could. They just wouldn't be very useful. That's true. You could maybe inhale. You could take your helmet off for a second or two. You can do it, but not for long. Yeah. 10, 15 seconds. It would pass out. I wonder if someone will do that in the future. I hope not. Right, like, they're just like, open the airlock real quick. Jackass, 32. I mean, like, is someone, I feel like someone might try this in the very distant future. We gotta get there first, but like, yeah. Yeah. Sounds like a terrible idea. Not me, not me. Why are we manifesting this? What we do, what we do. All right. The launch pad has got this, oh yeah, no, I'm putting it on. Wait, I got it there. Who will the first person be the first person trying to be Chad? Exactly. That's exactly right. That's going to happen. Like, it happens here. You know what's gonna happen on the moon and on Mars, too. All right, I'm sorry. I completely derail this. No, it's good. The 15th time. No, it's good. TikTok's new hydrazine challenge. Oh, God. I don't manifest that. Oh, hydrazine challenge. Oh, God, no, no, no. Don't, that's bad because all four of us probably know some several people who could do a hydrazine challenge. So that's the bad thing about it. So yeah, by the way, kids watching, don't do a hydrazine challenge. No, no. So yeah. Don't try this at home. No, we don't. Don't try it. How about ever? Don't try it at work. Don't try it at home. Just don't try it. Yeah. Yeah, we don't recommend it. Companies, too. We don't recommend doing the hydrazine challenge. So, with things like that. So, but yeah, that was so cool. Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like they're going to fly an ingenuity over where the sky crane flew off to splat on the surface of Mars. Why? Because it's a little bit. I want to see the sky crane splat. I want to see it, too. I want to see it, too. We should do that. But it sounds like they're not going to do it because it's opposite direction. From my understanding, it's opposite direction. Who cares? They're flying right now, so. Go do it anyhow, because look at how many. I feel like, I saw this on the Tweety Birds first, right? So, because I'm required to use the Tweety Birds now. So, too soon? Not soon enough, I'm not sure. So, can you talk about that? That's your corporate. No, probably not. That's your corporate communications platform, now. Everything I do is in DMs now. What was I saying? Oh, no, they got a lot of really great positive press from this of like, oh my god, look at this. How cool is this? Yes. Don't you think you'd want some more additional? I know, I know, you've got to do the science. Like, I'm not saying don't do the science, but if you can do both, why wouldn't you do both? I mean, it sounds like a good thing to me, but at the same time, apparently, it's all about balancing risk, right? So, you've got to balance risk, and that's what they're doing. And you see something really funny in the chat room. That's why I'm looking at the appropriate. You know, I probably shouldn't have brought that to air, but I don't really care. It's funny. Daddy, what is? This is an adult show tonight. All right. Probably not the first time that's been thought of either. Oh, god. Oh, god. Oh, no. There's a title of the show. No. All right. You know what? I am going to copy and put in the document. Oh, god. This is a legitimate contender. Oh. Legitimate contender. No. Can we not? Yeah. Okay. Cool. Smoke scale. Oh, please. We're all children. Go on the screen. There we go. There we go. So we're not going to go backwards. We're not going to see the sky crane. Womp, womp. Somebody brought up a good point, though. You can do a lot of reverse engineering by examining these photos. How overbuilt was that structure? Maybe you could make it lighter the next time and put more science in instead. Good call. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Destructive engineering, if I recall correctly, right? Yeah. That's the ultimate destructive testing. Yes. Destructive testing. So very, very cool. I shouldn't be bringing these to air, but I can't have anyhow. Break your eyes. Break your eyes. Don't look. Don't look. Ryan earmuffs. Oh, boy. Well, that was a weird and awkward ending to that. Check out our only fan. Are we doing anything else cool on Mars with the Ingenuity Mars account? Well, nothing that we can speak about in front of children, at least, apparently. Because that's the theme today. Not just continuing to fly it, so making it. I think that was the 26th flight of Ingenuity. Oh, wow. So it's so good. And also, I just want to give a shout out to the Ingenuity team because they did win the Collier Trophy as well, which is the big award in aerospace that you can win. It's basically like the top award. For what? For being ingenuous. Yeah, being ingenious. But it's basically like the, how would I describe it? It's not like