 Welcome back to the perfected health podcast. This is episode 11. I am back with Victor Cazetto. And today we are going to talk about Candida, which I've done several videos on, but we've never gone in-depth, especially with what I've learned over the past several years. Victor, what's going on today? Hey, how's it going, Frank? Glad to be back. Looking forward to talking about this Candida stuff. Yeah, in fact, we've been planning to do this for quite a while. We just haven't been able to hook up. It's been a busy time. Yeah, we want to do ideally like podcasts every two, three weeks on this stuff just to kind of bang out all these health topics. And this is a huge one. I think I get comments every single day on one of my videos about Candida or SIBO now, and especially with the high radiation environments people are in that's really inhibiting organ function. It really makes it easy for bacteria, especially fungus to proliferate in the gut and really just wreak havoc. Yeah, definitely. And I think I'm not even sure like all your listeners, like you say, you get a lot of comments, but a lot of people really aren't aware that Candida is probably, if we want to say the root cause, but the cause of a lot of their symptoms and they just don't realize it because their doctors don't know, they don't know what's going on, but so many people suffer from Candida overgrowth. Specifically, I should point out Candida albicans because there's many different kinds of Candida, they're not really all bad guys. Even the bad guy, the Candida albicans is still useful if it's kept in check. So Candida overgrowth, I think is really the right context for people to keep in mind because a lot of people just like want to kill, kill, kill. Oh yeah, yeah. That's right. Cause when people like, they say, oh, I have Candida and then you're like, oh wait, no, hold on a second. Everyone has Candida. Everyone has Salmonella. Everyone has E. coli. Everyone has staff. Everyone has all these different types of bacteria and fungus in their stomach. And if they're in the correct ratio and you're on a healthy diet and a healthy environment, everything's happy together, but some tend to proliferate in the context of poor diets or poor living circumstances. Right, exactly, exactly. So I guess you like the, like in so many people do suffer because in the modern or standard American diet, there's so many refined sugars and refined carbs. And that tends to be a really, maybe one of the most popular or most common factors for why Candida gets out of control. You know, just too, too many refined sugars, too many refined carbs. And so sometimes it's really easy for people to get it back in balance just by changes in diet. And if their biome hasn't been wrecked, you know, if they're not in total dysbiosis, the body can readjust and it'll be okay. You know, so, so a lot of times, I don't know if I could say for most people, but for many people, just good dietary guidance can get rid of Candida, right? Or can get it back in check, we should say, right? To restore balance. Yeah, thankfully most people aren't in like a super, super severe state of gut damage where it's gonna take them, you know, six, seven months to years to fix their health. And if you do go to a regular doctor or physician, you might actually end up in that scenario because you'll go to doctor after doctor over six, seven, eight, nine, 10 months a year. And they look at you like you're crazy because Candida isn't really viewed as an illness in the medical literature. You go to gastroenterologists, they're just gonna give you proton pump inhibitors which will lower your gastrointestinal capability, which will just make things worse. So if you keep going to those doctors over that period of a year and you keep consuming toxins or whatever, that's just fueling the Candida and making it worse, you can end up in a really sick state where then you have to dig yourself out of the hole because you couldn't come across the right information to fix your problem. Right, right. And don't forget that antibiotics make things worse too. And some of the people are always getting pumped with the antibiotics. The doctors that are a little bit better will prescribe antibiotics, obviously not the best ones. And the antibiotics for some people, it's a temporary, most people it's a temporary fix. You know, it'll bomb out the Candida but then two, three, four months later it's even worse than before. Excellent, excellent doctors. They will prescribe specific antibiotics and things for SIBO that will bomb it out and then they'll prescribe probiotics that might work. But at the end of the day, you don't want to bomb everything out completely over that long of a period of time because that's going to that's going to damage more than anything. Yeah, I'm a big I'm really against using the antibiotics for any of that stuff because I just for me, like you said, you know, it's like a short term. It comes back with a vengeance, right? So if someone's got a really serious case of Candida and it's not just dysbiosis, it's most likely rooted in heavy metal toxicity and that makes it, and so if our body is loaded with heavy metals, not only are we more sensitive to EMFs, right? See, we get this negative feedback loop going on. And because the Candida literally grabs the heavy metal ions and builds it, builds those into its biofilm. And so even if we do biofilm busting and stuff like that and temporarily get rid of the Candida, but your body is still toxic, the Candida is just going to grow back and it's going to build those very strong biofilms. Yeah, from the physiological perspective, people need to understand that Candida is a good thing. You know, it's trying to get rid of the toxins in your body. So if you take antibiotics and you kill the Candida, it's just going to die there, leave more toxins because it's now dead fungal tissue, as well as the toxins that it picked up. And I actually did a video in depth on all of the different antibiotics and pharmaceuticals that doctors do prescribed for SIBO and Candida, if you guys want to check that out, but this is going to be focused more on like what Candida is, why it happens, how do you fix it? And then later on we'll go into more severe circumstances and long-term solutions. But yeah, let's emphasize more on Candida being like a healing fungus. Like for me when my liver was really overloaded with iron, the reason I got Candida was because I started drinking milk and the lactose in the milk, the sugars were feeding Candida and the Candida was growing and trying to suck all of the iron out of my liver. And then the Candida is expelled in the bowel movement. You know, it's not like the Candida is just staying there permanently or digestive tract and doesn't want to leave. It's being expelled with regular bowel movement. So it's trying to detox your body and in extreme circumstance. Right, right. Yeah, so I think that's a really good thing to emphasize that it's not evil, right? It's actually, there's actually a good purpose. There's a positive