 declare boldly and say the Lord will deliver me from every evil work and preserve me for His heavenly kingdom to Him be glory forever and ever. So maybe we can say it out loud and you can just say this with me and the Lord will deliver me from every evil work and preserve me for His heavenly kingdom to Him be glory forever and ever. May this be your experience also just like Paul that may the Lord stand with you and stand next to you even right now and strengthen you and make you able, empower you so that the message might be communicated, that your life would communicate it, communicate the message of the gospel fully through you. Yeah, let's pray and get started. Father, we we thank you Lord. We thank you Lord that you never leave, you never forsake Lord and whether it's in ministry, whether it's Lord anything that we are involved in God you are with us and like Paul and what he experienced God and everyone for Sukhum and everyone left, Lord you stood with him Lord and I just pray Lord may each one of us Lord experience that standing, the Lord standing with us, you standing with us, you standing next to us. Lord I pray that maybe experience today God that your hand upon us, your hand around us Lord your hand Lord your presence with us just encouraging the strengthening and saying I am with you you do not have to fear anything I am with you Lord may we experience that Lord experience that I am God may we experience your presence Lord with us and in us and strengthening us Lord and Lord empowering us so that we might go beyond what we think Lord we can do God that may we go beyond what we Lord the limitations Lord that we put on ourselves Lord Lord maybe go beyond that Lord Father God we pray that you will lead us that you would fill us this morning strengthen us and continue to Lord take us from glory to glory from strength to strength God we thank you we give you all the praise and all the glory right now in Jesus matchless name we pray amen amen okay awesome okay so this is class 2 class 3 I should say Christian leadership last class we looked at just the introduction right we looked at what leadership is and one of the ways of defining leadership not the way of defining leadership one of the ways is to you know is to define it by saying that leadership is about influence for good you know being an influence for good in people's lives to bring about change in one's thinking and behavior and to help either the individual or the group collectively to to reach accomplished goals and and this can be done with or without an official title yeah so yeah I just answer of me 17 and 18 so so we we saw the I mean we went by we looked at the definition of course we know that the scope of leadership really is really vast and you know sometimes definitions can be very restrictive we're aware of that because only so much you can put in and then leave out the whole lot but then this helps us to really define to really kind of encapsulate right bring into focus the heart of what leadership is so so we looked at that and then we also you know looked at how the scope of leadership you know leadership is of our subject so we're gonna focus on three areas leading through time winning with winning with others and then teamwork right and so those are three areas that we are looking at through this through these sessions okay so today let's go to section one and start off leading through time okay leading through time and we're going to look at various aspects which come under this module so we'll start with you know we'll start by looking at the life of Jesus the life of the Lord Jesus and some of the leadership insights right that we can we can derive and how we can actually put to use in our own lives right so leadership as Jesus modeled it and so we can look at it right so you know sometimes we make a differentiation between I don't know if you've done that but you know between make a differentiation in the sense okay so this is what faith is this is what the church says this is what I see in the Bible and but this is how I work in the real world and so I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and but this is how I work in the real world you know I don't know if you've kind of done that you know and this is what the Bible says this is what the principles that I see in the Bible but then you know in the real world I need to work it out this way because people are like this and sometimes in the back of our minds we we have this nagging you know maybe doubt will it really work you know if it works at what cost right so we are you know you're maybe you're working for a company maybe you're working you know for an organization maybe it's like you're running your own business and the thing is you know if all these leadership principles will it seem like you know how do I effectively work it out you know but it seemed like I'm too soft now will it really work how how do I actually do it right and maybe we've had you know be in our own minds we've we've had thoughts ideas and and say okay maybe this is how it is maybe it was you know wrongly implemented even right misplaced truth misplaced or you know truth you know executed in a misplaced manner so it didn't really give us the desired result right so maybe there's this you know so we just kind of demarketing okay you know this guy I really need to shout him down you know I really need to you know this any intimidate to manipulate him and and get the work done and this person you know we might have you know certain things like that in our minds but as we look at the life of Jesus as we look at the leadership qualities he walked in and he spelled out there are some things that we can there are many things that we can learn but if you look at life of Jesus you know here are some things that you know I you know we can we can conclude right now when we you know I attended once workshop called lead like Jesus it's actually something that was started by Ken Blanchard