 Welcome to Toffy TV, this is the match preview of Everton vs Chelsea this coming Sunday at Gooderson Park. BBC presents a football. Is that what very much my BBC presents of which? Yeah. I thought in my mind it was quarter past two. I thought it would be over a bit earlier. I thought. I stayed talking last Sunday. I ate Sunday football. I've come to hate Saturday football. Last time, Wednesday football. Last time ever, one on a Saturday. Cardiff. When? It was the last Saturday in November. 24th in November. There you go. I'm quite happy one on a Saturday in the Premier League. It was the 24th of November. And it's March. The middle of March. Chelsea at home. You've only actually won one home game since. In the Premier League. Let's get it right. I'll run a form. Is relegation form? It's appalling. It's absolutely appalling. We've got to get something on Sunday. There's no question about it. Playing a team that is not doing as bad as you think when you look at the league. But they're a team who I think are beatable. I think they've got some fantastic players but they still think they're beatable. This will be their game in hand. Because no one else has played. Because of obviously the FA Cup and stuff. And obviously games have cancelled. This will be their game in hand. And if they win their game in hand, they go on the same point as Arsenal. 60 points if they were to beat us. So from that point of view, they wouldn't look like a bad position at all. Obviously we were recording this before they played in the second leg. In KF. But they drew last week 1-1 with Wolves. And they do seem to have those results. And then they're going, they'll give someone a tongue on something. But I think you're right. I think they're there to be beaten. Because they are a good side. I just think that, like you've just said there, there is something about them where you think. I think, you know, they're beatable. But it's all down to what mentality Everton play has taken up with on Sunday. Because it's dead easy to write this game off. But when you look at our fixed years, and you look at where we are, we've got to start picking up wins. Because I just look at the Burnley and Sheldampton results against Tottenham. Before that Burnley game, Spears were the one. They were riding the championship race. They were two people, they think they'd have gone. Two points behind City and Liverpool that day or something like that. And they've blown it by not winning any of them three. But Burnley, who have been awful all season, can beat them. Sheldampton beat them this weekend. Now Tottenham in my opinion are better side than Chelsea. One of the best teams I've seen in gooderson all season they've played. So, you know, we can't fall into that. Other teams beat teams like Bournemouth beat these four-nil, four-nil. So, other teams beat, you know, it's only really City and Liverpool and even City have lost a couple of games, they probably shouldn't have done. But it's again, it's about how we defend. It's how Everton, what the mentality is like. And arguably, we've defended better against the best teams than we have against... Like Newcastle, for argument's sake, the weekend. But just balls pumped into our box and we couldn't cope. And yet, Liverpool, who were much more creative and technical, we dealt with... A better awareness, wasn't it? And I don't know whether that was because the fans are gooderson making the players have to switch on all the time or whatever. But like we said, you know, we know that Eden Hazard will be the danger money always is. I think what you've just said, spot on about Everton will be all the underdog in this game. And I think that might suit us the way things are at the moment. You're absolutely right, we haven't. We don't concede loads of goals. We generally lose the games by the odd goal. Which is obviously worrying. But that's the most annoying thing, that it's fine margins with Everton. Last weekend, you know... I'm so annoyed about last weekend still because just because getting what three points would have done for everybody and yet because we haven't taken the three points it feels like, well, what have that done to the players? And this is no time to think, well, whatever, the season's over. The season is not over. We've got 37 points. Which is... I was thinking about it before and honestly, I was thinking to myself, there's eight games left of the season and we're not safe and that on its own is absolutely damning. Genuinely damning that. It is though, isn't it? We should be able to draw eight games, shouldn't we? If you think about it, we should be able to get draws in the last eight games. We've got the big teams our own. We've got three big own games against these. We should be able to get at least the points against all three of those in our own gaff and then we should be able to... we should be capable of beating barely but draw, you know, draw. And away from home. We're not playing anyone who's your partner's spares last week. Really? I was thinking about this before. We're a one-and-three team, right? So, by that token, we should be finishing the season with 45 points. Which is horrendous. It's horrendous that. That's what we should be finishing the season with. Two more wins and two draws. Really, if you look at what we are, we're a win-49 last year. We're a win-lose-draw team. And everyone was saying we've got to do better. And we're going to fall worse. We are going to fall