reason why it's happening. It's like we could say it's trying to help you by getting rid of heavy metal toxins by even consuming the excess for fine sugars and carbs, right? So, and then it just gets out of control. Like we can relate it to like other bodily functions like a fever, right? If we get really sick, the body, the fever is a defense mechanism. The fever goes up to kill off whatever the issue is. And yeah, sometimes if that gets out of control, it's an issue. But basically it's one of our defense mechanisms. So it's not this, it's not inherently evil. So we just got to get it back and check. And we have to, we got to figure out what the Candida is trying to tell us, right? Like maybe it's a dietary adjustment we need to make. Maybe it's heavy metals. We need to get it out of the body. Couldn't be stress, right? It's, and of course, you know, all these crazy processed foods that are, you know, right, there's a lot of hidden toxins, a lot of hidden sugars that people don't realize. I think one of the bigger myths to also talk about, and one of the first things people mentioned in the context of Candida is the sugar and carbs feed Candida. And technically speaking, that's a good thing because the Candida is going to grow more and pull more toxins out, but that's also not tolerable by your body. If you're just consuming sugars and carbs and your stomach is just one giant fungus, you're going to feel horrible. You're not going to be able to sleep. You're going to feel like you're dying. So you want to find a middle ground of consuming, you know, a balance of nutritious foods like animal proteins and fats to give your body what it needs to detox. And then the carbs, the fiber, the sugars, that type of stuff is going to help the Candida grow and soak up the toxins. But then you also need probiotics to keep the Candida in check. So it's a matter of finding a fine line and a balance. And I think all of the conventional wisdom out there on Candida is really incorrect. But yeah, let's go into, I guess, the first step of, you know, how do we remove these heavy metals and what type of diet are we supposed to follow? Right, so if we start with the most extreme example with the heavy metals, then I always like with my clients, clients for example that have tried to use various like biofilm busters, you know, antibiotics, a lot of different plants, medicine, the idea of attacking, but they can't get rid of the Candida. And so I'll use the PBX, PB zeolites, bentonite clay, even folic acid, and I'll use specific brands and in combination with Kefir, MSM, magnesium, which we talked about. And the reason why I have the magnesium and MSM up here is because they enable us to detox much better, right? So like magnesium is one of the limiting factors in our detox ability. We'll burn up a lot of magnesium when we're detoxing. So, and the same thing, MSM, which provides sulfur and helps with methylation, it's gonna improve our detox abilities, especially at a cellular level. So yeah, the combination actually, if you can do all of those things for really, really talking about someone that's toxic, right? If that's the root cause of that Candida overgrowth, overgrowth, using especially the PBX zeolite with Kefir, it's gonna break, it's not only gonna break down the biofilms, but the Candida won't, it won't have a reason to build the biofilms anymore because the heavy metals will be gone. It's not immediate, it's not an instant. So this is something that takes more time, right? Cause you're really pulling out the root cause, trying to get those heavy metals out. And look, they could have been building up for decades in people. So sometimes it takes a long time, it's hard to predict, but you can see it, if you're getting tested, you'll see your heavy metal toxicity is going down. So you have the zeolite, the clays to help kind of bind to and pull the toxins out of the body so they're not being reabsorbed too much in the digestive tract. Then you have the MSM and magnesium, which are two cell components that people are usually heavily deficient in that helps speed up and fuel the detox processes. So where does regular like cowl and clay or just regular soil clay fit in there as well as charcoal? Yeah, you could use those too. So for example, for, it's interesting when we talk about clay, cause I will often use a combination of three different clays because every clay, like from, you know, it's like endless all over the world, it's a little different. And different clays will have different affinities, meaning they'll be more strongly attracted to one toxin or another. So they work together. And it's the same thing with the zeolites and the clays combined, and you can even throw a full of acid in there. They'll all have slightly different affinities. So it's just giving your body even more support. When we talk about the, like if we go away from the bentonite to ilites or the kaolinites and such, they're not as strong at pulling stuff out. So it's more delicate. So some people, maybe they can't handle it. They get a stronger detox reaction. They just have to go more slowly. And for example, also at a bentonite, we have calcium bentonite clays and sodium bentonite clays. And the sodium bentonite clays are swelling clay. Some people can handle it really well. It's good, but maybe they need something more delicate so they can use a calcium bentonite clay, which still has got a very strong pull, but it's not a swelling clay. So it's a little bit easier in the detox. Yeah, just to interject. I mean, this is kind of confusing to some people. I think I spoke about clay a couple of years ago, one of my water videos. There's a couple of main groups, like kaolinite clay. So when I talk about kaolin clay, that's predominantly like African clays. There's... It's a mild. It's a very delicate mild soft clay. Yeah, yeah. A lot of times I'm like facial masks and stuff. There's Montmorillonite, smectite, and bentonite is a derivative of that. That's the smectite. Yeah, yeah, that's all the same. Yeah, that's what the volcanic stuff is classified in. And those are very popular in Europe. And then there's illite clay. And I don't remember where the illite clay is from, but they're all over the place. And then for each of those three main categories of clay, you have subcategories and things that fit in here. And they're depending on the location and region. Right. Yeah, it's really, really complex and it's very confusing because then there's different... You'll hear different marketing terms like a green desert clay or a red desert clay. But they're bentonite clays, right? And so it's... Because they come... They're still the same process, right? They're basically from a volcanic source, but different places around the world and exactly how they were formed was a little bit different. But their structures are very similar. And then the big difference for us is how gentle it is or how strong it is or how it matches to our body. Yeah, whenever clay is brought up, I think of geophagio, which is the term for when these people