 We're joined here again now by Johnny Savant and Carolyn Gale guys. How are you? Great doing very well? Thank you very good. Now. How many teams have you guys been to I? Don't know. I started attending in 2003 and made it to all of them since then. Okay. I've been coming since 2008 Very nice. Yeah, and now you used to work at the J ref actually right? I did I was the guy handling the applications as they came in and help design testing protocol with Randy for the million dollar Challenge for the million dollar challenge. Yeah, did any of them actually concern you at any point? I'm afraid you're gonna lose the million dollars. I know with with Randy's expertise on how to set up the the tests I had no worries. Okay, so now Carol, let me see your hand. This is something you found. I check out this rock folks, okay? Now this actually has some sort of relevance to Tam. Am I correct? Well, we met at Tam 7, right? So yeah, so three times so three years ago in this is in these very hallways We fell in love and started coming to Tams ever since Randy and J ref actually brought us together. Yeah, so that's awesome. Yeah, gotta love it. Cheers everybody clap. Okay Just pretend like you hear the clapping. Oh, thank you. You're so kind now being as though it's Vegas Are you gonna have an Elvis marry you guys? No I want to go to an Elvis wedding at some point and I've never been to one Well, we're thinking about getting hitched next year at at the amazing meeting. So there's still a chance If you guys are not planning on coming yet, you got to be here next year If not if for no other reason just to see these guys get hitched Absolutely make it out. It'll be a party So what are you guys looking forward to this year most? Oh? Seeing all our friends. Yeah, it's a big reunion for us Since all the presenters are so approachable you just get to know them over the years So it's like a big homecoming instead of a conference All right, well look guys Johnny Carolyn. Thank you very much for joining us. Have a great time