worse? Unless we go some. I mean Saturday. Saturday, we were tuned a lot with 25 minutes left, coasting in a game. I'll tell you, it was easy because Newcastle were having a little goblty. They were really threatening. They had one thing with Rondon, knocked it past Pickford over the top, which was a rarity, really, what they did. So at that stage, with 26 minutes left just before he scored ever none on 40 points, Newcastle don't score more than one in most games. Two, may be. We're on 40 points and everyone's going, we've had a break and that's 7 points out of 9. The feelings, certainly different people starting to go, may be just let's get to the summer, give this fella another win though, let's see what we do. We lose the game. And we all know the third goal shouldn't have come to it, but for me the first goal was the winner, not the third, because what we did after the first goal at the top of the management team as well, and as well as the players on that pitch, was just ridiculous. It was panic stations from the manager and from the players. So what we have to now do is, it's almost like we're going to start again, because all the question marks are back again. Everyone's, you know, not everyone. The support and the people who are happy that, not happy we lost, but happy to get back on. He's not the right man, he's out of his depth, he's this, this, this, this, this. So that already brings a bit of uncertainty. And then you look on the players and go, in a game that you were cruising with not much threat, you've lost a match. So when you're playing against Chelsea in Man United National, how are you going to cope? And yeah, we played against Liverpool last week who were so potent. And they didn't hardly have a look. What makes that worse for me is that if we beat Newcastle, then you look at this game and you're like, well, whatever. And the players go in with that attitude and it's, that's, you know, there's a bit more confidence. And a draw is like a draw thing. You go, well, all right, a draw thing. For now is, for now you're looking at this game going, we've got to get something out of this. And then if we don't, then there's a couple of weeks and we're like, yeah. And the club and the players are putting untold pressure on. Everything's just... Everything's just piling up on top of each other and it shouldn't be like that. You know what I mean? You know, we've got 37 points. You know, that should be it. And could well be it, could well be it. But if you look at the... Is that the bar we should set in? That's what I'm about to say, though, Bas. That's just what I'm about to say is, we're thinking about it like that because you can't think of. Or, well, as I'm saying, if we're on Sunday, on Saturday, you'll be thinking about it going, we've got 40 points, what can we get now? The feeling's not like that now. The feeling is like, well, we've got... Where are we going to get the next three points from? Oh, my God, we've got Chelsea and then we've got West Ham. It's always a tricky little game. Then we've got Arsenal and everything's like now feeling like, you know, it builds up on top. The players can't handle that pressure. And that, to me, is the worry where you're thinking, well, rarely, any other season, you know. But like I said before, with eight games to go, we shouldn't be in this position. And I'm not saying that, like, we shouldn't be in this position because we're there for football. Just the players we've bought and the level of player that we've got, I'm not saying they're amazing because they're not... They're not top six standard by any means. But you shouldn't be looking over your shoulder at some of the teams in the Premier League but sadly, that's where we are because our players can't cope with a little bit of pressure and that's been going since November or December, sorry. Where as before that it was like, well, there's no pressure on this team. They'll be all right. They'll pick up wins. It'll be all right. It can turn. We've said that before, that there's very winnable game. Unfortunately, we had a winnable game sitting within the winning position and blew it but there's very winnable... The four away games, the only one you'd write off is Tottenham and that might... Spears for all, we could be in the Champions League final and that game might mean anything to them but that's the only game I would look at now and write off and go, we'd never do well there anyway and they're the top side. The other three, West Ham Palace and Fulham Palace has lost their home to Brighton Palace is down there, Palace is very good there down there. West Ham are having the season of the lives all of a sudden, like 40% better than last season or something and a two points ahead of us. So they're not exactly amazing Cardiff have just beaten them and Fulham are down. So you should be able to look at them and go, we should be able to get seven out of nine points from them. We should be though. We should be able to... And then that means a barely winner home, that's ten points and then what I'm trying is then Chelsea Arsenal United, it's almost three games because it's, what can we get out of them? You know, Arsenal are open but they can be, United are the best of those three in my opinion, but you don't know what United will turn up and Chelsea are the same, Chelsea's are night feds. Chelsea turn up and play the way they can't deal with us but Chelsea turn up having just got through in