 So let's call the meeting to order start on time Well, Ruth is in New Mexico doing grandchild watching right Julie. I mean no Sheila was not feeling well, so she bagged it and sent Sergio instead And I don't know I Guess that would be appreciated. Okay, so we have David and Julie and Janine and me He is this is Megan is our guest you are our guest our last guest In your career So Welcome everybody Have you had a chance to review the May minutes if so Any corrections? I didn't see it either Okay, so art motions in approved you need Sergio, how are you? So the minutes are approved I need Good morning, so we're up to Old business Ruth and Sheila are excused right Okay, I'm ready Art made the motion for the minutes of Janine seconded. That's all we've done Okay Position update super excited Kaylee Sure, but sure back is our new clinician to counselor and she starts Monday, so super excited about that She is coming from Minnesota she has a background in Housing and hospice and working with older adults. She's licensed. She is not bilingual Um and this was a position we had Two applicants for the longest longest time But we kept saying it just takes the one right one and the one right one And she applied and we were like, oh my gosh blown away by our application and then the actual the interview went great So super excited to have her spell her name K-a-y-l-e-i-g-h is her first name And her last name is capital S-c-h-e-r-n-b-e-c-k Thank you C-k-h-e-r-n-b-e-c-k And she uh, sherry has a place here in town her partner Uh They be located that her partner has a job in Boulder. So it feels very Comfortable it feels really good. So we're excited about She starts Monday Monday. Yes. So she starts Monday and her office will be right across from um Melissa's and the timing is really good because brandy is going to be acting senior services manager as you know in my place that um So she so Kaylee will be taking on the peer counseling program And a couple of other things just to kind of clear brandy's plate a little bit To take on some of the other things Um with my position my understanding less I heard there were 17 applications. I think they have No, there's only one view. Yeah They're looking at interviewing nine it sounds like but I haven't heard that anything's been set up They've just done application review and brandy is doing that with Jeff So that is unfolding. We have our custodian the afternoon evening position is still posted We have two applicants You have interview. Are you interviewing now Friday Friday? Why be too late? Yeah, the um for a couple I should I think it's just just just one possibly we're debating on the second one. Um, and I was going to ask if you would check the Does any of the positions I will today? We just haven't had any um, Megan is also hiring Van drivers and sports officials for referring for Softball games the pay is not bad The pay is phenomenal. Yeah, what's the pay $29 an hour? Here we go. Yeah, or what? You're receiving your retirement experience I can't And then some van drivers for some of our uh trips so and hikes and things so Megan's going to be rob rotting those those things Becky Miller started she is actually a customer here and she is doing um covering our front desk for our staff meetings and on some of our trip registrations and things so Um, it's really nice to be able to welcome her and so she's now become a part of the team, which is great So that's kind of the update on staff. So I would imagine Jeff And or really will reach out to you soon About my position when they have a more firm sort of picture if you haven't heard The library director also Resigned she's headed back to the Midwest to be closer to family and her last day is next Friday Yeah, wow Jeff is going to be filling that position as well. So Let's go ahead. Wow So he's got a lot going on And next we have listed the board members signed up for lead on various goals Yeah, I think this was actually Prudence suggestion from a couple meetings ago, maybe right um because um Michelle and I talked about it and she was not here, but I will mention And we had met um for coffee and we talked about the Glacial movement from various things um And what we talked about is proposing that each person here Takes one of the 2022 goals And they would either participate. So for example um The goals to fully participate in the What we did with the ordinance change that's done, right? Um Uh to consider a name change to a pcp and leave new programs um Direct master plan and h well update and select a sub process person So one a person on the board on this advisory council would take one of those goals and Move it along and update us you can update us quarterly If something moves along quicker Then it would be an upgrade more Frequently so that there would be a responsibility for each advisory person to say Hey, let me tell you about the h well plan update process um, this is what I attended a meeting or Uh, nothing's going on with it or whatever the issue is So that was the proposal on the table and that was accepted at the time so now What we'll be asking is for a person to Pick one of the goals And be the lead so to speak on that role And the goals are uh towards they're actually in the back page of your agenda, right? Okay, so we can cross out for for So is this is this sort of in a sense? Of pretty much, you know how we we're all sort of assigned to a different um A different board as the liaison, right? Then we're coming back and we're we're Because these aren't things that we're actually doing Exactly things that somebody in the city is doing exactly. You're just a liaison to those boards and I know I'm not sure what you did to one of your One month. No, no, okay So that would be The goal. Yeah That would be the the work to be done So the food care provider And last week we had no response again even to the so we're going to have to go back to the drawing board on that So it would be really helpful to have somebody who's brandy's contact for that in the absence if she looked at you That can be Okay one goal down Well, and I think for number five it makes sense that it's used because you're already the liaison. Yep, right I'll take the rec master plan Pretty nice. I'm not a hundred percent sure um kind of What what that entails what that means and whether Is it optional? Is it going to be assigned? um Can people have some time to think about it or the rec master plan for just Signing up sign, you know assigning people to goals and and I guess I need to you know, I want to Understand what I'm signing up for. I mean like mine with food care. I know what what that involves But I but I also know that You know, some of it needs a little bit of explanation Like strengthening counseling services. I know that that's an overall goal for For us for for the senior center, but as far as the board is concerned To what degree are we involved in that what is what is it that our task is supposed to be And that's why I'd like um A little more explanation a little more sense of what I'm being assigned to or Or volunteering to take You know responsibility. Well, I'm not really sure that's a goal It was in the past minutes and I when I was putting this list together. I pulled it out I could I in all honesty. I didn't remember