a lifetime achievement award, but it's basically like this has been one of the most forward-thinking projects of the year or something like that. I mean, it seems good. We're flying a helicopter on Mars. And now it's opened up this idea that we are going to start having these aerobots on missions when we can take them. The aerobots. Yeah. The Martian Aerobot. That's the new name. Martian Aerobot. Yeah. I know JPL is already working on basically like a ingenuity, but like with almost 20 times the payload capacity on it. So. Yeah. It's not like, it's a pretty large drone, but it doesn't have a lot of payload capacity, right? Because like there's not a lot of air. There's not a lot of ability to create lift. Yeah. Yeah. Ingenuity's, the body of it at least is roughly the size of this table. Wow. And I know the drone that JPL is looking at right now, the rotors on it are going to be something like one and a half times the size of this table. Wow. And to get it to fly. And it's going to be an octocopter kind of kind of configuration with it there. Do they need an FAA license to fly that on Mars? I feel like, because there's drone regulations here, right? So. It turns out no. There's actually minimal FAA regulation on Mars. Hold on a sec. Let me, just none. Oh, that's interesting. Oh, that's interesting. That's why they can litter everywhere. Yeah. So I can just put whatever they want, wherever they want. Whenever they want. Same on the moon. Same on Venus. I'm trying to bring that to air, but I hit the wrong thing. This is what we're laughing at. You need really big rotors to fly a lunar helicopter. That's true. Like the lunar copter. Actually, Launchpad is saying, Perseverance-sized ingenuity. Oh, that's an interesting idea. They are going to fly something big as a part of the Dragonfly mission out to Titan, which is going to get there in the 2030s. That's going to be the size of a car. They could James Webb Space Telescope unfold those rotors. Right? Just kind of have them like flop out to get double the size. Yeah. Actually, I'm not sure how they're going to deploy the rotors, but I know that basically it's going to be a standard entry descent. And then landing will not be under a retro propulsion because Titan's atmosphere is thicker than the Earth's atmosphere is. So they'll actually just deploy the rotors once they come off of the back shell and fly it down to the surface. It'll be an entry descent hover? I'm not sure what they're going to call it. We're talking like 15 years away from it doing that. Entry descent and if you land, you failed. Yeah. All right. Anything else from you? I was just going to say James Webb got very close to final alignment finally. You're still talking about this thing? Yeah. Because it's still going. It's still going. And the amazing thing is not only are they like not, they're very close to final alignment, but even now where they're still like a little bit off from everything, it's exceeded even the most optimistic expectations of what they thought it was going to be able to do. So it's like the opposite of what happened when they spun up Hubble? Yes. Completely opposite of what happened. It's almost like all that money went somewhere and actually worked. They said they learned their lesson. They apparently learned their lesson. Yeah. Yeah. Although they fixed Hubble. They did really great things. They've done remarkable things with Hubble. Yeah. And Hubble kind of changed everything. And that's what we're hoping with James Webb that it once again changes everything. How about you, Ryan? What were you excited about in aerospace this week? I was really excited that speaking of the FAA on Mars, they have pushed the environmental review for Starbase again by month, which isn't that surprising, but it's also kind of like there's a load of things that need to be sorted in order to get the first orbital flight going. And this is another thing that's going to be happening later. But, you know, these things don't happen quickly. It's just personally, I prefer it if they could just be like, it'll be done in three months rather than it'll be done in a month. And then a month later, it'll be done in a month. And then a month later, it'll be done in a month. It's just kind of like, I'd rather a big delay than little delays every single time it gets near to the deadline. Yeah. I was kind of reading things and how they were going earlier today. And I noticed that there was a lot of criticism being leveled at the FAA for constantly having to delay things. But ultimately, you know, regulatory work is what you end up having to deal with in aerospace. They don't do anything quickly. Yeah. And they don't do anything quickly. Or willy-nilly. Especially after the Boeing 737 MAX stuff that came out about that they are now most certainly not going to be doing anything quickly because of that, because that