 Next question is from Ileganky. How can you spot a good at-home workout plan versus a poorly planned one? Almost everything I've seen online has me doing burpees until my knees give out. That's a great. This is a good question, okay? So here's some characteristics of a bad at-home workout plan. It's not phased. It is 100% completely circuit-based, so it's just a bunch of exercises thrown together. It includes lots of jumping and bounding, jumping, bounding, jumping side-to-side, jumping over a chair. Those, you know, explosive movements like that, you'll see that in our programs. Yeah, it has its place, but you know, you have to be advanced, yeah. You have to be advanced and you have to do the work, like leading into that and then also, like, you know, make sure you focus on the intent of, you know, what you're trying to get out of it. Yes, they don't incorporate rest periods properly, so it's just, it's just cardio, you know, just cardio with your body. You're not really doing any resistance training. They don't have a stability or, excuse me, or tension component. You know, isometrics applied properly require no equipment and are extremely effective and valuable when you combine them with body weight exercise. If you have an at-home workout program that it doesn't incorporate any isometrics or stability movements with your body weight movements, then you know it was written by somebody that doesn't understand how to make an equipment-free or minimal equipment program effective. Well, this is what inspired MAPS Anywhere. Like every program that we've done, years ago, we talked, you know, a lot of Mind Pump early on before we had all the programs, was us pointing out all different modalities and things that we saw in the space and probably one of the most abused workouts is at-home workouts. They're the worst program. Yeah, I mean, and to take a shot right at some big company, you're talking about a multi-billion dollar company, Beachbody, which is primarily at-home workouts, and it's solely based off of intensity and look, it's all entertainment. Yeah, it's all entertainment. It's geared towards marketing to demographics of people that will identify with the person who's leading the class, and then it's just intensity-based, and it's just a bunch of random exercises that are put together with no sort of rhyme or reason that are designed to kick your ass or make you sweat, and that's not effective programming. I don't give a shit if you're in-home or in the gym, that's poor programming, and so us addressing that, talking about that, of course, our response to that is, okay, if we were going to write an at-home program that is scaled up correctly, and then also has the flexibility for the level of fitness, because that's so important. When you're talking about at-home workout, you get a very wide range of people that are taking that. Everything from a brand new beginner to a 60-year-old lady who's never worked out before to somebody who's advanced in traveling because they're on the go and they're a business woman or man, and they just need to do a workout inside their hotel room, so we had to take that all into consideration, like how do we build a program that's scalable for all levels of fitness, but then is also programmed knowing that, hey, there could be somebody too who's coming into this as very beginning or at 60-years-old, how do they have it effective? That was what- And there's a lot of variables that you just don't see people use with, and you mentioned isometrics, and I think that that was one that really caught my attention a long time ago just because it was so underutilized and it was so effective, and the strength gains are beyond just the angle that you're actually applying these. It actually cascades in a little bit further and you get stronger in even further range of motion, and so there's just lots of benefit to it, and also it's very safe, so you can ramp up and really get an intense workout and get that same kind of a feel with your central nervous system, but less damage, and so why would we not highlight that as well as rubber bands that also provide that same type of stimulus, but now the damage by itself is lower. If you look at all the categories of workout programs, the category that has the worst workout programming, the worst written exercises, the worst written workouts, or the at-home workouts by far, I mean there's bad workout programming all the way around, but when I look at workout at gym workout programs or barbell and dumbbell-based programs, a larger percentage, a much larger percentage of those I would say are written better. The at-home workout programs I have never actually ever seen an at-home well-written, popular at-home workout program. They're terrible. There's a couple reasons for that. One is the audience that they're targeting. They're targeting people who don't want to go to the gym, just want to work out at home. They know it's more average, regular, everyday, you know, Joe people who don't know the difference between a good and a bad workout. They just want to sweat at home and if they're sore then they think it's a good workout, and how do you market it to them? I'm going to make it flashy, make it entertaining, I want to call it, you know, urban cowboy workout or, you know, Pilates, Pilates combat training or something weird on combinations like that, and it's just terrible workout program. The second reason, and this is 100% true, and if you're a trainer with a lot of experience, you know exactly what I'm