 Hi Nicholas, how are you doing? How are you? So you've got the exciting new launch here, the Mobile World Congress. Yes, so we're at Planet Computers. We're at Mobile World Congress, hold 7, stand 15. So as you know we usually make smartphones with keyboards. So this is the Astra Slide. It's the only 5G phone with it. We think it's a very nice phone. It's very easy to type and to... How well is the functionality? Oh, it's very stable. It's solid, you know, it's very solid. I place it on the surface. It's very solid, it's very easy to type. So it's very easy to type. And then when you want to fold it, it goes into just like a normal mobile phone. And then you can put it in your pocket. So if you need to write longer things, longer emails, edit spreadsheets or write Word documents, do a lot of email. Anything which requires a lot of typing, this is a great device. You don't need to carry a laptop around. Nice. And what's happening over there? So we're launching a Linux PC. This fully productized Linux computer. It's called the Planet PC XR series. We have two models, the XR1 and XR2. What are the key features? One in these really zero configurations. So you take it out of the box, you plug it in, plug it into the internet, it works. Okay, so you can really easily... Your second thing is we have this unique touch screen front. So you can do different functions. You can do media controls, take screenshots, start browsers, start shells, loop, copy and paste. So a nice control here. You can just create some kind of action. So you have something on your screen, you want to take a screenshot, you just take a screenshot. It's very, very simple like that. Also, there's some nice functions. You can have a hotspot. So the network functions are really nice. You can create a VPN link, so you can easily just select and go to a particular country. Here we're going to go and select the VPN, go to Japan. So all our network is now in Japan. We can have network this, so you can use this as your storage appliance for the home. You can use it for your storage appliance for the office. So you control your VPN on a little screen while you do your computing externally? Yes, you can control. And if you have your network attached to here, all the other machines also end up being on the VPN. So it's a kind of VPN gateway at the same time. So really it's kind of productizing linux, so it's easy to configure, easy to use. As well as here's, for example, the PC monitor. You can see actually what's happening on my computer. So here you can see, okay, this is how much CPU is being taken. This is how much memory is being taken. This is my network processing at the moment. So very easy to just have a look at those features, right? And here's the disabled in the hotspot as well. So this is kind of the sum of the... How these functionalities are being developed? Is it limited to what you add to it or is there any chance people can do stuff? So there's a systems menu, which is kind of controlled by Planet. But there's the soft keys, which we plan to open up so you can have more soft keys and even more application screens that are only dedicated to your own application. Plus you can switch up this whole application and just write your own interface if you want, because this is just a normal screen. So the XR2 can support up to... The XR2 can support up to four displays. So you can have this display, a one 8K HDMI display and two more 4K HDMI displays out. Sorry, one more 4K HDMI display and one USB-C display out as well, which is also 4K. So you can actually have three big screens and a little touchscreen here. So quite a nice thing. As well as that, there's HDMI in. So you can actually ingest video at 4K as well. So for people that are doing video, it's quite an interesting box as well, because it has an HDMI in. Can we look at the connections in the back? I can show you some of the connections. This is the XR1. So you can see this box. So this is the smaller box. So this has two USB... So four USBs here. There will be two more on the side. Two Ethernet ports, one HDMI. So this is the XR1. But then there's the XR2, which has got HDMI in and two HDMI out and a USB-C, which I can show you a bit later. But actually, maybe we can show you just on the screen what that looks like. We go to the Indiegogo campaign. Let me see. So maybe we can show you here. So there's also front LEDs, 16 LEDs. You can see that on the device, on the front. If you look at the back... So this is the situation here. So you have... I don't know if you can see this. Let's see if I can. I'm going to go into another shot. So now we're going to go there. Let's go back here. And maybe I can show the picture. So here might be a good picture on the back. When it comes. The Internet's a bit slow because of the whole... You can use my 5G. You're doing better than we are, I think, on the... I'm not sure. I hope so. I need to check if the quality of the screen is good. So people can go on planetcom.co.uk? Yes. So planetcom.co.uk. And if you want to back it, this is the URL for backing. We're launched in the GoGo campaign. So... So it's Igmi.GoGoPC. Igmi app. What's the price? So the prices are from about... I have to convert from pounds, but roughly sort of around 450 euros for the smaller unit. And then for the highest unit, 32 gigs of RAM. It can be over 1,000 euros, but it's a very big box. What's the performance of this ARM CPU? It's a nice performance because it has its 8th core. So you know, you have a nice performance of the... 3568 rock chip? Yeah. So 3588 and 3568. So you have different performances. This is the smaller one. You can see here. If I go here and I can go to the PC monitor, this is the smaller box. So you can see the processor. This is a 4-core. So this is the lower end, the lower end of the products. You can have CPU. Here you can see, that's a 2 gigaphertz. You can have 4 cores. And you can see the number of threads and processes running on the device. Nice. That's awesome. So it looks like you could position your display on top. You can do. There's a certain amount of weight. You could put the display on top as well. So you can optimize your table space as well. Presuming that the display is not too heavy. Ideally, we've kind of really looked at this side more as an expansion for this storage. So if you use it as a home network disk, then you can actually expand your storage for personal data. So that was kind of one of the things. We're planning to do an expansion module for storage. Like there could be a bunch of hard drives or SSDs and stuff. Yes, exactly. It could be an array. It kind of creates a nice shape when you build it up. So this is targeted for the whole world? Yes, we're looking at sort of... As we're getting fiber optics, we're getting 5G connectivity to the home and to the office, the upload speeds are getting faster and faster. So with those upload speeds, what we're looking at is that you can have small Linux devices, small servers, more network appliances, more distributed computing coming directly into the home. And these kind of boxes will enable you to do that. Alright. Cool. So how did it go so far with the launch? We just launched it still the very early days. But, you know, let's see how it goes. I think the press interest is quite high. I think we have quite a few articles already coming out. So let's see how it goes, but early days. Alright. Cool. Awesome. What about delivery dates? When people back it right now? Delivery is planned for September because we already have some pre-production. Plastics and metal and PCBs, then we think there's a low risk of it going wrong. I think we'll have some units for the very early backers. We have a kind of perk, which is an early ship, which would ship in July. So that is for only a limited number of units. But we've already commissioned the plastics and the metal. So it's in a PCB. There's still a little bit of supply issues, but the world is back to normal kind of floor. It's a lot better. I mean, we still have some pre-ordered chips for the Astro devices, which we're going to China to see to get the next production run going. So this is the Astro, as you know. And that's also ARM based. So we are, which is our flagship 5G phone. What does MediaTek say about this? I think they like unique devices. I'm sure that they sometimes would probably, you know, can't speak on their behalf, but I would say, you know, if you look at the volumes for something like Alexa, which has the MediaTek chips, we are a much smaller volume for them. So we are a more niche player. But we have been using MediaTek on all of our phones so far. And it's been, you know, if you look at the different experiences you can have in the industry, it's been a good experience. Has there been some open source access to the GPU acceleration in some ways? So I don't know about that. Maybe it's interesting for your viewers. I'm not sure about that. I don't know about open source as well. I think maybe some things are more controlled than others. But it's something that we haven't really queried. So hasn't come into play with us at least at the moment. I think when it comes to putting Linux onto the Astro, that's probably one of the challenges it will