 As amended, Jeremy seconded. Cool, all in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Awesome. Okay. Thank you team. Self education and learning round table of. Yeah, any updates? I'll just say. Thank you, Michael. I finally picked it up. It's a lot heavier than I want. Like for my bedtime reading that. So I can say there's a huge thing about. Diversity equity inclusion. I am part of other nonprofit organizations and. We are all working on that issue. I think it's like part of our committee focus too. So I don't know what. We can talk about it or what we can do. We are already doing right. But ours is like more social justice and economic justice. So I don't know if we should talk about the. EI more or can we do anything about it? Because there are lots of grants available for that issue too. So if we come up. Some kind of. I don't know of project or something. Yeah, that's like the implementation of the, after we come up with the equity plan, you think there'll be more grant opportunities for doing that? Yeah, yeah. I'll just. Grant opportunities are almost narrow for us unless we, you know, we find places that will support. Government government agencies. I mean, this is what we've been running into. As I've been doing the research, trying to get. Money to help us. Fulfill our obligation to create a discourse. So I think we should not count on grants. Unless we. I mean. Sorry, Michael, when I say. Go ahead, Michael. Okay, then we'll go back to Ellen. Okay. So should we know we should not count on grants. Unless we find a fiscal agent who is willing to be the, the pass through for us. And that would be a good idea. Yeah. And that would be a good idea. And not a nonprofit that would, that would do that. And that might be the solution to a lot of problems. If we're, if we're trying to, you know, run programs that are going to cost some costs some money. And, you know, there may be somebody out there who's. Interested in that. Maybe some organizations interested in that. Yeah. So it's a good point. I agree with you. Yeah. I think it's a good point to find money. When I say there are grant opportunity opportunities. I mean that if we advise. Something. To do in our. Community. That people or organization can find grants easily because it's kind of. It's a hot topic right now. Jeremy. Yeah, I would just add to that. I think it's well, I think it's outside of my understanding of our work. To be a fundraising body. I think our, our role seems to be more about. Putting pressure on the city government. To lean into social economic racial justice issues. And also be a convener. Folks in the community around these issues as they interface with city government. So I think. I think I'm just agreeing with you all in that respect, like. Our, our leverage, our, our muscle is in that area. And I know we're doing some fundraising. Out of necessity for creative discourse. But that. That feels like a larger discussion for us to have if we want to go. Even further down that route. So. Thanks. Just to bring us back up like, yeah, is, are there other things happening in your lives or in the state house or in the city? Just around social economic racial justice that anyone wants to share. We should know about. I can share that there's quite a, there's quite a bit of. Work happening on. On this at the, the medical, the UVM medical center. That I've been participating in. Had a really great. First of three trainings last week. That had a great turnout. I think. Nearly 150 employees came out for a pretty interactive session. Kind of a racial justice learning. So I think our organization is taking it very seriously. There's a lot of work to do. And so I think that. Seems like a lot of people are really interested in hungry for that kind of work. So it. Encouragingly, it's, I think it's serious and it's happening. At the medical center. Thanks. Lauren. Sorry about the piano in the background. Great. Hi. I was just going to share. I think I've shared before, like through my work, we're working with a group called the center for whole communities and. Just get a stream of resources and I'm putting in the chat. A little YouTube video. It's like 12 minutes long, but it's. Something like how to stop worrying how I stopped worrying and started love talk. Started to love talking about race. And it's just like. The. Message is essentially, you know, for. For most things in life, if we make mistakes, we're like, I'm only human. Like I'll learn from it. I'll go on and like, if we're talking about. Like racial issues and we screw up, it's like. Somehow like an implication of our entire like being, and we put too much pressure on it and like we need to. But he does it in a engaging and. I thought so. A good way of thinking about that. So I found it. Defending is interested. I found it helpful to watch. Michael. Could you send the link to that? Yeah. Yeah. And email. Yeah, I put it in the chat, but I'd be happy to email it around to this group too. Cool. Thanks team. Cause you're tight Cameron. Um, maybe. Yeah. Move into a report back from other related city committees. So Michael, we've been sharing about what's going on with the police. What's been happening with the police review committee. Well, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what's