and Phil Hodges resource that was put together by them and so I attended a workshop and and some of which is learnings from that you know the things that I'm sharing are learnings from that so let me just put that here okay so when we look at the life of Jesus we see that he accomplished you know we see him accomplishing a mission with imperfect people okay just think about that all kinds of people different imprimands one guy very impulsive so impulsive that you know he jumps into water he's you know some of these things he does he draws a sword cuts off somebody's year very impulsive you know one one says I know even if I die I will not I will not deny you and then then we see him you know cursing and denying the Lord not just once but thrice you know we see all kinds of things all kinds of people one person who's putting the money you know put his hand into the into the treasure box and the collections and using it and you know okay so he accomplished this mission with imperfect people and his ability to establish and communicate clear purpose I'm sorry purpose is meant spelled purpose and direction right you're gonna look at that we're gonna look at that I think that was one of the first things that we're gonna see the purpose you know he was very clear he said this is what I came to do and nothing would deter him or distract him from the purpose and he communicated that to the disciples though they didn't understand it okay recruitment of people to accomplish the task okay he he selected he recruited the people to accomplish the task okay so training development I'm just putting these things in the chat and of course for the e-learning I'm just reading it out so you would also know so training development and delegation issues he he faced that and he sorted that very effectively well there was there was conflict within the team you know there are people who are talking about who should be the greatest who should sit at the left and right and there was also you know they used the influence or you know they didn't use but then there was influence from the family to you know to try to get that position so and as a result the team had some conflicts so he managed that managing demands of time energy and resources right right from BBC in scripture I mean it's amazing he spent the day I mean he started early or you know early early in the morning he started with spend time in prayer spend time he goes to goes by himself he comes down and it's like the whole thing starts right we we see that they're going from you know one place to another to minister and to you know the teaching and they're traveling and it's it's it's pretty hectic and you know he he was very good at managing the time managing his energy and there were times when he said okay now let's withdraw let's come by yourselves and then rest and and he do he did that right then dealing with competition you know there were others who came and and then he got news of that and said you know there are others who are doing the same thing and they were using your name and and very effectively said you know he who is not against his use you know it was doing the same is sorry he was not scattering is actually gathering so let them be and of course he had faced betrayal lack of understanding by family members he he faced that as well then there was also you know if you look at his life you see there's there was also constant scrutiny and challenges to commitment and challenges to his integrity which he handled there was all kinds of temptation right temptation Satan for the season just brought in temptation one after the other temptation to misuse power temptation to give up the mission then temptation to to turn from the from who he would worship and turn and hand over their legions etc. he faced temptation then this factions rejection criticism opposition phase that and also in his life we see that there was personal sacrifice in in serving the good so you see that the Lord Jesus did all that and and you know if you if you go through you know this entire list we see that you know maybe either in ministry in life in you know I'm just using these terms as separate compartments but we know that it is just one thing you know you could be working in an organization and ministering and serving as well you know working in a company but what I'm just for the sake of differentiation you know that maybe you're what is so called full-time ministry or maybe you're working in an organization maybe you're running a business you're teaching you're whatever right you face all kinds of you know these kinds of challenges these are real issues these are real challenges and the way the Lord Jesus led the way the Lord Jesus lived his life the principles that he lived by he was able to face this he was able to overcome this he was able to manage these things he was able to sort these things out right so so if we have any you know doubts about whether the whether the actual workability of it the feasibility of the principles the leadership principles as as taught as embodied by the Lord Jesus then you know these are just proof that yes that we can our lives we can walk the same path right we can do that and this this works and over and above over and about that you know these things over and about looking at looking at these as just mere principles as believers you and I have an edge in the sense that we have the Holy Spirit indwelling us we have those who is called the spirit of revelation and wisdom and here the spirit of revelation and wisdom imparting revelation and wisdom for us you know moment by moment day by day and not just that but also empowering us empowering our choices in I mean empowering us to make those correct choices or those wise choices so we have all this so there's no doubt there should be no doubt that we can live by these principles okay so we gonna look at even as we look at just we're gonna look at just seven things seven insights about how the