 We are back for another edition of Watching Baseball. This is the 1978 World Series. Jake, tell them where we're at in the series. We are game four. I believe we're in the sixth inning. The Yankees are down in the series two, one, and they're down in this game three to one, I think. I think it's three, nothing. Three, nothing. Three, nothing. They're down in the game. And yeah, this is pretty crazy. I don't want to give too, too much away, but this is some good action. We were looking where to start this game, and I think we clearly found the winner. I think what you need to know is the Yankees are trying to go back to back, right? Yep, a belly to belly. This is Prime Steinbrenner, fired the manager midseason. After winning the World Series last year. After winning the World Series the previous season. And then this year is the Bucky Dent year. The Yankees come back. There's the Boston Massacre. I think they were down 14 games or something like that to the Red Sox. They sweep them in the four game set. One game playoff Bucky Dent show. So that's kind of how we got here. And I think we got first and second. We just gave up a single and a walk. Reggie Jackson versus Tommy John, Jim. Here we go. Not John Tommy. As always, this is brought to you by the store at Johnboymedia. Shop.Johnboymedia.com. You can get this shirt and you can get this shirt where you can get both shirts together. Both. This is Reggie Jackson. And this is pretty nuts too, because literally became Mixster October last year. And he's coming up in a 3-0 game. And a home run ties it. Yeah. Reggie, Reggie. It's Reg I. 5 for 13 in the series. What a good series. It's pretty good. It's October, man. That's somewhere around 400. I don't give that nickname away. No idea if I did the math correctly, though. Hello. Reggie, Reggie. High and in. Trying to jam him. Just announcing his presence. Tommy John. This is going to be in a bat, Reg. Tommy John's got a good picture look to him. Aging pitch. I don't know how it is. Oh, that was nice. Slide piece. I liked that one. Slide, Joneser. Make this teeth. I mean, that's just a picture face. Tommy John. He just grit his teeth again. Oh. Tied him up. Oh, a foul tip. He's going after him, though. I like foul tips. I like that. He's not backing down at all. Giving him his best stuff. There's a little replay. There is a slightly different angle over the replay. That swing from Reg. I like that. The kick out with the front leg. Now it's 1-2. Got to go slider away, right? Got to go something crazy. No, it's got a lot of the plate. Inter right. So fast. Roy White, that's favorite. Oh, Willie Randolph was out for these playoffs. Pulls hamstring, so. Why did he do that? Don't move. But if Willie Randolph can't run. That was just in the crowd. I think he was. He was in the sewers outside. Reggie, 6 for 13. 6 RBIs. 6 for 14 now. Pretty good World Series. Tommy. Here he comes. Looking good. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Looking real good. It's a nice swing. Little Harper. Hall of Famer. Little Bryce. You like the startups? I do. I appreciate that. I think if someone tried to bring him back, I wouldn't like it. Yeah, I agree. They had their time in place, and let's let it be. Let it be. Otherwise you're doing too much. Let it be. So who's up now? Oh, Tommy. Holy smokes, easy. It's always double barrel. Yeah. Is that why that phrase was always so popular? Because when teams didn't use bullpens, they just always got a righty and a lefty up. Because every time we've gone to the bullpen. That's true. Even with closers, like Sparky Lyle. Yeah, true. Has always been double barrel. I don't get two guys these. Better than just getting one. Some people say. Sweet Lou takes ball one. Sweet Lou Pinella. Thurman Munson on second. Reggie Jackson on first. This is what I'm talking about. It's your dad's Yankee. Hee hee hee hee hee hee. If you guys don't know what this play is, it's very famous. Thurman scores. The best kind of chaos. Oh, people are about to get so hot. The sword is already out there. Good. You like the turtleneck? I love that. It's cold. That looks. I love that. Two different blazers on the arms. Is one AL and one NL. I think so, yeah. World series. Yeah. So Reggie was out. He was forced out when they stepped on second. Yes. And they went to get the double play, which would have ended the inning. Reggie's not a runner anymore, and he just sticks his ass into the ball. So Thurman does good here to get off the base. Oops. Jackson's confused. Jackson might have knew what was going on, too. It might have been a little too