going on with the police review committee. I don't know what's going on with the police review committee. I don't know what's going on with the police report. Um, the, there have been a number of conversations with creative discourse. And I think, um, the, the, the first one, which will be. Well, um, I guess the one that they're working on now with the BIPOC population. Um, So far as I know, the, uh, CD folks are planning to use some version of this, of some or all of the seven questions that we sent to them. For interview. I haven't seen the final draft of what those questions will be, but they did agree to, um, to, to use the, the recommendations for questions that we sent members of our committee sent that that committee sent. Um, What else? Um, it looks like it's going to be a good, a good cooperation between, uh, a CD and both of our committees. Um, uh, that they're willing to, they're willing to sort of give us a lot of information and they'll devote about half of their meeting with the BIPOC population to issues about police and half to some of the other issues that, um, whatever it is that they've written up for, for, uh, this committee's concerns. Lauren, I'll, you know, if there's anything else you need to add to that, I think. I'm honestly encouraged that that's happening. I think that's such a big conversation in our community. Um, and I'm glad that, you know, some of this meeting that they're helping us with. Can be dedicated to that. Um, you know, we. Here at the city, we hear from the same few folks. Meetings and it'll just be nice to get some diversity in, in thought and, um, you know, I'm looking forward to learning from that. I will say one of the things that, um, the police committee was discussing when we were having our own conversations about, um, an advisory board and how do we get voices? Um, one of the things that Jack McCull and I, um, emphasize is that we know that when you, when you start conversations like this, it's easy to get the complaints. It's more difficult to get people to come out to say what they think is going is going right or going well. Um, and, um, and so we were trying to figure out a way to be sure that, um, it just doesn't become a pile on, um, that, that we really get to hear voices across the spectrum, uh, in the city, because we know that there are people who are not unhappy with, um, with police and who are not unhappy with, with some of the other institutions, but, um, it's not going to be okay if it was a pile on, like if it needs to be a pile on, it needs to be a pile on. Like we don't know what we don't know. I just, I just want it to be said that, you know, no one is, no one in our camp is, is afraid of that. Or, um, if that's what it has to be, and that's what it truly is. Well, I mean, I, I, I agree that it's important to get those voices out, but I think that there's the danger of, um, there's the danger of being on track of the folks who are not unhappy. Um, and I think we have to be just careful to be sure that they, they get it. They get a voice as well. That's all. Jeremy. Yeah, I'm curious, Michael and Lauren. Um, I know the, the Montpelier Roxbury school board. Um, I, I'm wondering if you have anything to say on that? Um, but I'm looking at the commission to look into the SRO, and they recently released their recommendations and their report. Um, I only caught kind of peripherally what, what came out of that. Um, and I'm wondering if your police review committee is connected with that group and. Using their report as information because it sounds like a, a lot of good work was done on that. That group is kind of rolling out the work as we identified a whole bunch of issues and are doing both like the outreach and research around what current practices are, what like some definition of best practices might be, where there's gaps, where there's concerns that are being raised by the community and for SRO as a specific issue, the group has decided and Michael jump in but to basically take that report as the baseline and we'll look at it ourselves and get it into a format and make sure that it makes sense to us but use that as the baseline. So the kind of format that we're using to pull together the report and recommendations, that group has agreed to kind of provide the first draft of that. So they're looking to be really take advantage of all that work that did go into that but then we'll figure out how that fits into the broader recommendations of that group. Great, thanks for sharing. Any other questions or updates? I can also just share that I met with Montpelier live about doing the small business contributions or to support the stipends for participants and essentially that they do not have a line item for that and so they can do, like they can ask, they're gonna send out like specific requests to local businesses, like to the co-op in particular and they thought he thought would be a good place to ask for doing this type of work but also shared that they had just hired kind of like just like what you were saying, Pelin, everyone's kind of doing this work and they just hired Abundant Sun which is a group that did not apply for the RFP with us but they are a consultant to do kind of a work plan for diversity, equity and inclusion, like developmental