where it came from and what was behind it So right so I'm not sure I think we could take that off. We hired a great counselor Right, right. I I don't think that's The only thing that I could think of is that and hopefully this council Where we'll bring this as expertise is that we talked about outcomes Okay, um, and I know david you had talked about and I know susan had talked about it is that You know, we compile statistics saying, you know, 100 people were seen But what was the outcome of those 100 people being seen? So that's something that Right, so that's something that Probably is this a new person young I think it should stay on the list. Um, I'm thinking from one of That's one of the areas I'd be interested in right Uh, kind of an overall not not that we want to get involved in the day-to-day stuff at all That's not it at all but To kind of take an overall look at what the counseling program is and the services that are provided and the outcomes that you have And maybe there's nothing new that could be added But maybe there could be And you know, I'm a good believer a strong believer in tangible kinds of outcomes So I think the outcome piece is is a great point and I also think There is some funds and maybe this is what you were going to say That are going into behavioral health The city as well as regionally and um, there's probably some opportunity it looks At least what I've seen right now The funds for behavioral health seem to be really directed towards homeless You know persons experiencing homelessness teen suicide Some other categories have been you know floated up as priorities, but please Has the senior center already Submitted its budget requests So too late or can you amend because there will be more money and so Might be getting a share of the pie Well, that's a different set of pots, but yes, but that brandy is going to be a part of that that city conversation. So for the There's a lot of money out there right now And so trying to get that all sorted out and I'd also see this as an ongoing process It's not something you do once and you're done with it Looking at it over a period of time And maybe for next year's budget You'd want to take a look at the lakes of recommendations And maybe you know the more people you can get on your side to support something the better off you are All right, so that stays david Can we just kind of circle you in on that when you said you had some interest? The other area I'm interested in is the Electrification costs I don't remember nine And I'm trying to follow that pretty closely. So I guess I'm wondering could I do one and be a Vice Where's where's your heart line which one which one? It's broken down the middle Really actually there's a lot of stuff going on with electrification right now. It's just fascinating what's going on right now So I guess I'd say that's Okay, so we have you down for two One and a half one and a half. Yeah two. I wouldn't mind being welcome That's okay, and I think to janine's point I think just further refining what this means As it as it goes it goes is a really good idea. Um, so yeah I'd be interested in the name change I'm also interested in meeting and weekend programming So I can tell you with the rec center master plan Theoretically they're hiring of course of consultants. Um, but that is sitting In purchasing Um Right exactly So I'm hoping that uh, that will be moved along Um, I have a remark on that that probably should get out there Last night at the housing authority meeting I introduced this idea that we need to Um, change our procurement procedures or maybe rules because what we've had is now a series of three RFPs from the city that have had zero bits Um, and it seems to me and what happens there is that when you get zero wins It goes fun and nothing goes forward and it seems to me that it is within the rules of Of ethical procurement that if that happens you should be able to go out and begin direct recruiting, right? So I hopes it will move something but But you know right now procurement's hands are kind of tied So I'm I'm going to be following that up with oh, that's great. I'll show you and from the staff side For the rec master plan as well as for evening and weekend programs. That's really in megan's bailey work So She's also going to be um participating and Bringing information back About how that unfolds. So I think between the two of you that's great representation Yeah, who may who ultimately Makes that decision. Is it a city council? So eventually? Yeah, eventually the plan If one of the work is done and it should have pretty significant community involvement It would go to council for adoption And this is an update to the 2015 plan. So council adopted that plan And this they will be asked to update Adopt the update Is my understanding I'm too Yeah And that is true also with the age well plan um council adopted it 2016 and now it will be an update So that pretty well covers it except for item number two and since we have two board members missing Okay, I can sign up for any one, but I mean I'm willing to help out forever Well, the age well plan the first step is actually on the agenda or um Signing up for conversations. It's New business item b Or did we go off? And my hope my invitation is that all of you would participate in at least a conversation um in the past we did a conversation for all advisory board members throughout the county boulder locket was where we did it as a joint and this year As it's unfolding We're really encouraging all advisory board members to at least participate in a conversation And these are the long ones And then we have two spanish ones Planned as well. You'll see there so My hope is that all of you and my invitation is that each of you would sign up for one of them so um There's uh information in a go as well as at the bottom of your agenda and you would just call the front and do that if you would I mean It is absolutely in keeping with the commitment for the purpose of this board to participate in that plan. So We would hope you would do that Well, that's a great one for you are especially in the Spanish ones that And then we have um a caregivers group specifically for spanish speakers. Um, and then There is at this point no specific caregivers of older persons for design design design for my mom, but I suspect that's So which one do you think Are it's up to you. I mean, I mean, I'm only doing the one it just Yep, just pick one. It's the same process. So it's your whether you'd like to be present in the spanish One or the english one. I think it's whatever date and time and your comfort All right, I would like to You know, I think And if you want to tell me today, I can sign you up or you could just call the front desk when you can check your calendars We don't have dates on when they're meeting early Yeah, the spanish one is august 23rd From noon to two Here at the senior center. Okay So that'd be great art and sue I'll do 25 the august 25th great and you can don't I mean you're going as individuals. So I think So I'm just going to check my calendar And I just want to say the other opportunity and Um is boulder county air agency on aging and maybe janine was going to mention this will be doing the kosoa Survey countywide again. So that's the