 because I've asked you guys to send me videos you want me to comment on and somebody sent me this video to comment on it's called uncomfortable conversations with a black man and it's interesting the guy's very well spoken and looks like a really successful guy and so I thought you know this would be a good one to talk about and it's particularly relevant right now so what he does is he he takes questions for people and he answers them and the questions are particularly I guess from white people and he answers them from the perspective of a black guy right and so we're gonna we're gonna look at this video and we're gonna analyze it and we'll see if I let me find it there it is all right there it is he's got a bunch of these videos not that many because I think he started recently he also brings people on the show and has discussions with them I haven't watched those videos yet but it looks like those interested but anyway this is the first show where he is he is presenting the scene now let me just start by saying the whole approach the whole approach of white people black people white people asking black people black people I mean that whole approach of looking at things from a collectivistic perspective looking at things from solely from the prism of color from the prism of race is a recipe for disaster nothing good nothing positive can come from this this is a recipe for more racism for more discrimination and and really for more collectivism because the whole approach is from the perspective of race from the perspective of collectivism and and unfortunately this guy is guilty of this when asked on a different show not this show whether he would like to see a world of color blindness he says no he says you know something about colors beautiful and differences in culture beautiful and so on but that's not the point of color blindness and let me just say my view is we should be colorblind when judging the character of people we should be colorblind when judging the quality of a culture the character of people is not determined by their race the culture is not determined by race people should be judged by their characters individuals culture should be judged by whether they are pro-life or anti-life pro-human values or anti-human values pro-human progress or anti-human progress and color of skin the geographic location of the culture has nothing to do with any of those anyway so I thought we'd we'd watch this and analyze it and we're gonna start with the first question he gets he has a little intro which I'm skipping and we'll start with the first question he gets which is about riots so it's perfect a manual why are y'all rioting I understand protesting but why riot and to that I submit this MLK said that rioting is the language of the unheard for years black people have tried peacefully protesting going back to 1965 and before with the Selma March and that didn't work and that didn't work so he keeps repeating this it find it interesting that there's a complete there's this assumption that the civil rights movement just didn't happen that no progress was made in 1960s that we still somehow live under Jim Crow laws that they're still being asked to go to the back of the bus I mean it not only is an injustice to the heroism of those who struggled to get rid of the Jim Crow laws and to bring about the recognition of the rights of blacks particularly in the south but really all over the country remember things like redlining were government policy government policy even in the north even in California so getting rid of government discrimination at the federal and state level was a real achievement a major achievement a major achievement of Martin Luther King and and and many of the civil right leaders of the time so if you start from the assumption that we're still in the sense in the middle of the civil rights era that is 70 years later nothing has changed everything is the same then yeah I that should lead to unbelievably frustrating frustration wow we meet fighting this battle we're still being discriminated by the federal government we're still being discriminated by the state government but that is just a straight evasion of the reality now we'll get to the fact that there's no racism out there but the reality is the reality is a lot was achieved in the 1960s in terms of racial equality and and by the way as you know I don't consider race as a legitimate legitimate concept I use it here as they use it as everybody else uses it but I don't believe race is a valid valid category a valid concept to differentiate between people but the idea that nothing has been achieved nothing has changed it's just absurd the 1960s civil rights movement led to the diss to complete dismantling of Jim Crow it led to the complete elimination of the laws that discriminate against blacks in America and indeed and tragically in my view tragically in my view and part of the problem today the 1960s civil rights movement actually led to laws at the federal level that discriminate in favor of blacks affirmative action is a great example of that equal housing inability inability to discriminate on private property which violates private property rights in the name of anti discrimination so the civil rights movement while dismantling real discrimination also brought about what people call reverse discrimination which I think has perpetuated the idea of race has perpetuated the importance of race and has perpetuated frustration resentment and brought us to the point where we are today but that they ignore completely because that is a reverse form of discrimination and I find it you know tragic