be if we can get very fast graphics processing. The second will be, which is a more common issue for everybody is how to get open the 5G reel. So the radio interface layer, working in Linux with 5G, getting that really well to work. Because a lot of the Linux devices at the moment are operating on 4G maximum. So if you take a UB ports phone operating on 4G, like let's say on the Cosmo or on the Gemini, we have different Linux drivers to be there. Whereas they're there on Android, right? And how about this Linux? Can you tell a little bit more about the version of Linux and what kind of... So we're starting at the moment, we're starting with its Ubuntu 20.04. So that's an LTS version, long-term support. Obviously it's... It's a huge reference. So it's an eco-processor on the XR2. And we've added some applications, of course, like the front end here and obviously a little bit of customization on the bigger screens as well. And I think that will probably shift to 20.04 very soon. So we might even launch with 20.04, but at the moment it's 20.04. And yes, so it's pretty much... We don't want to overload it with software, but we have the app that controls the integrated display of the XR2. So we want to keep it... We have the Vivaldi browser. We've been working with Vivaldi, so there is a Vivaldi browser over there. And that makes it maybe also more open than some other browsers that are out there. Performance, hardware accelerated. Yes, yes, nice performance. Very good. It's lag-free, you know, the 8-core 3588 chip is very lag-free, so it's a nice experience. And we've run things like... We've run things like a Visual Studio code on there, you know, on our... It's a very good experience. So it's got a powerful GPU that has full acceleration on the Linux. Well, you know, there's Mali T6 then and there's support for... There's support for... for Ubuntu. All right. Cool. Awesome. All right. Thanks a lot. See you later. Thank you, Nick. See you later. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Thanks a lot. Thank you. So let's... I hope people, everybody can see. Can you watch this? Is it smooth? How's the quality? I don't know if... I see some drop frames a little bit and I'm wondering if I should lower the bitrate. Because I'm going through a 5G modem that's in my backpack, I will try to see if I can re-optimize this for a second. I'll just do a break for three minutes just to have a view, have a look if everything looks okay on the YouTube channel. Stay around. So, please, in the chat, I was unsure if the sound was good, if the video quality was good, how many drop frames there are in the skip in the video, or does it seem to be smooth? That would be great. If you can write in the comments and I'll just be walking around here and we'll be doing some more videos here. Let's follow me. These guys... Do a video with you? Yes, that's fine. Can I scan your badge, real quick? Or do you have a card or anything? Oh, do you have your pass? Can I give you my card? Yeah, of course. That's fine. After this, you get to the badge. Yeah, perfect. YouTube influencer. Yeah, okay. And if you don't mind, we'll do a little video interview and show you the technology. Yeah, so can I do that with my CEO? Yeah. Okay, so this is our video. Yeah, sure. Okay. So, for a YouTube channel, if you can just do a chat and we're going to do a demo. So, I'll grab... You might have to do a... Is it there? We have multiple demos. So, maybe the cube would be a good one. So, I'll get my stuff on. Yeah. Sorry, just one second. I'll grab it. All right. Maybe someone on this side. All right. Cool. Okay, so let's go ahead right here. So, hey. Hello. So, please introduce yourself. Oh, so I'm Alistair Bannum. I'm the CEO of PureLIFI. It's great to be here at Mobile World Congress, where we're demonstrating our great innovative technology that transfers data via light. So, what we have to do on our stand is we have a series of demos that use our newly launched light antenna device. So, this light antenna device is fully qualified. It's ready for integration into connected devices. And this was launched for me today. We have the press release that we're more than happy to share with people. So, this device will go into smartphones, into tablets, into very small form factor devices. The beauty of this is that it connects to existing 822.11 base bands, which are already inside all of these connected devices. So, whether it's your phone, whether it be your IoT devices, whether it be your tablet, it will have an 822.11. This device will connect directly to this. So, what else we have today is we have a series of demonstrations that build upon this light antenna. And we have, and we'll see that it's over here. We have the life like you. And you're broadcasting at your home booth. You have like emitters up in the roof. So, we have, just above, we have an access point here, which works with the head mounted display demonstration that we have here, which is an accessory to the HoloLens, and we can talk more about that in a minute. We have the life like you, which is a standalone device, which is the first of its kind in the world. So, you don't need to plug it into the ceiling. You can put it on a shelf. You can put it on a table. It's very flexible. It's secure. And what we know is many CIOs have worries about people working at home connecting to their network in the office, because many people do it from the kitchen or their dining room table, and they're using the Wi-Fi, which we know cannot be secure. So, this device enables transmission from the cube to a high-speed client, and you work within that cone, and you're safe, secure. No one knows you're transmitting. You cannot be detected, and so on. It's invisible light. It's invisible light. So, this is on now, and we'll show you a demo in a minute of it working, but it's very flexible. You can put it in your bag. Imagine you're an embassy person. You want to go to certain countries in the world where you want to have secure conversations. Well, use the Wi-Fi cube. Put it in your bag, put the high-speed client into your PC, and you have a secure undetected communication. Imagine in your children's bedroom where they want to play games, and mum and dad downstairs are downloading Netflix, and their latency goes, and they get a problem with the game. Have the Wi-Fi cube sitting on the desk. They're transmitting, playing the game within the Wi-Fi code. No interference, no problems with latency, and you can then do all these things that you need to do, yeah? So, if I can ask you over here, what's your background with the Wi-Fi? My personal background? Yeah. So, I joined Pure Wi-Fi in 2016 as CEO. So, we've just gone through a Series A investment, and part of that investment was to getting some experience with a new chairman and a new CEO that had, you know, had worked in larger companies in different worlds, and I'd lived in the US. I'd spent a lot of time in Japan. I'd spent a lot of time in Singapore, a lot of time in Europe. So, I joined in 2016. It was very interesting, actually, because when I started, the more I thought about it, the more excited I became. Why? Because you see it had legs because of security, the bandwidth, it overcomes a whole lot of challenges, multi-user degradation, unregulated spectrum. I mean, you can use it anywhere in the world, and you don't have to ask the local government to free up spectrum for you. So, imagine moving from one country to another, wanting to communicate and use this solution. So, I joined, and I've been working with the team now, to really generate and drive our strategy towards developing this first light antenna device, which will become pervasive in all of these connecting devices as we go through time. So, Li-Fi is an industry standard? Li-Fi is an industry standard. So, back in 2017, we set up the Topic Interest Group, and in 2018, under the IEEE, it was given the number 802.11 BB. So, it's the first light communication standard that will, when ratified early this year, because we've gone through all of the different levels of ratification, it'll be certified this year. It will enable full interoperability with RF. So, Wi-Fi to Li-Fi handover. RF to Li-Fi handover. It becomes automatic, as you do with your LTE to Wi-Fi when you go in and out of the home. So, you have all of this great technology with light, and what it means is that this device here can be placed inside connected devices because it's standard, it'll be standards compliant, so many people can build equipment that will interoperate with each other. When you talk about the 802.11 BB, that sounds like... So, there's also 802.11 in the market that's Wi-Fi? Yeah, exactly. So, 802.11 is the most pervasive protocol on the planet. All connected devices have 802.11 basebands in them. So, we chose to make sure that all of our products are 802.11 compliant by working with them and the IEEE to have a fully interoperable light antenna device that works in that 802.11. So, it works alongside Wi-Fi, Wi-Gig, Bluetooth, LTE, 5G. It doesn't matter. So, you can have Wi-Fi to Wi-Fi handovers. So, you can have a device that has both Wi-Fi in and Wi-Fi. You put your phone in the pocket, it converts to Wi-Fi, you bring your phone