 I'm with Amos Miller from a company called Glidance and he's going to show us a really terrific accessibility tool that he's the co-founder of the company Glidance I believe, correct? I am the CEO and co-founder of Glidance, correct? So talk to us about what this device can do. All right, so Glid is, first of all, I'll just explain that Glid is the first self-guided mobility aid for people with site loss. So really developing a solution that addresses the needs of people who need to get around, who are unable to see, and providing people with a, really with a third alternative. Today people use guide dogs and canes and we know that for some people they need some more help, especially people who lose their site later in life. So that's where, that's the origin of the work that led to the development of Glide. So why is that important to people later in life more than if they'd lost their vision earlier or if they were born blind? That's a great question. I mean people who are born blind build a mental map of their world and build the skills and capabilities to navigate in the world from a very early age. And by the way, I'm not saying that people who are born blind would not benefit from Glide. I mean I'm sure that they will enjoy the benefits that Glide brings in terms of this really clear, very clear and guided navigation, which we'll talk about in a minute. But people who lose their site later in life sometimes are reluctant to take those steps to develop the skillset that's required to be an effective cane user and get out and about independently. So maybe it's like learning a language later, you're always translating. If you're born speaking two languages, you spoke two languages, you're not translating. Maybe it's something like that. It is, yes. And it's also being alert to the information that you get from your environment and being able to orient based on that. It's also a mental adjustment and like being willing to walk out there and try for a while before you build that confidence. And I think one of the benefits that Glide can bring to that is that really very quickly because it actually guides you, a person who knows there, let's say, how to get around there, the neighborhood would be able to take a walk very quickly with it. So I'm going to describe what this looks like to the audience because there's audio only listeners as well. And heck, there's blind people listening as well. So he's got a... By the way, just for the audience, I am actually blind myself. It would be just worth explaining that I lost my sight in my 20s from retinitis pigmentosa. I've been at this kind of quest to figure out technological solutions for navigation for quite some time, maybe three decades now. I developed Soundscape at Microsoft for a number of years. Some of your listeners may be familiar with that. And really, I was very intrigued to explore a solution that can help people who may not be those confident cane users. So let me explain... Why don't you describe what this looks like? Let me explain what it is, yeah. So I'm holding in my hand Glide. I'm holding the handle. The handle stretches 45 degree to the ground and then it rests on two wheels. And the wheels are effectively what guides you. So I will move the device forward and the wheels will start steering left and right to guide me, to keep me on the path, to take me around obstacles, and just guide me to where I'm going, whether it's to a door or a dropped curb or all the way to a restaurant that I set up on my navigation app. So it can respond to navigation from the phone? We're working on those integrations so that you can set your navigation on the phone and then it will guide you to that destination. So you're going to be the first one to full self-driving? Yeah, well it is self-driving but it's also, and that's a very important point, it's also actually the wheels are not motorized. So it's not going to pull me around. Oh, okay. I'm moving it forward, I'm pulling it back and the wheels just steer left and right. The wheels can also apply the brakes to stop me, but the agency remains with me. I'm the one that's in control, I'm deciding do I want to go back, do I want to go forward, do I want to go fast. I can even twist the handle to turn left and right. Okay, I can see the wheels turning when you do that. And when I do that, if there's an obstacle, the wheels, the device will not let me turn until it's safe to take that turn. Okay, so a lot of what a C9 dog does in a way, right? Yeah, inspired by that, but we also have definitely inspired by guide dogs. I want to agree to that point, I mean I'm a guide dog user myself, but we also have speakers in the device, so the device will be able to use voice to give you some more information about the environment that you're encountering. The speakers up in the handle? They are in the handle and you'll be able to also plug it into a headset if you prefer that. Yeah, the speakers are here in the handle. There's also haptics in the handle so that the device can warn you to slow down or tell you that you can speed up or that there's a sharp turn coming to the left or the right. So really working together with the device. So there must be a camera on this somewhere? Yep, right up here. So they up in the handle? So we have, there's quite a lot of sensors on the device. Along the bottom there are short range sensors that really help with the obstacle avoidance and local path planning, and then we have a camera right at the top of the handle so that the device has a