that this guy who looks like he's I don't know he's late 20s maybe early 30s or maybe his early 20s I don't know it's not aware of the massive progress that is made today to say you're racist most people 90% of people look down on you if you say you're racist and good that's progress 1950s many people in the south said unbelievably racist things considered themselves racist and it was a point of pride the difference is dramatic and by not recognizing that major progress has been made in this country with regard to treating treatment of blacks you are weakening your own position you're weakening your own stand and you're excusing the kind of violence that should never be excused there is no excuse for riots unless you're launching a revolution and then it better be for the right cause it better be for more liberty so let's let's keep listening and then in 2016 Colin Kaepernick he took a knee and that agenda got moved to a flag which was never the goal he just wanted to raise awareness on social injustice so that didn't work and so now we've seen riots I mean if there's social injustice and there was racism out there there's no question there was racism out though I don't think anyone near to the extent that they claim there is and and to the degree that they claim there is but there is racism out there is the way to do it is the way to deal with it is the way to solve it through violence is the way to solve it through rioting and what is the agenda if the agenda of the rioting if the agenda of the demonstration was a revolution to bring about true colorblindness that would be one thing but we've seen what the riots are aimed to do it's to destroy the system to destroy capitalism to destroy freedom it's to destroy businesses destroy property and to annihilate this system that we have that is the United States of America I mean that's explicitly what they argue Trevor asks if riots persist in leftist cities is it more for governors to enact better stand your ground laws which would result in more deadly forced being used in protecting property no I think I think the solution is not for governors to say we give up we're gonna let we're gonna let citizens protect their own property I think if riots persist then the solution is to bring out the national guard and to arrest people in mass and to keep them in jail for longer periods of time to prosecute them to try them and to put them in jail the solution is now for the government to say we want anarchy we want people to go out there to defending their own property and everybody's their own cop which would create massive mayhem like we saw with this guy walking down the street whether he was protecting property or not with a semi-automatic rifle and two people got killed and he could have easily got killed the solution needs to be for the police to actually do their job for the government to actually do their job for people who are in charge of law and order to actually provide us with law and order not to default on that by saying no no no we can't do it you do it somebody says that again super chat I would suggest that these incidents are mostly the result of hiring policies over decades maybe but then we need to reform the police so that the hiring policies moving forward are changed and maybe in some cities in some places it makes sense to fire all the police and to rehire new people on the basis of better standards as was done in places like Georgia the country when they wanted to eradicate corruption among the police all right I want to get back to today's discussion of a writing so his point is it's never worked civil rights movement didn't work calling capitalics taking a knee didn't work because black people and hurt people are trying to get the attention of the oppressor they're trying to raise raise awareness of the oppression so here's the problem the problem is that you view people as monoliths you view people as collectives we black people are trying to raise the awareness of the oppressor white people but that's not the issue the issue is some white people some police the issue is not that we live in a country this fundamentally racist even though I think there are a lot of racist people in America more than I thought in the past so somebody says you're not white you're on you can't emphasize in any way we'll get to that because there's a sense in which that's right there's a sense of which I cannot emphasize and and I now and I'll get to that but the only way to solve problems like this the only way to get out of this long term is to change the orientation from us versus them them versus us them as a group we as a group they did this to us and I we and start talking about I and me and you I am not an oppressor my skin color has been three white I am not a racist my skin color happens to be white you are not a writer your skin color happens to be black we've got to get away we've got to get away from treating people as members of groups we got to get to the point of treating people as individuals and we were a long way from that and unfortunately videos like this do not help us get there do not help us get there in spite of what I sense is real sincerity from this guy I was in I was biking around Lake Austin the other day and there was a white girl around about 15 years and as I'm on my bike I say to her on your left because I want to notify her I'm coming so that she can change her course of action I get 10 meters away and I increase my voice on your left because she had yet to move I get five meters away and she's still there and I say on your left because I realize if she doesn't change her course of action