out, it comes back on to Wi-Fi. So, full interoperability. What is the 802.11 actually do? When people say that. So, what it is, it's the protocol that's used. So, all companies that build 802.11 solutions meet and conform to the 802.11 standard. So, it means if I'm from company A and you're from company Z and you're building 802.11 devices, we can connect and talk to each other. So, it gives you full interoperability. So, it's a global standard for all connected devices. There's around some like four and a half billion connected 802.11 devices out there that our technology will connect to. And this little chip, which part of it? Is that the both sides of it that you're showing here? Yeah, so what you've got, this is the front side. This is the detector and the transmitter. And this is just the backside PCB. So, what this will do is it will fit inside the end of your phone or in your connected device and instead of transmitting via RF, you're transmitting via light. And you need to connect that on a PCB? So, this will connect to... You need to be in front of the device. Yeah, so you put it on the edge of the device and you have like an infrared cover on it so you won't even see it. And then you connect it as a little... on the PCB there, you put a little flex wire that go to your PCB. And then it connects to your existing 802.11 baseband device in the phone, whether it be AC, AX and obviously in the future, BE. Are there phones other than just a few prototypes? So, there's not a phone that's out there in production but we're obviously working and part of our goal is to get this into you know, high volume connected devices. And the point of launching this fully qualified device today is to enable our customers to evaluate it and know that this is the device that will end up in the phone once it's been qualified. And how many companies are working in a lifetime ecosystem? So, I know of probably five or six, maybe seven or eight. I mean, there's a lot going on even within the semiconductor world where people are looking at photonics as a way of transmitting and receiving data. But we're the global leaders. You know, we are ahead of the game as our customers tell us. We're very proud to be there and we want to stay there. But this will become a pervasive technology to touch everyone as we go through the next ten years. Is company like Olecom a competitor or a partner? Well, Olecom is a company that builds a li-fi for their specific market. So, you know, the point is the market is so small at the moment but the opportunity is so big the more competition in there and more people producing li-fi products is good for the whole ecosystem. So, there's so much to play for. They support schools and high data rate products for different applications. We have to be focused on the consumer and military and defence and industrial. Yeah, and what's it called? So the main thing you're trying to solve is stable bandwidth, reliable bandwidth even when there's a lot of people in the room or a lot of things happening you still get the good signal. Yeah, so, you know as the more and more connected devices are in our homes I don't know how many you have in your home but, you know, some people have 20 to 30 devices. You have all the family have connected PCs, connected tablets, connected phones, connected IoT devices, connected whatever. So the more people that go on to this Wi-Fi bubble, let's say the more congested it gets and the one who commands the largest data or bandwidth actually impacts everyone else there. Classic example, you go to the airport and you want to get on to the Wi-Fi you can't get on there because there's thousands of people trying to get on there and even when you do get on there someone then sucks a massive, you know, bandwidth product and you get kicked off so what happens is using the Wi-Fi alongside Wi-Fi and we're additive and complimentary we're not here to replace it with an experience with your RF because you are boarding stuff on to the Wi-Fi which is will take higher data rates and higher bandwidth and the people who use the Wi-Fi will have a better experience. If you cover the the sensor, receiver sender with your hand or if you turn your phone around or as soon as you disconnect the Wi-Fi it should automatically instantly be on the Wi-Fi continuing connection. This is Asian 802.11 BB gives you that. One is blocked so people say I've got Wi-Fi on my phone, when I put it in my pocket it's not going to work, well no, light doesn't go through your pocket, does it? It will automatically switch over to RF it's the same as when you're outside with LTE So as XR, VR AR, mixed reality doesn't matter what you want to call it it becomes more of a reality in this world than Wi-Fi is a solution to help drive and support those applications. What's the price of your technology? Is it no brainer to add it to every smartphone? We work with high volume partners that enable us to be cost effective so part of the process of pricing is you've got to be market ready market pricing so we know in volume this supports so we know in volume this supports being designed into high volume products. Cool. Alright, thanks a lot. Is that good? So maybe there will be Wi-Fi everywhere in the future. Oh, Wi-Fi is going to be very safe and touch everyone on this planet over time. And you just need to connect something on the light bulb, right? We don't need a light bulb you can have an access point which is infrared. That's an infrared access point there's no light on there. You could put light around it so you can switch it on and off just for light illumination but you don't need that for transmitting and receiving data. Wouldn't it be nice to put it on every light bulb? Well you could, yeah that's one option you can put it into every light bulb and have it transmitting but when you turn that light off what happens? You don't transmit in the dark so it's probably better to have an infrared solution to put light around it. You then turn the light off like on a plane, you know when you do a work on a plane you want sometimes to watch things you don't want the visible light. So it can sit alongside a traditional light for sure. Cool, alright, thanks a lot. Okay, so here, what are you showing here? So what we have challenges is one of them is to get through into the house. So what we're doing is we have here a what we call a Lynx 5G bridge, Lifi bridge, that transmits data from the outside. You can possibly have. So we have very high speed data rates transmitting through light, through light. Thanks guys for watching. It would be cool if you can post in the chat how's the quality? That's my big question. Is it stable? Do you see some weird drop frames? Do you see do you hear bad sound? Was everything perfect? It would be cool if you can write me a little message about that because it's hard for me to check while I'm here live streaming at the Mobile World Congress. Let's check. Let's go here. Let's see if we can reconnect. Let's see if we can do a video here. Just keep filming me. Can I do video with you? Yes, for sure. Can you like cats? So please introduce yourself. Yes, I'm Vasco Petruzzi. I'm CEO of Cybertech Services. We are leading the Project Computarte. We produce ornamental home server in ceramic for private artificial intelligence. To give you a shortcut, it's like Alexa but doesn't spy on you because all data are stored in the house for privacy reason. The cat will never talk on you. No. It will never give you information to the CIA or anything. The cat will talk only to you. We'll never talk to any third party. So all the pipeline for voice recognition, it's running on the server. So you can give voice comments for home automation for example or you can manage and control your biometer parameters for EF or added value services through which we would like this to be your personal digital kitty bank and only when and if you want you'll be able to offer your data on the market because privacy, it's only one face of the coin. The other one is data monetization. So does it only speak in meow meow or does it speak in any language you want? Any language. Any language. You can control it with all the language you want. But what is the AI use? It's the full pipeline for speech to text intense interaction and text to speech. So all the pipeline to have the voice recognition of premise. And the whole pipeline what are you making with the Google Amazon? Who's doing all the AI stuff? We are exploiting open source platforms fully working for AI. In the ancient Egypt, the goddess what are you talking about in there? Everybody loves the cats? Actually the inspiration from this ornamental model coming from the Egyptian goddess she used to protect home, children, family and it's a good one for the house. Cool. That's awesome. Do you have some friends here? What's the cool stuff at the booth? You know that there are many you should explore because there are We walk around. Cool. Let me give you my card. Let's take one of your cards. The video will go right here. It's live on YouTube but we'll post it separately also. If you want to send me a little message what is the description we should use for your video? Thank you very much. Bye bye. How are you? Can