community assessment survey boulder adults. We've done this Every four years. I I don't know. This is probably the fourth or fifth one We will get data broken down by long months data. So, um, we'll have countywide data and then The four communities will each have their individual data, which is great So we're really saying please if you get it as a person do it What's the s of kosoa? It's the community assessment survey of holder notes And we have used The guy in holder tom Miller national research center. I think he's done some of the city customer satisfaction Surveys as well. So anyways I think it's tom miller But it's the national research center in boulder So he piloted this survey with boulder county many many years ago and many took it nationally So there he is able to look at our data and do some comparison because he's done it across the nation. So We have continued to Utilize him because that gives us good any comparison information it gives us good historical information And we also get an opportunity to ask four or five questions of our own design, which I don't think those have been determined yet cool So All right And so next to age well plan. I'm just going to say this is really in everybody. Is that okay? Yeah, it's contra So what presence in sheila had suggested, but it's okay. We're flexible So june 28th at council brandy will be there representing me your annual report has is going as an information item and The second item we have is our short term assistance we asked boulder county for 50 000 dollars for direct assistance to older adults And 2 500 for direct assistance to caregivers and that's based on what happened this last fiscal year Which we asked for 35 000 for seniors and 10 000 for caregivers And we were really just weren't using the caregiver money So we asked to roll the difference over into senior into older adult So that money is designated for people 15 above Who live in boulder county? So it's got some specificity um, we will continue with the 25 000 ask of the friends Because that allows us to serve people 55 and above and they could be You know just outside boulder county, but along my address or you know Gives us a some flexibility both a little bit geographically and a little bit age-wise and then We will be getting money from phrasier foundation out of boulder and that's going to be for eyes ears Teeth Those kinds of things and we don't know how much yet, but we'll get that money This month So I think for the june 28th meeting. It's kind of exciting. We have Good news and a good report. So if you're a watcher if you're a goer That'll be up. So I don't know if you want to say anything more about the report No, I other than It you said it's going as an informational item that can mean two things It means something at the very bottom of the packet that nobody reads or it could be a presentation Is it going to be I didn't set it up as a presentation. Okay Um Maybe some of us could some of us who get to speak at public invited to be for Would like to join us at the at the council meeting and call the council's attention to the information to the record No, you got you got tabbed last time vice president Have a chance So what what marsha what marsha is suggesting is just to be there between seven and Eight probably and and and just sign up for public invited to be heard and just say you want to call attention to the informational item in the packet, it's the annual report Right at a minimum mention the success or two that you're particularly proud of What somebody else me interested in doing that I do have commitments on qc 9s Um I'll be glad to do Okay, so the only reason I'm going is because I want to sit behind the people I sat behind last time so I can take a picture of Then reading them all in a lot of times Close attention Yeah, and I think marsha's right you can all be there you can speak or not speak but if you're there the speaker can certainly say You know, we have board members in the room Please stand, you know, there's a way to get all the attention to that that was used a lot Under the previous mayor, you know during the horde of people and say Only one or two of us are going to speak but everybody's here to support this please stand Between 7 p.m. Yeah, well, so just sign up and you can get there by say 6 45 and sign up Is there anything just one question is there anything in the report that the board feels strongly should be highlighted? So between now and june 28, why don't you email all the email every email me You know, there's something that you say gosh, this was really something fantastic We did And to you if you're going to speak you need to be there by 6 45 Public invited to be heard can go very quickly, which it did a couple weeks ago if I heard Um, or it can go really long depending on how many people sign up to speak. So Generally, it's done by eight right and sometimes by 7 30. Yeah, if you turn into a pumpkin Then get there early so you can be Come as soon as first sir And brandy will be there. Okay as well open house ideas So megan is here char is actually wasn't able to join us. She had a personal commitment with the family. So she is in california right now, but This um, it's been several years since we did an open house and megan's never done an open house. So She is here today just to get some ideas for From you all what you'd like to see what you want to do To be a part of it If you have been a part of it in the past what worked What didn't work and just spend a little bit of time a few minutes just Given some input to megan would be great I'm excited about this as soon as I started working here. It was like one of the first things I was like Wanting to do because we have so many talented People and these drop-in groups that are kind of closed behind closed doors And they just aren't out to show the artwork that they're doing The woodcarvers are incredible and the way that they're partnering like with resources by making these little birds As well as just I don't think the board knows about the birds. No, it doesn't have the birds So I mean the birds no woodcarvers are they each have their own project that they're constantly working on But um, one of them, I think it was Kurt Made this little bird just a tiny little wooden bird solid wood real simple shape not a lot of detail at all Just like the general outline the general shape of the bird no feathers or anything Some of the things that they do are really detailed And char noticed that her husband who works at woodleys has all these scrap pieces of wood So now they just swing by woodleys and pick up all these free little pieces of wood And make these sanded down Sorry bird shapes. They're like worry birds So if we have people in with resources that have either been evicted or their experience Homelessness or they're just having a really crummy day We just have birds all over the office. You can just give someone to keep in their pocket and sort of worry on So that's just a nice Yeah, they just like lead them really quickly. It's not a lot of work for any of the woodworkers, but um So that's one just really lovely Cross promotional thing or just thing that we're doing throughout the senior center that people don't know about So there's that that sort of a piece but also