 What's good Josh boros back again with another video somewhere talk about Paul Heyman talking about the shoot promo he did on Vince McMahon this was right around the time of the Alliance versus WWF story angle and it was right before Survivor Series of that year where Vince kind of let Paul Heyman do like a shoot promo on him like kind of led he let him say how he felt and Vince didn't say anything or whatnot so we're gonna talk about that and and the brilliance behind that whole situation since we just found out that Paul Heyman is the first inductee of the 2024 WWE Hall of Fame class which you know it makes sense WrestleMania is gonna be in Philly this year he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame class or just in Hall of Fame WWE Hall of Fame period because the guy he is very brilliant when it comes to wrestling and and how wrestling should be and and just his delivery on setting up matches and promos over the years have been just top tier Paul Heyman can definitely sell you into a match he can he can get you to buy into a match and and more or less it's kind of the same here even though people wanted to see WWF versus the Alliance they have been building it up he definitely was a pivotal part as well in getting people to buy into it even more like there's some there's some realism here so classic classic promo segment from him if you ever seen this on YouTube go check it out Paul Heyman shoots on Vince and the fact that Vince is kind of let him do that because he knew Paul Heyman's talent is just a testament to how good Paul Heyman really is when it comes to just the wrestling mindset and how to get people in the building so we're gonna check this out let's get right into it man I went up to Vince halfway through the day and I said do you even want to know when I'm you know some of the that I want to say anyone no draw me money okay are you gonna say anything back to me no just draw me money sounds just about right one of the first things you did when you got to WWF apart from commentate with Jim Ross was when the invasion story line was happening and ECW became a part of that and it lasted about what five months something like that how did you feel as someone who had like we talked about before so much time with ECW you're now in WWF and they're bringing the name of ECW back to do this storyline and it culminates in survivor series where the Alliance has taken away but a few days before that show you did that promo and Smackdown on Vince McMahon it's like 11 minutes long I think people remember it where you said things like you know you you took Hulk Hogan's blood and created Titan Tower whatever it was it felt like that was almost like a culmination for you to get that and get that all out in some way is that would that be accurate for those of you who will remember the Monday Night Raw that preceded that promo they did a vignette on Vince's plane with Mick Foley where Mick Foley tore into Vince and Vince was just eating fruit and not paying attention to what Mick had to say and Mick laid some pretty heavy shit on Vince and Vince just blew it off and ignored him you know in terms of well you know well this is the way things are and I don't give a shit of what your opinion is and we were heading to Smackdown and Michael Hayes Michael Hayes the fabulous free bird WWE Hall of Famer I might add and author of bad street USA knives like Michael Hayes on the plane looked over at Vince says you know if you really want someone to do a shoot promo on you Paulie over there rip your asshole yeah fucking why you know it just it was a detail lion's just been such a unmitigated disaster for all of us involved you know both again I was on the writing team and on camera at the time so on both you know on both ends of my career is just like oh god I wish this would just end already and it was ending and we're heading towards the conclusion and Vince just looks you know Vince is on the plane and the funny thing was just like with Mick Foley he was legitimately just sitting there you know eating fruit or something just goes over and goes want rip me an asshole yeah fucking why figuratively literally that definitely sound like Vince that sounds like Vince would what he would say while eating some fruit like you want to do this Paulie fuck it rip me in half that sounds that's Vince he's like fuck it go ahead whatever and you know it had been a while since I had done one of those ECW style shoot promos and you know man you want me to rip you an ass lia wide as this guy over here found out the guy to do it you want to want me to shoot I'll shoot okay how far can I go as much as you can to draw me money okay that I can do that I can do I can draw you money I rip you an asshole yeah why let's do it and we got to smack down and I knew I wanted to invoke the name of a bunch of the promoters that he ran out of business and I knew I wanted to invoke the name of his father because I knew his father I worked for his father I was a teenage photographer and if you guys remember that promo man he went in they gave him damn that like 10 minutes to just go in and Vince didn't say a word he mentioned his father he mentioned the other wrestling territories that he ran out of business even though his father had shook their hands and said we would never compete with you when his father died guess what Vince did compete it with them so he was he was really blending that that line of what really happened what was real and incorporating it to the storyline where as a fan and I don't think that promo was really truly appreciated until later in like years later I think it's been appreciated now obviously because of how you know just fucking raw it was but at the time I don't think it was appreciated as much as it should have and that's just how it really is a lot of times in life with not even just wrestling just people in general it's not appreciating until later on but yo he was going in that used to get paid for my pictures by Vince McMahon's father and so I felt I had the right to invoke his father's name which is a no-no unless you're gonna say his name with reverence and you know we had done the angle where I turned Vince's children and we've done it a hundred thousand times since but this was this was I turned both of them on Vince at the same time you know where Stephanie comes out on TV and goes I just want my father to die you know okay so we know we're going with the death of the father from at the behest of the daughter you know with with the endorsement of the son and night I said okay you know let's see how far I can take this and the only thing that stuck in my head was sports entertainment versus wrestling sports entertainment versus wrestling if I can just get that hook in people will really go fucking aim and it's shooting on Vince McMahon and so I came up with the line you made wrestling a dirty word didn't you Vince and I went wow that's that's the core and as long as I can build this promo around that core