would make clay patties and eat them for minerals. And for when they were sick in certain cultures and tribes and groups of people. Yeah, yeah. Historically, I mean, clay has an amazing history. And there's so much information we could just like talk endlessly for hours. And I mean, there's books out there on it and there's so many different ones. Like people can debate, you know, what which clay is better than another and you can never wonder. And to simplify it even further, you're basically putting dirt in your water. And that might sound kind of weird to people, but when you drink it, it actually tastes like, it's almost like you crave it if you have like the right type of clay or if it's like it has certain mineral content or you're deficient in certain things. Yeah, yeah. And they're right. And they'll all be unique. You'll even see animals that will have their favorite places to go for clay. Animals that have access to different clay, like elephants, birds, they will seek out clay. And they'll have, they'll also have their favorite sources because unlike us, right? They're much more in tune with what the body needs. They have better sense of their sense of smell and taste. They can, especially cows in the field when farmers give them mineral supplements, the cows can actually smell which mineral they crave and need and they'll go towards it. Part of our poor development and recent dietary history has like given us a worse sense of smell and put us out of touch with what our body craves. I mean, people still have cravings like for chocolate and pickles and ice cream and stuff, but it's not nearly as in tune as what animals are capable of sniffing out. Right, right. And they don't tend to have dysbiosis, right? So their senses aren't really being distorted like ours are. So yeah, it's really crazy. Like I try to work with the clients to try to get them back and touch with their intuition and their senses, but that's difficult, right? Because like you're saying, you know, we're just kind of, we're desensitized and they were also driven by fear. We live in a world of psychological warfare, right? Of being seduced by things. So it is really complicated. So even for me, when I can recommend the type of clay for a client, but I tell them, you try to listen to your body. You might want to switch over and use something different. Don't just automatically follow what I recommend, right? So yeah, so we kind of jumped the gun a little bit. You know, so you have Candida, we know what clays and supplements you can take that are high priority. I mean, obviously you can basically take every vitamin and mineral supplement in the book from B vitamins to iodine. And it'll probably help you in some capacity if you're deficient, which most people are. But in most cases, just by cleaning up the diet and consuming a good probiotic, you don't have to worry about too much of this stuff. Right, that's true. I mean, so like the GAAPs diet is a good example of that. Where it takes like two years, you know, for people, that's like prescribed to people with autism. Yeah. To eventually pull the aluminum out of the brain. And it's just really about cleaning up the diet, you know, taking out stuff and then slowly reintroducing as you figure out where to clean sources of food, et cetera. So because we are, if we have clean foods, you know, and clean air and clean water, we're like indestructible. We'll overcome anything, we'll recover. And so when we talk about, you know, the things we're talking about now, like the clay, the zeolites, et cetera, it's because we've fallen below a certain threshold and we just don't have access to the food. You know, not everyone can, but yeah, if they can do it. Now these tools that are available do make it easier for us, so they do make it quicker. If we can afford them, right? So if people have a budget for it. Yeah. For the dietary context, the quick switch is go organic everything and see how much better you feel. But for people that have like a strong willpower and they're able to stick to only a few foods, I usually suggest people like the safest protein source is just really lean grass-fed beef. You don't have to worry about what they're feeding the chickens or the pork or whatever the eggs. You don't have to worry about what they're giving the dairy cattle, just really lean grass-fed beef is an excellent safe protein source. You don't have the extra fat stressing your digestion and liver. And then you want some clean carbohydrate sources with a decent amount of fiber, like just organic white rice or even organic pasta for some people. For fiber, you can have like organic beans, cannellini beans, organic artichokes, organic cauliflower. And then maybe some, if you want something sweet, like some fruit here or there. And then for fats, coconut is very strong antimicrobial. So just that small base of foods like lean grass-fed beef, organic white rice, organic cannellini beans, organic apples and coconut. So if you want to only stick to five or six foods and be super strict with your diet for a week or two and then start introducing stuff, I think that's a great balance of fats, carbs and protein. But speaking of coconut, I mean, we definitely have to kind of debunk these antimicrobial protocols, which are probably doing more harm than good. They probably flush out the candida in the first day or two and then they're not reintroducing probiotics. It's just, it has to be so much added stress on the liver just processing the antimicrobials which are essentially toxins. Right, right. It's putting a heavy burden. So I like, I don't use those things. I actually, I love plant medicine, right? And I respect it, but I don't really use it with my clients because I don't like, because you get stuck in a cycle. You're killing it, it comes back, you're killing it, it comes back. So I stay away from like caprylic acid is often used in combination with like oregano oil. Yeah, I mean, I followed those protocols for months when I had candida to try to fix it. You and disilinic acid, berberine, oregano oil, thyme oil, clove, wormwood. If you can name it as an antimicrobial, I've probably tried it. Grapefruit seed, black seed oil. There's there's two, three different. And then they have the broad spectrum supplements. You can buy a candida cleanse. You don't have to buy each of these individually. You could buy MCTO, the capriac, all the different types of acid. Right, right. And look, if you have a severe candida overgrowth, you might have to do one or two days of the protocol just to clear it out and then you can incorporate the probiotic. But the only thing that ever fixed it for me was just the probiotic itself, water kefir, a high quality probiotic. Right. Yeah, yeah, so the same thing for me. So like I saw clients that same thing they did like everything you did. And then I was like, look, Kefir and the PBX, you're going to get rid of the candida. And you know, and these are people that have tons of experience. And then sure enough, finally, boof. And the key is that, right, when