work and audit specifically around Montpelier alive's work. So like the kind of in the more commerce section around policies and procedures and community engagement and programs. So as part of their RFP, I'm not sure if that's even what it is but like their work plan, they're not gonna be doing like focus groups, there's less overlap from the SRO work but they are gonna be doing like interviews or like leadership round tables for like Montpelier live's board and staff. So I don't think there's a huge amount of overlap. I shared the work plan with Creative Discourse and they're like, oh yeah, we know that sounds great but they're just also trying to be mindful of their time. So they asked for me to reach out to Abundant Sun and just to share more about the work that Sejak is doing just to make sure that kind of we're all on the same page and we have like a small population and the kind of three very similar projects going and so just wanting to make sure that we're not crossing wires. Cause I just like didn't even know that it was happening until it's now already started. So any questions about that? Cool. All right, now of course I've lost my agenda in all these emails. Come on, because Lauren had just forwarded it. Great. Cameron? Sorry, I was just letting you know where you were at in your agenda. Oh, thank you. Creative Discourse Work Plan updates. So it's essentially that they are starting moving with having the meetings. So I don't know, Cameron, I feel like you've been point on all of them to date. So yes, if there's any, you know, any updates there? Anything you want to share about organizing them? Yeah. Well, so my, the best laid plans of my cement, right? I don't know about some stuff. So update, I have scheduled all four meetings that they've asked us the city to do. One with staff, one with police and fire staff and then two individual meetings with our two staff that identify as black. So I had told you I was gonna randomly assign folks. That didn't work. There was just not enough people available. A lot of our folks are shift workers and it's just while we're paying overtime for this, it just wasn't feasible. So with the police and fire, we are just doing a buckshot approach where I invited every single one of them. And I'm hoping that half of them show up, right? So we'll see. The staff one was easier because they, there's less shift work there. So that was as random as possible, cutting out leadership, but making sure there were folks who deal with financial decisions like the creative discourse asked. And then the individual meetings have just been set up with them as individuals. So all of those are happening soon. The first one is on the 22nd, one on the 8th of March, and then the final two are on the 10th of March. So we're moving through it. I'm very excited. Staff seems interested. I haven't had any pushback. I didn't anticipate any, but you never know. So people seem really interested about participating. So I'm very glad that that was scheduled. So good to go. Go Cameron, go. Yeah. Thanks Cameron. And then the other two meetings that, so they had kind of offered just to review real quick, they offered, they wanted to do kind of the city staff, community organization leaders and BIPOC residents, kind of as a first wave to then be like, okay, once we have these focus groups, then we're going to do the survey, we're going to refine our questions and like make sure that the groups that we had planned for for the second round are still the right groups to have, if they need to like combine them or, I've got an email today, something like, why are you doing a young people group and not an elderly Montpelier rights group? It's like, make sure that we're doing, we're having the right focus groups for that kind of second wave. So for organizing the next two, so the times that we kind of thrown out there were for the community organization leaders, March 8th from 430 to 530. And then for BIPOC residents, Saturday, March 13th, and again, kind of as Michael was saying, that's the one's going to be the combination of the SRO1 and the other one. So it's going to be two hours and then it'll be either like 10 to noon or noon to two, depending on when works better for folks. What's the date of that again? Yep, Saturday, March 13th. Thank you. And so they, the kind of, like we just met on Monday and kind of made up the final plan for what this outreach is going to look like, you know, I'm sure you saw, there's a Google form for folks to fill out where they're asking folks, not just for their email and contact information to be able to get the zoom link to be able to participate, but just to get a little bit more like information about who these people, like who they are to make sure that they're like intersectional meetings, even like within the BIPOC meeting or within the, you know, the community organization leaders meeting and things like that. And so again, they're like kind of working backwards from being like, okay, here's a time that we know works for like one or two people who are like leaders in these communities. And then like everyone else who can come is people who can come and we just have to like invite everyone. And then, but yeah, so similar to kind of what Cameron's saying rather than like