I have no idea what I'm gonna say out there but I know that's the message I want to send that ECW and you know the alliance wrestling and you you scumbag barrel-chested Irish fuck you represent sports entertainment you want superstars we want wrestlers you know and then that's the core of it so to his credit I'll give him a ton of credit I went up to Vince halfway through the day and I said do you even want to know what I'm you know some of the shit I want to say to anyone nope draw me money you know I'm all right okay are you gonna say anything back to me no just draw me money you know and you know and and that's the thing about promos like that that you know I wish they would do more of is not rehearsing it because to me I feel like those be the best promos like genuine reactions where you just say fuck it we know the bullet points we know where we're trying to get to we kind of have an idea I'll see you when I get out there and Vince to his credit he didn't want to know all right say what you gotta say made me some fucking money that's it as long as you don't go too crazy and he was even cursing too but it worked it was believable it worked I really hope you know and I want to see more of that you know I really want to see more of that just in general in wrestling like you know just letting the wrestlers kind of go out there say what they have to say bring it you know tied into the wrestling story at hand that they're trying to tell and go from there man I'm all for it we came up with the idea of Taz choking me out at the end you know cuz Taz was no longer really in the ring and he was singing at the commentator table and I just looked you know and I just looked at him at the time as a this big fat fucking butterball sitting with sitting with sitting with Michael Cole that used to be the toughest guy I'll choke you out I'm Taz I'm from Brooklyn you know and now he's now he's just you know the line was and now you've reduced him to being just a commentator and not a good one at that you know you know and then I just told Taz I said you know you know the cue don't you and he was no I said oh you know and I said to him listen the cameras are gonna be tied on us you know late you know bring that choke man you know tighten it up bring it up God bless him for doing it so and I was about to go out to cut the one I looked over at Vince who's eating a protein bar and and I said you want to know anything I'm gonna say here some of these shit's real heavy will it draw me money yeah it'll get a lot of attention kids that I promise you to go home show god damn it bring it yes I'm on my way and so I went out there and for however many minutes it was I laid into Vince McMahon in a shoot to as I recommend anybody that ever wants to do a shoot promo keep in mind the fact that shooting in and of itself is very Vince Russo it does not work no one here wants to just hear me shoot I can shoot all night long and you'll sit there and go this is what gives a shit but if I can turn that shoot in the storyline context and then manipulate what you're listening to into making you want to buy a ticket to where I take that shoot and I make you say you know he didn't make wrestling a dirty word you know what he did make superstars when I want to see wrestlers he did do fuck him man I'm gonna buy that pay because I want those guys to win now that shoot draws money you spot on when you blur the lines of what's real and what's a work and you incorporate it into a storyline it makes it so the fan is like what's going on here even when you can fool the hardcore fan into thinking oh brother there's some legitimacy like some legitimacy here what's what's going on it works you make you when you can't tell the difference that's when you got people so there's anybody that knows anything about that it would be Paul Heyman man so we took this realistic premise which is known as a shoot and we we went as far as we could with the shoot comments manipulated them into the storyline that we were presenting for that Sunday and set forth a segment on Smackdown that to this day as you just learned from Kenny I still get asked all about because yeah people still wonder how was how was that planned what did Vince know how much was scripted etc etc etc and it still intrigues people to this day which is the design of what they call the shoot promo yeah promos are not supposed to be Heyman I know that your wife cheated on you and that your third kid ain't really your kid and people at home go I don't give a shit I want to see two guys fight but if you make that promo something that people can can feel in their hearts yeah and it strikes their passion you know the bubble Ray Dudley always says strike a chord man strike a chord on somebody and you'll sell a ticket yeah strike a chord and sell a ticket that's what we tried to do and to Vince's credit he took he took a ferocious promo said to his face with some shit and I don't think a lot of people ever said to him and he took it so that he could draw money and he didn't share a lot of that money with me because in his mind he probably thought but you got your payday by being able to say that to me yeah definitely sounds about right that definitely sounds about right Vince was not about to share any of that payday with with the guy that potentially even so more you know got more people to buy into the whole alliance versus WWF match I thought a year survivor series but this is just a testament to how great Paul Heyman is he deserves to be in the WWE Hall of Fame and this is just one of the plenty of reasons there's been so many reasons why you can feel like he deserves to be there in the Hall of Fame the guy knows wrestling he knows wrestling in and out knows what stories are going to work they literally aligned him with the Roman Reigns and it worked it worked them aligning him with Roman Reigns is a very big part of why we have the Roman Reigns we have now yes he could have been healed but he needed to align himself with someone that can talk him up even more and then kind of can coach him to find his voice now he doesn't even really need Paul Heyman to talk him up talk himself up he's able to do it himself you can see the confidence and I'm sure Paul Heyman helped with that it's fantastic it's why he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame so I definitely want to check this video out I've never really actually checked it out you know I've you know seen this video pop up in my in my sub box for a long time well not in my sub box but in my recommended videos I just never actually took time to watch it but I did see the original promo statement I've seen it a few times it's really great so comment down below let me know your favorite Paul Heyman promo or Paul Heyman moment let me know down below but I appreciate all love support wrote to 150k and I'm still here on speedy YouTube rest of the world appreciate y'all kicking in with me see y'all 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