You know, some of the woodworkers that we have are like making jewelry with like little tiny pieces of wood And they're sanded down with like lilac wood or there's other people that are making bigger like You know something that would be a wall hanging or they're just really talented little gnomes versus Walking sticks that really just different and I being ignorant to this Just didn't know the different types of wood carving that there is the different types of woods are popular And then they for one would be a really neat Booth to have as an outlet to say this is what we're doing No matter what your experience level is you can come in and try this they've got extra wood They've got some of the tools of tools can tend to be really expensive um Donna clements studio time everybody's working on their own project It's not like one class that donna's teaching everybody's doing their own thing and then donna kind of comes by and Helps with certain techniques And if they're trying to make it look like a picture like out of a magazine that they're working on Or a picture of their son with this dog Um donna's just there to like sort of help and that's a while these things. That's all well and water It's um, yeah, that's all painting pretty much different mediums, but That's another one that people just don't realize not only would it be promoting donna's class because she's so talented But it's also just I wonder if the woodcarvers have ever seen what talented people we have because it's not like We have those paintings up on the wall in the art room. We just Everybody brings their things home and works on them and brings them back and then they all talk together um Not to mention even like current events when we were doing zoom I got to sit in on both current events in the open forum with your different sort of political conversations I'm just how knowledgeable people who are here I don't know what they did in the former life, but they're Whether they're conservative or liberal or whatever just this really good smart conversation that happens um, so yeah, so if we Showcase all of these things. Oh my gosh. Alma with her porcelain art too So a lot of it would be like art to have a booth and that kind of thing, but I just think that um Since the pandemic we've had so many people starting to come to the senior center who haven't been here before We got a lot of the people on the trip registration We just had people sort of reaching out that they've been isolated for so long and that they Are looking for something for their parents even to to come um Just yeah, what all happens here and sitting down and doing a get acquainted To explain all of the things that happens here takes hours So it would just be nice to sort of showcase it rather than just give it looks Um, when is the open? That's what we're talking about. So we're gonna do it in the fall. Okay. Um Shar and I will plan it, but um, she's out this week. So we're both like go go going on the go right now Um, right now. I'm just adding all of my presenters and that kind of thing But we were thinking a couple of things One is like do we do it closer to like Thanksgiving when there's other people in town and families? Or is that too crazy the time of year do we want to pull it back and use September or October? Um, just get your opinions on it. What's been done before I like the idea of doing it like afternoon and in the evening so the people who work can be a part of it Um, or even if they if there's somebody who's considering going that could bring like a caregiver or somebody that would go with them Just to to look at it and have conversations together Um, but we're open we're open for ideas. I think so. I know Janine's been a part and soon That others may have some ideas. Yeah Um, a promotional idea because you were talking about sort of that, you know, the the little birds and maybe Miniature paintings or something like that. There is a new trend opening up There's only one that I know about and I'll have to get the address of it To me because it's not in my head, but there's a thing called little free galleries now That's like a little free library and it'd be great to put a Tag on something like a little bird That said courtesy of the senior senator such and such and maybe when you know a date our open house is date and put those in the little free gallery and Spread the word out that way spread the word out that way because they're getting kind of a lot of attention, you know Sort and an open house. That's a perfect thing to put in next door Exactly. Yeah So the the other thing, you know, we talked about the new counselor that Maybe she Could be there I think the whole staff would be there but heard to have a booth to Not to count people at the time but to talk about what services are offered. Sure. Yeah And then talk about where they can obtain services. So if I came Well, if if I came with a parent And said to the council gosh, you know, my my mother needs Some counseling, you know, she also needs Food delivery. Mm-hmm. You know across but there's there's a cross there You know that maybe it could be the counselor and some of the mlw people know the wheels people maybe Also some of I think some of your speakers, you know one of the things you mentioned Megan is that You had speakers who really were knowledgeable about this than the other and we don't really care how they vote Is that maybe we could have Big maria Tara Giannis is doing recessions Maybe team her up with someone to talk about the forums as a booth You know just like so, right So you're talking presenters versus some of the drop-in programs that we have, right? Okay. Well, yeah Yeah, so that they could and I was thinking of the pool Hall over there that maybe there could be a pool hall competition Between teams and there would be a bride Between who just like just the guys that are here Yeah, you could advertise it beforehand and say we're having you know During our open house for having this pool competition. You could win free iPad Yeah, I mean they've cheated. We're just coming in. Yeah Some, you know, maybe a worry bird maybe a painting, you know, one two and three for attending Right, right. Okay. I see booths that represent You know services not just services that we do in in terms of resource, but also You know recreational services and I love it if everybody got the go but they don't and so if each booth Had a little list of services also with the artists and the art Classes that they have Is sometimes people are intimidated to sign up because they Don't think they be like I did a a stained glass one one time and I thought this is way beyond my capability But when I got there, I was reassured that yeah, this really is something that you can do and that's something that somebody being in a booth And and showing just what was done or what was produced and Encouraging people in terms of well, of course, you can do that. Right. Also, I'd like to see Transportation be addressed to make sure that if at all possible we have Via or a van or something that goes to the different housing authority facilities and senior housing Places that we'll be able to transport People for the day to the open house and get them back because Transportation is also a big issue. It's a great