microscope is under them. And people want them to move fast, and people also want them to be safe about things too. And you really can't like, you know, do both at the same time. It's really tough to be fast and safe at the same time. So, yeah, it's just, this is just how things work. And it's how it's worked in the industry in the past and it's how it's worked right now. And maybe at some point in the future, once lots of people are flying, we can maybe work on that and kind of fix that. But yeah, it's, it is nothing out of the ordinary of what we've seen in the past. This isn't special. This is something that happens all the time. And as Aravail said in the chat room, they are slowly working through it. So, one of the sub items, yes, it's now completed. That does increase the possibility that the May 31st date might stick. But also, I wouldn't be too optimistic at that. If it does stick, then that would be great. But if it doesn't, then don't be surprised. But it is good to see that they're working through it at least. Yeah. And as Aravail is saying in the chat room, that they indicated that part of the reason for the delay is due to modifications from SpaceX. So, it's not the FAA itself, it's from SpaceX, which hopefully means that we'll get a, you know, a Fonsee or a modified Fonsee out of that because there have been some changes that SpaceX has been doing there down at Boca Chica. So, it's really important, you know, to kind of cover all those bases with it because you kind of can't, you know, approve regulations on something completely different from what you're going to actually end up flying. That's kind of not how regulatory systems work. You kind of have to have it with that there. So, yeah, that's how it goes. And also, what Harry is saying in the chat, he'd rather that SpaceX or the FAA take the time and that if SpaceX were ready, it would be a different story. I do understand that. SpaceX, they haven't proven that they are ready to do an orbital flight, like they haven't fully filled up a complete starship stack yet and there are several other things on SpaceX's end that they still need to do in order to, I guess, prove to the public that they are ready to do an orbital flight test. But I'm also unsure whether they will be delaying that in accordance to the FAA's delays because if they already know that the FAA are holding for another month, then there's no sort of rush to be getting these things done. So I'm not sure how these two things correlate. SpaceX may just be holding off because, like, oh, we don't need to do that yet. Yeah, and that's a very big thing that I think so many people were missing today, which is that SpaceX really is not ready to go down there, at least from what we can all see from outside of Boca Chica. Obviously, myself and yourself, Ryan, we are not privy to any information outside of what the public gets, but, you know, yeah, that's just the nature of the beast. And, yeah, Launchpad rather take the time now and then push through it and have to do other stuff down the road, so, yeah. So that's kind of happened with it. Oh, this is a good one here, Ryan. You want to take this one from Molly? What happens if the FAA end up saying that they need to do the in-depth assessment? That would be years of delays. I don't know. That's my answer to that. That would be less than optimal. That's my response to that. Yeah, just a little bit. I feel like if there was supposed to be an in-depth assessment that needed to happen, it would have happened already. That would kind of be something that would go on right out of the gate. And we've also got to remember that this has been, this assessment's kind of been going on for a little while, too. So there's a lot of data and information that's coming in with that there. And Launchpad's got a really good one here, too, which is asking, you know, with the changes in engines, grid fins, height of the ship, basically changing the whole inch, a lot of there, do you think that could impact the review and kind of make them restart on some part of the review? And that's why there are delays? Starship is an evolving vehicle all the time. Part of this vehicle development is not unexpected. SpaceX are going to be iterating Starship as much as they can. So I would have hoped that that would have come into some consideration while the FAA were doing their job. If it wasn't, I'd be kind of surprised. But this, it's for, it's the way I understand it, it's not necessarily just for the rocket, it's for everything there, because the KSC is already approved to fly Starship, so it's more of a, is Boca Chica ready to do this rather than is Starship ready to do this? That's my understanding of it anyway. Yeah, and we've got another one in our chat room from Mike asking, and I kind of want to throw this one at you, Ryan, because you're going to be able to answer