I do video with you? You talk about this? I'm talking about this. Please introduce yourself. We're from Italy called Technogest. We are digital life simplifiers. This is how we like to call ourselves. We start from the edge part of the IoT infrastructure to simplify the life of system integrators. So when it comes to to integrate different protocols we are an engineering company that engineers its own solution both harder and softer. What we are presenting here is what we like to call the digital twin which is basically a 3D representation of an object which then can interact with the physical counterpart in a very intuitive way. By the way, this box is connected by a voice over IP to our head office in Pescara in Italy. So we are able to call for support in our offices as well with our devices. We have a great solution where we bring in not just the connectivity part unified communication part but as well, especially energy monitoring which is a huge topic right now in Europe to see all the energy monitoring part over here. So this is basically the way we present ourselves at this kind of... Technogest with Jay. We are an innovative small medium enterprise that's how it's called in Italy but we actually have 20 years of experience in this field. We are a B2B2B so we work with telecommunication operators, telcos which are our biggest customers that's why we are here as well. You have a lot of big customers? We do a lot of projects and we are vendors for telecommunication companies like Team Wind these are the sort of customers we have in Italy and we are looking for expanding this business line as well in the South American market which is very well represented here but as well the Spanish one, why not? Cool, alright Thanks a lot. Let me give you my card right here. So it was live streaming on YouTube I'll post a separate video If you want you can send me a description with a text and a business card for it or yes? Cool. Amazing. Thank you. Enjoy the faith. Thanks so much. Thank you. Let's go to home and I can't see you. I think 5 should be this way. What did you say here? It's so sorry. Guys in live chat Guys in live chat So how is the quality? Because I'm basically running around the walls right now Here are some drop frames How bad is it? I'm just trying to run the in my pocket Find this The France area The new browser is so so What do you mean by that? Is it dropping frames? Is it not a smooth 1080p stream? Find these guys right here 61 These guys Hi. How do you do? Do you want to change the world? Yeah. You want to change the world? Yeah. Okay. Let me just put guys on the break for a second and we're back right here and so please introduce yourself Hi. I'm Daphne I'm from Blacknet. Blacknet is a cloud gaming platform providing 500 games under subscription mode You can play any game from the cloud with streaming technology on any connected device that means you can play on a PC on a mobile, on a TV and we work also with operators and other B2B distributors around the world Blacknet is now available in 45 countries It's a cloud? Yeah. It's cloud gaming That means like Netflix or Spotify for games You have the game executed on the cloud and streamed to your device only through the internet and so anyone can play with a gamepad and the platform How do you compare with let's say whatever NVIDIA is doing and Stadia Microsoft stuff and the French Shadow If we start with the French because you are inside the French tech here Shadow is pretty cool They are doing a PC in the cloud I mean you rent a whole PC and you install whatever you want on it We are a platform where all the games are included inside the subscription You don't have to buy them, install them manage them in the system and if you compare with the other one you are talking about for example GeForce, now you have to play with your own license so you have to buy games and then you can use the technology now to stream game In Blacknet it's all in one You just subscribe, you install the app and then you accept the whole catalog is included If I subscribe to Netflix I don't want to pay for every movie I want all the movies to be there, right? All you can eat mode, also we are more targeting the whole family so providing game for everyone in the family and you can create an account for each That means with one subscription you have five players and each player can choose their games inside the catalog So you have the player for dad, mom but also the kids with parental control to provide a specific catalog for the kids Nice How many games are there? We guarantee more than 500 games We actually have all sorts of games I can show you a little bit of the platform if you want So you can go to Blacknet directly from home You will have I think there is a slash And it's just a web app? No, we have the web app We have the Android app The web app is cool because you can also play for example here on my iPhone I can go directly to Blacknet and I can just click and have the whole catalog here And it's just web based? Or is it app based? We have both, yeah We can provide that We also are pre-installed in LG TVs We are going to be inside the gaming hub of Samsung next April We also install ourselves in the TV box with telcos and other providers and the Wi-Fi is terrible Yeah It's a mobile conference but it's hard to do mobile technology Yeah, exactly It's working better with my 5G here I'm trying to connect LG, hopefully there's no drop frames and stuff like that How famous are you? How famous are you? You have a lot of users? Yeah, we do and we provide the platform for now I said 45 countries it's covering all Europe North America, South Asia but we also work a lot with our B2B partners and telecoms They don't have their user base because they can sell Blacknet as an add-on but we can also do a white label for them and create their own brand So we have, for example M1 in Singapore having their own brand Drey Telecom which is in Austria and so we manage those services with them, yeah I cannot give you the numbers because they are private and our partners there sells a subscription to Blacknet How long time have you been doing this? When did you launch this service? Blacknet launched in Beta in 2018 and we deployed for the last two years, we're like opening a new partner a new distribution channel every month a new partner those last days it's very busy very high demanding games Yeah, the game the potential of the game is not different because what you get from the end user is only a video streaming feed, yeah what is the most important would be the latency of your network that is really stable then you have a good quality but yeah, we have for example Metro Exodus or WRC, they are great games 3 PC console games they are running the cloud and just stream to your device so it doesn't change the power of the game doesn't change Can I go in a desert on my smart van and connect with Starlink is it going to be okay? I hope I hope it will be, yeah I would love to do that, yeah because latency is a question the latency is exactly 50 is enough or yeah, it has to be the smallest possible yeah, the most stable and also if you are in a normal condition at your home, it will be great but yes, on the move you can have some small shortage of network that you don't see on the video buffering but you will maybe experience on cloud gaming so there are still things we can do better, but 5G for example, is a very good network to work with the shadow, people like it because it feels like they have a 2000 euro computer with a huge GPU and a huge CPU are you doing the same performance? I'm not targeting the same audience I'm more wanting to provide good content to the whole family they don't care about hardware they want to use the hardware they have they don't really ask those questions because they are just wanting to enjoy the content that's the first thing and when you want to provide a very general public service like that, you need to have the quality that is serving the larger audience and the device they have and the connectivity they have, so we are not competing about the hardware we are completely hardware and nothing for that but we are providing a very strong cloud gaming infrastructure to make sure everyone can connect and have no waiting times they can click and really the game needs to launch very quickly that is our goal not looking for the higher performance of the I would say we are not competing with hardcore gamers I would say we are really wanting people to enjoy the content quickly everywhere on a device when they want to in theory you could support AAA latest games with the highest and we have done it even 4K yeah we are going to go up to that but when you want to make sure the people on the other hand can receive it we need to make sure the quality we send is what they can get because it will be deceiving if you promise too much and then people cannot use the connectivity they have will not enjoy so much the 4K if it doesn't pass in the network so our promise is more you know quick access lots of games all you can eat content this is really what we aim to for do you also have a certain amount of hour limit like you can buy 5 hours for B2B distribution partners looking at how people