you're using the detox components, now it's gone for good. I mean, of course, you go back to a bad lifestyle. You know, it's going to come back. But I mean, you really get rid of the root source when you start taking out those heavy metals. And when you go to something like kefir, I mean, you know, it's just such a powerful probiotic. And again, and that's something you're incorporating into your lifestyle. So it's not like, OK, I got to buy this drug or supplement to temporarily blow this up. And then your lifestyle doesn't change. And it's just going to come back. So yeah, I mean, that's having kefir, I think, as the basis for the solution, regardless of what the root cause is, if it is just the, you know, the poor processed foods, kefir is going to be displacing some of those. Have you seen that? There's like a tick tock sound. It's like, if you're not doing this, where the fuck you at? Like, if you're like, if you're not, I was going to say, if you're not drinking kefir, where the fuck you at? No, just being being silly. But the interesting comparison between kefir and antimicrobials is so you take an antimicrobial, it bombs out the candida and then the antimicrobial passes through and then the candida can grow back. But that antimicrobial is also very stressful and damaging to your liver and organs. If you drink the kefir, the lactobacillus and the bacteria in the kefir actually eat the candida, then they stay there. And the most important thing is the kefir is not stressful on your liver. It's actually helpful for your body. And you can you need something that's sustainable that you can do consistently. Like when I was taken, I probably did more damage to my liver, taking oregano oil than than I did just letting the kid needs to very yeah, you're getting kidneys in. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. A hundred percent. Yeah, like you can see I got so many stories from people that again, they've gone through the same experiences that you did. And then you go with kefir and sometimes kefir alone is enough, you know, because, of course, you always want to be fine turning other things in your diet. Broth is actually very good. Again, if it's really quality, you know, you make your own good food at home. It's so good because it is. Again, it's providing you with magnesium and so many other new minerals and B vitamins. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. So the double fermented kefir is amazing because of the B vitamins, too, which are important for detox. And if you if you ferment it too much like me, you get to get drunk, too. It's maybe a positive side effect for some people. I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't drink. You know what? I'm glad I brought that up because the reason a lot of people get Candida is actually alcohol. Yeah, I've heard a lot of bigger. Yeah, a lot of young women who go out drinking all night and then have pizza and eat shit. And then they come home and then like a couple of months a year or two of doing that, they have Candida. A lot, a lot of alcohol related Candida issues, too. And if it's the liver function, you can't digest the food. The fungus over grows. Right. Right. Yeah, it's really bad stuff. You know, there's one thing. There was one other thing we didn't touch upon. I was almost going to touch upon it before because when you were talking about the fats, I actually like a high fat diet for a client. It depends because everybody's so different. You know, I mean, we know, you know, it should be somewhere between 30 and 80 percent of your calories can be fat, according to what we know historically. But there's a there's a key thing here. So if you if a person is having a hard time with fats, so by getting them into a high fat diet, if they can't digest it, maybe they can use ox bile to help give them a kick start, a head start. And there's a very interesting thing because ox bile or just bile flow in general can help bile is really good for helping to break down also the biofilms and it's good for just lubricating your system. Right. So like a lot of people, their digestive system isn't working right because they've been on their too low fat diet. You know, they've been on a low fat a low fat diet for too long. Right. So that's something for us to be aware of. And then, of course, there is also like you were saying earlier, some people can't handle the fat. They need to give the digestive system arrest, you know, the liver arrest, etc. But it's something else to look at. So again, just speaking to the individuality of people and how some people may be going consuming more healthy fats, of course, not not canola oil and all that stuff. Yeah, because you would again, you would be eating the healthy meats, right? You would just be enjoying the healthy meats. Yeah, let's give a let's give a percentage. So I would say really, really stressful liver damage, low fat, maybe anywhere from 15 to 30 percent of the diet should be fat. I think like the fat from the fresh beef as well as like coconut or MCT are probably the easiest on the liver. And then in other scenarios, as you said, you can increase the amount of fat as it's as long as it's not coming from vegetable seed oils. Right. Right. Yeah. And I'm and like I said, I'm not I'm not afraid of ox bile because there are so many benefits to that because there's other things, too. It helps with vitamin D. Um, there's a lot of interesting things about ox bile. I don't normally recommend it. Yeah. Well, you have and encouraging people. You have enzymes on your your board there in the back. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of love I kind of lump ox bile and with enzymes in the sense that it's it's a digestive protein that sometimes when our our liver is inhibited, our bodies aren't working properly, just taking stuff temporarily. And then that's really the goal with anything when you try to fix a health issue. There might be some things you have to do temporarily, like take ox bile, take an enzyme blend, like I have the macronutrient enzyme blend on organ supplements. I think I sent you one to try out again. You don't want to take that stuff for, you know, for two, three, four months. You want it just a few weeks. Hopefully that should be enough and then and then everything should be fixed because there's nothing's better and less stressful on your body than real food. And then you're getting it like if you've got a few you've got a ton of enzymes from your career, too. I can't speak real food. We did a podcast on Kaffir, Kiefer, however you want to say it. And out of anything we speak about today, I think it needs to be like highlighted that Kiefer here is the takeaway. If you're not, that that should be that should be in huge, gigantic text on your back and you can barely see the other words. Kiefer, Kiefer, you got to drink it, make it properly. I have several videos on how to make dairy, Kiefer, water, Kiefer. You can buy water, Kiefer grains on my site. I think I mean, one thing we never spoke, what was like, what about can