Europe, a long trip and all that and coming and that's quite on it. That's a good point for Sunday, I think that's what Everton have got to be looking at. They've got to be looking at going. You know, they've had another three, we. We want KF to score two early on by the way so they're hanging on. No, what you want is Everton to come out Sunday and be you know, don't let Chelsea settle into the game. Don't let the midday players feel like, oh God, we're going to have to wait really hard to win this and then almost go because you know, we've heard Saari, we've heard the question marks over the players making one of those games where the players are just like, oh, you know what, can't be arsed with this. Do you know what, that's what you've got to do, haven't you? You've got to get in the face, you've got to get in from the start and go where the players are like, oh, we're going to have to wait extra hours and I don't know if I've got it in my legs today. What I'd say from this is for me, this is all, this is a real test now, I think on Sunday. A real test for them and I think it's a test for the manager and I think it's a test for the players. We win Sunday that's it, there's no worries about relegation then, it's done. And a lot of people watching this are probably spitting at the table going, I'm not worried about it anyway. I get that, fair enough. The other teams would have to go something to get above everything. Of course. Of course, but while the threat is still there, it's a threat isn't it? What it would do is it calm everyone, it'd be a win against the top six team which you think the manager needs. You know, it's all very, we had good results against Liverpool, fair enough, right? We have only beaten Westam. As we speak above us, Leicester, haven't we? Wafford, didn't beat Wafford, didn't beat Wolves and we beat Leicester. Leicester and we haven't beaten Westam yet. Leicester and Leicester away is the only team above us that we've beaten. That says it all, that says it all. We haven't beaten Leicester. Everyone we've beaten is but he's currently sitting below us. So again, everything about this team. That's why Sunday is a big game for Everton Football Club. It's a big game for the manager. It's a big game for those players because it's that you can't, I can make excuses for reasons why we've lost more than 50% of our games by the odd goal, right? But then you can flip it the other way, it's the games goal, but remember yesterday that we've won five of our 10 games by the odd goal. So, you know, it's as broad as it's longer, I suppose, but we have got to go out on Sunday and ensure that we beat a team who was in that top. We've got to go out. This team isn't going for the Premier League. All right, they want to finish fourth, but they've got a big European game because they listen that's the European trophy. They didn't get them in the Champions League anyway if they win it. It's a trophy for the manager so they've got to take it seriously and it's quite sure they are. So, you know, if you can get an early goal, it means that they've got to focus, then you fly back, you don't get back till Friday afternoon or whatever it is or early hours and then travel up to Liverpool without preparation, without that and then get into the game. If our atmosphere will be cranked up, we had the originally in last night, the last one, the originals, when we doing a show, checked that out and they talking about cranking the atmosphere up and it's where the fans play a part, but the players have got to go out and do the job. They've got to be better in the final third. And if you run it, David Lewis and people like that, are they really, is the keeper really as good as what, courts, why, was or check? No, he's not. You know, are they the team they were two or three years ago? No, they're not. Have they got good plays, of course? They have Williams fantastic. Obviously there's the little matter of Ross Barclay. He'll give the game extra spice. They've got Hazard, he's fantastic. They've got Heigwai, he's a brilliant centre forward. But they're beatable . Of course. We give a decent account of ourselves down there in November. You were at the game, we were okay, you know, we done well and we were full value for a point daily. We got to do it Sunday. I mean, I was just going through some of the stuff before the heads of heads and stuff. We hadn't scored against them since Martin, as was Armand at the end of the league. The three of them, Funes, Morrie, the last ever to play to score against Chelsea in the Premier League and that should have been the winner . I mean, that same season, we beat them 3-1, Godderson, so it was just six times against them in the league that year. And the thing with that day, the Godderson, that team that beat them that day wasn't as good as the team we've got now, individually, collectively it was because it did it, but the Chelsea team that day was better, I would say was better than what they'll put out on Sunday. But that day when Naishmith got the hat-trick, everyone was off for it, the crowd were off for it, Naishmith, the players were off the goals, and we set the tempo and we won the game, and that's what we have to do, we can't keep having games that were blown, it's a home game for Chelsea. We can't, and compared, we've spent stupid money. Someone said this to me in the Darby of Aftan, James would be bottom, said to me in the Aftan, I was going to take back the