consume usually in their area but the basic offering when you go to blacknet here in Europe it will be a monthly basis it will be a monthly basis and all included what kind of price? it's 14.99 per month 14.99? it's very affordable yeah I think if you need to buy all the games you get yes it's affordable alright I think every game should be included what can you do? can you call somebody in the EU and say hey we European we need to make a law we should be allowed to have every game yeah well my licensing team they work directly with publishers and we have a contract directly with the publishers and the content owner he will be very happy of that yeah of course and so we include new games every month you know the catalogue is growing actually we over you know 100 publishers already signed more than 650 games already signed and we are growing every month and this is at no cost for the subscribers he gets new games all the time can you include super mario all these Nintendo you talking with these guys over there talking with them but Nintendo is a very specific area they should be happy with this they should say ok take it I cannot say all the discussion we have talking with everyone alright thanks a lot thank you I want your card or something I'll give you right here it's going here so it's live but I will publish separately also if you want you send me a little email with the description what I should put on your video so please introduce yourself hi I'm Julie from Mira Access we are a French startup and we are here to revolutionize the PC industry basically what we want to do at Mira Access is make sure that you never have to buy another computer in your life by transforming your smart phone into a laptop do you actually do this every day yeah I do it I myself am a marketing manager but I'm also a designer and I use my Mira box to design my products I use it with a VM machine so that I have my Windows application but whenever I post it online you use shadow so basically you have a huge NVIDIA GPU with a huge Intel remotely and you just use the shadow app and with that you can run all your photoshop and everything you need exactly the same as if I was on the traditional computer let's say but if I ever need more power or anything I just have to change my phone I don't have to change anything else alright so it's not just for show it's not just for a straight show everybody at the company does that yes we do actually if you go on our website you can see every design we've made and every components that we've created with our website that is reflected so what's happening here is that you have the integrated type C cable exactly and it just goes to your what phone do you use I'm on the S21 but you can basically use any type C 3.0 mobiles middle to high end cool this is basically the laptop the ultimate laptop are you the leader for this market yes we are currently because we have a few competitors but we are trying to create products that last in time and are the most sustainable possible we're not here to try to sell you one more laptop every year the goal for us is really that you buy this one and then we change the parts that needs to be changed like the battery last 5 to 10 years whenever you need to change it we will change it for you so you're good to have this for at least 5 years wherever and change your phone every couple years if you want and then you have a whole new laptop computer basically yeah how's the performance for your productivity for my productivity it's really good I have like some lags whenever I'm using shadow if my connection drops you can also use other kind of vm machine like parsec or just mobile applications alright how's the keyboard quality it's quite good I really love it the only thing I would say is that it's a bit dirty because I drink a lot of coffee so I often have my sticky fingers but it's a really good keyboard and can you introduce your friend here yeah my friend is actually my CEO is Yanis Hunter the creator of MiraXS nice to meet you so how's it going it's great to see you by the way nice to see you this is like your corner over here you can show let's go let's walk right here this is the ultimate mobile world congress machine I think right you want to use the mobile for everything yeah so we bet that in 10 years we won't have PCs anymore because we are going to kill the PC industry as it is today and replace it with mobile only is consider your smartphone as the only computer you need and based on that vision let me see here so what's happening on the slide so I have connected my personal smartphone to our new product the MiraDuck which is a docking station for Samsung DEX and I'm able to browse work to show you this presentation and like I said we believe in mobile only you have your smartphone as the only computer you need and with that you can push digital sobriety so it's good for the planet so basically the vandalion and the EU should make it mandatory they should definitely should because with our first product the MiraBook you can transform your smartphone into a full-fledged laptop and if you do so you can lower your carbon footprint by 56% why because the MiraBook is what we call a laptop and the laptop a laptop but a passive laptop there's no CPU, RAM or storage, no heavy components your smartphone is the central unit and by transforming your smartphone into a laptop you can lower your carbon footprint by 56% because you have less components that's easy and that's rational economically and ecologically nice you say first version but I've seen you do this for a while a couple of years so there's been revisions and improvements in the product what do you mean how would you define it? there have been some improvement on the supply chain we have improved the quality the most difficult part in the startup is raising funds especially in hardware being a hardware company it takes a lot of money, it takes a lot of effort of people, of resources and we kind of struggled as every hardware startup does to find those resources but now it's done, we just raised 2.5 million and we are ready to show the world what mobile work congress is and mobile only vision is replacing the laptop so here what you have going on is the MiraBook here in the corner and what's this little attachment so this little attachment is called the phone side it's an accessory that I can clip and clip on the side of the laptop of the MiraBook and then you have the 50cm cable made for that in order to be comfortable you can take it and it won't move it's stable it is stable and we have other accessories let me show you and pretty much it's been like 4-5 years Samsung high-end S series and Note series and all the Huawei since the Mate 8, they're all compatible Samsung high-end smartphones are compatible and MiraXS is partnering with Samsung Electronics and Huawei is compatible as well Motorola has just released something called Ready 4 they are compatible, there's the brand Crosscall which is French as well and other coming up actually Apple, next year they will adopt the USB Type-C they will, of course they will I'm turkey so they're going to be supported maybe do you want to do a MiraBook with wireless support also in a switch this is one of our ideas, yes I think we have two years before we do that before that we have created the MiraDuck the ultimate docking station with everything you need to use DeX and possibly after we'll make a tablet version we have our roadmap for that, but believe me our purpose is to create new experiences for DeX for mobile only what is this dock that we see here the MiraDuck the MiraDuck is the ultimate docking station to be productive with your smartphone so let's say you connect it to your TV connect your smartphone with DeX or equivalents and then your smartphone turns into desktop PC and you can play with it, you can watch your Netflix series or your YouTube videos let's say we open the Sharpbox video but yeah, basically it is meant for entertainment but also, let's say you are a company and you want to start being mobile only for all the reasons that I explained sustainability cost, security well, you have this on your desk and it's fixed to PC that you can use for your employees when the MiraBook is for mobility the MiraDuck is for desktop use so this one has a bunch of ports here what's going on? so we have four USB A 2.2 2 USB A 3.0 you have an Ethernet connector with up to one gig of speed you have SD card readers HDMI out USB Type-C to connect a second source let's say you have your smartphone on the front well, on the back you can have I don't know, Nintendo Switch or another smartphone or tablet or PC and you have a button on the top that you can press and switch the source switch the source with one screen so there is dual inputs exactly awesome is there any chance that you could even do a MiraBook with a bunch of extra ports like dual output now when I connect the S21, S22 all these phones they only support one external display when you connect the Type-C there is no dual yet unfortunately, DEX doesn't support extended display so you can have only one display however, what we do at MiraX because at MiraX we are the first ambassador for our products but also Samsung's