there will be a collision and as I approach her I go on your left and we collide my goal was never to hit her but because she had her headphones in she didn't hear me and so she didn't change her course of action so the idea is that American culture has their headphones in and blacks in American culture been telling us change your course change your course change your course and because we've had our headphones in we've been dealing with other things we haven't paid any attention to them but what does it mean to change your course have blacks in America been saying be individualists stop discriminating stop the racism train police better here are five things that need to be done ten things that you've done and of course there's no evidence click at evidence empirical evidence that the police shoot black man more than they do others but this country does have a history of racism and I believe as a lot of racists in it but how do you deal with racism you don't deal with racism by being a racist you don't deal with racism by being a collectivist you don't deal with racism by saying you're all racist we need to change the system we destroy what we have we need socialism or we need I don't know what is the solution what is it what is it that they're trying to gain our attention for on a bike it's easy you change your lane but what does it mean to change a lane when it comes to these issues they don't tell us because changing a lane is far too dramatic what they really mean is either they don't know I think that's the more innocent of them and the more serious of them what they mean is much scarier is way too scary and they know it I believe that that's the same thing black people are doing now 1960s were yelling we're oppressed and there was a consequence of that something was done about it don't evade that but the course of action wasn't changed and so we again yell we're oppressed course of action was changed whatever oppression you have today is significantly on a mass scale on you know on an orders of magnitude different than it was in the 1960s you are today not systematically discriminated against by the state indeed you could make the argument you're systematically discriminated for by the state in hiring in education higher education in other formats so all this anger all this frustration that I understand actually exists if this is the attitude nothing has changed everything's just as bad nobody ever listens to us that's just nonsense but the course of action wasn't changed and so again we yell we're oppressed and now you see the collision that's occurred in America so well I don't condone rioting and I'm sure you don't either because for the most part black people and others that are looting and rioting destructively they're burning down their own homes but when you think about the five different stages of grief you come up to one stage which is called anger and sometimes emotions they don't know their actions so he's not condoning the riots but he is excusing them he's giving them a justification that does not belong he's giving it a justification that is not right he's giving it a justification that doesn't work if racism is a problem anger will not solve it if racism is a problem writing and burning down your own homes doesn't solve it if racism is a problem emotion is not the solution emotion and and and being a slave to that emotion giving in to that emotion acting out on that emotion for your own destruction by burning down your own home or the homes of your neighbors of the homes of the businesses that serve you it's not only not a solution but it will make the problem only worse and acting out like this doesn't cause people who are racist or might be sanctioning racism or might be even inadvertently promoting racist policies it's not gonna change their minds it's gonna make it worse violence in this context can only be appropriate if you're truly trying to change the government to change the world to establish some kind of revolution but what kind of revolution do they want I remember my mom when I was a child she lost her she lost her sister and I just remember her yelling and screaming and I come outside my room and I see my mom throwing herself into a wall and I'm wondering what happened and my dad tells me that my mom's sister had died thinking back on that throwing yourself into a wall it's not gonna change anything you're actually harming yourself yeah but sometimes pain and hurt it doesn't know how to express itself so teach it how to express itself focus your efforts on teaching people how to express their anger their frustration and maybe maybe if you teach them the truth about what their anger frustration should be focused at maybe then you'd have a more constructive solution because this cannot be this cannot be an adult solution to the problem this is a little child throwing a tantrum and if you're a little child you'll be treated as a little child and that will not solve anybody's problems don't excuse the rioting under any circumstances it is not excusable no matter what the ultimate circumstances of the shooting turn out to be rioting is not the answer all right before I go on and I want to go on because there's some there's some other segments here that think interesting we got 89 likes 250 watch two dislikes I'm not surprised this issue always gets a few people who dislike my what I think is a relatively nuanced position and nuances something people don't tend to like but I'm sure they're more than 89 likes so please of the 220 people watching right now please go over and like the show if 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my