idea. Yeah, and that would make sure that we get more people here we can Facilitate them as they come indoors show them where they're going and I think in previous open houses we had like food set up that people could go in and Have food available for them. So Um, I think we partnered with males on real estate. Uh-huh. I do. I do believe we did that so one of the things the board members did was Sort of take turns being at the front door and reading people and Just inquiring, you know, have you been here before and if they were never had been here before They were kind of like a tour guide if they person wanted that and just kind of you know, here's Kind of who we are. Here's a go. Here's, you know, they kind of did that little extra Sort of how you check warm welcome Where you go to check in what what do you do to make a reservation if you want to get in the class? You're here. Well, come on over here because here's where Where you would go? Here's where the restrooms are Yeah, so they got a tour too. Yeah Yeah If they want, yeah So the other thing I think is it is it do you mention, you know, not everybody gets the go So they they don't really know what we've got, right? So if they're coming in Making sure that either at every one of the booze or maybe greeting at the door We're getting out of greeting No, that you asked them if they actually received the go and if they would like to then sign up You know, put your name on your sign up sheet and we'll make sure that you get on the So my When I started working here, my confusion with the go is because it's not chronological It's done by subject wordifying things So I like the idea of having like because the gym is so big Maybe we take general interest and history and science and that's all in the gym That's where you can find those things and that's the subject that you like and have it color coded So that you can go back to the tabs and the go and say oh Yellow is where history and science is and Humanities is purple. And so humanities will be like, you know, maybe down in this hallway or something over by meals on wheels And then we have the art room, which is green have that, you know And you might want to talk to Erica about a program for the open house In the gym, you'll find right, you know, kind of a summary thing Right. The other thing, you know, the other thing we did Once is we had the Bylus dance We did not have entertainment noise a lot because people were talking at roads, but we didn't have a scheduled Something and the Bylus DMT had advanced. I think we might have had the dulcimer's do a short It was not You had to be really clear. It wasn't a performance. It was a demonstration They they were not Oh, they do they get paid? No, they're all our groups are volunteer groups. Yeah So I think you just have to craft that carefully so that it doesn't disrupt the conversation going on in the booths Um, you have to be thoughtful about that One thing is that there's also the video club. Oh, yeah some art or video might be done like the video could be done and I'll be surprised if that if the history one was finished, but right, right But yeah, they have amazing programs. I was thinking of the history one. I don't know whether that'll be finished yet, but it would be great To where in the jib where you have the history and the form to have the video club there I would also like to see I think people I'm not really sure whether people are signing up for the technology classes Or not, but at least make it make them aware Make them aware and make it easy for them to understand how easy I just spoke with someone yesterday who Didn't know how to make a meeting on google And I I said have you tried the senior center? They said well I've looked at it, but i'm kind of hesitant to go. I said hey, it's free or else it's two dollars It's either free now. It's all free like either way and they can drop in Exactly, you can drop in and get whatever specific you don't have to just Take the class you can drop in and get help. Yeah, and you can get help at home You can get help at home. So I think showcasing that that's my in the quieter area, which would be the history forum gym part because you really need To concentrate You know someone just can't run through it and say oh, you know, there's an excel class. You can learn to use google Right, you know, yeah, it just doesn't work that way with technology anymore. It's definitely a And look at your right. So yeah, and this person also said to me Well, I'm going to go home and try and tackle zoom I said download the app or to your computer that'll walk you through it But they said really I said yes, you don't have to figure it out. It's not like the old days Right, it's user-friendly, right, right. So we'd be good to To do something around that And maybe you could recruit the band rogers there I've got four actually I don't know if you've seen we have a big sandwich board. We've been put. Yeah Yes, I have seen it. But first of all some officials I'm just going to say, uh you know being Realistic there are a lot of seniors That are not on a you know, they don't have computers. They don't get into them And I don't know how difficult it would be And you know, a lot of them probably ain't out in your stock here And I think the big thing is what we could do to get them here The day of the of the open house Could really make a difference on them continuing to come But I don't know how difficult it would be to come up with a one page product or whatever of the different activities that are Even if we don't Even if we don't have to put the date and time or stuff like that But just of all the different activities that are available So that they at least have it they look at it and they can hopefully call in if they they have an interest on that You know the other thing I know that Trips, you know, we take some of these trips that are that cost some money is that You know them knowing That there is there are stipends available to them. I don't know how we get that out. I don't know Having a friend And oh you are okay. Yeah But I think that that how do you get connected art is really true And I think we need to think differently about what the front desk staff are doing So I trying to explain this is how we do registration. What is a trip lottery? How do you get a scholarship? I think there needs to be a some focus on just Getting connected getting involved from that sort of logistical place Well, I think that that you know one thing about scholarships He said it's not transparent enough And I don't know like I know in the gold there's a blurb that I can get a scholarship I don't know what that means And I don't know how to access it and also is also a How can I say this? You know If prudent applies for the scholarship does that mean that everyone who's on line You know who's who's in a physical line? I mean he is that I need a scholarship Right. There's a stigma attached. There's a stigma attached. I didn't want to use that word, but you know, how is it so that I understand the transparency of It's like giving out the chrome books. You want to make sure that it's this is available to anybody Right. It doesn't have to be tied to an income source. Exactly. So how how can we message that during the open house? Yep, so