 مرحباً جميعاً جميعاً، نحن here I'm joined by a great brother of mine، ما شاء الله، عباس، كيف أنت عباس؟ الحمد لله بارك الله فيك. So today I have the honor of bringing you guys a student, ما شاء الله، of جميعا أبن السعود، نه؟ Okay so yeah you guys know how it goes. You guys know how it goes. How I learned Arabic stories is like the name of the interviews or the series of the interviews that we're doing. In case you didn't know our bus. So yeah I mean you guys know how it goes. I ask people who went from not knowing Arabic to knowing Arabic about how it was before. How it was throughout learning and how it is right now. In شاء الله. So yeah first of all I will ask you عباس إن شاء الله. If you can you know give us some background some context about yourself. What you do what you did. Who are you? Okay Praise to you to Allah سبحانه وتعالى and peace of blessings upon our messenger. I'm blessed to be on the bus. I'm blessed to be on the bus. I'm ready for all your efforts. It's a pleasure to be in your company today. Basically I'm 25 years old. I'm a student in رياض. I've been there for the past 4 years. The program is the first 3 years to study Arabic. Arabic معاد which is an institute. And after the next 4 years you go to the faculty. Which is the faculty of شريعة حديث. And you choose and so on. So praise to Allah I've been there for the past 4 years. I finished the معاد. Now the first year of my studies in the faculty. I'm from London. So praise to Allah I'm just a bit by my background. No. Okay. So going straight into the questions. Before learning Arabic. Before learning Arabic. But after you decided that you wanted to learn Arabic. What kept you up at night? Like eyes open staring at the sitting. So praise to Allah since I was young. I used to go to the madrasa which is to learn Quran. And the religion from a young age. And I'm a parent. In London right. Yeah from young. So praise to Allah I used to go to some Medina graduates. About 3 of them. And one sheikh that graduated from رياض. So they had an institute. Where they used to teach us Islamic studies. Quran and Arabic. So I see them. I used to think wow. They learned the religion of Allah. And how it's been in it. And how they were teaching the youngsters. And when I was young I was about 13 or 14 at that age. At that time. I think I would love to be like these sheikhs here. And how they had the knowledge I had about the religion. Especially Quran. And when I was young. Since I was young I had a passion for Quran. I used to think to myself. Wow. Allah is telling us some stuff. I don't know what Allah is saying. But I feel the energy. I feel the beauty of the words. Yeah. If Allah سبحانه وتعالى send the Quran Arabic. So if I don't learn Arabic. I'm not going to understand what Allah is trying to tell me to say. So that's what really pushed me. When it comes especially like the love of the Quran. Kept me. Which to learn Arabic. So that's the main thing that kept me up at night. Because to learn the Quran. And the religion of Allah. Allah سبحانه وتعالى. That's something that I really. I am always impressed about the Somali community. You know. I mean. They could be. They could be as. I'm me as you want. But the Quran is always the Quran. Yeah. The kids always go into madrasas. And they always memorize the Quran. Insha'Allah. No. So learning right when you got to. Since you already mentioned it. You learned Arabic in the. In the Mahad of the Jamia. So when you. When you reached there. And you know. You was about to start learning Arabic. Because you didn't learn Arabic in the madrasa. When you was younger. Right. No. Okay. So what was you afraid of. Like the main things that was. Making you. Afraid of. You know. Your journey in the Arabic language. The main thing that got me. I was kind of afraid is. You know. When you go. When you learn a new language. The first thing that comes to your head is. If I say this. Are people going to laugh at me. If that happens. Like. Like. So that's the main thing that I had. By the same time I was thinking. For me to learn. I have to make mistakes. And if I can. Like. If you want to do something. You have to. For the mistakes. Then you're going to learn. So I thought. Same time. That was. I was scared of that. If I say this. And because I went to Saudi Arabia. And I was thinking. If I say. Are they going to laugh at me. They might think. This guy. Shakespeare. Error. Try to speak. First time. Stuff. So. That's the main thing. And also. That's. That's the main thing. Just. Just. Being scared of falling into mistakes. And it's. It's a. It's a. It's a human thing. So. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. That's funny. Because in Egypt. I mean. It sounds like this to them. Like. Like. something. Of your Arabic. Something. That's all I know. You know. And it's funny. Because how it keeps happening. Like even. Right now. That I just got here tomorrow. I feel. Like. I remember. When. I was looking for an apartment. I went into. Like. A real estate agency. And. And I was here. They always. On the ground right. So it was a bunch of. Of people. I stepped in. As. As. كل شخص يفعلون بأنه يتحدث about what is he talking about and in Egypt it's even funnier because Egyptians are known to be even when you go to Mecca they are the loudest of the people and they are always funny even in the Arab culture they always have the most TV shows and comedy shows and stuff and so I was in Egypt it happens that he happened actually this actually happened I went into a taxi first of all I have two stories the first one I was in a taxi and I asked him to turn off the music and even the way I said it right now it was kind of like you know kind of like Ammi and he was like I can't even Arabic I don't understand and then another time I went into a store like a bakala as they say in Saudi as well and I entered and I asked for salt I said السلام عليكم هل عندكم من الملح هنا he said ساق الله العظيم يا شيخ عايز يا طيب he said ساق الله العظيم which is what they say after he finished resigning the Quran and then they say طيب what do you want I said الملح لديك ملح ملح I said الملح لديك ملح so you know like classical Arabic is always is always a quote-unquote funny nowadays you know so okay so what were you not not knowing Arabic what were you angry about and who were you angry at if there was anyone that you was angry at I was angry at myself for actually no point emphasis when I was young to actually learn Arabic that's the main thing it can't be no one else but myself and the second thing is the first thing who was angry at and what was the second one what was you angry about like something that kept happening and because you didn't learn Arabic that made you frustrated something that kept happening was I kept to read the Quran and I understand what I was saying that's what everyone says yeah that's that's that's that's one thing and especially listen to like scholars and not knowing what they're saying at all so even someone who used to come to London I was and I used to think and they used to be translators I was thinking I wish I understand what the sheikh was saying directly instead of someone being in between us so that was that was the thing I was really really upset with that yeah that's one I mean that's the main the main two mainly now in the West when scholars come in and you just have to wait until he finish explaining whatever page of the book for the translator to do his best really to try and make you understand what he said so okay so all right so what was well you you already answered this this question I was about to ask you what secretly you desired the most of learning Arabic and you said kind of like you wanted to you was looking up to these students of knowledge who came back from from overseas so so let me go into the next one what was the turning point or you know whatever happened that made you say okay now I really need to learn Arabic or was it you know no I was cool so I was thinking I talked to him about Medina and the stories that I had stories about Medina and I said I had the story that I used to tell him about Medina and listen to this sheikh we see that scholar that scholar I knew the scholar's names but I was thinking I've never seen him before and like oh Subhanallah I have to go like they had a big تاثير on me especially when he goes was it going to go seek knowledge in general especially the Arabic so they had a big effect on me and a couple of friends that I knew left that left from you London that I went to go study Medina though they had a big effect on me as well so so it was kind of kind of gradually kind of thing yeah as a graduate thing yeah yeah especially the stories of Medina that they really actually or I really really like forced me to go and yeah I was thinking on Arabic yeah definitely okay so what was the timeframe in between you deciding that you want to study until you actually you know got the opportunity to to go to رياض time frame was maybe about one year or two years of that one I want to really mention on YouTube and about sheikh and scholars and a lot of lessons they see online and then coming down to London that from me seek knowledge I thought that's it I have to leave I have to go seek I have to go I have to get accepted I have to find a way out I have to find a way out I have to find a way out I have to find a way out because the teacher makes everything easy you understand it the teacher makes everything difficult that's going to be hard I've seen some of it that when they when they hear Arabic Arabic can't stand it just it's too much and then you tend to realize if you ask them it goes back to the way the teacher went through because well what we went through in the محاد in the industry in رياض and Arabic faculty was it depends the teacher some teachers will come to you and when they when they're when they're teaching the subject they stand it completely even grammar you know how grammar is in Arabic is really it's difficult yeah you get it you make you understand everything this is the grammar they screw about it's like that subject and then the semester after that you have another teacher makes everything difficult if you can forget this I'm giving up but the method that we used to have was what especially one teacher I really really liked when these we teach Arabic from the from the get-go in the محاد because his method was I'm not going to teach you no grammar we're going to take words every day we're going to take words