unconfused. Sweet Lou with the liner to short. Did he drop that on purpose? I think that's open to discussion. I don't know if he ever admitted. I think he says no. But it'd be a good play to say yes. If he dropped it on purpose, then we have just heads. Like, this play is either the most heads-up baseball all around or the most heads-down baseball around it. Like, either he dropped that, then couldn't get to, and he got blocked, and Reggie was confused. I mean, Reggie knew what he was doing. Reggie knew what he was doing. Reggie had a pretty good idea of what he was doing. Dodger's fans have to still be pissed about this. Oh, yeah. That was bullshit. Yeah, the run scores because of it. Oh, nice. He's going to stand where Reggie stood. That's good. What are the Ups saying? That play was a mess. I don't know what to tell you, Tommy. You know what? The Ups haven't even gathered yet, right? I mean, I don't think they gathered back in the day. I think they're all fighting Tommy. That Ump was confused. He called safe when Reggie was out. He stepped on second. He was talking about Thurman. I know, but he still needs to call the out on Reggie. I mean, he's got a good beef. Yeah, he's got some beef there. So who's our shortstop for the Dodgers? Yeah, they're talking about using replays in 78. Took us a couple of years, huh? I think it's like 30 years. Yeah, which appeared again. Sucks. Know who the shortstop was for the Dodgers, Jim? No. Probably know him from another sport, Bill Russell. Look at this. Honestly, that angle doesn't look too bad. It's the other one. Weird, the other one. It's very clear. Because Reggie Jackson sees a ball coming at him. Doesn't get it. Doesn't get it. Look at the bat boy out there. Doesn't get out of the way. That's the main issue. And we're moving on. Yeah, that's it. Imagine if you're the shortstop, Bill Russell. And you do that on purpose, correct? You drop it on purpose to get the double play. Right. And then you make the heady play. Like the heads up play. And then you get flocked because Reggie sticks his ass out. That's what I'm saying. See, they just had to make sure it's two outs. Reggie was out at second on the course. Confirming. Who's this? This is Tommy John versus, I can't see. Not Dusty Baker. He's on the Dodgers. This is Greg Nettles. No dribbler. All right. Didn't look like Greg was busting out of the box there. Also, did you see him drop his helmet? Yeah. No, he's upset. Look at him. That's not what he wanted to do. Very clear. That's not what he wanted to do. Here's another replay, Jake. This is the one. Yeah. I mean, it's the most obvious thing. First baseman gives him, come on. Come on. You can't do that. You got in the way. Can't do that. You did and it worked. Imagine if A-Rod and Bronson Royale, they didn't reverse it. A-Rod would have the same moment. He dropped that on purpose. He's a world. He's a shortstop. He dropped that on purpose. He's a really shortstop in the shortstop. He's a really heads-up play. So we're going to skip now to the eighth inning, correct? Yes. Bottom eight, I believe. End of the seven. All right, we're bottom eight now. Bottom eight. Who's up? Is this Paul Blair? Number two. Paul. He's my guy. Paul A-V and the power of three. Helped him win the World Series in 77. Trying to help him again in 78. Did he start? He's a postseason hero. Did he start? I believe Paul Blair did start. Yes. He started in center field. And Mickey Rivers comes in and pinch hits from. So I'm wondering what's going on there. Well, he was a defensive guy. But he has some good timely hits. Right, but he's batting leadoff. So he's batting leadoff instead of Mickey Rivers. So I wonder if he's got good numbers against Tommy John. What year is this, 78? Yeah, because he only played 75 games. The way you said, I wonder if he has good numbers against Tommy John. And he's just got a hand. I think of Tommy John as the surgery, not the man. Right. So it'd be funny if there was a stat of like. Oh, against pitchers. A-Rod versus pitchers who have had Tommy John. Yeah. Post Tommy John pitchers, A-Rod crushes him. You get stat. Baseball doesn't have enough stats. I'm going to have to check with the old guard on that. Because Mickey Rivers played in 141 games that year. So Paul Blair. I mean, he's a postseason hero. He's getting hits. That's all he does. I mean, they started a lefty. Mickey Rivers has a lefty, right? Mickey Rivers is lefty. Yeah. So you have lefty on lefty, maybe Paul Blair action. Got some nice VHS lines. What's he doing? Didn't want to do a new ball. Just slick. How's that? Dick