that people feel comfortable Saying Okay I need this I was going to say, you know, the front desk is busy on the phone and Doing their computer work and everything I've taken Pre-pandemic up and here and people come in, you know, and they're like this and like can I help you? And I'd be willing to step up for two hours a couple times a month and just be there to answer questions That would be really helpful. But you know, then Does the front desk know which day is more busy than other days, etc. Yes So it's something to think about. Yes, that would be great. And the front desk is pulled away often to do a quick Yeah from two to one The other thing is we could just do and build that in So to get acquainted and just talk about Folks who maybe don't want to do it get acquainted. Whatever. They just want a tour I mean, like you do brewery tours, right? You sign up you or the tours at Celestial Seasonings. I mean And the senior teaching seniors model having somebody that already likes it and is already involved in certain programs or why? Yeah, you know that the old JCC, not the new one, but the old one I mean, it was an old one. I don't think he worked at that one Before I moved here. I contacted that and they had a counselor a young guy Who we made an appointment online online um, and we met with him for like an hour And we didn't want to tour the JCC because that you know building was better because it's room But one of the things That he did was that he said this is the list of synagogues. This is the list of that This is a list of that. This is where do you need help with, you know, do you have a call? Yes, we have a career cause, you know, he had like a menu of things that he would use with us um, and it was really helpful to know what's available to know what's available and it wasn't 17 pages was a front and a back shoot Together that he created us. So it was like And he was called the concierge And I think that sometimes that's um Really helpful Right. I know I need something. I want to be here and step in the door. You've gotten that far I had a list of rec centers. I had a list of synagogues I had a list of all sorts of things how to start my electricity how to start You know all of that, right? So I knew My wish was would be hard if somebody in the Hispanic community could volunteer to be present in In the front lobby Because I know That people are far more comfortable If they see someone that looks like them if they talk to someone That speaks and understands Otherwise, they're they're very often hesitant to come in the front door And I know even doing my volunteer work how sometimes it's really important for Veronica To personally bring somebody to me and let them know That I'm going to be okay that they're going to be able to talk to me right that it's going to be able to Work out they're going to get all their questions answered and So that would be important For me to have somebody out there that Can help right not behind the glass But right in the front door You know, I was just thinking if they ever redesigned this center, they would need to redesign that area The lobby So you got some good ideas So September or October? Yeah, probably Yeah, probably September actually October is we have volunteer pursuers Right after Labor Day would be free One more This might be a good opportunity and it's probably implied and everything that's been said done so far But to collect some information about services that are not being right That's an excellent idea. Good idea kind of a mini survey of You might consistently ask is are there any things are there any services you might like to have or maybe even a little Questionary good people or something on that for you know, perfect time And we just talked about this at our staff meeting yesterday about about doing a survey. So I love that idea And you're good at that you would help craft some important questions if we did that Do you see anything glaring that we're that we need? No Yeah, I didn't know that I'm coming up empty on that in that area, but uh, I didn't know that was just stemming I'd be happy to help but uh Yeah, it was just the idea of You know that your the focus has been providing information Turn around or pull it in Right instead of just being inundated with information Do you do you know, I have an attending class this year in a while watch I have I did the genealogy class Did I I did I did well I have a complaint about that The whole thing but anyhow, um Do we do evaluations after the class we do for trips and some of the classes, but No, we have it in a while Because it could be and I'm not talking I'm talking three questions like when I go to visit my doctor every single visit Yeah, I get a five question three to five question You know things You know did my you know physician listen whatever the question is but I get three to five questions I get that from me so if I buy a box of nails I don't give my email to those people but but but they have my email of my health plan So they when I see the doctor I get a survey the next day. Um, so You know just because I mean I can tell you I took the genealogy class and the gentleman was a kind gentleman Nick Yes However, the font You know, I have very good distance vision Even me with the font I couldn't read what was on right his thing. I was like Okay, like that's like totally useless for me um And he didn't have handouts Which because I couldn't read like I can practically read that sign over there Uh, so my vision is quite good. So it was really interesting to me because people were like, what's that? You know people next to you always But you didn't feel like you had a place to be able to tell nick that you couldn't see it or right? Yeah, I mean I do something that he had said that he was going through and that was his presentation You know what I mean? It's like the basis of his presentation, right? So if I had an evaluation survey, I would have said PowerPoint this Instead of going into the website. Sure. You can't really see the website, right? So the sctc group themselves Every single class, right, but nick is with the lawnmant genealogical society It kind of does that as a side as a part of it And so that's really great feedback for us to give to sarah jane and the team about periodically We need to talk to the genealogy Society about genealogical society about doing some evaluations. So So I'm thinking of an evaluation like people who go take the technology thing Technology classes would be good to evaluate them to see whether they actually so they do all of theirs Okay, they do all this. That's great. So just kind of as a wrap up. I just want to be mindful, but um So at this point Megan and char and the team are going to run with picking a date when the building is open Start to put action put these ideas to to work The sooner Megan you have a date the better to let the board know especially if you are going to be ambassadors and be present and Kind of help with that outreach, but I think that's the question right now is Is that something you as a board want to want to commit to is being at the open house and help me with that? Thank you all very much. That'd be great. And what one final thing again Speaking more for those people again, don't read the newspaper. I