you actually just eat the Kiefer grains? Is that going to be nearly as if that's probably going to be just as effective as drinking Kiefer, although a lot more expensive. It's not equal, but so I talk about that to my videos. Like you take your extra grains, right, with people that get the grains that I'm making their own and just take the extra grains and put them into your, you know, your shake that you're blending up, you know, for your second ferment because the the distribution of the microbes is very different inside the grains. And so because some of them proliferate much more into the milk. So when you take the grains, the ones that are maybe a lot less in the drink itself, you're going to get a shot extra boost by eating some of the grains. So it's nice. It's nice to just consume. It's kind of crazy. They're selling these $30 bottles of probiotics when they should just be selling $30 bottles of Kiefer grains. Yeah. And it's much more potent. Well, I tell you what, so I have a client that cannot really tolerate milk yet, but continues to grow the milk, Kiefer grains and just consume some of the grains and can tolerate that. And it's so it's a huge boost. You can't exactly replace the drink itself with the grains. But yeah, both together or one, if you can't do the other. Yeah, there's there's too many. This you have the surface area of all the bacteria and just an incredible amount of B vitamins that are. Yes, one of the most important things for just what people and especially what people are deficient in and not absorbing properly. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, that's that's a really big thing. I think it's even a big thing in I don't want to bring up the topic of things we should not speak about with certain current diseases and such. Oh, yeah, you know what? Yeah. But a lot of there is there were some really good write ups. A lot of some scientists and doctors believed it was actually because of vitamin B deficiencies. And there's another disease called Berry Berry, which is it's because of vitamin B deficiency. So again, right, if you've got kefir and especially if you got double fermented, you know, that's a good amount of B vitamins coming into your body. Healthy, we've spoken about like the less like this is a hypothetical less severe Candida infection. Maybe you just need to fix your diet. Definitely incorporate a little bit of probiotics. The key for that, that's something anyone should do. You should be good to go in a more severe circumstance than you start incorporating the zeolite, the clays, the magnesium, the MSM. Right. But in it, let's say you are that person that's been going to the doctor for two years and Candida has turned into CBO, CFO, a small intestinal fungal overgrowth. Let's say the Candida is really severe. You can't sleep. Your body is not digesting food. You're losing weight. That's that's where you might actually have to take an antimicrobial protocol have to then supplement actual physical vitamins and minerals to replenish your body and just bomb out that Candida. So your body can actually digest the food and absorb the nutrients. That's definitely more severe circumstance that you would definitely want to consult with someone on. I've had a lot of people come to me from naturopaths that aren't really too sure what they're doing. It never made sense to me as, you know, I've seen a couple dozen protocols that these naturopaths are doing. And not one of them has recommended the key for which to me is mind boggling. Right. Right. It's been crazy. Yeah, yeah, when you do get into that, that's severe, severe CBO, CFO state. That's where you kind of want to utilize all information you have access to and understand that the priority is get your body to digest the food you're eating. If that means taking antimicrobials and enzymes and then you start gaining weight again, you feel like the food's digesting. But whatever you do, if it's not working within several days, you got to alter things. You got you can't stick to one thing and hope it's going to work. Right. Yeah, you got to get away from it. So yeah, that's for me. I never use those things because I usually am trying to get them right to the long term. But like you said, you'll know after a few days, it doesn't work. And CBO is really about mortality. And I have a lot of clients that they got rid of CBO using the PBZO light, which is it's just a bit larger. It's larger than the PBX, so it doesn't go into the blood. It's like a small as it can be without going right into the blood. So it gets as deep as possible into the digestive tract. And some people responded really quickly with PB to get rid of CBO. Yeah, the body has a tendency to want to absorb nutrients when it's not necessarily a good thing. The body wants to absorb toxins. So when you have the candida or whatever in your digestive system, and the body wants to digest and absorb what's in the stomach, the reason you consume the clay, the zealot and stuff is actually to flush it out because you need to flush it out. You don't want it sitting there. Yeah, exactly. And drink lots of water without diluting everything in your system. That's a little bit tricky for people, too. Sometimes people go overboard with water, but most people don't drink enough when they're detoxing, right? When you need to detox, you need to flush out. And I think one other thing was good. I think it's good to mention people don't realize that fear is also one of the best electrolytes because like people tend to go crazy because if you go overboard with electrolytes, you're going to tax your kidneys. Yeah. So people should really. I mean, basically if they're eating healthy, if they're following a good diet, then they have, then they're good on the electrolytes, right? So just, yeah, a balanced diet is just so good. You bring in the good foods. That means you're going to displace the refined sugars, the refined carbs and all the other toxic processed foods. And those good foods are going to nourish it and help you to get rid of the Candida. And then, yeah, you know, I mean, there's there's so many. It's just endless. Actually, the enzymes you have to sell. I mean, those are also pretty good for helping someone try to bust through, you know, to try to bust through biofilm in a lot of those easier cases. Yeah, yeah, if it's not a real severe overgrowth. Right. The enzymes, especially the like the proteases, it'll just eat through all the proteins and stuff and kind of digest, digest the Candida and break it down. So your body actually absorbs the nutrients instead of it just sitting there. And, you know, one interesting thing is that, you know, Candida has only really came up since our new Wi-Fi high radiation environments. You know, I don't think Candida really existed like in this context, you know, 30, 40, 50 years ago. But once once we have all these cell phones, everyone's on Wi-Fi all day. All of that, you know, electromagnetic radiation is passing through our digestive system and inhibiting organ function. The main thing to take