nice view of all the environment, the space in front of you and help to determine a good safe path to guide you on. Okay, yeah, I can see how you need to know the obstacles on the ground, but also the situational awareness of voice type. Yeah, and the camera can, I mean we're working on line of sight targets for example so that the camera can detect let's say a door and then work out a path to that door and Glide will guide you all the way there. Very very cool. Yeah. So this is an active product development right now, is that correct? Correct, yes. Okay, and do you have a vision for when this might be a product? I do, of course. One that you're willing to tell me about? Yeah, sure. No, I mean we are really expecting to kick off a beta program this year, as in by this late spring or summer this year, I mean we'll see how successful we are in hitting those dates, but the beta program will really give us an opportunity to get devices into people's hands, start to get a lot of feedback from daily use and prepare to launch the product after that. I heard from one of your other compatriots here that you were having a guy demo at who was blind and he started jogging with it, is that true? Yeah, he went a little fast for running in CES, I don't think he saw how crowded the environment was in front of him. Did he run into anything? He did quite well, right at the end somebody just cut across him at almost equal speed and they had a brush, let's say. But no, I mean the device is definitely working to support good walking speed, I mean I say to people we call it glide because when you walk with it you glide, you know, and that's really the experience that we want to empower of this. It's a very smooth experience, you walk, you're confident, you're upright, you're heading where you want to go and the device keeps you on a good steady pace and you feel empowered and confident. Very good. Do you think we can do a demo of this? We absolutely can do a demo. Should we do a video cut and then move and then go do, because I know you're doing it at a little less crowded area? We can do the demo at the back, yeah. What do you think? Where are my demo guys? We might need to do a cut because we are not quite organized. We'll do a cut and then we'll move. Okay. Okay, so I'm going to close my eyes. So you've got the device in your hand? I do. Okay. So let's get it to stand first, so now it's sitting down. Okay. It's a nice angle here. You hold it in this hand and when you pull it down to angle, it will be ready to go. It'll get on its legs, on its feet, on its wheels, you'll feel it and then when you walk, just feel where it's going and follow it. Okay. I'm not going to follow directions. Don't let it run away. It's not going to tell you anything. If it starts going to the left, just go with it. Don't kind of let it hang on the left by itself. Okay. All right. You'll get it. Here it goes. I'm closing my eyes now, tilting the back. Oh, there, I felt it. All right, I'm just going to start walking. I have my eyes closed. Oh, it wants me to go to the left a little bit, a little bit to the right. Oh, I can feel it gliding me, go a little bit to the left here. I'm hoping somebody will tell me if I'm going to run into anybody. Oh, oh, I've got to go this way. It just stopped me. I wonder if Steve's standing in front of me. I bet you anything, he just tried to stop me. All right, I'm still going. This is pretty gentle. I can definitely feel just us. Yeah? Okay. Steve wants me to try turning around. You go in front of me though, Steve. All right. Oh, okay. I'm turning. It's letting me turn. It's letting me do a sharp turn. I'm still going around and I want to start going straight now. Oh, I'm going to go right, left, a little bit jerky back and forth there. All right. I'm going to walk a little faster just to make everybody nervous. There it goes. I don't know if I'm going to run into anybody here, but so far, so good. Yeah, I can definitely see. Oh, there we go. There we go. I don't know if I went around somebody. It's interesting to do this and not know whether I'm just missing people or whether I've just, I'm completely alone here. I can't actually tell. But I think I'm going to stop here and turn around again. All right. It wants me to turn around. Should I go back anymore, Steve? Go back. Walk a little bit more. Yeah, this is very natural. You can definitely see how this just feels really comfortable. I don't think I've hit anybody yet. All right. I'm going to stop. So I'm going to bring it up at a high angle and it just put itself to sleep. There we go. Yeah, yeah, that was great. All right. Let's close it off here. All right. I'm going to say goodbye to you here because we haven't actually conducted that work. That worked really well. That was very, very interesting. I understand exactly what you were describing. I could feel what it wanted me to do. Now it makes sense. Yeah, it really does. It really does. Thank you very much. So one more time. If people wanted to learn more about Glidance and the guide, where would they go? So the best thing to do is to go to glidance.io, glidance.io.gli, d-a-n-c-e, .io. They can register. We are taking registrations in advance of our pre-order program and they can just register for more information. And we really look for feedback. We look for thoughts. We look for people who want to talk to us and engage. And Allison, I just want to say thank you very much for having this discussion with me. My pleasure. My pleasure. Thank you very much. Bye-bye.