building the group of people and then saying, okay, like when works for you of being like, okay, we've got a couple of people, now let's invite everyone and see, see if we can get folks to show up. So both of these, we kind of have a due date of like a week before so that we can then like send out the zoom link and like make sure people actually have it on their calendars, you know, beforehand. And that's for two reasons, one is to make sure that, you know, to like check in with those kind of like brokers or like liaisons to make sure there's not like, oh, if you invite this person then these people aren't gonna speak. You know, if there's like some weird tensions that we would need to make sure that they know about as well as just numbers, you know, if we have, you know, 50 people sign up, we like, do we want to have it? We can't really have 50 people on a zoom call and have it be a productive conversation. So I'm just wanting to keep the numbers manageable to, you know, probably like under 15 or so. So kind of inviting a cross-section of folks from there. So I do have a question that I tend to ask them. They're calling me to figure out how to get money like the stipend money from the city. So I do have a meeting with them later and I wanted to ask what happens if more than, y'all have enough money if your grants allow you to use this money for stipends for a hundred people if with your $50 stipend that you voted on last time, what happens if more people show up? Like the city doesn't have any money, what do we do? Right? So I don't like deny people because that seems counterproductive but that's my biggest question going into this is we've offered this sort of stipend to participate, what happens if we can't produce that? So maybe pause on the fundraising part of that but more of just like the numbers cap it, right? Of like, right, so we've got these like, you know, five meetings where we're paying participants for participation, right? So these staff were not and want to kind of keep them capped at like a manageable number for zoom. And so they've like both me and creative disperse folks have been like very hesitant to be like, exactly what is that number? Cause like, well, we'll ask, you know, folks what they think too but so if it's those five groups with like 20 people then that is a hundred people so I think five, yeah, five groups with 20 people each. So I'm not feeling super anxious about it but let's talk more about the funding too. Yeah. Pelin what were you gonna say? Sorry to dive in. I would say if we have hundred people we can tell other people who want to come we hit the numbers from now on it will be voluntary based. So maybe they wanna do it anyway, right? Without money. So maybe we can see that. And two people can just show up to the meetings too, right? So they have to like fill out the form and then they'll get sent the zoom invitation link like if they're like invited to come to the meeting too. Yeah, so I'm hoping like I don't, I'm hoping there won't be a huge extra number of people showing up. Although obviously that could always happen. Thank you. So I'm just talking a lot here again. But yeah, so I just, you know, sent out that email with the link to our newsletter list. I was thinking it would be great if we could maybe just spend like a five, 10 minutes right now just forwarding this, that email or you know, drafting your own email and sending it out to community service organization leaders in town who we wanna make sure we can invite. BIPOC residents we wanna invite, you know, people in our networks. So does that make sense to do right now or do folks wanna do that after the call? Michael, yeah. Now I'm getting confused about the process because I sent a whole list of names to Kisha. And I don't know what she's doing with that. So am I supposed to contact them or is she already contacted them? The list of names that are like the leaders in these different communities. Yeah. Well, there were several. I mean, I used our chart of the different groups and I filled in names for each one of those or as many as I could think of and sent those. Well, first I sent them to Cameron, then I sent it to Kisha because that's what we decided was good. So now you want me to send it to them. I mean, who has done the contacting and is it up to us to do it or is CD doing it? These are kind of the like the like, what am I trying to, like the cultural leaders are like leaders in these different communities, right? And so the idea is to like make sure that this time works for them and then to have them, you know, reach out to their communities as well, right? Because what we're trying to avoid is we don't wanna have a spreadsheet of like all of the BIPOC leaders in or BIPOC residents in Montpelier and their cell phone numbers and like all the other ways of how they identify and things like that, right? And so by doing this, you know, Google form to have people fill out, we don't, we're not holding that. That list is then going to create a discourse but that we can still like do that, you know, individual recruitment. So not relying on these partners. So I think it's both is what I'm trying to say. So I think Keisha reached out to, I think the people that she knew on this list, you know, to ask them to, you know, to