 Yes. My father used to tell me that he thought Lady Bird was really the person who kept Johnson together and kept him within the channels of his strength. And it meant taking, I think, probably good-naturedly some abuse and some neglect, but she was strong enough to do all that and determined enough. And, of course, adored him, and he adored her, and it was very clear. He could fly off the handle at times, and that's in the nature of things. But the two together made a big force. Their combination was stronger than any single one, where they say the total is greater than the sum of its parts. That's it. That's true of the Johnson couple. I think one thing that I notice about the Johnson team, they're so loyal, all the fellows that worked for him, you know, Jack Filanee and Harry McPherson, to name two. They saw the flaws, they saw the problems, but they recognized the greatness, and they were proud and thrilled to be part of it, and they were a big part of it. There were many others, of course, Califano and so forth. I think Bill Moyers was a strong thing. I think Bill changed on the war a little bit, and I think the President noticed that, and probably that came between them at some point. I remember one time I was sitting in the back of the car with the President, and Bill was in the front seat. And out of the blue, the President observed, Bill, your hair's getting long, isn't it? And I, well, in the world, we say such a thing. But I think that was about the time, you know, when the Vietnam thing was beginning to split with two men. And Bill's had a great career since then. He's doing fine. He's got wonderful TV stuff going. Harry, of course, is a Washington's, I think, most effective lawyer-lobbyist. But he's more than that. He's really a statesman without portfolio. He's a terrific guy. Lenny never squits. In fact, he's given, he's written a book now about how to give speeches, and he loves to rattle on, and he's good at it. And he's such a charming guy. And I don't see much of Joe anymore. He's in New York, but he's a loyal supporter and full of good ideas. So I think all in all, the experience for me was I feel very lucky. I think I saw a slice of history from that perspective that taught me a lot about people and country, world. People used to care to what the protocol is, just meeting and greeting. And then I thought to myself, yeah, what more important event in a human life is there than meeting another one? And what more important aspect of that is then the greeting, in effect, the context in which you do this so that you can come away feeling it was useful, and that we can go forward with more hope. So that's what I would hope for every president to have that attitude. And I think our current president is doing his best along those lines. And every president, that office, it's so overwhelming in its demands that it just takes your breath away when you step back and think about how does anybody ever do the darn thing? Think of all the times, the days you spend when you're on the phone writing letters and interrupted, because of the life that you are leading and the work you have to do. Multiply that 10,000 fold and see what the impingement on the president's time and attention and patience has to be. Johnson handled these things very well. I never saw Kennedy that much in that context, of course, because I wasn't that close there. He was the other president that I worked under. If you accept the fact that when I was a private Marine, Truman was present, but I didn't see a lot of him. And then when I went to the Foreign Service Eisenhower was present. But there you are, they were all good men. I think I've probably wound myself down. I know I've forgotten some things I wanted to tell you. Could we ever do that again? Because I know there's something in the back of my mind that I wanted to tell you. One more thing. I remember when we went on the trip to the Manila Conference, 1966, I think, Seven Nations Summit Conference. And I went on the advance. It took us about 10 or 15 days. And then I got here for 24 hours, got back on the plane with the president, went again. So it was quite a grind. Moyers was in charge of our advance. And when we went to Wellington, New Zealand, I went to the guy that sort of the hotel master of the city and said, we need a hotel suite for President Johnson. I'm sorry. There's nothing, excuse me, the President of the United States is coming to visit your country. You're telling me that there's no hotel space. The reason we're asking for this, by the way, which I didn't share with him, the President, I don't want to say that anybody's home. I don't like to mess around people's home and Secret Service come and punch his hole in the wall and everything. I'm just not going to do it. And it's not right. And you're going to get me public accommodation where we go. So that was my mandate. So I said, so the President's coming and you can't