and we're going to point it to the sentence and then we're going to start having conversations with the same words using the words so that's the best method I've seen for myself personally and people in my class that benefit from and at the end when you finish all that and we used to go in the which is the محاد was four levels so the first two levels if it depends every time you change the teachers so when I have that teacher he supports in groups we speak have conversations using the same words that we learned then after that gradually you'll teach us grammar grammar will come at the end so that's the best method I've seen personally and I've seen a lot of people when it comes to teaching Arabic a lot of people I've seen in the West especially when it comes to Arabic they start with grammar which is I disagree with you should start the person start with words in English for example when you're teaching a person in English you don't start with grammar no use them word in sentence day by day then you see them gradually learning and then after that you can speak with the grammar definitely I completely agree with you because I mean that's as you know I have an online program Arabic online program and that's what we focus on we focus on learning the language not learning you know aspects out of the language to understand the language which is like for example grammar and morphology and stuff like that so and I know for a fact that these how you learn a language because I you know I've learned French out of you know not me not being native at it I've learned English like right now I'm speaking in English I have learned English and I know what was the process of it I didn't go into I mean even right now if you asked me to be honest I couldn't even tell you nothing about nothing about grammar or anything like that you know I mean in terms of like in the Arabic language I mean in the English language so it's definitely learning vocabulary and learning how to communicate and this is what I tell my students because at the end of the day you you know if you learn Arabic for your Dean you want to learn you want to be able to read the books to go to the sheikh and ask him what does this mean and be able to understand the explanation in Arabic what he's trying to explain to you in Arabic and most of the time that doesn't have nothing to do with you knowing you know if you say كان محمد عالمان it doesn't have nothing to do with you knowing if this is more for you know yeah so definitely agree with you man so for how long did you study well how long was the program for Arabic it was it's 3 years but the 4 levels just take 2 years so there's another something called diploma which is after just extra but the main whole faculty the whole institute was 2 years so you didn't take the extra diploma no I didn't take it no what was your feelings throughout you know when you like in throughout those 3 years what was the feelings like feelings were it was mixed emotions feel like sometimes I want to give up I say I'm in a photo book so I say I'm done sometimes happy sometimes it was stress especially exam season so it was mixed feelings I can't say it was 24 7 go down 27 bad but it's seeking knowledge in general for you like you mentioned before the main thing for us to seek knowledge to learn Arabic is not just because it's for the sake of it the main thing is to learn our religion that's it what people think when it comes to Arabic only for Arabic for you to learn your religion and grow gradually and learn from the scholars and sit down with them like you mentioned go straight to them you have to learn Arabic or you're not to learn Arabic you're being a stranger in your religion definitely that's the main thing everything I'll message you it's called Arabic so you have to go you can't really read English books for the rest of your life okay while learning the Arabic language do you have aha moments and I don't know if you guys understand this term in the UK like aha moments for example for me it was like when we when we were studying and we learned الماضي المضارع والأمر how do you even use the أمر and then I understood the أمر how to use it and then I was praying once and I said اخفر لي اخفر لي and then I was like aha now everything makes sense because I have been saying رب اخفر لي all my life since I started practicing but I never knew what it was until I actually learned Arabic you know the tense of the أمر so do you have any kind of moment where you was like okay this meant this okay this meant that there were but that's a question I need to think about the answer for that there was but I'm literally disnowing my head now when I think about I'm sorry about that so what was the daily what was that you always had with you while learning the Arabic language daily books daily books in Arabic or in English if it was in English if it was in Arabic but you know for example for me at least I always had the the dictionary the Arabic dictionary and and my which is where I had all my all my words and verbs that I did memorize already that's why I couldn't go anywhere without those books in my bag in my bag the main books I used to have was translation always in English both sides and which is I used to have