participate in this. But I think, you know, it's, we're in charge of the recruitment essentially. I feel like I'm not answering your question, Michael. You're looking very confused. I am. I'm like, yes, and yes, both. Oh, all right. And so just as a quick review for these two meetings, that we've got coming up. So, you know, we've, for community organization leaders, you got Joan Javier Duvall and Sue Minter, but like also we definitely should be inviting like the Montpelier, you know, a senior center and another way and, you know, like there's so many other, you know, organizations to, you know, to invite there. I'll send it to the senior center's advisory board. I think that would be more appropriate than staff. Oh, great. I can give a quick update. I have emails out to some of the contact folks, leaders connected to youth organizations. That was before I knew about this form. So they don't have a link to the form. But if I don't, I just sent these emails out a few days ago. So if I don't hear back from them, I can follow up and circle back with the form. I contacted folks at outright Vermont, the team basement center, teacher of Montpelier High works with the racial justice group there, and then our kind of youth leader at the Unitarian Church of Montpelier. So I think there's more folks to contact, but that was my first wave of like solid leads that I had. It sounds like... Great list. Sounds like that group is in the next wave. So what do you think the timeline would that be, April? Let me check the work plan real quick. I'm not remembering this, but I think still, like, yeah, later March. So yeah, have that quick turnaround. Anyone else wanna share anyone else that they're gonna be waking up to or recognizing that we are being recorded? So probably more of these organizational leaders, community liaisons folks, yeah. I had reached out to a bunch of LGBTQ organizations and I just didn't know if that was still on the queue. One of them had reached back out to me yesterday being like, where is this thing that you said? When is it happening? Yeah, so that is still on the docket for the second round, right? Or no? Yes. Then I will patiently wait. Thank you. Okay, and then Cameron, I think I had on the calendar, yeah, of having you come on March 1st to the meeting with, my next meeting with creative discourses and after the first couple of rounds of ones, if you're meeting with them anyway, would you still wanna, I was just gonna invite you to come to the March 1st to check in as well as with anyone else who wants to come? Yeah, that would be great. Just forward it to me, if I have nothing, if there's nothing scheduled, I will be there. During that time, yeah. Any times as we need to, no worries. Except that it doesn't seem to be on my calendar, so I've gotta figure that out. What happened there? Okay, and remaining groups and potential dates. And so yeah, while you're talking to these kind of leaders of folks, if you also just, if there are like good potential dates that work for them, for Keisha and for Tabitha, they just wanted that weekends and Mondays are usually better for them. So when looking for dates or times, if they can be on weekends or Mondays, just to find potential times in those times. Cool, and then obviously, some of these meetings are happening on other days, so things happen. Okay, anything else on like work plan, recruitment, meetings coming up? Cool, fundraising, here we go, let's dive in. So I feel like I'm hearing, yeah, hearing this tension of, we're not a fundraising group. And so like how much should we be going after having fiscal sponsors and doing a lot more grant fundraising to be able to fully stipend, fully pay for this work, the full 57,000. And how much we really be focusing on the core of our work of doing this outreach and prioritizing this. Just as a quick reminder, we've gotten two or three grants now, but we've got about $5,700 in the bank. So that we, I think my original plan was spending the $5,000 for creative discourses, for paying for their time to be able to do this work, and that only from our individual fundraising of doing the outreach to members of our community to be able to pay for this stipend. So right now that's $700, $718, which would pay for basically one focus group of 14 people. And so we would either need to really kick up our individual fundraising here or circle back to those funders to make sure that we can spend those on this stipend. And then so just wanting to have that conversation, making sure the $50 sounds right, making sure we wanna prioritize paying, using this grant funding to pay for stipends rather than paying for the consultants. And then if we wanna do more fundraising from individuals or more fundraising from grants, or just wanting to open up that conversation. Yeah, Jeremy? As far as creative discourses contract, are they, what work have we committed to paying them for and how long does that get us? Where does that take us? I believe that's just for this first phase, this first work plan, which is the outreach, the focus groups and the survey. And I believe the summary and the presentation of the summary to see back into city council. And I believe that 10,000, 12,000, I'm trying to point that number out of there. Can't remember. 10,000. 