Houser. Excuse me? Gary Forster. The way they did that was like they were surprised. Is that Paul Yeager, your catcher? I haven't seen him in a couple hours. It's the last video we get. Calling for a lefty. Wow, Tommy John's got to be pissed because he's a lefty. These guys are just excited to name guys in the pen. Yeah, they can see. They have a camera that can show them what's going on. It's a game for them. There's Tommy John. Yes, the one-sleeve jacket walk needs to come back. Needs to come back. I know we said we didn't want stirrups to come back. I think I want the one Paul John needs to come back. I think that's allowed. Yeah. This, get grabbed before you start throwing. Roy White. Roy White. I don't know if you guys knew this. That's fair player. 5 for 15 in the World Series. What's that batting average, Jim? 5 for 16? 15. Got it. 3-33. So I was getting a guess, but I didn't have confidence in my guess. I was setting you up. A good set up. Rare. I don't have any confidence. Rare. Oh, the bun. It's a nice one. Can you get past them? No. It's close. Gets the tying run in scoring position. Tying run is on second. That's a bun. That's an OK bun. I understand. And I mean, you've got the dudes coming up, too, if you're the Yankees. That's sacrificed by a Y. I don't know if you tagged him. Controversy. Maybe. Thurman's up. So yeah, I mean, that's a bun to get the tying run of the World Series for Thurman Munson and Reggie Jackson. I think that's a great bun. We're OK with that. That's a great bun. Yeah. Well, actually, Roy White had a better chance to hit a single and gave the head of goalie. We'll take you. Eat a bug. Paul Blair on second. Thurman Munson at the plate. Dude, you know that announcer? Someone said they never call them Thurm the worm. Stop to hear that. I was about to do this. Stop to hear that. That comment made me laugh out loud. I don't think anyone ever, no one actually called them Thurm the worm. No way. The other announcer, Joe Gariglio, whatever. Garigola, something like that. They said we butcher's name. We didn't recognize his voice in the last one. I've read his book. He grew up with Gnocchi Bearer. I'm just not going to recognize a voice. Right. Not alive. He's alive in my heart. You weren't alive. No, I wasn't. You weren't alive during this. Is that person wearing all yellow? Thurman chasing some high heat. Oh, yeah, he's got the tying run. He's amped up. He's so excited to act like he doesn't care. That's true. He's got a big game broadcasting voice. Off his foot. He fouled it off his foot. He was hoping that they weren't going to call it, just so we could have more controversy. He could be the one that knew. Don't feel good. Off his foot. Fouled it off his foot. Oh, too. What do you throw on a Thurm? Dirt in it. This reliever seems pretty comfy. Too comfy, I'll be honest. He was chasing the high heat. So maybe. Climb the ladder. Maybe you climb the ladder here and then dirt. And look at Thurman, though. Yeah. Don't care. Down the line. Wow. Oh, too pitch. Yeah. Show me Thurman. Show me Munson. Give me the crossed arms. Show me Munson. We were over the dugout. There's a crowd reaction. Kind of. OK. Must have been raining. Those must be range coats. I don't know. There's so many people scattered about in yellow. It's a style. Dude, Paul Blair is a hero. Paul Blair has done a lot in the postseason. There he is. Yeah. No guard in the line, huh? Does he get close to it? Nope. Doesn't even throw the glove. Bad effort. Got to be honest with you. Is that Ron Sey? It is. He wasn't getting that, though. Hey. If Ron Sey was 5'10", maybe he gets his glove near that one. Is that a really bad 0-2 pitch? Yes. I think he was trying to climb the ladder, but didn't go up. So many yellow jackets had to be raining. Good playa. Strong hita. Good playa. Smart playa. Dude, it's like that's how Francesa talks, but that's just kind of how everyone used to talk. The captain. No nonsense. Yeah, who's? He's no nonsense with only doing nonsense. Like, he was standing two feet off the bag there just to do it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you really want to make something of this? We can. Oh, wow. I love that. I mean, that's retaliation, right? I love that. It's genius. You've got First Base open. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Reggie Jackson, Mr. October. And he just stuck his ass out. Yes. Tom and the Sorter was pretty mad. I love that move. I think that had to come down from Tom and the Sorter or someone. That was on purpose, right? So that's something I never knew. I've seen the get hit on the ass. I had assumed so. There was a rain delay. So that excuses all the raincoats. I deducted that myself. Very smart. Yeah, it's something I never knew. So I've seen him stick his ass out a ton. I've seen that play. I didn't know he got hit his next time up. Tie game in a World Series. So you could say it's not on purpose, but. Yeah. There's a lot of things that add up. We did see Tommy John pitch inside to him, which is what the commentator was just saying. So, but. Whatever. OK, good job. Done. And that was lefty on lefty. But yeah, now they're going to go the righty for sweet Lou. We had a big hit last time. Hey, they took out the warm-up pitches, which was either this video or broadcasting getting slightly better. Maybe they went to commercial and this video cut it out. Yeah. Fundamental stretches. So wait, we got a tie game right now, right? Tie game. Tied at threes. Bob Welch and Lou. Yeah, exactly. You see that? Yes. The backswing. I just want to make sure you saw that backswing was as voracious as the force one. Crazy that everyone gets old. Sad and beautiful. That was a nice pitch. You get that? I like that pitch. Pine tar on the thumb. I'm in the Bob Welch. This Jack Welch. In the way, the air to the jelly for him. Oh, six-code passcode on Jake's phone. Well, dude, it's the face ID thing. If you don't do that, then you got to go to the passcode. I don't have face ID nor six-code passcode. I don't think you have to. The number passcode is the only option. I know that's what I have. But it's just four. You got for me six, bro. I don't know what to tell you. Watch, sweet Lou. Here we go. Bob Welch. Dude, he wants that pitch. And I think he should be getting it. Yeah. Feels like a home crowd thing. Yeah, I was going to say, Bob Welch. He's a young winner, two-time All-Star. This is young. This is awesome, dude. This is his rookie year. OK. Well, that's why he's not getting pitches. Yeah. Baseball says, umpires are so stupid. I can't sleep Adela. So we had to come a little more inside. And that was actually all playing. And he's pumping them, yeah. Full count. Bob Welch won 27 games in 1990. Let it be known. If you were a young Dodger fan watching this game and you were screaming. And to this day, you're saying that you got screwed by Reggie Jackson and the umpire. As of now, I'm somewhat with him. It's a case. From what I've seen, Yankees got some calls. There's a case. He's got some calls. That's all I'm saying. Bob Welch throwing cheese. You think he's going to mix one up or he's just keeping it heater? I think he's going to try and hit that same spot and he'll be swings, but high. Throwing cheese. He's locking on a dumpster once. You like him, huh? Strong chin. Chiseled face on sweet. And when the Yankees asked him to play by play and he just sounded like a ramblin' drunk. They were like, no, thank you. Tried to jam him. Where's that coming now? How? Oh. Guys. Who caught it? OK. They ruled an infield fly anyway. Good stuff. Who's that first baseman? That's our guy. I forget his name. What do the hat come off there? That got tight. Jesus, fellas. That first baseman, sorry I don't know his name. Stocky. I like his look. Like his build? I think the number six doesn't help him. I think a low digit first baseman is still a surprise. That's Steve Garvey. OK. I like the way he was built. Not Steve Harvey. Not Steve Harvey. 10-time All-Star Steve Garvey. Apologize. Just made some people upset. MVP. Most ballin'est player. All-Star games are bullshit anyway. And, ooh, dude, they don't give it any swings. I think they called that a swing. Did they? I thought that's what he just said, but see if they give us a count. No. Yeah. That's ridiculous. No, no, no, I'm cool, I'm cool, I'm cool. It's the complete opposite now where everything is a swing. Wave foul. Nettles, interested to see how he reacts, because he was pretty mad at his last at bat. Didn't run it out. Didn't run it out and toss the helmet. Thurman getting so bored on his other base. Allergic of second base. OK, watching the right knee. Watching the right knee. He did cock it. A little bit. Put it in his holster. Didn't click. Did nobody have a full leg kick back in the day? Was that why we were so drawn to like David Justice and guys like that? I haven't been noticing leg kicks. Because I mean, this one at even count is a leg kick today. No, but it is interesting how he turns it in. Trying to get ahead of that heater. It's like the same spot as before. Yeah, like it, like a little knee cock. It's not a step, but it is a knee cock. Who's that guy on the right? I'm not