Lord Jesus led but I'm sure there will be more but he was going to look at seven things but in our minds we don't have to have any doubt you know okay maybe certain things didn't work maybe there are other reasons why it didn't work there are other factors why you know things didn't work okay so so let's look at this with a you know a fresh right let me share the the notes again the notes are there in the classwork section so you could check that okay so just coming up on screen so let's look at leadership as the Lord Jesus modeled it okay so like we saw last class we saw that the Lord Jesus modeled a very radical a very it was a very paradigm shift in leadership in the sense he came to serve he came to serve others he came as a servant leader and he was not a self-serving leader but he came to serve others and we see that and if we read from Matthew chapter 20 and there was 25 to 28 he he puts it very clearly and said Jesus called them to himself and said you know that the rulers of the Gentiles lauded over them and those who are great exercise authority over them okay so which means that the Lord wasn't like ignorant of what was happening right he was pointing the disciples to what was really happening you know you know that this is the trend you know that this is the leadership style of you know what we see around you know this is what happens predominantly okay and and he's saying you know this is what it is right this is what happens this is the reality of you know what you see around verse 26 yet it shall not be so among you yet it shall not be so among you meaning that you're saying guys you know it's not an option it's not an option of course you have a free will to choose but it's not an option for a follower of the Lord Jesus for a disciple of the Lord Jesus a lot of saying it is not an option yet it shall not be so among you okay but whoever desires to be become great among you let him be your servant and whoever desires to be first among you let him be your slave and just as the Son of Man did not come to be served but to serve and to give his life a ransom for any so so he qualified it said you know this is how it is that if you want to be great if you desire to be a great leader if you if you desire to be you know a top leader top notch leader then this is how it is that you desire to serve you become a servant meaning you you you look out for the needs of others you you fulfill that you serve them and and this is what this is what you do right and it's right after actually interesting to see it's right after you know the sons of Zebedee come and the mother comes and has this conversation so let me just read out then the mother of Zebedee's sons came to him with her sons kneeling down and asking something from him and he said to her what do you wish she said to him grant that these sons of mine two sons of mine may sit one on your right and other left in your kingdom but Jesus answered and said you know you do not know what you ask are you able to drink the cup that I'm about to drink and be baptized with the baptism that I'm baptized with they said to him we are able so obviously they've had a family consultation and mother and sons and you know this is it they said we are able so he said to them you will indeed drink my cup and be baptized with a baptism that I am baptized with but to sit on my right hand and on my left is not mine to give but it is for those for whom it is prepared by my father and when the 10 heard it they were greatly displeased with the two brothers how can you even how can you guys even think about it how can you do this right then Jesus brings forth this he calls them and then he shares so that is the context so he's talking about you know hey let me just tell you how to be a great leader okay let me just tell you how to be a top top-notch leader this is how you do it right you you determine that you want to serve others you determine you know the view that you that you will be a servant that you will serve that minister and then you will be a great leader and verse 28 just as the son of man did not come to be served but to serve and to give his life a ransom for many now whether they appreciate it whether they you know receive it or not you know the when he gave his life as a ransom for many many it was it was of course a great risk you know there are many who did not who would not accept who would not receive right but he did it anyway right so in our serving yeah they made it might be it might be the reality that it will be looked down upon it might not be appreciated but the Lord gives us no option really verse 26 yet it shall not be so among you okay so the thing is to really do it with wisdom and do it in the right manner possible do it with the grace that he gives us and it need it should not be a misplaced one okay so may the Lord give us understanding right John chapter 13 verse 12 to 15 when he had washed his feet taken his garments and sat down again he said to them do you not know what I have done to you okay you call me teacher and Lord and you say well for so I am if I then your Lord and teacher have washed your feet you also ought to wash one another's feet for I have given you an example that you should do as I have done to you now in our own minds you know okay this is an example of serving again practically he did it and he said okay this is what it is you know you ought to do as I have done to you know I being your teacher I being your Lord and I I served you in this manner so as I have given you an example with this action with my life and teaching you should do as I have done to you okay so so he really set the bar he really set the standard I think we have a question okay Shri Kumar go ahead Shri Kumar thank you pastor pastor as you now as you explain the way how how to serve how Jesus has put across a you know a certain example before us so in a corporate you know corporate area how can this this can be implemented like now the way how Jesus did and and can we do the same way yeah it is like many times you know people are not you know the same same same mindset same sometimes people are very rebel sometimes people are very arrogant in that case how you can you know how can you serve like how Jesus washed the feet of the disciples can we do that whether it is really applicable or whether it will work out I just want to thank you pastor yeah yeah so let's say you know you are you have some peers who are who look down on you who are you know very I don't know who are you know very abrasive very difficult to get along with who are constantly undermining you or maybe trying to bring you down okay so so thing is to ask the question you know how can I serve them how can I be a leader in this situation with these people how can I serve them the thing is okay the Lord Jesus also faced a similar you know similar challenges right so now the setting is let's say okay people are there the setting is maybe a formal organization so how can I serve you know one thing that comes to my mind of course others can just weigh in who had you know had that experience one thing that comes to my mind is okay to find out okay what is the challenge what is the need this person is facing with regard to the role okay with regard to the work does he or she need any empowerment in terms of training in terms of skill that I have what is it that I can give okay what is it that I can bring in now so you so that that's something that you know you can think of pray about and say okay what is it in this manner I can serve it could be just some act of kindness you know it's in a very simple way way today a relational thing and just an act of kindness maybe harsh word is spoken but you don't react or respond with even harsher word right so that is again you know reflecting Christ's likeness but you know specifically when we think about serving then you know we can what comes to my mind is that if they have a need if they have a challenge or you know there arises a situation where you know one needs to lend a helping hand one needs to work together it's a team one needs to work together and definitely if you know if there seems to be some kind of a relational tension and you know the normally you know you don't react in the flesh normally we would want to react in the flesh and say okay I'm not going to you know I'm just going to hold back information so that this person doesn't succeed or I'm going to you know things happen you know I worked in a sales and an organization like and I worked I worked for you know in the sales function so there was this company that I worked with we were selling pages we were selling pages and it was a very difficult time in the sense the the paging industry was virtually shutting down you know it was moving on to mobiles transitioning on to mobile phones but we were in that company at the wrong place wrong time you know kind of thing so we would sell one page we would have like three four disconnections the same day people moving on to mobile so it was very the pressure was really so much so the thing is all the sales guys you know we had to there would be some inquiries coming in and it had to be shared with all the sales guys and there would be this you know it will come come to our customer service executives and they would actually give it out so the guys would do a lot of things you know like to to make sure that they get the one person or they would probably give money they would give gifts to the customer service executives just to make sure that they get everything and all the sales inquiries just to go ahead and do that and they would not share with others if there would be no teamwork it would be heavy you know backstabbing and teamwork and so on so so in such an environment you know to be a believer to be like a servant leader it was very difficult you know it was extremely difficult but at the same time I think God just gave me the grace to do that I don't know how to what extent I was you know but of course I was I was having my own issues as a believer in a lot of strongholds but I but I remember you know when I as I was leaving the organization exactly shut down like one of the customer service executives saying this guy is a very very straightforward guy you know all the other guys would come and do this and and this this lady actually there was an office get together and this lady shared that with my wife so there was this get together as a dinner and then she said this is very straightforward I've seen a lot of sales guys very straightforward so it is possible and the Lord would give victory you know the Lord would give openings like in the sense there'll be a call call I'll just go there and it'll end up I'll end up finishing the sale you know and then some some corporate inquiry would come and then so the Lord would give grace so that's that's one of the things right so this is one example that I could think of anyone else wants to you know if you've worked in an organization if you can just help share and maybe it'll be helpful to Sri Kumar and the others also please go ahead yeah sir please correct me thank you pastor so I am a part of organization and we are kind of exploring this so it's a very new organization and we just kind of doing a few things but some one of the things that we constantly are struggling with is defining the role of a leader and the more and more we explore into this at least in my mind what I'm realizing is more than anything else it's it's it comes down to functioning like what is the function of a leader you know rather than a possession so so like for example if if there's a guy whose job is to assign roles like okay you'll be in charge of media you'll be in charge of sound you'll be so so there is a role assigned so we we ourselves select a guy who we think has the wisdom the experience to be able to assign roles and so you can call him a leader call him a driver we're trying I think this leader