away from that is bacteria and fungus are relatively unaffected by radiation compared to living things. Well, they're both living, but like the actual people and larger beings with more. There's a lot. There's some studies that say that their DNA is altered, possibly more, which really is hurting the bacteria and fungus. Yes. So which is which is what hurts us, too. So you're we're actually getting a double whammy. You know, it's a lot. There's still a lot of that research going on. But so I've seen stuff that says that, yes, they're not obviously like you're saying, right, we're vulnerable, our organs are vulnerable, but also our biome. So with the biome being altered by the MFs, again, that makes it easier for the Candida overgrowth to take place because all of the right, because we should have enormous diversity. The bacteria are you saying the bacteria are more sensitive to the MF than the fungus are? They're I don't know if it is more or less. I'm not sure about that. But just in general, the microbes there, the DNA is being impact by the MFs. And so and so that would disrupt their natural because they exchange DNA. I mean, so they right, they they evolve very quickly and they adapt. And so the food you're eating, that's why Candida. That's why even if you have a really bad Candida overgrowth. Yeah, it's fueled by sugar and carbs, but it can switch to eating fat and protein, too. And if the and if the Candida morphology switches to fat and protein, then you're you're in trouble. If it yeah, there are. Well, the morphology issues are really pretty scary thing, but I don't want to terrify people. Yeah, yeah. Well, we won't yeah. We won't there are very rare circumstances where if you have a large amount of toxins in the body, then regardless of what you do, the Candida will continue to change and adapt. But again, the key for and the healthy diet is what mainly alleviates that. But right, the MF Wi-Fi stuff is why I'm in a canopy right now. This is a silver canopy. I wear my shirt and underwear all the time when I go out. I sent Victor a canopy. Can't see mine here, but I got to do that. I got to get mine on the screen. But yeah, it's important. And I think, you know, out of everything we've spoken about, this is something everyone should be doing as well. You want to reduce the Wi-Fi radiation stress as much as possible. And just by wearing protective clothing and sleeping in a bed canopy, two things which are not really invasive to the average person's lifestyle, you can effectively reduce the MF exposure by like 60, 70 percent. And then when you do additional things, like keep yourself on an airplane mode, hardwired devices, reduced household EMF, that's where you get upwards of 80, 90 percent. But I've had clients come to me where their brother installed a computer room next to them. And they just started having all these health issues. And regardless of what they did with the diet or anything exercise, nothing helped it because the radiation was that high and they couldn't tolerate it. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, some people are really sensitive. You know, like here's another thing, too. So the more toxic, the more sensitive. Yeah. So like these tools help those people so much. I mean, they help all of us because, you know, you're just more sensitive to EMF when you've got more heavy metals. You get the heavy metals out, your sensitivity will go down a bit. Doesn't mean that you still can just bathe in EMF all the time, because it's just such an unnatural state for us, which is really unnatural. And yeah, for sure. For some people, it's all about the EMF. I mean, yeah, different people tolerated differently, but especially in the past few years, now that the devices are are becoming stronger and more there's just so many more of them. And everyone's everyone has a Netflix device on their TV and Alexa cell phone and now more and more. It went probably from like five percent of people being EMF sensitive to now like 15, 20, 20, 30 percent of the population is noticing. And I saw a post yesterday of like a woman's husband bought the new five gram cell phone and she started feeling pains in her copper IUD. The just stuff little things like that. And people people can't figure out what is it? And then the the person that knows what's going on. Hey, it's there's metal in your body. There's all these frequencies around us. It's it's it's like a magnet. It's it's sucking in all that frequencies and dispersing it around the area of the metal. And yeah, as you said, the more time if you if your liver is full of iron, a lot of toxins, a lot of heavy metals, it's it's just absorbing more radiation, which is why, you know, if you just wear a protective shirt, your organs are protected. It's it's a good way to to ensure that digestion isn't being impacted too much regardless of where you go. Right. Yeah. I mean, that's a really easy win to reduction, you know, just shield yourself the best you can, you know, reduce what you can, then try to get the toxins out. Yeah, so we're not helpless, right? There's so much we can do. We can also become aware, you know, where we position ourselves. Like I have one. I have a one of the trimeters that I use to check a house where I'm so I can figure out like where's the worst place or the best place to hang out. So there's not everybody needs to. I mean, a lot of things are just visible, you know, you can you can see where the don't don't hang out next to your your power panel. You know, don't be leaning against that. Yeah, I mean, if you if you if you move away from the if you away from move away from the circuit breaker box and sleep in a good canopy, you're you're basically good. You know, if you do have control over your house, you know, if you're not in an apartment, if you're not living with family, if you have more control over what you can turn on and off, that's where you can start really turning off all devices, making sure you're basically in a really low Wi-Fi environment. But this ties back to like most people don't have to correct these things to fix the problem. But again, some of these more extreme things we mentioned are necessary for optimal, optimal health. And when you do them, even if you don't think you need to, you feel better. Yes, definitely. Yeah, I mean, like I I tell all my clients also get get the PBX, try it. Like they can, in fact, I don't know if I sent you I got to send you a link because there's a special offer where you can get you can try it for less than fifteen dollars and a lot of people will feel an impact. You know, normally it should take a long time, you know, for us to get the toxins out, but we're all toxic, you know, we're all toxic, you know, and there's so many things that we can do and it doesn't have to cost a million dollars for us to clean up or at least to aid our body, you know, and at least reduce the impact of the EMS. Yeah, if you if you haven't been like grass-fed carnivore for a couple of years, you would definitely benefit from the toxin removers. For me, I was in a