white friends my black friends my green you know that's that's exactly the problem and again the more oh wow Richard thank you the more the more we focus on race the more we talk race the more we emphasize race the more we categorize people based on the race when we put them into groups and tribes and racial identifiers the more racism we will have the more racism we will have no question no matter what your motives on and again I get the sense that this guy has positive motives and I say this if you and I were in a race and the official at the start line they held me back for the first 200 meters and you had a 200 meter then head start the only way to level out that race is either stop you from running or put me on a golf cart and catch you up and catch myself up well you see what we've done in America is we simply said okay a manual you're now free to run and we've acted as if it's a fair race when in all honesty black people were held back for hundreds of years and so within the late 1960s we say okay black people you can go now that's not a fair race LBJ he said at best when he said you can't shackle and change someone for hundreds of years liberate them to freely compete with the rest and still justly believe that you've been there now that's pretty interesting right the analogy right because in a race if you give somebody a 200 yard advantage for the advantage whatever then we all know that's not fair and if you hold somebody back purposefully that's not fair and we know that Jim Crow laws were not fair and slavery was not fair but what is what is the problem with using the analogy of a race for economics not by the way just as an aside this guy's name is the son of an immigrants who came to the United States I don't know exactly when but came to the United States after Jim Crow laws are gone after slavery no longer existed his family was not held back indeed my guess is that the reason his family came to the United States is because he had more opportunities in the United States than any other place on the planet the reason they emigrated here is because even though he's black he had amazing opportunities and indeed we know that blacks from Caribbean blacks from Nigeria blacks from Africa they've done over the last few decades done phenomenally well in the United States but why is an economy not a race somebody says because it's not a pie yes because it's not a zero some game it's not a race it's not a race with winners and losers an economy is a place in which we trade yes some people make more than others but they only make more than others by making more for others somebody wins when I win in a sense everybody wins their own race you're not running against other people you're running against yourself you're trying to maximize your own ability and indeed somebody else running ahead of you faster makes it easier for you to do better this is why the whole analogy breaks down because it doesn't make any sense as I said many times we've all benefited enormously from the Jeff Bezos and the Bill Gates and the and the and the and the Steve Jobs's of the world our lives are better for that even though they won the race I'm not a billionaire they are and yet we're all better off so the idea of looking at races in terms of again groups collectives in terms of they're ahead they're behind they're winning they're losing no your life is your responsibility make the most out of the trades you have an opportunity to do and if if you are barred from a certain profession by law if you're prevented from participating in a trade by law or if the culture is so bad that you cannot trade with people because they are such racist then yeah that's something to complain about and to the extent that there's racism in America yes that's something to complain about but this is not a race this is not a competition a zero-sum competition this is not a good analogy and by the way it is true it is absolutely true that the fact that the United States of America is held back through slavery and then through Jim Crow the back population that it excluded it from certain activities professions access to certain benefits the fact that we have done that that we did that that this country did that for decades that is a travesty that is unbelievably unjust that is horrific but what is the solution to something like that is to get rid of it to stop it to treat people like they should be treated with equal rights to take away the barriers for opportunities and yes the children of those people who were freed for the first time are going to struggle it's not easy coming out of slavery it's not easy coming out of an environment like Jim Crow and it's a struggle and that's tragic but it is a reality there's no way to fix that reality unfortunately it's hard but the more you hold on to the fact that you are a victim the more you hold on to the fact that the reason you have not succeeded in life is because your great great great great grandparents were slaves the more you hold on to the fact that you don't sit not succeeded in life because 70 years ago there was Jim Crow the less you will be successful less you will be able to run not that race run that whatever it is your life your career the more you believe you're a victim the less happy the less prosperous the less successful you will be in your life if you want to maximize opportunities for people who are once discriminated against what you want to fight for is freedom what you want to fight for is individual rights and what you want to fight for is individualism the antithesis of racism the antithesis of collectivism what you want to fight for is