this much better than I would, which is, would they turn 100% of their focus to Florida if things in Boca Chica kind of reach a stall? Well, what Elon said in February at the Starship event in Boca Chica was that if there was like a significant delay with regulatory approval and I take significant delay as like six months plus, then they would consider moving to Florida. But he also said that the Cape has an incredibly dense cadence this year. There's so much happening and they don't want to interrupt other launches, either from themselves or other launch providers for testing out their next generation rocket. They'd rather do that at Boca Chica, which is controlled by them. They're the only people there and it's their environment for them testing things. If this goes on much longer, they could go to Florida, but I'd say there's probably a few months in it still. The dense cadence at the Cape, you don't say. I didn't notice. I didn't notice that at all. You okay, Jamie? I'm fine. I've slept so much. It's fine. Yeah, I saw a friend of mine did the math today and did a little tweet that says that SpaceX so far this year is launching on average every 6.94 days. Awesome. That's awesome. Isn't that great? I joke about it, but it is nice. It's nice to be busy. It's nice to be in this constant go mode. I'd much prefer to be busy than bored. It's really cool to see this mature architecture kicking butt. I remember the days of when SpaceX would launch once a quarter. Me too. I also remember the days where SpaceX would get on the pad and then scrub a lot. Meet you. That was back in the day when you can actually comment on spaceflight now articles. That's how old it is. I haven't been there in a while. Has it gotten gross? No, they don't allow you to comment anymore. That left seven years ago. I haven't been there for a while, apparently. That's because I go to NASA Space Flight where I can comment because I've got an amazing forum. Exactly. NASA Space Flight because they're great. Does NASA Space Flight officially have a motto? I don't know, but it feels like a sponsored ad for NASA Space Flight at this point. They're amazing. This video is brought to you by NASA Space Flight. Go watch them instead of us. We love you NSF. You guys are so good. I do love NASA Space Flight. Someone reached out to me and said, can you do our webcast? I can't. Do you know where I work? NASA Space Flight can. They went out and did a phenomenal job. They were the first people I recommended. Actually, I'm going to go back through the chat room here because there was one I really wanted to bring up, because Molly Mars Gal brought up the FAA seeing what if they need to do an in-depth assessment. This could be years of time, and I feel like Molly Mars Gal 33 brings up a very good point here, which we did not touch on in our answer to that, which is that the purpose of this assessment was to determine if they need to do a revised review compared to the one they did for Falcon 9 slash Falcon Heavy. So basically, you've got a completely different rocket. You're trying to fly from a certain area, so we might need to do a complete and total overhaul of the review on that, which then yes, that might take a little bit of time in order to do that. But I feel like that's not going to end up happening because we've already seen a couple of the Starship test flights and things like that, and even though there were some regulatory hurdles, I guess if we want to call trying to jump over the hurdle and hitting it right in your face with that, like that. But it seems in the past year, cooler heads have prevailed on that front and things are working a little. It seems like the cooperation is starting to be as good as it needs to be with things like that. But of course, also, you know, it could be wildcard out there somewhere, so that's kind of how it goes. But also, Ryan, there was another comment on here that I thought was good, and we're having to kind of jump back here, which is that have we covered the crunched down super heavy, which is, I assume... His actual name is Downcomer. Downcomer, okay, excuse me. Um, I don't... Not here, but we have the... Does everyone know what that is? I actually shouldn't talk, I'm sorry. Yeah, so... Here's your microphone. Thanks. Go ahead. But yeah, we haven't covered it here, but if you want to learn more about that, you can go to the latest episode of Space News, which is on the channel, which will be the video before this one, because it's our gas video. So if you want to learn more about that, go there and watch that. And yeah, there's not really much else to add, apart from the fact that the Downcomer little bit squished. Just a bit. Turns out... Go over there. Turns out some cryogenic fluids, they could do some really interesting things in case anybody was wondering, especially when there's welds involved. So yeah, that's... That's