toilet, and he went to Otirach and I said, but do you know what happened to me? He said, but you know what, he said we've spent £300 million and we're still playing, like a team that's near the bottom, just fighting to stay in a game. The money we've spent, we should be taking these games. Chelsea should be coming to God and thinking, oh no, we're on a back 40, these are going to be flying as luck of the players they've got, and we're not, we're still going into it bit that mentality of, if we get at them and if we keep it tight, we might be able to do it. That's because we're not very good, that's just not very good, and it's going to be an interest in eight games, because I honestly think the manager's got eight games to save his job. Do you? Yeah. Because I can't accept, I can't personally accept what way we are at the moment. I just don't think it's good enough. I know you feel slightly different, but what I mean is is that I just think the manager, put a dish right, let's just say the next eight games we pick up two wins from the next eight games and the rest of the feet, is that good enough? Is that genuinely good enough? 43 points. Is that genuinely good enough? What I was going to say when you were saying I feel slightly different, where I'm coming from is I don't think you'd have had long enough to try and take the team. No, no, that's fine, but right, but the flip side to that is it's in front of you. Some are saying to me yesterday it's not better than last season. I think it is watching it. I enjoy watching this team marginally more than I enjoyed watching Sam Allardyce's team. I think Sam Allardyce's football was shite and I hated every second because it was crap. I think this team, what I saw like on Saturday, the attack on the move right, I think attacking wise and football wise, we are better, there is been progression but ultimately results wise, we haven't and that's the thing. Now where am going do you think when you're saying you've got that to save his job? I don't know whether Mishiri is thinking like that. I don't know. I honestly don't know but I wouldn't understand it. If we got to me and he went sorry, 43, if it is two wins I'll be biting your hand off for two wins at the minute but if it's two wins and we finish with 43, 44 points the manager himself has said all season we've got to be better than last season last season we finished eight on 49 points so if we finish 10th on 43, 44 points quite clearly he's failed because he set his own target so is Mishiri going to go well, we've spent another 900 million or whatever it was on us. I know we recoup money and all that but I've put another 100 million that and with two places further off with no signs that we're getting any better he may well pull the plug I don't know who he'd bring in I'm not really talking about replacing the manager, all I'm saying is from the outside looking in the end of last season the difference is the end of last season I'm looking at the end of last season going I know all the dice is going so it's all going to be good I'll be still winning games but I'm looking at going it's all going to be good he's leaving and it's fine and then look at the season and just go do you know what we can't keep saying? I wish it was me in February because that's how I feel now with everything me and my mate were talking about it last week it's like get to the summer and then you get that football love again you go back to being a kid and you're like we'll change on players and this is the year that we'll improve and it starts off alright and by January it's like grandeur there again and you're going how can a club that has money to spend and has seemingly better football players never make any progress how can you build and build I look Liverpool and I will and I know people might not like it I'm not asking them because they're in our city clop coming but he didn't do anything in the first season he blew games he tuned up at Southampton and lost 3-2 and stuff like that the year later 3-1 up above we've got B4-3 but he was giving them little moments have we had enough little moments I think the thing I think the thing why I look at silver and go why I man why I look at silver and go I don't know about getting rid of those because I genuinely don't see a replacement and people throw them at me stop it but that's sad that the only reason you it's like the only two reasons not to get rid of a manager are people are like well it's another manager and we can't keep getting rid of managers and we don't know to replace him that's sad, that says to me well actually I've got no faith in the manager but what's the point in getting rid of him but what I'm saying that's what people say I believe that if he had his own plays it would get better but then he's not a very good coach then then he's not a very good coach is he because he's a... I'm not arguing for other managers what I'm saying is if he can't get anything out of plays then he's not a very good coach surely any play you get isn't your play you buy a play it and all your buying is what you've seen and potential you've still got to make them your play it and so I mean I'll be honest right this might be his incident I'm being honest I am absolutely zero impressed with this zero impressed there's nothing that impresses me about him at all there's nothing he does that I look at and go there's nothing his PR skills are zero he doesn't inspire me with with his subs with the