talking about. If you want to design a good workout program without, I mean a good, well-made one that's going to produce good results, it's going to be appropriate, it's scalable, meaning somebody as a beginner can continue to do this as they get stronger and more fit, or somebody could enter into it as an intermediate in advance and still get great results, that requires way more knowledge and creativity when you don't have a lot of equipment. If I have tons of equipment, I still need to know what I'm doing, but you know if I'm thinking of back exercise, I have, you know, 15 different options. When I'm thinking, oh, we don't have much equipment, we have a band, or maybe a pull-up bar, like okay, what are some of the movements I can do for correcting upper, you know, posture, or strengthening the back, or how am I going to work the glutes effectively when I don't have any equipment, or the quads, or what about the calves, or what about, you know, the shoulders, you know, I don't have anything I can press overhead, so how am I going to give this person a great workout with different angles, it requires more experience, more creativity, and you just, it's just harder to do, so a lot of the program you see at home, it's just terrible. Yeah, I know you guys have been seeing like lots of hilarious ideas like creativity-wise out there, what to do with it, my favorite, my personal favorite, I have to share this, was, this was technically, I guess it was a squatter, they were trying to target their glutes, but they had their hands up in the air like this, they'd squat down, they come, and then they do like a side bend, sort of trying to get their oblique to crunch, and then lift their leg up at the same time, with their arms up in the air like jazz hands, that was amazing! Yeah, let's combine five different exercises. I mean, the person who's asking these questions probably already got a pretty good idea, because the fact that you, you noticed that right away, that many of these programs just throw burpees in there, and the reason why you see that in these workouts is, it's an easy way, Is it like a burpee button? It's such an easy way to elevate a client's heart rate, and make the workout feel hard. If you do 30 burpees, and then you go to do a push-up, a lunge, squat, any other body weight movement, it's hard, because you just did 30 burpees. Well, this is a time-tested trick, it's just the same trick that parallels like supplements, where they want you to feel something right away, and then then you think it's working, because I feel it, like intensity is something that is overused, because I feel it, so therefore, this is good. Yeah, it used to be back in the day jumping jacks, then burpees became, look, if you have an at-home workout program that includes burpees, and it's not an OCR training program, it's probably a bad program, it's probably a crappy program. The only time burpees, not the only time, but for the most part, the only time burpees are appropriately programmed, are when you're training for obstacle course racing, where burpees is part of the competition. Other than that, if you see it in your program, it's probably a crappy program. There's something high intense, but you got, yeah, the intent has to be there. We're hammering intensity, but I want to make it clear too, though, that it doesn't mean that like an at-home workout can't be really challenging, really challenging, and then just laying into the intensity without any sort of real thought behind the program, two different things. Yeah, because you can make, I mean, how often do you guys get tagged in maps anywhere where workouts where people are like, oh my god, that kicked my butt, that was hard. Sure, absolutely. It definitely can be hard, but here's another way too that's more simple for the person who doesn't understand what we're talking about with programming and exercise design. They're like, okay, I feel like you still didn't answer me. If you feel like when you're done, you got more of a cardiovascular workout from it than you got like a muscle building workout, and like, you should feel a good muscle pump, muscle soreness from the next day, more so than you feel like I just ran a mile. Yeah, because that's what a lot of these at-home workouts are. They're just, they're a bunch of exercises put in a circuit with low rest periods. And really what that is is just more like cardio. It's less like, it's more anaerobic than it is anabolic. You're not sending this big muscle building signal when you're not giving any rest period and you're constantly going from exercise to exercise. Yeah, if you, and here's the thing, aerobic doesn't require a lot of programming. It's actually not that hard if you want to jump rope. Yeah, you want to improve your aerobic capacity, then go, you know, hike up a hill or do some sprints or jump in place. You're going to get some of that. You don't need workout programming for that, but when it comes to building muscle, speeding up the metabolism, sculpting the body, where you can actually shape the body because you're working and building muscle, that requires more programming. And I'll say, I'll make this challenge all day long. I would put maps anywhere up against any at-home workout program and I would 100, I'm fully confident it would be superior to 99.9 percent of the ones that I've seen what's out there. I've almost, I've never looked at an at-home program and said, wow, that was written well. It's never, almost never happened. We just need an infomercial.