 I'm going to speak for both John Chambers and myself. Both of us firmly believe that we do not want to compete with our partners. And an important set of partners are going to be served by the partners. So we stand up, big clouds, to say, no. That being said, we have to learn. This is now I'm talking for you as the owner. What we have to do is learn. So as you probably all know, we own Mosey Green, which does PC backup. And we want to take a guess on how many petabytes we have. We manage Mosey. We just went over 75 petabytes. 75 petabytes. So we are managing. That's a much bigger scale than Amazon's management, for instance, just the store. So well, the reason we did that, by the way, we make no money there, the reason we did that is to learn how to manage petabytes at scale in a cloud environment. The lessons that we're passing to are served by the partners, the blueprints. We'll have cloud. We will also provide an application developers cloud to make them for free on the developer and our sets of technology. But it's terms of getting into what you're talking about, the cloud business to make a profit and compete with our service providers. We will not do that. That is not our plan. And I know, speaking of John, that is not his plan. But you learn a lot by doing. And that's why we do Mosey. That's why we're going to do the application cloud. When you get petabytes and petabytes, we have well over 1,000 customers that have petabytes. That's just the thing. We get our first 1,000 customers. We have well over 1,000 customers that have petabytes. And you know how much your friends should think humans can manage that? Or you better, you know, you've got to trust the automation. And that's really where we're going. So these two worlds, so part of what he's saying is true. But it's going to be a different world in the future. And we have to react to that world, not the current.