the word is so heavy you know culturally immediately when someone says leader there's there's an automatic hierarchy position created so that that creates a certain mindset the moment you hear someone being the leader so so for me for us we are thinking of functions you know who who is good for a particular role a particular function and and that person what does that like like you were saying you know what empowerment does that person need what training does the person need to be able to do that function properly and in today's session as you were sharing about the sons of zebedee and and also Jesus washing his disciples feed something that that that I'm thinking of is I don't know the culture then but I'm thinking again the culture there is predominantly of hierarchy you know there's like what first level second level third level etc so who gets to sit on the right hand and left hand are at a higher level than who gets to you know and one of the things that I see Jesus trying to do is bringing about like a flat structure and and saying like you know so it's it's almost like going against the the structure of a hierarchical structure and bringing more of an equivalence and egalitarian structure is is what I'm sensing and and that to me is quite appealing. So in a in a practical setting like Shri Kumar asked you know what do you think would help you know to be a servant leader to serve others you know who may not see eye to eye with you who might you know kind of you're saying rebelling and all that so how can you serve such a team how can you serve such you know such colleagues as a servant leader anything any thoughts I think for me in in that case so two things one is let's say if Shri Kumar was my team member and I'm the designated leader per se so I think something that would help me and Shri Kumar work together would be a clarity in our roles like you know what what what position what role Shri Kumar has and what role I have and and what do we need getting clarity in our roles and functions like what does he need and how can I support him with that versus what do I need and and how can Shri Kumar help me support me with that so I think it just comes down to function and support supporting each other with that food. Yeah I think yeah I think that that word support because you know the roles are defined the roles are clearly defined it comes with a job description you know the time you join etc so they may not be an opportunity to redefine it you know unless it's you know a situation demands that but so in a setting where you know it's it's already spelled out so yeah so what you said about support I think that's that's a good takeaway so like so to say in how can I support despite their personality you know despite despite our differences how can I support and that's a way of selling right okay okay anyone else would like to maybe if you have gone through a real-life you know setting maybe I think that will also be helpful is Rupa here Rupa in your Hagai seminars or the thing have you come across any case studies any real-life settings you can share that also I think we'll take one more yeah first there are like two things that come into my mind one is in a setting where I was actually a manager and I had about 40 plus team members and one of these guys was quite different a believer he was the only believer in my entire team but the kind of attitude that he carried he was different yeah he was different yeah he literally on an appraisal discussion told me that promotion comes from God not you so he he's he's and he so it's like setting the values very clearly I'm standing for them so it's like a raised up role or a raised up salary these are not the motivations when you're working at a workplace when you are very clear about it people really get confused what drives you like you know many a times there are some people at workplace we know that if there is something that is that needs to be done without honoring the values they say this guy cannot do it because that guy stands for the values very well and the organization knows because right from day one he is very hard on standing for the values so you when you want to do something wrong they always pick and choose who who is it good to give that job so you should you should take a strong stand right from day one and do not budge no matter what like whoever it is because it sometimes it's over a period of time you might lose on something momentarily but over a period of time you people will know you for standing for those values and that will help on a longer run there are there will be bigger things that will come on your way and the smaller things that you let go of would would just be a test that you have cleared yeah so values and standing for them so so how do you bring that into serving in a serving kind of a situation so like at the end when it comes to serving serving is not for the individual serving is always in the sense of accomplishing the purpose who what you have called for Jesus displayed servant leadership to show the humility of like the position of what he has come for not the person whom he is washing his feet no we we don't serve in an organization a particular individual we serve the organization as a whole and stay aligned with the vision that the organization is called for so as long as we stay focused on that it's easy to make decisions because the things that come on our way they all come on our way because a boss who is very powerful is asking you to do something that's against the values set forth for the organization then you can clearly make a decision because you are here to serve the organization not the person actually in ethics there are like three perspectives like utilitarian justice and rights perspective you know each one talks about one thing like utilitarian is all about for everyone's common good and involved with justice and the rights we are not compromising on the rights of individuals so we have to look