very unique isolated scenario where my candida overgrowth is being caused by an iron overload, whereas like the average person might have dozens of different toxins and metals overloading their liver. For me, I was basically clean because I'm eating organic grass and meat all day. I'm not eating anything else for years and years and years. So my body basically removed all toxins, but it made up for it with an excess amount of iron. So, you know, that's an interesting point because, you know, that'll happen with copper, too. We have to be real and there's a risk, in fact, like it's really kind of trendy to supplement with zinc. Very bad. Any time someone tells me they're supplementing zinc, I say, don't do it. Yeah, you know, like you should eat oysters because they have copper because the zinc copper balance is really tricky in the body. And if we take just zinc, it can cause copper ions to start freely floating in the body. So what the diet is, it's too high in zinc and people become copper deficient. Yeah, yeah. Stands in America. Stands in American diet. People are deficient and usually both. Right. Right. Yeah. So look, man, right. Life is complicated. The human body is a complicated thing. But if we just follow a good diet, you know, and and these things, too, like these are coming from the earth, right? So like we're talking about the zeolite and the clay and even the folic acid. They're natural things. They're things that the earth is giving us, things that animals seek out. So again, we're not we're not relying on the pharmaceutical companies. We're not even talking about going crazy with plant medicine. Sometimes you do. I actually I actually do like berberine because it helps in a lot of different ways. But again, these things should not be used, you know, long term forever. Yeah, there's just a lot of ridiculous stuff. Like, you know, powdery arco tea. It's that's very good stuff, actually. The teas I really like. I'm glad you mentioned that. I forgot to talk about that. Teas are still good because there's so many excellent tea. There's the main candida ones, I think, are powdery arco, uva, earthy and olive leaf. Now, powdery arco is, to me, the best tasting one. And I'm assuming it's the least stressful on the liver. Uva, earthy doesn't taste that great, but it's not it's OK. Olive leaf is very bitter or stringent. I'm assuming it's pretty stressful on the liver. Yeah, it's right. So so I was going to say exactly what you're you're actually alluding to is that you get a lot of these teas are really good because you just again, you just incorporate them into your life, right? They a lot of them are really good for hydration and instead of just drinking water and they have additional benefits. So you're not like just trying to kill something. They have many benefits. It's also a reason why I like berberine. Like a lot of people like sell berberine as like a candida killer. But I don't view it that way at all. I don't see it that way. So I don't so I don't mind berberine. I think berberine can help a lot of people that are, you know, struggling with their blood sugar balance, et cetera. So yeah, so a lot of those things, I'm glad you mentioned the tea, because there's so many good teas. Yeah, I wonder if you could use a I wonder if you can infuse water capable with powdery arco. I wonder if that would kill some of the bacteria in the kefir. That'd be interesting. But that is interesting. Yeah, I think I think that the teas can be used as a more mild antimicrobial. Yeah, and use that. Right. So you just use them, I like to say, as part of your normal routine because it's additional hydration. Yeah. So we and we don't need to mix it, right? So I used to use them as the I used to use them to drink to take all the antimicrobial pills. So what I would do is I would take I would take my oregano oil, my capric acid, unicic acid, berberine, the dozen things I was taking that were destroying my liver, and I would slug it down with a very concentrated powdery arco tea so that so that it would basically all of the nose. That's if you want to bomb out your stomach, hit me up, because I know what to do. It is basically like all of those capsules and oils and very like astringent, toxic, like caustic, very burning oils would basically burst with the powdery arco and anything there, it would go through. You know, you're not encouraging people to do this. So just to be clear. No, no. But there's also this guy. I don't I don't want to say the name of it, the product. But it was it's used as a pool cleaner. And if you take it with a scorbic acid, it completely flushes out your digestive system. It was a type of sulfur, actually. But something less crazy than that would be like a sea a sea salt flush, like a saltwater flush. There's a lot of different things that and crazy stuff that people have tried. But we want you guys to understand that we've researched this stuff. The crazier person in here has tried it. And we're telling you to stick with the diet and the kefir not to do anything that's going to potentially damage your body. Right. Right. Exactly. I mean, it's exciting to talk about, you know, talk about bomb and stuff. But yeah, in the long run, because in the long run, we want to actually adjust to a healthier lifestyle. And so these other tools, yeah, they'll make it happen. Just find those good food sources. Let's talk a little bit about fall of a gas, because I've never really done a video on fall of a gas. And well, there's a lot of like Shilajit nonsense going on. Yes. So, you know, that's that's a very good way to start it off, too. You know, I had not talked about folic acid a lot because it was very hard to find a product that I can trust so that the quality varies dramatically. So I actually only recommend what you thought you flew to the Himalayas and got the gorilla poop for us. No, no, not myself. No. But actually, so I use something called boo folic acid. It comes from Canada and it's it's a pretty cool story behind it. And it's like triple the amount of folic acid of other products. Like this is the really tricky thing, because folic acid products don't have a lot of folic acid. Tell people what folic acid is first. So it's a very small molecule. So you've got humic acid and folic acid. Are these really good? They're organic compounds, right? So they're basically it's like, you know, somewhere in the earth where a bunch of organic things died, plants and animals, and they've been decomposed. And so the organic matter is decomposing, decomposing. And if you go a really long time, like you mentioned, Shilajit, you're getting to the point where this stuff becomes fossilized. And so there is folic acid in Shilajit and with a lot of good minerals. But it's in this fossilized form at this point. I actually do like Shilajit. But again, quality is a really big issue. Yeah, I mean, I'm not drinking black tar, buddy. So yeah, yeah, it's a really it's a really Shilajit looks like black tar. Yeah, yeah, it does. It really does. So before you get to that point, right, you've got