a little bit of a... Oops. Yeah. With that there, so... Yeah, the bee-veebs is saying, it's a giant metal straw, get it right. So that's how you move the locks through it, the liquid oxygen there, right? Oh my goodness. That'll be fine. Yeah. It will. Just once over with a wet paper towel, you'll be fine. So I'm sure it'll be okay. So get some pledge and just, get that 30-year-old rag you have and put it on there and you'll be... You'll be fine. You'll be fine. I promise. So yeah, everybody's saying that Downcomer's a good name for that. It actually is a technical term for that aspect of it. Are you kidding me? No, no, I wasn't joking. No, it's... Yeah. That's what it's called. Yeah, so it sounds like one of those... Where have I been? No, no, it sounds like one of those like Bodie McBoat faces things, but that's actually what it's called. No. Yeah, no, legit. I had to add Starship to the search to find that image. Downcomer is an actual technical term for that sort of pipe. It is. Why did I not know that? Well, hold it. To be fair, I did not know that either and I work there, but I didn't know that until I was doing exactly what Dada was doing and I just thought it was like, you know, the community likes to make up names. Oh, that's great. Water tower. I mean, I call it ingenuity of the Marzacopter, right? Like this is the thing that we do. And then yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's a real... It's an actual thing. I see one SpaceX result in these images for Downcomer. Yep. Yeah. Wow. It's an industry term. Wow. Okay, well... My mind is blown. So I thought I knew a lot of things, but apparently I don't know anything. You're welcome. So I just... I blew it. Yeah. I blew it. So yeah. I can't tell you how dirty my search history is when I'm searching for butt-weld flanges and nipples. This show. That's how the show is going. What is going on with this show? Industry terms, I swear. They are, but like, seriously, this show. Yeah. Here we go. So yeah. Oh my gosh. Also, Ryan, the booster today that flew, there's something pretty cool about it, right? Speaking of that compressed cadence, Jamie. Thank you. Just keep rubbing that in. Just keep rubbing that in. That's great. There's a reason I'm wearing a green dress today, right? Like I came from the control room. It's not green. Straight. It is green. Did you get some sleep? It has green like tendencies. Yeah, actually, I did get some sleep legitimately. Nice. In your Tesla Model X plan. You know what it is? It's green fluid. Yeah. It's green adjacent. You know what it is? Green fluid. Here's, it's all of the crew stuff going on, right? It's like down, up, down, up, down, up, and like the crew missions are just... Left, right, left, right. Jamie starts to look. Yeah, kind of. But the crew missions are just a heavier lift, at least from my chair. They're a much heavier lift and so it's just constant. But crew three comes back next week, then like nothing for a hot minute. Like regular launches, but no crew launches. And so I can like take a step back, go to the Galactic Star Cruise or enjoy myself. It'll be great. Yeah. Just enjoy, enjoy being there. I'm going to, I'm taking a spacing, spacing cruise. A cruise in space. Nice. Are they going to give you wings? Sure. That would be cool. No, no, FAA doesn't... Ask for wings. Oh my God. I'm going to ask for wings. Yes, you have to ask for wings. I am going to ask for... I'm going as a Sith, so I will demand wings. I love that you're like, you've already decided which side you're going to be on. Of course. That was a question. That was a question? That was a question. Come on. And you're going to be the narc on the ship. Yeah, absolutely. I can't believe that. I've got this incredible... Where's the fun in that? Have they given you a role already? The entire time is the fun in that, Jerry. I understand, but like, but I guess I don't, I guess I have to find out what they throw you through while you're on it in order to understand whether it makes sense to want to do either of that. I get to mess with other guests and I get to mess with cast members. I couldn't be happier, Jerry. Are you sure that you're allowed to mess with other guests? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I can be in character. Absolutely. I am... Are you dressing up? Oh, yes, absolutely. I had a costume commission for this. It is amazing. Pictures. Pictures. Are you coming to the show next week? Post-show, post-show. Because our show next week is after May 4th. Wait, wait, do we have a show next week? I don't think we have a show next week. I think I'm gone for the Galactic Starcars next week. Yeah, no, I'm not here. No, no, I leave on the 7th. I don't get back. Yeah, no, no, so... Oh, yeah. No, no, no. I hold up. The 6th is... We're figuring out if there's a show, everybody. No, there's no shit. No, I'm sorry. So, hold up. There is no show. There are no shows, two weeks in a row, and here's why. And this is very important. Because on that Friday, I'm getting my hair redone, so my sith outfit... My hair will coordinate with my sith outfit, and then the following week, I will literally be in Florida. This is very important. This is important. This is important. I have to have my hair done sith-like, and I'm going to the same person who does Kelly Osbourne's hair. That's no problems. So, no show for two weeks, because I want to do my hair. Sorry. For two weeks, I'm sorry. I got that excuse a lot in high school. Okay. I'm busy. I'm doing my hair. All right. I derailed the show for the 18th time. No, it's fine. You're Empress. Oh, yeah. I like that. You can keep doing that. Yeah, sure. Whatever. I can't breathe. I don't know. With things like that. So, in the airlock. Actually, this is not a bad idea. A community show next week if anyone wants to do it. Well, that'd be fun. I won't be here, but y'all will have to host it without me. Okay. Yeah. We could give that a try. Okay. So, we can see how fast that'll fall apart. We'll find out if it works. You know what that show will be. You think the wheels will come off any faster than it does on a regular show. No, probably slower. It'll be like our best show of the year. Right, right. All of you guys will be doing is mocking me the entire time, and I'll have no way to defend myself. I think Mel Desar has got it right. Okay. Which is, you know... Hey, look. You watch the live show because you just want to come and geek out over space and just like hang out and nerd out. And you know. Yeah. This is what happens. This is your weekly dose of space chaos. Yes, exactly. Yeah, just all over the place. If you want something more structured, more actually like information packed, and you know, actually useful, go to NASA Space Flight. That's the ad for the show. We could let the mini-dutters run the show. That's true. See how that goes. If we want true chaos. Did you have more SpaceX news? Should I shut up and go away again? Yeah, before you went off somewhere, I don't know where you went. Mars. So, back to the condensed cadence. Yes. I'm going to read the numbers here because I don't want to get them wrong. They're very precise. The Starlink launch, technically yesterday, UTC, Booster B1062 performing its sixth flight has performed the shortest ever turnaround for a Falcon 9 Booster at 21.26 days, which brings it down by nearly a week. The previous record was 27.17 days. I believe this is also the fastest time ever for a turnaround at Slick 40, which this was its 85th launch for SpaceX. And it was also the shortest ever turnaround time for the drone ship, which caught the booster. Just read the instructions. It was at Port Canaveral for just about 19 hours. So, pretty much, if you want, this is just like record breaking in every single category you can tick, which is cool to see. The increased cadence is... This is Starship and Falcon, obviously two different vehicles. However, compressing the cadence with one booster for Falcon 9 will also give SpaceX experience on how to rapidly refurbish or just clean up Starships in the future, which is going to be very useful for the way that Starship is going to operate. Yeah, and actually, Stephen Goats in the chat room is asking, when are we going to have that 24-hour turnaround? I also want to say that I was looking at Stephen's profile picture in preview and the way the light is hitting the screen, I couldn't tell that his hair actually stopped here, so it looked like he had this absolute epic head of hair that just flowed all the way down. I thought it was like straight up Brian May. I was in... I was like, damn, jealous! That's what happened in my head. All right, that was D-Railing 19. Thanks. Yeah, what do you think about that, Ryan? Like, are we going to make another bend now? Sorry to break your hearts, never. I don't see this happening. There's no reason for SpaceX to do it other than the fact that, hey, look what we can do. And the logistical usefulness of that is just... it just doesn't make sense. 24-hour turnarounds for Starship? Yes. 24-hour turnaround for Falcon 9? Not really. And if they're launching on average one a week at the moment, then where's that 24-hour turnaround going to come from? I mean, you can't just, like, stick a stack of Starlings on it and then just send it up again in 24 hours? You got to replace the leg, crush cartridges. There's all sorts of things you got to do. Just get it up there. Details. Even if you could turn it around in 24 hours, it would still be simpler just to put those Starlings on another booster. Yeah, Harry's got a really good... It's not like they're short boosters. Yeah, Harry's got one here, which is just landed on the launch mount. So, piece of cake. Yeah. I mean, they're getting there. Actually, why