way he sets the team up the way the team plays nothing impresses me and I'm not like going oh impress me I'm just saying that you're going when you're looking for reasons to keep them for yourself isn't it that's what you look and go well I like the way he does that I'm looking and going all better than last year yes it is have you got better players yes we have but then again a look at the results and go results wise because I never thought for a million years in December early January middle of January that I'd be sat in middle of March and we'd still be blown results like we did last week he's got impress me impress me you've got three next three on games stand with this one on Sunday three teams all fighting for the top four show me you've got something show me you've got something that I'll go I've got confidence in you for that game listen he possibly has got an interview for his job these last eight games and for all we know we could win four of them and then we go like okay he's finished alright there's been a few signs there and there was signs for an hour on Saturday there was signs there was signs of Cardiff there was signs against Liverpool it's not good if you then blow three goals and you know pull up the goalkeeper in line get a grip of him and go listen concentrate on your football I mean looking at the head to head we've won nine they've won 25 of the meetings in the premier league it's been 19 draws they've had 21 clean cheats we've had 12 seven red cars two of us six to then so it's feisty the last two games that I've ended 0-0 the last time we scored we've won one in five they've won three in the last five when you look at it it's shocking honestly you know that one in five that's not an isolation is it but that's not an isolation because we could go to the next we've lost 30 in games and we've played 30 honestly I've got there's nothing I can say about these players in this manager so we've got we've won so has win day to 33% isn't it one in three one in three for a team that has got I've talked to Bailey before he's a red and he was going you've got some really good plays in your squad though and you're like I don't know whether they're not really good people think they are or whether it's a manager but I don't even we've got England's number one goalie we've got two memories I need to see the statistics on him no I know but I'm just saying we've got two French internationals in our back four do you know what I mean we've got Ireland's captain we've got internationals all through the team but yeah none of it is gel together blaze you've played in the world cup did you blame for that the manager I just really blame that on the manager performances like that in Newcastle I blame 75% of it on the players and 25% on the manager I'd go less than that 70% on the players when he brought me in on I just think he caused that much panic in our back whatever whatever our back was I think things like that just like you said before caused chaos where it didn't need to be cut where it's that's up needs it to be like so players look so players just go okay that's fine no shit he's worried well there's one before we finish there's one more complication for Sunday and that's obviously K2 mean it has to play because Jack's injured again and it's a and you know what I like Jerry mean it because I haven't seen enough of him so I like the look of him in training but it's about time he put a market and he made his debut proper debut at Chelsea when you went and it was very very good he has to do it again he's just been there back in the Columbia squad he's got to come out Sunday and he's got to boss that defence and show everybody that I am the leader you've bought me for 30 million 29 million quid this is what he should be saying and he should be going out there hopefully say he must be fit because John Joe Kenny had he was in training this morning he was in training this morning so get him back in I mean listen he hasn't been great to see but he's had another couple he's the last couple he's done well in and get out there and show Chelsea that they're in for a game from the start how many times when we were in the Europa League I know we never have as good a team as Chelsea but how many times did we turn up on Sunday and it would be like can't be arsed with this and that's like whatever I don't think it can't be arsed can I get to the level I need to get and I think that's what you'll find with Chelsea you don't strike me as a team that would be like everyone's pulling in the same direction and that's where you've got that that's where you've got it and getting in front Sunday players on top because they've got to come out and fight because I'm not asked where the people think whether they're still I never even looked I'm not even asked me doesn't bother me because they're all shite but if everyone's going to go this mean forget whether you believe that we're still going to be looking over our shoulder or whether you believe we can still 37 fucking points it's embarrassing what's annoying now is and people might think this is annoying but if we were the ones Saturday we were 4 points off 7th that's what's annoying and all annoying to me I know 7th is whatever it is but what I'm saying is if that was the target at the start of the season because that would have been higher Saturday would have pushed within fucking pull your fucking fingers out your fucking arses I'll see you later, smile