the the main books especially the writing books I used to have anything I used to for example I used to write it down so yeah that's the main books I used to have so if you were to rate your conversational skills from 1 to 10 without being humble what will you say Arabic is the language if you're not speak like using Arabic you're going to forget a lot of stuff I would say 8 so I mean with you I feel confident that we can I mean we can I mean we can I mean we can I mean we can إن شاء الله أسألك سؤال واحد بالعربية و تجب عليه إن شاء الله so ما ما نوع الفصل الذي كنت تفضل هل كان جماعي أو جماعي أو خاص و طبعا أظن أن أنكم ما كنتم تضرسون خاص لا ما كنتم نضرس خاص كنا خلال 20 طارب تقريبا كنا في الفصل أنا أفضل خاص بعض الأحيان عم مثال إذا لدينا إختبار يعني أراجع أفسي ثم أذهب إلى أستقائي و نراجع معهم فهذه الطريقة أفضل خاص من المؤمن طيب أخير إن شاء الله طيب أعتقد أنه أعلمات أخير في العلمات الأربية أعلمات أخير يجب أن يكون أخير يجب أن يكون أرمي يجب أن يكون أرمي يجب أن يكون أرمي نعم يجب أن يكون أعلمات أخير لكن كما قمت بأمور عندما تبدأ كذلك لا تفضل when you gradually pick up then you can go deep into it يجب أن يكون أرمي أرمي أمر وزيد حسنا كيف حقا لديك أعلمات الأربية و أعلمها في حياتك و كيف تفضل now كبير الحمد لله أستطيع أن أفضل كبير أفضل القرآن فقط أن أرمي كبير لديك أعلمات و أفضل قرآن و لديك أعلمات لديك أعلمات إلعبوا المستقبل كبير كبير كبير هل تريد أن أرمي أريد أن أبدأ now لا تريد أن تفضل فقط أفضل فقط أفضل now فأرمي نعم ، لذا this is actually the last question is what will you advise for the person that knows and acknowledges the importance of learning Arabic and he wants to learn but doesn't know you know where to start or just a general advice for anyone who is willing or wanting to to learn the Arabic language جرنال اضافيسه first make your attention clear for the sake of Allah that you want to learn Arabic so you can uplift the ignorance from yourself and to learn the religion of Allah سبحانه وتعالى and learn the way of a messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم I will say you know a lot of people when it comes to you learn Arabic and some people can leave the country and go ايجبت but some people can't so those that can't don't act like that I can't do nothing like I mentioned of course you're doing I'll definitely I'll definitely find courses online like you just mentioned you can say at home you can gradually like learn one to one with you I'll definitely definitely the internet these days you can learn a lot of stuff I know it's good and it's bad and it's good but there's so much good on the internet you can learn like from the roots even now even some schools they used to believe that going online and it's haram videos now they see big effect it has on people and then that said they tend to go back so definitely because you know that the thing that online can do has a big effect so I'll definitely recommend to find online courses that are convenient for you for your time and because a lot of people might be working and it's hard for you to go seek knowledge and some people even some but as I know personally they will love to seek knowledge but they have to look after the parents family to the oldest so I would say recommend your course 100% 110% yeah that's definitely I mean technology right now man it's crazy man I mean for myself and I will be honest when I started practicing it was only because of you remember roadside to Islam yeah it was a video I mean the stories for me coming from Spain where there is I mean we don't have communities like you guys have in the UK or you know in France in the US in Spain literally I still don't know a brother I still don't know a brother in Spain that I can that he can relate to me in terms of you know or scholars or whatever it may be it's super rare you know I mean so so technology I mean social media and stuff like this definitely you know and there's something that I was about to ask you as well if you don't if you if you see yourself maybe in the near future teaching online or you know benefiting people or yeah you know yeah definitely one of the main things I want to do just why not man why not but as Mr. Salah Salan said see it's a person when he leaves things consistent chariots it's beneficial knowledge man so I definitely definitely definitely would love to teach on Arabic online so in the near future I'm 100% Insha'Allah so would you like to to let people know where to find you if they would like to contact you or for what I want yeah on Instagram AbbasKadeef we're going to have Insha'Allah in the description Insha'Allah yeah on Instagram email so yeah mainly Instagram okay Insha'Allah so I mean we we we done with this with this interview man it was a it was a blessing having you on honor how are you today in here likewise everything good what are you doing keep up so guys all the viewers thank you for tuning in thank you for watching again if you guys would like to give us feedback or something that you didn't like or suggestion whatever you may be living in the comments below and tell us what do you think about learning Arabic in the journey and if you would like to as well jump in an interview just leave it in the comments contact me getting touch Insha'Allah والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته