 tell me doctor where are we going this time i don't know what that song is sure you do gotta get back in time bum bum bum gotta get back in time give me the chorus that was the chorus oh no i don't know it back to the future it's hui luis and the news is back in time from from back to the future it's in the credits yeah it's in the credits yeah you know don't recognize that one you're young yeah i know welcome back to our stupid or xcv it's up corvin i'm hui luis happy independence day rock and roll giant yeah what what year uh independence is it for india this time uh 47 right so oh i'm 73 because my dad was born the year they had independence so it should be 73 74 74 this year 74 should be 74 independence day india obviously you've seen the title so we are doing a movie we wanted to use something to celebrate uh independence day and this one has been on the list for quite some time we've seen we say i think every song did we see every song i think we've seen every song i know like the first one was like the first like one of the first rithic things we ever saw and i think that was the thing that remember when we were like that was rithic right i think it was that song but it was a different reaction that we looked back and we're like that was rithic and yeah i was going to say something but i'll wait till we get into the review anyway i'll say it but yeah so we've seen uh i think every song i believe i believe it was every song i'm really trying to think if it wasn't there's only one we didn't see yeah anyways but obviously it came out i believe in 2004 the film is laxia uh and it's directed by far far our well it's the first directorial film of his we saw good question because we've seen one other uh i don't remember really yeah why did i think that was his sister uh no that's uh that's farhan he wasn't he didn't just produce that he did he directed that he did produce it he did produce it as well i i uh man but anyways yes so they were directed by farhan octar uh starring and i'm gonna talk about john with a very special appearance by ompori ompori and actually a few others uh including um i'm reshpory yeah as well and our dose pankaj yeah but he was edited out which i'm very upset about why would you ever do that i heard a story though that like this was like his first role because it was right right first role and so he took all of his family oh no he didn't know he was cut out of the film that's i think that happened in oise too awful i think we heard a story about that happening to nois at the beginning but that is that is so at least let him know i get it i don't actually if i see that clip i don't know how you could cut pankaj honestly seriously but that is the absolute worst that is terrible anyways uh this could be a hundred and four that came out 2004 uh almost 20 years ago yeah uh so i think mostly you've seen it and in fact i think it's more of a cult classic because at first a lot of people it wasn't a big success did but didn't was it rithika success rithika at the time was already a success yeah but the film itself okay was not like a huge box office so it's kind of like a lot of films obviously until later and then it obviously people uh more appreciated after that anyway so once again hundred cents for a review they have a watch they'll watch it it's on netflix for us i don't know if it is for you rank your initial thoughts please well and that is really kind of a test of a film as if it stands the test of time if you remember a film 20 30 40 years later i think it was a success yeah um i i my basic overall takeaway from the film is that it's a predictable yet thoroughly enjoyable film that shows that farhan octar can act and boy can he get sound people around i mean can direct and get sound people around him uh and it i really appreciated rithik um it now that we're used to indian films going because you you wouldn't see a serious military film have like some of the musical numbers in here especially that one where he's doing the yeah right the thing we saw at the beginning almost two and a half but i'm really beginning more and more to appreciate that style of indian cinema for what it was and what it has meant as a thumbprint of the dna of indian cinema so it's not an award worthy film but it's still to me the biggest part of it that i think is really nice is it was a great choice for us to watch because i think anybody watching this while they wouldn't be moved like they would some like saving private ryan yeah i still think this is enough to make even a non-indian say jai hind and it's predictable but i still enjoyed it yeah absolutely i did as well uh there were i think it's probably the same part for you the the the flashback was probably it was definitely my least favorite part right um but and like i'll compare it to almost still chaha the coach will die even though it's nowhere near as gz nowhere near as over the top and i'm not saying it's like that no there's no cheese but obviously they did the thing where obviously these people who look like they're 35 tried to be basically teenagers again right and then they did some you know weird corky teenager stuff so in that aspect it was a little similar but uh the rest of it like it started off great really assuming is what your your tweet or whatever it was about yeah just as it got started because i tweeted this and i put it on instagram i was just it started and the credits were rolling and we're going and i'm seeing the the titans that you know directed by farhan on like i know we're getting into this military movie and it's independence day and i was just overcome with emotion it's like i'm so grateful that these names farhan octar amitabh bhakjhan rithik roshan and predi and all the other people in it it's like this has so enriched my life and i was anticipating it to be good because of the players involved yeah um so it started off real real good uh like the scene with him amitabh bhakjhan talking to him obviously big b's big b um and then when it transferred over it's not that it was bad it's just it wasn't as engaging to me and i know why they did it obviously the story's about a a guy who has no direction or objective right this is the objective is the word uh in his life and he's kind of just like a slacker comes from a well-to-do family right that can if you want it he could go get a job with his dad if you wanted to i get i get all that it's just some of the stuff was a little cheesy like when he's in the military and he's just off looking he's like you don't have to be that on the nose with it that's what i'm gonna buy the other word i had in addition to predictable was simplistic so like for example later on when priti and her fiancee would you knew they were gonna break up the way that they did at the dinner table was so simplistic and so easy in the writing yeah i did i did love that scene for her priti though for her yeah absolutely and but it was again it was forgivable even though it was predictable it was forgivable but yeah so it started off great and then it got into that but uh my favorite parts were when it actually got back to him in the military that's my that was and then obviously the great i think um battle scene at the end expression for 2004 yeah agree i thought farhan did a fantastic job with that so let's just get into this yeah uh rithic i think there's one of his strongest performances outside of the maybe the the little cheesiness from the from the flashbacks i think this jota akbar i mean i think he did well on super 30 as well um but there's one of his strongest performances i believe i agree this is one for me where i i i i already liked rithic and already was rooting for rithic right um but watching him here this is like you see all the potential inside of this guy for being a solid actor and a hero fully believable on the character obviously a great dancer a great dancer very believable with all the military training he had to do and all the military ops he had to do yeah um and the moments where and even in the the songs but also in moments where he's just being pensive like one of his best moments that could have been so bad with an actor that's not as good was when he's standing looking at the ridge and she's there and he's like i have an objective now and he points up to the peak it was a beautiful moment for him i thought where a lot of other actors would have it wouldn't have been there and i felt like he was fully invested and it it raises the bar for me for another another great scene i think with him and predy was actually when she came to the the base and the song was going on and they were just staring at each other from that song from opposite sides even though i think we saw that it obviously meant more here because we were more attached yeah i was watching it and i was like oh yeah the guy sitting next to her that's not a way but they were just for a while just staring at each other once again one of the hardest things to do uh even though it looks so simple but to look like you're actually engaged and to look like what you're you can tell what they're thinking about in their brain like commercial acting yes it's at which commercial acting is one of the hardest things you'll ever have to do man it's one of the worst audition things it's awful where all you're doing is sitting there and you don't have the track playing to give you the emotional context what you've got as a director saying okay now be seemed too long for her even more okay and you're looking for a motivation you're yeah you're just everything about it is so hard to be real and they were both great yeah i thought she i thought did very well like i said i love that scene even though the like i said the film is a little predictable but obviously at the time in bollywood yeah maybe not right but obviously we're in 2001 i mean 2021 i think the graphic nature was pretty shocking yes for for that time but the her scene where she was actually a strong independent woman yes but she was like hold on what the what the fuck you trying to say to me right now right you're trying to say i can't i can't do what i do because you're gonna be my husband right okay okay well thanks thanks see you later bye not gonna do that so i love that because obviously if people are mistreated like that i never want them to stay in those awkward relationships so and you you don't get to see that often because obviously i think it was a very good scene because with indian culture we see that a lot in films another thing with indian culture that was represented that i this is one of my favorite parts of the film was his relationship with his dad and the way that that was depicted because great scene on the phone yeah the two scenes so well there's several scenes but the first thing you get relationally is the challenge the the quintessential challenge but the dad with the balance of the mom he didn't come off as an asshole you kind of understood where he was coming from he was being a bit of a hard on about things but you kind of when he when he was explaining to him my dad did this and i did this and now we had hopes for you he wasn't being the quintessential jerk you kind of had some empathy for the dad but that phone call yeah yeah when he says i love you dad great scene with both of them and the dad says i love you too i believed it and loved it and i i felt for a for a culture who has consistently talked about how in film you don't see a lot of emotionally available men and especially dads and sons that's probably one of my favorite dad and son moments in indian yeah film i thought i thought it did very well and that speaks to um farhan and i will get into him in just a second i want just a few more people um i would talk about son he's exactly what you want he's just so good he's exactly what you want yeah and it's i i think this is the first time we've seen him in a military and i 100 believed him in this kind of um officer or was he an officer was he a he was a commanding officer yeah sir uh in the army and he but he carries this this weight with him that you you just believe and he's never he's just never bad the dude is so good yep and i love the the appearance of pori i love the uh him and and you gotta go i think one scene from umresh pori as well um and that was that was great to see but i i thought i'm gonna talk about you did a great job as did all the other supporting guys that were soldiers with them because a lot of the times you'll have something like this and some of the other supporting folks around you weaken it and i didn't think they did i'd like for example when i forgot his name but he's the guy that comes back um who was supposed to put the flag up and he's just all torn up and the buddy who's trying to sell him up and telling him you're gonna put the flag up when he dies his response to him dying was believable and oftentimes when you have an actor in a smaller role like that they are cliche or they're uncomfortable and you can see it because the camera doesn't lie but i felt like everybody that was in there yeah did a very solid commanding officers that were trying to attack with them that was some of them that died once again this is part of the movie um i thought did really good job me too so i liked them all farhan is i think he's obviously we loved him as an actor yeah i think that's where we first fell in love with farhan yeah he's a he's a really good actor the man that's out of direct he sure does i think this is even though we enjoyed the chahattai i think this is even more impressive this one this one he got to flex his muscles and i actually thought to myself i'd like to know if mel Gibson saw this film for your hacksaw for hacksaw man because i mean granted hacksaw is a true story but there were a lot of things sound wise um image wise the way they were shot that were so hacksaw reminiscent that i thought i wonder if this is one of the military films that mel watched that gave him inspiration because it reminded me so much of hacksaw yeah so i don't know how much he's directed i know he's directing the new uh god olympia and adia green up film that zoe is writing yes that's very exciting one exciting development that we're gonna get next year hopefully the whole scaling the wall thing was so good i couldn't tell if we were looking at green screen or we were looking at a construction that was done with optical illusions or if they really found a cliff yeah and and you said sound at the beginning one of the biggest points of a war film is the sound editing and the sound mixing um and so i thought it did a fantastic job and freaking testing yeah the the as far as like the the caliber that's like we don't get to talk about the top the sound in this was just absolutely it was it was whoa so harry get out of here it was oh crap it's alexis uh i'll call her back when we're done because she's in new york okay um harry get out of here again going back to hacksaw the team that did the sound for hacksaw was the team that also did all the sound for the lord of the rings films so they won oscars for lord of the rings then i went to a screening of of hacksaw where mel was there and the the team of sound and i wanted them to win and they did hacksaw got sound mixing and sound editing the sound in this was as good as hacksaw rich yeah the sound was unbelievably good yeah and usually you don't get to talk about sound unless you're watching a war film or i guess at least a big action film big action film because that's where it's most noticeable or or like last year the sound oscar went to sound of metal because of yeah the nuances of what they were doing to portray his deafness yeah so most of the time it's going to be a big sci-fi action yeah film um but yeah i thought with all of that i thought farhan did a fantastic job weaving the story and also especially for this time everybody for the most part outside of some times in flashbacks was very grounded in their performances absolutely uh outside of the a few times when it not at least once again it's not like kuch kuch alt ahai srk and kajol in in the beginning over the top but there was a few times that it was just a little over the top uh by they're trying to show that they're teenage yeah yeah yeah all that kind of stuff but outside of that like especially 2004 in bollywood it's a it's a credit to nandini scherkent the casting director with with farhan i think it's a lot of foreign because this is his style yeah well the director has a final say yeah and he's like casting i don't want he's like garen johar right right and even even the really smaller roles like toward the end when they're going up the hill and we actually go and we see the pakistani soldiers at the top yeah they were actually quite grounded and quite believable a lot of times actually until the end a lot of the pakistani actors you didn't they didn't get faces no that's a choice by farhan an excellent choice to uh depersonalize depersonalize it and it's it's just it's a people that that they're fighting against i do have a question um not that this is a little small thing and it's not a problem i have at all i just noticed this that when he got to the top and maybe it is when he took the flag out it may just be an american thing i know for like american soldiers in america hit on the ground don't let the flag touch the ground i don't know what their flag code is yeah so i i'm assuming it's not the same code but i wanted to know because that would be something to just but also that's that's often when it's just um like like putting it up and down in very particular places obviously if they're in battle they're they're not really as concerned yeah and it didn't in any way bother me or distract me i'm assuming it just was a thought i had when he did it i'm assuming their code is probably similar a lot of military codes with flags yeah they're very honoring of their flag yeah um so i'm assuming it's pretty simple i noticed that as well um because my dad when i was younger he taught me how to fold in everything yeah it's always been a foregone to just doesn't touch the ground but i understand in that situation you know he's he's limping we didn't talk about the songs but we'd seen most of the songs and they're right they're great songs um it's it's super interesting to see that first one where he's like i have why am i like this song that we saw almost two and a half years ago i know no context i had forgotten it was in this film and when it happened i thought okay this is one of the things about this is what people who love like bollywood Indian cinema love because no one else does this where else would you see a movie that's this mixture of like hacksaw ridge and a quirky mtv video only here yep and it it was great uh i enjoyed it his proposal song and then yes i thought he i thought he was an idiot like she was all multiple times in this thing she was like hey i want to get back to you he's like no let's wait that's wait okay idiot yeah yeah but you know you got uh i think he it's because one had one point he thought she was engaged or she was she was engaged oh she was engaged i guess i found that out yeah um but i didn't like that engaged guy i'll tell you that yeah i didn't like him yeah me too uh as an actor or as a person you know but other than that i think i i think i mostly i like everybody in this that's it for the most part him i was one and then i can't think of another one that all everybody the whole military was great anytime they were there and it was a clear the one time the corkiness did make me laugh though in the in the flashback was when he fell off the thing when he was climbing up the thing and he's like this is gonna be so easy yes he just he called me up garden i was like i laughed yeah it made me laugh anyways uh so yeah there you go we enjoyed it if uh let us know what we don't know i guess yeah and why we're or what we missed what why we're dumb i know we i know we probably missed a lot of different things because one of the things we didn't talk about is not just we talked about all the technical and the artistic but we're learning more and more about the loc the tensions between pakistan and india as well as other countries like china the the complexity of kajmir and all those things what i appreciated is that this didn't get too into that it was more about just this one area and i think this is a good film for a lot of reasons if you wanted people to really get a taste of like a a bollywood film and i know a lot of people like that term but it's its own kind of thing this falls into that category and i think it's a serious thing it's got serious this it's got the great musical numbers and it really does give you an introduction because most people in the west are clueless us included about what the military history has been in the region over there between india and the powers of the in that whole area and i think this would give people enough interest to go wow i should learn more about that what's what's the line of control and what i've heard about kajmir before and i think would cause them to have interest yeah absolutely so let us know what's the next farhan film and pretty as well um but rithik let us know what should be our next rithik roshan film what's your favorite rithik roshan film i always forget he's in left by chance even though i was pleasantly surprised he was in left by chance yeah it's but it's still gonna be deborah for me still deborah yeah yeah this is this is a real this is really close up there yeah uh thankfully there isn't a a rithik film i don't like there are some performances of him i like better than others about gersen that's that's the one that you did that's the i like the film i felt like we said in the review there were certain aspects of the performance i would i would genuinely love to talk to him because he may help me clarify you know his process and what he was doing but at first at first glance that's the only performance of his where i had some questions all the other ones i've enjoyed yeah yeah same i like joe dachmar that's still my i think my favorite of that it's just an easy watch it's so good anyways let us know what the next one should be and happy independence day jay hi sir okay dang