don't have anything like that One of the things that we get monthly is our Is our utility bills As far as putting that on there for the seniors to come down On the city line, right? So this would be something you really want to be talking to eric and now about getting it on the The other the other piece that you know Can happen Megan is folks who are already very well acquainted with us will come And if it's if there we have talked to erica about a bring a friend campaign Oh, I love that. Yeah, and so you might want to ask if this is an opportunity to sort of do that and again Sort of to prove this idea about what's a prize for that Yeah, we you know you put a put your name in a hat and draw for something and the friends would Be the group that would sponsor that prize because the city Can't sponsor that prize. So So Anyways, there's ways to make that work Like door prizes. Yeah Those are fun things people love that kind of art would it help with the Hispanic community to try outreaches through the church You know trying to find some way to connect could we contact perhaps churches that If they would make an announcement I You know the city line is already available in Spanish. So That's a good way to reach out. I wonder if we could tap call me Ramirez Who from the city whether she has any ideas have to reach I even think that Veronica and apps melissa Yeah, yeah Who we ask a lot of things Um, Megan if if you would contact me As the as the date and the needs get closer I'm working on several citywide initiatives that aren't directly council stuff But one of them is a collective impact program on intercity transit And we're working on demonstrations this year and next year And including I'm working with the director of via via. Sorry. I always say it wrong. Yeah So I don't know whether You know the senior center has enough stroke with via or not But that might be another way in And the other thing if you're talking about a survey from visitors And also I'm part of the The collective the the beneficial electrification community in the city of longmont And a really useful thing to know Would would be Are you worried about the age of the heating system in your home? You know and and are you worried about when how you're going to afford the upgrades and Do you have air conditioning in your home because it's going to be getting more and more important So And that group is already planning to That there was a large segment of the community That we're just going to have to find money to buy their next upgrade because there's no way That certain people are going to Going to afford a heat pump upgrade To their you know to replace their furnace and Yet we don't want them to replace a furnace with another gas furnace if we can help them because that's another 15 years So That's going to be a really important ongoing class for you To auger frenzy jaffy. Yeah. Yeah, all of the city improvements. We have one quarterly. Yeah How do we get on the leash to get supplemented? I Well, we don't have the list So we're done with open house because we have other stuff to come on. I asked a unrelated question Get away with it. Um What park um I've seen statistics, uh over the years where You assume that older folks in general like us work are below income or below average as far as income is concerned That's not all the case generally In many communities older people are above the community average as far as income is concerned To go to the point of cost Do we know You know are the people we serve are they generally do we have a high proportion of those people in poverty? Or do we are above average or So we know the statistics for the county and for the city in terms of Basic income basic education levels age that kind of thing Do we know that for the people who currently come to the senior center? No, because we don't ask that. Okay. The only the only place we ask income is if Uh There are folks who are coming in for resources and they are generally low income and generally Proving eligibility for services. So but to come here You we don't ask demographic data. It's it's been interesting and and um There used to be a membership years and years and years and years ago And the board at that time with my request my recommendation was to do away with membership because It felt elitist and there were people then who felt like Um or to pay my taxes. Why am I why do I have to join this place to benefit from it? And so we moved the membership as an optional thing to the friends of the senior center And no membership at the senior center was required that that was the point Where you could collect that demographic data that it felt elitist and intrusive For at that time and we did away with it because it was keeping people from coming I totally respect that. I think that's one of the things that we need to highlight in that video production club Well, they do it and again acquainted. They do it at the front desk people always say do I have to pay membership fee And the front desk, you know, regularly leads with that. There is no membership fee You pay for the activity and it has a free fee and if it doesn't It's it's it's drop it. It's free and The computer tech programs have all gone free. There are no more charges for the computer tech programs that's something we look at for trips and for programs is trying to have a Range so that everybody's available and we're not doing anything that's going somebody from doing something All right. Well, thank you. Sorry to interrupt. No, it's a great question. And um, when we stopped doing the membership fee The city finance director was not very happy with me. Well It's enough contingencies built into the budget that Because it was it was uh easy um Revenue right and and but I'm telling you we printed Those stupid cards. I mean it was just gross. I couldn't stand any part. I just know there's nothing I liked about it, but Contrary look at what the friends at the senior center have now, right? You know two and a half million dollars And that's and that's all A voluntary thing, you know, it doesn't have anything to do with getting To participate so Works out pretty well. I think we should make a motion that this should be here on the, uh Open house day and do tennis table tennis tournaments Because she likes table tennis Any other old business? I think you are free to leave if that's what you're facing Any questions or comments if you guys want to reach out I think it's I think it's important to stay connected with brandy give her updates But as soon as you lock a date Discussion with the tv production I think everything is going to be here. So I I did not close the loop with her. It's my July Well, so, um, so let me Let me just say The tv production club. I think I said this last month very excited to run with the documentary kary had a trip to Czechoslovakia and Somewhere else. So she's out of the country Um, so let me get back with her and try and line her up for either july or Or august and then get that and I I don't know I lost I totally lost track of that So that one somebody's thinking about Thinking about all the things that I have three days to finish. So, you know, it's it's there. I'm going to, um If they're in the middle of the documentary for the open house, they could