that people be treated not equally in a sense of treated one-on-one equally but based on their character based on their ability based on their qualities based on their qualifications what you want is capitalism and its defense of property rights capitalism and its defense of individual rights and it's tragic tragic for them for all of us that over the last 20 30 years particularly I'd say over the last 12 15 years this country has been moving steadily away from individualism from rights from freedom for maximizing opportunity towards greater and greater collectivism tribalism limitations of opportunity closing gates closing opportunities to people instead of people like this articulate smart people like this fighting for privatizing education so that their children the the family's children and the people they care about children can get the best education possible instead they're writing and voting down towns and cities across the country all right we've got a bunch of super chat questions here this is great thank you all keep them coming particularly the ones $20 or above let's keep going there's still one other point that I want to I want to address that he makes so white privileges it's having a head start due to hundreds and hundreds of years of systematic and systemic racism that's just bizarre to me right I mean there being hundreds and hundreds arguably well over a thousand years of systemic anti-Semitism and I come from a Jewish background for whatever that means for whatever that's worth my ancestors were discriminated against they were harassed they were you know they were killed they were murdered they were slaughtered most of my family were killed in the in the second world war in the Holocaust but before that Russian pogroms and on and on and on my family was slaughtered and butchered going back 1200 years 1500 years 2000 over 2000 years really do I carry with me the baggage of that has that impeded my ability to be successful in life I mean you can make the argument that my family would have been richer but that's me I wouldn't have been richer is my success in life dependent on my success on my father's success was dependent on his father's success was dependent on his father's success and of course it's not true of this guy the guy talking again he came here from as far as I know from the Caribbean or his parents they came here why because the opportunities what about blacks who come from Africa who do very well in America I've told you I think before that the most educated nationality of Americans in the United States today are Nigerians they're the most educated Americans too you know if you if you're gonna be if you're gonna instill in people the idea not only not that they are victims of people acting against them today I mean that there's a solution to we can solve the problem of racism or Jim Crow laws or problem today where there's somebody is mistreating somebody else that can be solved but if you're a victim because for the last several hundred years you'll be missed your ancestors were mistreated you're not being mistreated right now but for the last hundred years you were mistreated there's no solution to that there's no way to stop that there's just no way to solve that problem I cannot go back in time and free the slaves I cannot go back in time and get rid of Jim Crow laws this is the reality we have how do we solve it we solve it by treating people as individuals which both would get rid of racism and create massive economic opportunities for everybody but that of course is the last thing they want and it's the last thing anybody wants so both sides all sides of this argument unfortunately rely on collectivism and statism it's having a head start intrinsically built into your life it's not saying your life hasn't been hard but what it's saying is your skin color hasn't contributed to the difficulty in your life now that's a different argument now if you can say that a particular individual skin color has made his life more difficult than I have sympathy for that and I would like to know why and that is a problem that we can try to fix and it's the problem of racism in our society but your skin color you have to show how in your life your skin color has made your heart life harder and the fact that my skin color has not made my life harder although you could argue that my Jewishness has it's not a privilege that's the way it should be privilege is something special privilege is a grant given to you by the state no nobody's skin color should matter in their lives that's where you want to get to that's the point you want to achieve but the more you emphasize skin color the further away you get from that so yes I would like to live in a world in which nobody skin color made their life hard that skin color was indeed irrelevant for anything important in life for anything in life why just important for anything other than you know I don't know how many vitamins see how much vitamin see your skin absorbs and whether you're susceptible to skin cancer other cancers or whatever skin color should have no relevance to anything other than you know medical issues I live in an affluent neighborhood in Austin Texas and if I ever go to my mailbox and I see a white woman walking up to the mailbox I consciously sit in my car because I don't want her to feel like I'm a threat now that's sad and if that is true that is very sad and this is this is where I want to sympathize with this guy a little bit to the extent that black parents have to have a talk with their kids about how to deal with the police to the extent that a black man is truly afraid to go out