10,000. And so that's what we've got covered from the city council. When, I'm sorry if this is all available information in the work plan that I don't have in front of me, but, and then the next phase of work, when were they anticipating starting that if money was available? After this, that, I guess, I'm not sure. Because also what we originally done this, right? It was like everything's been shifted at least six months. Yeah. Yeah, Lauren? So there's 10,000 for this fiscal year and then if voters approved the budget on 10 meeting day then 10,000 more is included in that budget that would allow us to continue some scope. And it was, there was like a menu of options and we were doing some of the things at the budget point that we had. So then there were other ways you could flesh it out further and do additional work. I mean, I'm almost thinking like to Helen's point like this first phase where we're gonna, hopefully be identifying some more kind of, like the kind of work that we need to do as a community could be easier to fundraise around. Like right now we're trying to fundraise around like process which is exciting to some of us and less so to some others. So I think that, you know, and that might help also like identify that there might be an appropriate fiscal sponsor of like an organization that's kind of doing work like that that we can do in partnership or something if it's something that the community's identified as a need. So I could almost be being able to get through this phase and then work you know, because of like identified community needs. I mean, I don't know, it's one approach to think about. I like the sound of that, Lauren. It's the kind of iterative approach based on where we are and the reality of the kind of financial situation not to like take on more work than we can handle. But once we have that assessment, as you say, then we can be really, you know, thoughtful on how we move certain things forward because we can handle them either ourselves as a committee or in partnership or go for the big fundraising that may be needed. So that sounds really like a great way to approach it to me. So what I'm hearing is for the $5,700 that we have in our bank account, use that for these first stipends with the understanding that we're gonna, once we have this equity audit in place, then we'll be able to, it'll be easier to do fundraising overall. Am I capturing that right? I agree. Sounds good to me. I also just wanna make sure that, oh, what was the point I was about to say? Shoot. Yes. Okay, all right. Pandemic rain. Yeah, it's bad, y'all. That making sure like we're reaching out to those funders, make sure that's okay. Yeah. Is there all like basically foundation checks here do whatever, right? But just making sure that's okay. I'll send those emails to me. Wrap up this call. So it'll be good. Cool. That was a way easier conversation than I was anticipating. I mean, just talking back to you, Pellin, because I feel like you brought this up, right at the top. Does that all make sense to you or does that bring up any other questions? Cool. Great. Easy peasy. Okay, recruitment. I'm just, there's something that we're keeping like, well, let's not do recruitment yet because we're working on getting these focus groups and hopefully we can use this process to find really awesome people and to just wanting to circle back on if there, who are those awesome people and to make those like, you know, concerted outreach to see if they wanna join our team in this process. Is there any age limit to be a member? Should we go like maybe reach out high school students? You know, they are doing a lot of things like similar we do. Yeah. I don't know what you think. Maybe younger people will be more interested being a part of than the like people who work and having kids and lots of responsibilities. I don't know, just wanna check if there's an age limit to be a member. No. No, okay. I don't think my daughter, she is, she knows herself. You know, she's in ninth grade and she does this thing. So maybe she can reach out her friends like older than her, something like that. Yeah, I don't promise, but I can try to find couple people from there, right? And younger ideas will be maybe good for us too. I think that's a great idea. Yeah, they're awesome. Yeah, Michael. And there's somebody at the high school. His name is Matt McClain, who I believe does a lot of work with community connections. Then he might be a person that we could talk to to see if he can identify somebody, you know, some high school students as well. I think it's okay to be exploring that angle from, you know, different ways. But I like the idea of bringing younger people into this, but that's his job is to identify students at the high school who are interested in doing work in the community, or kind of work study, or get credit for it, or community participation. Do you have his email and stuff, Michael? I've never heard of him. I didn't know this was a position. This is awesome. Yeah, I know him and I can contact him. Great. Okay. Yeah, I guess I'll just like a reminder for when we're doing this outreach, if you're like, oh yeah, that person should be part of our focus groups and we should pull into this committee. Cool. Last thing here is just other business, mostly