at all the three perspectives and make a decision that serves the purpose of the organization as a leader we are influencing for something good not something that is that's the purpose that has been established not an individual then it becomes more clearer on making the decision right right i think that was helpful yeah thank you yeah yeah rupa i see the scripture that you said thank you yeah go ahead please just few thoughts while we were sharing last time the spirit of god was ministering on to me on those lines on which will be helpful for the whatever we are discussing now i think the one thing is when we study about Jesus servant leadership uh his heart is completely in tune with his master the father god completely in tune with the master and he knows just like uh uh darun has shared he knows his master's plan and purpose completely and he is in in obedience to it and he is very clear about his identity and authority and he doesn't have to prove himself to anyone there uh he doesn't have any ego issues when when he comes to that and uh where i also realize that he's not only self-seeking but he's also self-sacrificing and calling his disciples to a model that to sacrifice ourselves and empowering us to do that and yeah that's what i realize sir and whenever i come across this difficult situation where we most of the time and ministry because she uh brother she kumar is also in ministry we face a lot of opposition a lot of people backbiting and all that is part of the job so when we take it as part of the job and just don't concentrate on those negative things but concentrate on the master who has called us and just do the job as we are doing it on to them and each individual counts i think in the ministry because god in god's side each one is very valuable and we have to respect them and when we start respecting them in spite of what they are doing to us and what they are trying to plan or uh team against us when we stand on this line of loving and serving and just doing a part and uh not talking about them behind and just respecting them over the time we can win them over right over the time it takes a long time it is not done in a uh day or two because that person is very important to god and only god can give us that love for that person because we will only look at them as uh when we see the negative qualities when we concentrate on them the the whole purpose of god is lost and we cannot serve him as servant leaders that's what i learned sir thank you all right thank you so i think both Arun and Rupa uh what you said yeah yeah i brand yeah um yeah please go ahead yeah sorry i forgot yes thank you sir i i'm thinking that uh when we talk about leadership we are talking about management and if we talk about management it means that we are helping people to do what they are supposed to do in the context of christ we could see that we had a standard and his purpose was to help us to meet up with that standard so to me a leader is someone who stands with a standard and also helps the people especially those who are willing and obedient to meet up to that standard so it's not about telling people to do certain things it's not about standing with the people so that they can accomplish their own purpose that in the view of a leader that's what i think sir right thank you thank you abraham yeah so um yeah that was that was a good insight and also yeah like what i was saying um like what Arun and Rupa shared also uh i think the the the main important thing is to not lose sight of the big picture um like in the in the case of uh you know the lord jesus he was very clear about what the father wanted and uh and that was the the big we're going to look at purpose um so that was something that he was going after and um like Rupa also rightly pointed out well people are connected and people are precious and people are part of it right uh but at the same time not at the cost of fulfilling that purpose i think that's what thermo is also sharing like uh well you're serving the organization and people are there but then if if there is a conflict between like serving the organization and serving the people and and not really you know these the the ethics that he shared the utilitarian rights and justice perspectives of the ethics um if there is a compromise in that without compromising that right of course but uh you know uh without compromising that if there is a conflict then uh one has to take a stand right so uh so so the thing is if the the the reason why most times you know uh whether it's uh you know loving someone right you you love them and uh but then love also involves uh communicating uh something in truth right if we lose that perspective of truth and um you know and lose that perspective of holiness and everything it is love um you know we are you know communicating love and you know demonstrating love but we lose the perspective of truth uh in demonstrating love then you know then then it is it is misplaced love right so um i think that's that's when the that's where the challenge is and that's where the problems come in and that's where it becomes you know what people call sloppy agape you know it agape is it's good it's it's very uh strengthening transformative uh empowering but if it's uh it's misplaced uh then it's it becomes an issue yeah so prabhakar shares and he says i think one of the ways of serving as a leader is to show others how to be successful yeah like how they did it kind of declaring that i'm not a competition to you but somehow wanting to see your growth i think that's um very true prabhakar and and a person who is not really constrained by you know ego is not constrained by wanting to serve oneself who's totally liberated uh would do that you know who has a very uh you know is secure in the identity you know as who we are in Christ would really be liberated to you know to to do that right right thank you so we'll take a break and then uh we will come back at 11 right thank you