don't they make these two arms that they put onto the launch tower and then it can, like, maneuver around the Falcon and then the Falcon can, like, land on it with its grid fins. I know that sounds really crazy, right? But what if it could, like, just come in and then, like, just be caught by these two arms? I think that... I don't know why no one's thought of this before. I think that would be, like, really clever. And then they wouldn't even need legs anymore. Think how much mass they'd be saving and just land it, like, right on the launch tower. I think that's ingenious. Someone should try... Someone should do that. You're saying, like, this? Like, come together and grab it? And just, like, and then it just, like, perches on these two little arms. There are two companies in aerospace you never bet against. JPL and two space companies. I think if anyone can pull that off... It's JPL. No, I really... I think it's SpaceX. You know, it may not happen the first time, but... They will break it until it works. Yeah, well, SpaceX or JPL. SpaceX. I feel like both of them will break it until it works. No, JPL will do it the first time, the first try. Except that JPL will take 20 years to do it. They will test the crap out of it, make sure it works right on the first try when it's game day, but SpaceX will break it until it works. Also, let's just put it how it's going to go here. JPL will break it at its destination, not here on Earth. Carry the one. Imperial or metric, Jared? Actually, was that a JPL mission? Which? The one that slammed in, because the... Which one? Because there were two. No, the one that did it because of the lack of Imperial, the metric conversion, or metric to Imperial. The one that did the bad work. It was Mars climate orbiter, wasn't it? I think so. Oh, that sounds right. I think that was JPL. And then Mars polar lander was when the legs deployed, and it went, Oh! I'm not... I'm landed, and it turned the... Like it hit the sensor harder than they were expecting, and it turned off the thrusters when it was still like 20 meters up. That seems like a comical DARPA bloober reel. Yeah, except it was probably expensive and loud temporarily, I would imagine. I don't know, because the sound would have had to, for you to hear it, you would have had to traverse through a medium, right? And there's not a lot of medium for that sound to traverse through. There's sound on Mars. No, I know there is, but like the density of that sound wave would be very light, because there's not a lot of, or how to own worth that. There's not a lot of medium for that to move through, so I question how loud that would actually be. Yeah. If a rover crashes on Mars, and there's no one there to hear it... Did it happen? Did it? Or is it all a conspiracy? Yeah. Just like smacking a back shell off of the surface. Did we cover the two speeds of sound that they found? No, I don't think we've talked about that. I didn't know. We found another speed of sound. Well, on Mars, there's actually two speeds of sound. So, Dada, I think you understand it much better than I do. I haven't looked into it. I just thought it was amazing that they found that. I haven't done any research in it. Is it due to the air density? It's fascinating to me. Yeah. Is it due to air density? Wait, why would that slow the sound though? That doesn't make any sense. I can see where it would lessen the sound, but how would that impact speed? Or does the medium impact the speed, right? Because sound is pretty slow. Yeah. At least at sea level, it's pretty slow here on Earth. Yeah. I was just... I'm running through the article to try to find... Someone find someone from NASA's space flight to explain it to us. Chris, get on the air. We need your help. So, Michael, get over here. Help. They said higher frequencies and lower frequencies have two different speeds of sound. Hmm. I did not know that. I'm going to have to go look at that because that's super-duper fascinating. Yeah, it is. So, Beldazar asks you, Dada, if there are two speeds of sound, how many sonic booms are there when a socket lands? And that's specifically for you, Dada. Seventeen. Seventeen. Somehow it's still in our odd number. Three. Yeah. So density and temperature make sense, Stephen? Now frequency. Right. Well, I think the question is how is it getting impacted and the impact is density and temperature, which is impacting frequency? Michael. I love that NASA space flight is just trolling the show now. That makes me happy, too, somehow. Yeah, they must have, like, somebody must have called them and been like, guys, tomorrow's talking about you. Well, we said it three times. That's true. I can probably call Chris Bergen, Bergen, Bergen, yeah. I can call Chris by basically saying Atlantis three times. What is this other thing? Trains. I can be like, Atlantis is on a train, and then, like, he jumps