on the webpage updates. I'll hand it over to Jeremy and pull that up. Thank you, Jeremy. Yay. Nope, and you're muted. Sorry. Classic. I will screen share the document in just a minute. So can I share something funny with you? I hope you find it funny. So in one of my other volunteer work, they said when they attend a meeting, there's a like coffee cup, since you are on mute and people, because everybody has this problem all the time. So whenever a person is mute, they just raise their cup and people, oh yeah, let me do it. So I thought it's pretty funny. It's on live. I want one so bad. Okay. So we had an existing webpage, which basically listed the committee charge as well as a call for applicants and the current membership, which was outdated. So the changes that I made in proposing, first is just a note about our scheduled meeting time with a link to the events calendar on the Montpelier website, where you can see all the upcoming meetings of any committee, et cetera. Another call out for folks to submit an application to join the committee. And then another call out to join the mailing list that Shayna has been working hard on sending out updates. And that's still, they're joining through the act now form. So that's still right. I think so. And that's, yeah, we could do that be a Google form or something like that too, but just knowing that we're not supposed to do Google. And then... Specific things. Okay. We'd have to just... Yeah. Then there, I called them together, some language from what I had, from I think something you had sent a while ago, Shayna, which was just a quick overview of our work with creative discourse. So there's just a couple of paragraphs, a link to them, folks are interested in who they are. Just a quick note about what the output of the work is in the short term. And then it gets into what was already there, the committee charge. And then with the current membership, I don't know how many, I just guessed, I think three, are there three vacant seats or is that not the right number? All right, three is fine. Okay. And then again, another call for new members to submit an application. So not a whole lot of new stuff, but updated. So curious what everyone's feeling about that. Michael. I would just make one suggestion to in the first part of the committee charge, the first paragraph down there. You have the sentence, the city council has established. I think it's the third line. I can't see it the way we are. Come up a little bit more. That's right. All right, there we are. So the third line, the city council has established. I would recommend that we just put it in 2018, the city council established so that people get a sense of, you know, that this has been going for a while and it sort of pins a date and its currency just to sort of, just get that anchor of time. Got it, great. I will do that. I think it looks great. Thank you, Jeremy. One thought would be like at the very top, like maybe like one sentence or some just brief, because it just jumps right into the schedule without, like I know you can scroll down and find out like who we are, but something, like a brief summary of the charge and then have that full charge down. Just like a welcome could be. That's a great. And then just in the list, I think, including whoever the city council rep is, which might or might not be me in a couple of weeks depending on how the election goes. Yeah, I had a question about you being added to that list and also if Cameron should be added to that list as well. And I don't know what, how to designate either of you in doing that. So yeah, I mean, you could like leave it like a city council liaison and like you could almost even leave it just like that or put a name depending on who it is. I mean, then I think about identifying Cameron is like, she's a great person to contact people who have questions or into email would be awesome. Yeah. Could I do that for you Cameron and add just city staff liaison? Yeah, of course. Okay. Those are great suggestions. Thank you. Yeah, that's great. Thanks for all the work. If you send it to me when you're done with this, I can send it to our assistant who helps with the website. Okay. Thank you. Cool. Thanks so much, Jeremy. Thank you. And thanks team. Yeah. Any other business? Like we have another hour long meeting. Boom, boom, boom. Yeah. Awesome. Don't make a motion to close. Why can't I still not remember how to do that? You can just say without further discussion. Without further discussion. See you all in a couple of weeks. And yeah, I'm going to send this time sending those emails to funders and to potential participants. Cool. All right, next meeting will be March 3rd. Thank you. And you're going to send, Shayna, you're going to send the template form letter to all of us by email. Is that it? I think I sent it in the newsletter. I think you were, I hope, I think you were on it. So that's, I mean, it's not like a template, but it's just like, I think it has all of the required information. Yeah. And I just saw that that just appeared in my mailbox. So I'll look at that. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, definitely make it your own and everything else. So, cool. Thanks all. Okay. Thanks, bye. See you all. Bye. Take care. Have a good week.