humic acid and folic acid, which is still like a lie. What does you miss the word for soil, right? You miss? Yeah, yeah. So you're getting that right. So actually, like it'll be like you go to like a peat bog, like where they get the folic acid is from a peat bog. Or it says very similar. It's all this idea. You've got all these different things as organic matters decomposing in the earth. Naturally dirt from a bog. And I'll skip on. Yeah, yeah. Well, actually, yeah. But of course, you know, they go through and they it goes through some processing, but you're still getting basically this organic matter. And so it's a it's another really good. We could say it's a great electrolyte because it was like over 70 different minerals in it. But the key thing for me, like I actually don't care about those minerals because in our good diet, we got to fear and another stuff. We got minerals. Right. But the folic acid and humic acid is really good, too. But folic acid is even better. It's smaller. It's like a tiny version of humic acid and it can go everywhere in the body. And so it does several things. It's it's a great carrier. So it will help deliver minerals throughout the body. And it's great at also oxygenating. It'll bring oxygen into the cells. So give you energy. It has it has a lot in common with MSM, even though they're totally different molecules, a lot of similar benefits. It's like MSM is feeding sulfur, folic acid will feed you other things because it'll actually carry minerals and it will detox. So it will also grab heavy metals. It's not as good as as a Pbx eolites because it's actually doing some we need to do it. We should do a whole podcast on each of these. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty complex, but it's it's really good. So like I've got clients that use all of these things together and the folic acid you can use as a foot bath, a face mask. But quality, again, is really important. So one thing I'd like to contrast, like when we talk about the clay, like good clay is everywhere. You still want to be careful, you know, you don't want to be careful. But you can basically get good clay anywhere. You really don't have to worry so much about brands. But when it comes to the folic acid and the zeolite, the Pbx and Pb, I will only work with the one brand. I'm laughing because this girl on Instagram sent me like a DM of her eating clay from her backyard once. Oh, my God. I yeah, I you know, I don't mind that. I mean, it's still a little word because our environments are so toxic and unnatural, right? I don't know how pristine her backyard is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. You know, an elephant in Africa eating clay is different from us going into our backyard. So yeah, so we do want to be a little careful. So I'll I do like to use brands that I feel comfortable with. But they're just with clay. There is there's a lot of good stuff. So I guess we didn't talk about like people start freaking out when they see Candida in their bowel movement, which kind of looks like string cheese. Oh, right. But that's a good thing. I always tell when people freak out, hey, congratulations, it's coming out. Well, assuming that you started doing things to help help it come out. Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah. But if you if you do take the probiotics and the water key for the the lactobacillus and the the beneficial bacteria is just going to eat it. So you should have a regular bowel movement eventually. Well, yeah, but you can still like because when you start to really kill off Candida, it can just start falling out. Yeah, but it should be time for everything. It shouldn't be shouldn't be right. It's not forever. So that's why it's a good sign you're winning the battle. You know, you're winning the battle. It's a good sign it starts coming out. So you don't have to panic. There's another interesting thing, you know, when especially with milk, if you want people to milk fear or any dairy, right? Dairy increases your body's ability to produce mucus. And now mucus is another fantastic tool that the body uses. If the body can produce enough mucus, it's going to use mucus to flush out toxins, right? So you'll get more mucus flow if you can't produce it. So because some people panic, oh, my God, you know, I'm getting a lot of mucus out and also congratulations, you know, sometimes it's an indicator that, you know, something wrong is going on because you ate something bad. But again, if you're able to produce the mucus and you were toxic, and that's good, you're starting to get it out. So yeah, so I don't worry when I see stuff coming out. Yeah, I think I think we've touched on basically everything we need to on Candida. I mean, the basic protocol is start cleaning up your diet. Definitely get some Wi-Fi protection clothing. And the more difficult part, I guess, is getting a good, good probiotic because you usually have to make yourself. We are selling the water kefir already made on on Frankie's range foods. Now, if you guys do want to try that out, if you if you have a local farm nearby that makes it, that's great, too. But it can be it can be a little difficult for most people to get their hands on a good probiotic that actually has the correct strains without having to make it themselves. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, kefir is the easy win, right? It's more potent than anything you can buy in a bottle of pills, you know. So I mean, that's really another fermented foods people to even, you know, complimenting that with if you can get your hands on a good yogurt, you know, but yeah, if you can make kefir a top priority, we don't have to talk about stress, but of course it goes without saying and people need to reduce their stress. But healthy eating should help you to reduce your stress, too. So reducing the Wi-Fi and MF, especially to the brain. Yeah, right. All those things are I mean, it's all connected, right? It's all it's we got to take a holistic perspective. It's all connected. Yeah, I think I think we've touched on everything you need to know about Candida and then the specifics, like specific supplement protocols, specific antimicrobial protocols, that's where you can reach out to myself or Victor, if you want to, Victor, if you want to actually reasonable approach me, if you want to bless and stuff and do crazy stuff. No, but Victor, did you have anything else to to mention? No, that's about it. I would say, you know, when you look at some of these things, they're they might look expensive, but there are ways to get some deals. I'll make sure you've got the links for them. If anybody wants to try the PBX. Yeah, I'll just I'll just link your your link, your stuff in the description. They can go and I think you have that link there, right? Yeah, so everything on there. Yep. Well, thank you guys for joining us for the podcast this Sunday. As I just mentioned, we're going to have Victor's information as well as mine linked in the comments below. 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