product with DEX we use and we work with MiraBook and MiraDoc at the office so what I do personally is I open my big full smartphone and I can move the mouse to the phone screen and use it that way so I can type my message here then switch the mouse to the bigger screen and work, I can put my music here with my finger tap here, so basically I have a dual screen I don't quite understand this goes from this display to that display yeah, same here it can be considered as a second display it's just out of the display right there and that's something that you had to add it is supported with DEX but we kind of highlight it because it is embedded in the mobile only use do you see this mass market I want to see 8 million people buy this what's the price potentially for mass deployment where everybody needs to buy one hmm so I would say that if you want to be minimalist in your approach of IT and have one device and be sustainable and really be efficient in your way to compute for you, you have one computer, one pocket computer your smartphone and then you add multiple accessories like mirror book like mirror duck to improve the experience to really fit your needs if you need a laptop because you go on the train, you want to watch a series you want to work on your powerpoints then you get the mirror book and if you want to work at home or entertain on your biggest screen on your TV then you get the mirror duck so both are complementary in the way you use your smartphone as a PC and we believe that in 5 to 10 years we won't have PCs anymore because it is logical to have one device, I mean the smartphone has become the calculator mp3 player, GPS credit card recently so it is obvious that it will become naturally the PC, the personal computer the mirror book is at 499 euros or dollars on our website and mirror duck will be available in March at 139 euros or dollars alright you're not planning to do a lower cost mirror book like an entry level or something interesting so we would like to approach an emergent market with that approach however mirror access mirror book, mirror duck is a high-end brand so we will continue to make the best products as possible so I don't think we can be much lower than this but we definitely want to approach the emergent market so probably we'll make a second brand more accessible with different products alright what's the level of excitement when you sit down with the guys at Huawei or Samsung are they telling you like yeah like you know Samsung and Huawei is not selling laptops they are not well let me show you what we did in B2B for enterprises so for instance we have deployed mirror book to the UK police forces 350 mirror book to the west midlands police what they do is digital witness statements they are on the crime scene they type their report it is directly sent over the air to their central system and they do remote work this has gone the budget from 1.2 million pounds to 70,000 pounds plus the carbon emission footprint we have another one with the Irish guard so in the island obviously 400 mirror book deployed to access the back end and do their policing work every day on the road recently we are working with major companies like TALES who is deploying 100 decks station and they are checking if there is some use cases for mirror book but they've upgraded their productivity by up to one hour a day that is huge we have a pilot running also with EDF so it's the electricity company in France we have let's say 430 technicians in operation on the field and their current fleet is 3,000 euros per user for four years and we are able with Samsung to have a budget of 1,100 euros for four years with a mirror book and a smart phone that's why I'm saying you said one hour of productivity per day? well let me explain before that at the factory they used to have different stations and between each stations they had their computers heavy computers old windows computers and they took it from one post to another and then every time they had to login they had to put the good software, connect to internet and it was a long process and now they just have their smart phone in their hands they go from one station to another they plug to a screen and that's it, it's plug and play well it works and it's great and they want to just go full gangbusters on this or is there a lot of software that needs to be adapted because Andrea has sold 3 billion, 7 billion phones so whatever so far all the apps are not necessarily optimized for keyboard mouse and big display so they need more apps that is true, sometimes most of the time they work on windows so it is not the same operating system different environments different apps, so there are two solutions or they create the same apps on an Android environment which has been done for instance by the UK police they use solutions like VDI VDI is the virtual desktop infrastructure basically you have a PC in the cloud let me show you so I opened the Parsec app I click on the computer and you wait like 3 seconds 3, 2, 1 and you are connected to Windows PC in the cloud and you can use it with a very acceptable latency is that on AWS or where do you Parsec is a different solution you use your own PC and you put it in the cloud but you have the same solutions like Shadow, VMware Citrix for professionals they all work great depending on your internet connection do you do a lot of shadowing yourself I used to work on Shadow 100% of the time but now I switch to my own PC in the cloud with Parsec because I wanted to use my gaming PC to unleash its power for something useful instead of having another third computer I don't like having multiple computers so the Lenovo Think Fat guys they sell a lot of computers and stuff and they have pretty good keyboard and it's pretty nice the mouse and everything how is your quality of the keyboard and the mouse for the mirror book it is a great keyboard I only have good feedback very close to the Mac one but in 2013 maybe so very good experience with the keyboard the trackpad is good would be decent for certain people who are used to the Mac trackpad but it is very usable it is not perfect but overall it is a great product and we have mainly good feedback when you buy a mirror book it's for 10 years you need to be so happy with the travel and everything and the quality of the whole thing that's what we say mirror book is the last laptop you will ever buy because then you can upgrade it to change the battery if it's dead, change the cable but that's it how about the display you let people switch you will let people upgrade the display the display is not upgradeable it can be repaired of course but a display can last 10 years with no problem because if you look 10 years in the past the thinkpad displays look like crap and now you want to be sure that whatever crazy innovation happens in display is 5 years in the future maybe you want to swap it in but that's not compatible maybe for a second version but that's our intention to be to be sustainable and to have our product lasting the biggest time ever so you are market leader or not I wouldn't say we are market leader we have our competitor we really appreciate them we are a friend with Emre so there's no problem with that we were even considering collaborating on some projects so I wouldn't say we are very active competitors we try to help each other more than crush each other but yeah he's got great products I think it would be a bit different it's a different approach what is different for example is the color touch that we have the color touch is a cable slot so that you have your cable always with you and this is very practical because you don't want to lose your cable or damage it in your bag no you have so please introduce yourself so hi I'm Radek this year of Co-Presence what we do at Co-Presence is photo realistic avatars so from a simple scan can be like a phone or anything that has a camera we will scan your face so you have to turn your head left right up down and then from this you estimate your head geometry do the texture correction correctly and what you then see is such an avatar here now you can see this it's real time so if I stand right here maybe you can from here from here you can see it side by side like from there so you are making a photo realistic avatar 3D what's the use case gaming is one use case so you can be yourself if in the game and play with your friends they actually look like they look then all the VR AR metaverse applications which are still currently very comic style like a photo realistic version just to have better conversations within this environment and a video conferencing you also have a lot of benefits because you can send the avatar model just one time and then instead of sending all the pixels you just send the facial expressions which is much less information as you can see such that we really can reduce the bandwidth requirements and this means also our latency energy consumption yes you can try it out here it takes 30 seconds and then 5 minutes for optimization 5 minutes it takes then you need to wait 5 minutes but in the future we will use it to another minute but you have to capture yourself here yes Alain there it is slowly turn your head right and then afterwards