into the street because a white one might feel afraid of him to the extent that he feels like he will be discriminated against or to the extent that he thinks that something bad will happen him just because of his skin color whether that is justified or not you don't know that he's a lying person you don't know anything about him but but it's it's it part of the problem is that that is your first response rather than sympathize it if that is a reality that's not good to the extent that there's a reality out there and look you hear this from blacks in this country a lot it's not just him you hear from successful blacks you hear from conservative blacks that there is a conversation to be had with their kids that there is an issue at least they perceive this to be an issue and that's sad if that's true and that's something that something needs to be done about again the thing to be done about it is to fight the racism behind it it's to change people's ideas about race writing is not going to solve this writing only makes this worse I don't know why you guys flip out when somebody says that I mean if he was the only person in the world saying it then okay you could say he's a you know as a liar this but everybody I've been a lot of people say it a lot of people feel a lot of people think that and if that's true that is sad if that's true that is bad that's true that affects all of us and to the extent that there's racism in this country and there's no question in my mind there is then that needs to be dealt with we need to fight against the racism if I'm on an elevator with the white person I try to hit the button first and get off the elevator first because I don't want them to perceive me as a threat because I realized it's like a big point in time whiteness can be weaponized we saw that this past week Amy Cooper Central Park the woman who called the cops on a black man good example this is a really good example she's this woman Amy Cooper not a made-up story real story wanted her to leash her dog because it was illegal to walk your dog without a leash and she used two words that are a death sentence for black people what she called the cops she said there's a black man who's threatening my life both of those things as far as when you compile them together were a lie because that black man he was a bird watcher and while so many people saw that incident and they were heartbroken I as a black man saw that incident and was reminded of 1955 and that till 14 year old boy who was lynched mutilated and killed by two white men because a white woman made a false claim saying that he flirted with in 2017 that white woman recanted that story in 1956 the two white men that killed him they got off and they admitted that they did it because they knew they couldn't be charged again due to double jeopardy now know that he contradicts himself here right because that's the progress that we've made the fact is that the woman in Central Park was embarrassed by what she did the fact is that the woman in Central Park apologized for what we did she was prosecuted for what she did the fact is that she that the black man was not lynched that there was a lot of understanding towards that backman but it's also true that it happened that it happened he was a bird watcher being the police being called on him because he was black so you can say there's no racism out there you can say he makes all this up all you want but the fact is that there's a significant percentage of the population of this country that fear that fears that their skin color would get them in trouble skin color would get them in trouble how is that right how is that good to live in a country where a certain percentage of the population that thinks that their skin color can get them in serious problems and you can dismiss the woman in Central Park as somebody in the chat knows as a Karen which is a stupid way of dismissing anything but it happened and it's real and it didn't happen in a void some stuff like this happens every day people out there are racist implicitly even when they don't think about and that's what needs to be dealt with and the way to deal with it is not to dismiss it to ridicule it to say he's a liar but to bring it back to the principal and the principal is we should treat people as individuals and if there are people out there who don't treat people as individuals if there are people out there who are racist whether they're white whether they're black whether they're Hispanic whether they're any color then no people should be dealt with not necessarily legally but by us by a society we should not be tolerating racists of any kind we should not acknowledge racism we should not promote racism you don't ban it you speak out against it you shun people who exhibit it you avoid having any association with people who are racist I've told you this you know a long time ago I you know there's very few things that people do that I believe us as irrational as to be a racist it's why I won't I won't tolerate it I won't support it in any way it's why I won't participate in this stupid I don't know IQ arguments and debates I mean I will participate in them to say that they're stupid that they irrelevant and that they only promote the worst in people racism must be eliminated racism must be eradicated for the face of the earth we must argue against the racists on this chat YouTube chat and in everywhere else in our lives and that means we need to argue about racism wherever we see it whoever preaches it whoever practices doesn't matter what we need today what I called a 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