excited. I mean, that's a tough, tough camp. Tough lighting. Oh, they just fixed it. Joe need to cut away. Nettles. Juice up. I mean, I want to see Welsh throw something off speed. Like, yes, I respect throwing all gas. But also if you have even a mediocre breaking ball, it's a strike out here. Talking. Come out here. Jaeger saying the same stuff I am. And Welsh is saying, no, throwing fastball. Fastball's only going to skip this. Do it again. I mean, this is I mean, I think you're right. I think they're both trying to get him to like, dude, throw. You can't just go fastball. Yeah, just dirt one. And young Bob Welsh is saying, no, announce my presence with authority. Welsh won 27 games in 1990. This is the 78 World Series. Pretty crazy. 12 years gap. But yeah, we were alive. There's a breaking ball and Nettles ropes it. Oh my god, they just coerced him into throwing a breaking ball and Nettles. Fuck all you analytics people. I'm sorry. And I like analytics. But this is exactly what David Cohn and so many pitching coaches now talking about. It's pitch with confidence. You wanted to be clearly, you want to be clearly did not want to throw that. But you wanted to throw it because I wanted him to be confident in it. But he clearly couldn't be. Wonder if he goes back to it. Oh my god. If he does, then respect back to Welsh, because he's a sick puppy, but he's throwing fastball. Hey, we all saw that. You don't need to be that emphatic on a call that is just obvious. I like it. He's letting the upper deck know. People in the cheap seats. I think I like Nettles a lot. I mean, imagine if that goes out. Yeah, it was close. It's another little change to the story. OK. Woo. Look at that bench. That's broadcasting, babe. You did wrong. Lucky Dan got so late. That's been one of my biggest learns from all of this. Got him. I'm a huge Nettles fan. And ears is just like that. Gossage is throwing. All right. We are bottom 10 now. They are tied up at three a piece. Still Yankees are coming up to bat. And it looks like Mickey's up. Mickey Rivers pinch hitting for Paul Blair. Mickey Rivers pinching. Look at that stance. I thought that was just his old timer stance. That's how he really used to hit. Looks like there's a bit of a problem with the camera. OK. That was the pinch hit appearance. Great catch. That was the pinch hit. Got to leave Paul Blair in there. Now here he comes. Your dad's favorite player. Roy White. Roy White. The bunt will get lost in the box score. Should be the name of our podcast. Always does. That's stance. Was that the announcer or the umpire that said strike? It was perfectly timed. Believe it was the announcer. These announcers kind of did radio play by play. I think they might have. Were they doing both? I got lost in the wiki one day. And the way they have whoever's broadcasting it formatted like messes with my head. So I don't know though. Because I don't think they are. I don't think they are either. But I think like the radio and TV teams took turn switching or something. I don't know. Someone will comment it. But they're definitely over telling this announcer. All right. Two and two to Roy. That's a good pitch. I mean that's the name of the game. That's the intention. One, two, three. Good pitch on the move. Can't find it right now. Is this still our dude? Who's pitching? Welsh. It's still Welsh. Oh yeah. They just he had the game. He started during the season. So he was stretched out. But he didn't get the start in this game. OK, but that's very interesting then. Because he has other pitches. But in that inning with the runners on, he didn't want to throw anything fast. But he can't go through the order again. He's a rookie. All fat. But I'm just saying like, if you're one inning, you can do that. Right. If you're this is now his third inning. Yeah. He's going to have to start mixing in pitches. We saw something briefly. He started. I think he started nettles. Or no, not the nettles at that. The next inning, which we might have fast forwarded through. Mickey? He started him with the curve ball. Lost the fastball there. Yeah, he's getting his arms, I don't know, tired or losing. And Jim, this is a classic case. A classic case. Because I don't care. Well, I do care that he's your dad's favorite player. But you can't walk. I love that dude with the binoculars. You can't walk Roy White before Thurmond Munson and Reggie Jackson. Ooh. Yeah, you can't. That's, I mean, that's Jax. We named the monkey Jax. But it's no Alts, right? It's Bob Wills. No, Mickey Rivers just won out. Yeah. Can't do that. I mean, I think he was trying to