into the chat room at that point. Wow. Amazing. I'm going to end this poll. I'm going to end this poll. Oh, I ended the poll, but here we go. It was 115 votes on the poll, and 63% of you were wrong, and 36% of you voted for Mars Acopter. So 115, yep. So over 60%, over 60% of you did not have the correct name. Yeah. Sorry. Also, that was named by a child, Jamie, so I just want to throw that out there. I don't want children. You're going to hurt that child's feelings. I don't want children. Please. Please. No, it's okay. I don't like kids either, so other people. I'll ruin other people's kids. Hashtag team members, it was okay. Wait, what's going on? Team what? Oh, Team Mars Acopter. So, writing a horse through the train museum? Okay, are we stalling? Are we stalling? Did you have more, Ryan? Like, I keep derailing you. I think that's my new hobby, actually. Yeah. It's like a new sport for me. I was like, how much can I... Ryan, why don't you talk about this thing? And then I'll just interact with you. Actually. Yeah. Well, I want to say crew four had Jessica Watkins, who's the first African-American woman to a long-duration stay on the International Space Station. So, awesome. Yeah. Glad to see it finally happened. Yeah, me too. It went first time, too, right? Yeah, her first flight, too. No, I meant the rocket went. No weather delays or anything like that. Oh, yeah, that too. So, cool. That was really good. And she's a geologist, so we should send her to the moon. Nice. But only on the very last mission, so we get the minimal amount of geology science possible. Oh, like an Apollo 17 kind of thing. Like Apollo 17, exactly. Yeah, exactly. That was a deep space nerd joke cut, right? What? Like, you got there. You got there. Our avail says that she worked at JPL. What? And she's from Maryland. Yeah, Maryland. Woo! Woo-hoo, American. I mean, Maryland. Wow. All right, we're done. Have we become slap-happy? I think the atmosphere inside is station 204. I'd like to thank everyone so much for watching this show, especially all of the members of tomorrow. These are people who contribute week after week to helping to make sure that we can keep these shows on the air because keeping a station in orbit is expensive and time-consuming. Like, we're constantly having to come back up here and refill the oxygenators. I think we forgot to do that today. Clearly. That's why we're so punchy. You know why I'm punchy? Because I have gone... Hold up, let me get the real number here. I have gone 58 hours, 31 minutes, and 5 seconds without food. Couldn't hit 60, huh? I'm getting there. I'm getting there. My goal, hold up, my goal is... Nice Ferrari. She couldn't afford the Lamborghini. My goal is 96 hours. So I'm getting... 96 hours. I'm at just under 60. That's four days. Yes, it is. You can do math, my friend. You can hit the next button. I would hope so. I was just talking while you... I figured you could just self advance. I just don't know what downcomers are. Apparently. I could do the math, but I don't know what a downcomer is. Yeah, so, well, Star Watcher Steven says, it was fun but short for me. Hopefully tune in earlier the next day. Let me bring that up as a comment and then we can... Hang on, because I can... I can make this relevant. I can make this relevant. Ready? If you don't want the show to end yet and you're actually having a fun time... Yes. You can stay around. Like, we don't have to end right here. No. You can stay... Yeah, give the people what they want. Gotta find your name. The list is too long. Make sure to circle your name with a Sharpie. On your screen. On your screen. If you're having fun and we're not too punchy for you, you can stick around. 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Look, if you're gonna subscribe, you've already subscribed. If you think... If you made it this far into the show and you have not subscribed to the show... What is wrong with you? Why not? Like, you got this... Either you hate us so much that you, like, rage-watched the show. I'm gonna be honest. I think some people do. I do. I believe that's possible. Yes. Or, like, if you made it this far, hit the red button. It helps us a great deal. And then, if you clearly enjoyed this, you'll get more of whatever this is. For... Colton says, for only a dollar a month, you can access to a special time and field our family with hypergolic fuel. Yeah. I hope not. I hope not. All right. Push R buttons, please. I don't even know what that means. Let me make sure I'm in the right rundown. Oh. Oh. Oh. And that... Actually, that does bring up a really... So, as we close out the show, I do just want to end with, because we were doing launches at Company X today, and it was... There was something that I have never seen before. It was actually... Yeah. It was really cool. So, where I was in the control room, and all of a sudden, on the...