slowly turn left really slowly and just look straight into your own eyes okay now slowly turn to the right to the center and you can back to the center and then to the left also like this further still okay now slowly back yeah yeah what is this 5 minutes that you need so basically optimization right it's a machine learning machine learning based on computer vision based on we are coming from the computer vision domain and what we do is basically we will estimate your head geometry and it's an optimization process and this is currently taking about 5 minutes but in the future because we can do many technical tricks to reduce it to another one minute alright so one minute how about real time so basically optimization this is something which we just to do this is one one time process right we just need to estimate your model one time and then everything else from then on works in real time let's go right here are there games where you can use your own yes so this works actually in a game engine so it works on the standard rendering pipeline meaning in every game engine that exists that's no problem such that you can use it in games as I said be yourself if in the own game also you can think of like sport games right where like superstars are like modeled by hands or with a costly setup right this is like much cheaper you just need the phone or anything which is like for the camera nice and make yourself look 10-20 years younger theoretically yes but we haven't looked into it yet as AI stuff yeah so sure technically there is this is no problem but the coolest thing is to be yourself in the game and maybe you put on VR headsets correct and when you do video chat you will see the person not with their headsets on yes correct be on the room with them exactly that's basically what's possible with the technology so this is an awesome demo how about availability can people use this, are you launching or yes so we will have a closed beta ready at the end of April which will be closed and then we will have an avatar platform hopefully in May depends on the process of getting into the app store right and then everyone can have an avatar at home and export it to many file formats like all the metaverse file formats and so on and obviously we have the licensing model for companies that want to have a wide level solution do you use LiDAR for that? yes currently yes it helps a bit it helps convergence time it qualities a bit better but we are not we don't need it necessarily so it also works just from images quite good but it takes a bit longer than 5 minutes of optimization because that helps a bit how about AI machine learning photogrammetry yes so this is not photogrammetry based right because photogrammetry also you have the problem of this alignment of the vertices right this has a really geometric symmetric topology such that we can animate it better right so it's a parametric model optimized by machine learning so this tech has been developed for decades people have been trying to do this how are you different from others? yes we've just done it do you actually make it work? yes so we actually make it work we did everything in-house so the avatar estimation the tracking the front ends the apps obviously right we are like computer vision PhDs one machine learning guy in physician yes that's not in any phone right? no phone has LiDAR there's this iPhone structured light thing right for like what it's also used for Face ID right? that's not LiDAR is it? no it's similar it's a depth sensor if you want and you have access to the whole API for that stuff correct but as I said we don't need the depth necessarily but it helps it makes the process a bit faster and quality wise it's a bit better but it also works all from standard images do you have beauty mode? sorry we don't have beauty mode yet obviously this is something we can look into we are still working so we are not too satisfied with the eyes right now so we are working on the eyes at the moment and then we hair and make everything perfect we are quite happy with the skin due to improve the eyes we need putting some more work into making it look even more realistic we just take the information from the actual eyes to make it more real yeah so the thing is yes we have like the eyes are more separated right? so these are artificial eyes basically but we need to make it look even better the games are cool but I think it's going to be be in the room with someone in another country I want to have the thing where there was this whole COVID and people doing zoom calls I also sit at the table and feel like I'm at the table with the guys and somehow you put on your VR headset and my grandparents can be in Denmark and boom they are at the table you don't even need VR headset for this you can do it with standard hardware as well this is what everyone already has at home meaning we know it every time who is looking at whom during the video conference and we can do artificial eye and head movements so all these eye heads are part of the coupling you can simulate it because you have the person in 3D so we keep the facial expressions and if I look at someone within the video conference I could look directly into the camera if I want to look at you but then all the others would also see that I'm looking at you meaning if I change my eyes and look at someone else I would be artificially turning my head towards this person and then you would also see that I'm currently looking at someone else or I said non-verbal cues like this but individually to someone obviously then the next step would be VR headsets name technology basically but VR headset is even easier actually because then you have really map conditions so within the headset infrared cameras point into your eyes to have your eye tracked it's even easier than doing it only with an RGB camera would be nice also you know these Google Home speakers the Alexa speakers and I think Microsoft or other people are talking about where you can record your voice and make them speak with your voice but what I want to see also is on the TV the face moving the mouth moving instead of saying hey Google I would say hey John then boom you have John answer and his face moving in his voice are you doing that? currently not looking into it I mean we are a startup right currently 11 people so we are putting everything currently into the spot but from there many applications can arise right so beautifying what you can also think of is life translation right meaning I can talk to someone talking Mandarin in my language not a voice avatar and then live synced into this new voice such that I can speak my language and I've been spoken to in my language right just to this one problem is that it would be good to animate people who might not have had a chance to be scanned by your system could you potentially just take a bunch of photos and just find them in the photos and give you my Google photos account and you go and you make 3D anybody that might not even be alive anymore yes correct we also haven't looked into it because currently but I don't see why it would be technically different from what we are doing currently right so we just need photos from different perspectives ideally that's it just different sides of the face is enough correct we don't care about being the same day or the same it could be any time even different ages just as long as you can correct I mean so best conditions are like obviously a daylight maybe in front of a window that's quite good right we don't have a relighting based technology yet I mean we are thinking about it but haven't done it yet nice just a start up yes what's next how do you bring this to kill Google, Microsoft and Amazon yeah so like do something big impresses people we do the call technology first and as you said so the app we based on this technology will be a video conferencing application which is much more natural so the ultimate goal we want to solve is exactly the hybrid work scenario we are sitting at one place of the world another group sitting at another place of the world and then three may be sitting alone how do you solve this optimally this is something we are looking into it and we believe that our tasks in realistic form are exactly the tool we need to achieve this do you want to partner with a bunch of companies is that what you're doing you're talking with people that are doing stuff and integrating your tech yeah exactly so we are integrating our technology into gaming companies also we are talking about like video conferencing companies right cool okay that's what we do cool thanks a lot so please introduce yourself hi I'm Hibah Sheikh from Airconsole so what is the Airconsole so basically we're a gaming application for TVs and cars we have an app on the TV and then we have an app on the phone and you can simply using our connect code be connected to it in seconds and you have a catalog of over 180 casual local multiplayer games that you can play from over 100 games included with a subscription yes exactly so we have a monthly and yearly subscription and you have 11 games that are for free and then if you get the subscription you would be able to play all of those games 11 for free that means you can