work him in. And he said, no, I'm afraid not. And I said, could I know why? Oh yes, he said, it's race week. It's race week. Meaning that the racists in the whole hotel rooms are taking seats. So I had to go back. Well, no. Then I went to call on Sir Bernard Ferguson, who was the Governor General of New Zealand. The Governor General is the Englishman that they send in to a colony, and I guess they call it something else now, to represent the Queen. He has no power in that country, but he's the Queen's representative and she's the head of state. So Bernard Ferguson, I walked into this enormous living room in this palatial house where he lived. And there's a portrait of him on the wall, about 10 feet tall, wearing a red uniform of a British hasar or something. And apparently he'd been at Toe Brook at one time. When Toe Brook went back and forth between the Germans and the Brits for quite a few times. And so he was trapped in Toe Brook once with his troops. And Australians relieved the siege and he came out the head of his troops wearing a monocle and the Aussies all laughed at him. And so he took it out of his eye and flipped it in the air and caught it. He must have practiced that damn thing a thousand times. Anyway, excuse me. Anyway, he caught it. So of course he became a big hero to everybody. That's kind of guy he was. He was big, bluff, and determined. So he came into the room looking exactly like his portrait. Oh, it meant assignment. Jolly good to see you. Lady Ferguson and I are thrilled. No, the President will be staying with us. I said, Your Lordship, the President is so grateful that you would be thinking along those lines. Actually, I said he has always instructed us to find a public accommodation because he doesn't like to impose on a private home in any way, shape, or form. Well, that's quite impossible, I'm afraid. No, the Queen wouldn't like it. So that's that, you see. So I went back and I said to Moyers, we have a problem. Sir Bernard Ferguson expects the President. You didn't tell him. You didn't tell him the President, not going to stay in a private home. I said, no. Well, like Bill, I tried to explain to him the President. And you didn't stick to it, did you? Send a boy to do a man's job. All right, I'm going. So I took Bill Moyers into see Sir Bernard Ferguson. We walked into the same room, saw the great portrait, in comes Ferguson. Mr. Moyers, get Dio Jolly good to see you. And how thrilled Lady Ferguson and I had to know the President will be staying with us. And Moyers said, Well, the President's rather pleased himself. So we walked out of there and said, Boy, you're tough, Bill. You really took him on. But there was a kind of guy, you couldn't say no. And so then, of course, we had to deal with the actual arrival of the President. I was a little nervous because he said, I don't want to do that. We drive up and Sir Bernard Ferguson comes out of the house, you know, a minute to the President. Come on in here. And there was a little room that people would take off their coats and before going into a reception, you know. And he said, Mr. President, I call this the sheep dip. Well, of course, that one is hard. And he thought that was the funniest thing. And the next thing you know, they're having a great time. And Lady Bird, and of course, Lady Ferguson. It worked out just perfectly. There were times when you did, okay, one more thing. My secretary's now pulling me up. You put the rest of us in that damn fairy bowl. Uh-oh. I forgot about that. Yeah, that was awful. Well, I didn't know where you guys were going to go. That was just terrible. I didn't even learn about it. When we went to Sydney, one more thing, Sydney. The finest people of Sydney, about 300, were gathered in a room to meet the President. And he was about an hour or two late. He'd been doing things. And he turned to me and he said, do I have to go in there? Oh, no, first he turned to Marvin Watson. He said, Marvin, I've got to go in there. And he said, no, sir, you're the President of the United States and you go and do anything you like. And he turned to me and said, what do you say? Mr. President, these people have been waiting now for about two hours. They're the finest people of Sydney society. And they're anxious to see you. And it would be sad and perhaps unfortunate if you didn't take advantage of this opportunity. So he said, he looked at me like I'm going to get you. And he went in and, oh, Mr. President, great. And the cheer went up in the room. And next thing you know, he's working his way through that room, shaking every single hand. And he comes out the other end to the finest people I've met in my life. Oh, that's the greatest thing I've ever done. So you see, you couldn't always depend on his mood. And he was perfectly, he loved people. I think I'm being taken by all the way. But this was fun. And I hope we can do this again, Bob. Yeah, this was great. I wish I did.