attack him, but he was overthrown. Here we go. Here's some numbers. Zero hits from Welch or Gossage. That's actually a lot of fun. Yeah. All right, here's Thurm. Didn't want it. I'm interested. And yeah, that's a, God, I can't imagine Mr. October last postseason and just every time he comes up to bat, especially in these moments. Oh, gotcha. Yeah, you were just waiting for something special to happen. That one was a little juicy. No one was having trouble. No one was having trouble. The short, Russell had it the whole time. The camera guy had trouble. The camera guy was the only guy not sure about that. They're having trouble. No, no, we're good. As Russell settled under. We are fine. Reggie. Reggie. Reggie. This guy's losing it. So it's Welch. What? Dude, that's a strike. Yeah. Yeah. Do Dodgers fans hate Reggie Jackson? I don't think they were given the black back in the day. Or the outer third. That was a ball, but the first pitch was a strike. I don't. Do Dodgers fans still hate Reggie Jackson from this World Series? And the A's stuff, I don't know. Yeah, I would assume he's not loved by Dodgers fans. I think he's got East Coast, West Coast love. A's, Yanks. Yeah, I don't know. You going all haters here? No, that's what Reggie's haunting. Actually hasn't swung it, right? Hasn't swung it. And he's taken two strikes. One was a ball. Man, finds a hole. Game of inches, Jake. It's a game of inches. That's the one. Classic backup by Ron Sayer there. If young Jake was a Dodgers fan during the 70s, that's the one that I'd look back and say. That'd be an out. They'd shift. They'd probably be shifted perfectly for that now. I was in the 70s, though. Yeah, I'm just saying. I'm not a shifter, but. Secondary point. Nowadays, they probably shift for that. Strong, those handsome, strong boys. Another one of those strong men in pinstripes. And here we are again, sweet Lou. A lot of important at bats this game for the middle of this lineup. Yeah, it's a good that's how you want it to be. I'm sitting in the heater. Yeah, of course. I'd swing first pitch here. I'm sweet Lou. I'm swinging out of my shoes first pitch, sitting here. Odds are in your favor. Oh, no. That was he just missed his spot. That's the place he's been missing. Yeah, he's been missing. Which sucks to lefties, but it's like a really good pitch to righties because it looks like it's got a little tail on it. So I need to fly. There it is. Lou. There he comes. Very white. And I mean, a crazy ball game. Hugs all around. The Dodgers were up 2-0 in this series. And now it's 2-2. Really? Yeah. Yeah, it's a huge win. You go up 3-1 or it's 2-2. And that was a must win for the Yankees, basically. And there's an event that clearly happened, the Reggie hip thing, that you're just like, we're screwed. That overshadows the rest of this game. It certainly overshadows the Paul Blair Bunt. Paul Blair, yeah. No, no. Was it Roy Whitebunt? I think it was Roy White. Roy Whitebunted. And then Roy White scored the winning run on Sun here. That's what my dad liked him. Roy White. Dodgers win the first two games of the series. Yankees go on to sweep the final four. Good call, dad. His favorite player. With a little hip action. Little rain delay, too. Little gentleman's rain. Sweet Lou. Little Russell in the shot for this. You had to come out swinging if you were Lou there. High fastball. Just got it, man. Got on top. He wasn't throwing any other pitches, and he was missing his spots. Wow, he got a good jump. He didn't even need that good of a jump. Elmett just hanging on for dear life. Roy White fell off. Roy White was scoring. Yeah. Roy White was scoring. I got to say, before the high five was invented, it is weird. He had a hug in. Sweet Lou. Ooh. It was better. Reggie. Didn't realize Reggie got hit by a pitch this game. Oh, yeah. Give it to me. No, no interview. Why would they do that? That had never crossed anyone's mind yet. Never mind about the interview. Well, that was a good game. Good bunt. Good hit by pitch. If you're a Dodgers fan. Good hip. If you're of my dad's age, 14 to 20, watching that game. You must fucking hate Reggie Jackson. Hate him. And I think it's fair. Yeah. That's warranted. Turns into one of those weird competitor things. No, I'm talking about you're young and dumb. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I said 14 to 20. Y and D. Gotcha. You hate Reggie Jackson. And that sticks with you for your life. Oh, yeah. Can't shake it. Whatever you hate from 14 to 20, you're allowed to continue to hate. That's fair. All right. I was watching baseball. Thanks, guys. See you.