try it yeah you can try it exactly the unique thing about our solution is that you're actually using the smartphone as the controller and so it's very easily accessible it's really a plug and play solution you can just on the TV you can go on the Google Play Store and you can instantly download it and play within seconds every Android TV is supported yes exactly every Android TV is supported and all is that now we're also coming into cars so we recently signed a partnership with BMW and later this year we're going to be launching in BMW cars as they're like gaming solution as well so when people are not driving they stop by the side of the road maybe while they're charging the TV exactly that's the idea so while you're charging maybe while you're waiting to pick up your kids from football practice or currently we're providing a stationary experience but there's so many things we can do in the future with autonomous driving as the cars get more as they advance in technology then we're going to advance with the way we integrate our product into those cars as well alright can you show off hard words sure yes so this is one of our games actually that we already have open and it's on the smart TV right now yes this is on the smart TV so if you see you can here you can race this is one of our racing games so then you can choose which track you want so what's really cool is it really is a multiplayer solution so for some of the games you can even connect up to 16 smartphones at the same time so for this one I think you can have around 4 people playing at the same time and they're just on the wifi at home you can be on wifi for this TV screen you would need wifi on the phone you can be on wifi or you can even use your connection your 4G 5G how's the lag when you click is it pretty so actually we're using webRTC to connect the two devices and so here where we can see that the lag is it's barely there we've been working on our latency for years and years so our latency goes as low as 20 to 30 milliseconds because since we have like for example racing games as well you don't want to feel that when you click then you have to wait to see so it's pretty instant I'm clicking and then we're having the reaction at the same time at the output device is it potentially possible to use bluetooth remote control like a game console remote so what's special about our our service is that it's accessible and you don't actually have to buy any other hardware than what you already own so this is specific to our product and you can only play with the smartphone control because for example we have different control schemes for every single game as well it's not just a standard control scheme like you would have on a Playstation or Xbox you just have a controller here for every game you can see as well this is our catalog you have a cooking game here that's one of our more famous names here you have a drawing game and we really pride ourselves in the fact that it's really multi-generational so you could be playing with your friends family your grandparents, your parents at the same time but the input device is always the smartphone because for example if you have already a game controller then you probably also have a console for the game controller alright but couldn't in theory the TV can connect Bluetooth that wouldn't be good enough to control some games with a controller for each of our games we're working with different development studios and they make these specific control schemes so if we're controlling any other device then that changes our product then we have to make controllers for those games we have to make specific control schemes for that different device so alright is there any chance you can have triple A games like super powerful games that require a few CPUs in the cloud so we're really focusing on casual gaming because we really want to be accessible to everyone with triple A games not everyone can play it because it's sometimes they're pretty hard to understand and to learn as well and with casual gaming you can really play with everyone for example I can play with my parents and in a few seconds they'll be able to understand it as well so we're definitely sticking to the casual gaming because that's where we see that the market needs something like this for triple A gaming the market is already pretty saturated with all the different consoles and even the triple A cloud gaming there's so many of them that exist and we firmly believe if you're a triple A gamer you're going to stick to your console because you want the best that's in the market for your gaming experience and so that's why we focus on casual gaming sometimes the smartphones have a selfie camera and some people they like to play these dancing games and stuff is there anything of that no we don't currently have anything like that but you never know yes in the future yeah yeah what's the subscription cost so it depends where you are in the world it is varying according to country but the monthly would range from around five dollars to eight dollars and the yearly would range from twelve dollars to twenty four so it's pretty reasonable cool thanks a lot thank you so much so where is this going here let me give you my card right here you have the card here you see so it's live on the YouTube but we will also put it later as a separate video if you want you can send me a description that should be for your video we'll use it otherwise we'll just put it on your website and put some stuff but right now it's live it's live where on YouTube on the YouTube channel thank you so much so hi so please introduce yourself hello I'm Valentin Levy I'm the CMO of the company Tiny MDM so what does the Tiny MDM do it's Android mobile device management solution we are working with companies worldwide and helping them to remotely manage and configure all their devices through our dashboard this is the dashboard this is the dashboard here this is the dashboard here so we can view all the devices that the company can manage all the devices that the company can manage the apps that are allowed or not and then you can remotely push the installation then you can remotely push the application, their updates you can manage passwords you can manage the geolocation of the devices enforce internet filtering remotely lock the device, change the passwords reset the device to factory settings et cetera it really allows companies to boost productivity of their team and enhance the security of the devices how do you get deep root access to the Android device you need a special Android version that you customize that goes on every device no it's because we are an Android EMM partner and we are approved by Google Enterprise to manage all Android devices so we are a device owner of the device so there's a way to control devices like that and enterprises what else are they doing right now in the world to control all the devices our customers like in general to understand what does the enterprise do when they give an Android phone to all the employees we have many different use cases some customers are using the devices to scan items in the retail but we also have customers in education and they provide the devices to children in the classroom and they need to manage the access so we have many use cases do you already have a lot of customers or is this a new are you like a new start-up it's a new start-up because we created tiny MGM 3 years ago but we manage around the 200,000 devices on the 5 continents so it's a huge success all right, 200,000 that sounds like a lot so you already have big companies working with you we don't have any minimums our smallest fleet is one license and our biggest customer have 30,000 licenses do you have competitors oh yeah we have who are they maybe you don't have to say but big companies are small also well, there are there is many competitors but they are very complex with many many many features and the price is also expensive so tiny MGM is really simple to use and really affordable and we are Android dedicated so that's that's different than what our competitors are doing so you're doing something that's better that's easier to use but more advanced at the same time no it's not more advanced it's it's like basic features Android dedicated easier to use and more affordable cool, all right, thanks a lot thank you all right so I'll be right back to the live stream do you have my card you have the business card anybody can let me know how's the quality drop frames, the sound hopefully it's good my YOLObox Pro is saying some kind of thing that I had to unbind and rebind my account to make sure that it's required basically everything is here so I think I'm going to stop the live stream and restart a little bit later so please check back in like one hour or so for part two of day one Mobile World Congress big business cool products launched I need to get two more devices more hardware I'll be filming that let me know in the comments what you've read on the internet let me turn like this let me know did you read some cool news happening at the Mobile World Congress some new crazy device let me know in the comments I'll be doing live stream about it today day after day tomorrow later