still put Trailers right trailers. Yeah, that's a great idea And we did the h12 conversation July meeting so this Historically the boards both the friends and the advisory board have taken a month off in the summer We were often closed That first Wednesday in july with building closure. We are not this year because uh, that's july six um, it's a six So you don't need to but I'm just throwing it out there just I will be gone that week. I'll be gone too First week of july It's looking like Okay, can I make a motion that we Resume our meetings in august and skip the july meeting second Julie I have a question about that even in our reports Our quarterly reports come up in july Uh in august i'm going to be gone Uh the first week in august so if I can Give my um A a c report Next well, no, this is june. This is july by july so I'll uh Well, I'll work something out. I'll probably do a written report And and All right And maybe we should Yeah, maybe we should change quarterly reports and eliminate july and make it August or june one or the other Well, and we you added unless an item needs more immediate attention So I think it gives you the freedom to do it in august if you want. Yeah. Yeah, let's Be written around that yeah, so changing the reports to august It just makes more sense because historically we can't get a call in in july Okay, can I make this that you have january april august october december Eliminate the january one because you have a december one It's correct. Good. So we'll do it april august october december. Thank you Okay, then regular business I already gave you the report. You gave me the report. Okay What to city council needs on this? Wow, okay And I've been trying to save it all up for this um Let's see first of all Oh my housing authority and we had a really interesting work session of the council Last night, so it wasn't a formal council meeting and no motions could be enacted or anything like that But we really talked about affordable and attainable housing policy and a lot of stuff that is going to I hope need to increase density in in the infill parts of the city because we're running out of land and it is a Social equity thing that we all care about in terms of allowing people who are our frontline workers like grocery stores Even school teachers. There's a huge amount of data about how much better it is for students with their teacher lives in the same town as they do um, so, you know, we're trying to enable the lower income workers to Well jobs in long months move back into long months This is probably not going to affect the historic neighborhoods Because we have so many special ordinances about the historic cruise of preservation but In our peripheral neighborhoods, there is So much land so much street parking, you know, all the stuff that is really a matter of dispute in the older neighborhoods Just there's a lot of waste in the periphery of the city. And so we're hoping to Change our land use and building code ordinances to sort of take up the waste and that should make it more affordable for people to live in long months I think we need we didn't discuss the demographics of it um, but you know, we have we have people who are going to be wanting to downsize For example, my neighbors who are, you know, new empty nesters And their their house is probably twice the size of mine. I live in a house that I downsized into It's teensy And they can afford to downsize because their new house would cost as much as their old house Um, you know, so we're trying to fix stuff like that that does apply to seniors a big part of that is Transit, you know, it's it's uh, if is Via is probably the best thing about the rtd service in long lines And I'm certainly going to eliminate that I'm working with As I said before collective impact team through the economic development partners um To try to find ways to improve interest city transit without competing with Without violating the rtd charter Which means that the city can't Tax anyone to do it and the city can't administer Whatever the transit is so it has to be something like brujap that is Private Right now brujap is is a for-profit Entity, but it could be a non-profit entity and so for example the vice president of of Uh front-range community college, which is the president the president of the of the Longmont campus Wants to be a subscriber when this thing happens and One of the consequences of that would be You know, there's I think there's there's probably a gap of people who Maybe want to drive less But are not You know in the in the via kind of range of meeting differently able to transit and you know doorstep to doorstep Transit and I think it would be big improvement in the city for that And we just dust You know in the front part of the meeting At least two things That that probably could be done as part of that impact group If the board is interested in working with us or maybe I shouldn't be taking it to the friends One is As a as a demonstration just you know to see how important it would be to to older adults in the city We could probably arrange pickup and delivery to The senior center open house Or to other important events held at the senior center So I would like to find out if there's any interest in in doing that And then That's the other the other one Is the farmers market We're already looking at demonstrations From neighborhoods Like Kensington that are in the um The census tract of lower income or you know certain demographics To take people to the farmers market because They're in you know, they're in a food desert probably and especially is hard to buy high quality High quality fresh foods and vegetables and even meats, but you can use Snap and not relevant to older adults, but wick Um Benefits and you get a two for one deal at this at the senior center. So getting there is a problem and So I wanted to bring up the idea of whether the I don't think the board can because that would be city funding But maybe the friends could Help fund some of these demonstrations because I'm gonna you know when you start Paying a bus service whether it's via or whether it's brew hop because this you know use brew hop from the buses for a lot of other things um You have to pay their expenses because they just don't have enough margin in their business to donate it if the activity was About the senior center Then you would go through brandy and she would work out the funding Request to the friends. So if it was transportation for the open house Then brandy would just go to the friends and talk about paying for that. That would be an appropriate thing Transportation the farmers market or some of those others. No, but certainly For the the senior center. Yeah, that's a totally appropriate. Okay, wonderful um, is it you know It I think it would be Uh a game changer in terms of quality of life In long mod if if that sort of targeted transit work We're available Yeah, I know we lose clients coming here because they can they have to give up their car for one reason or another And we no longer see them here And if you haven't the parking lot is a mile long You know the other thing I wondered continuance We hear more and more about our tv And their lack of funds and their lack of services. Where are we going to be here in long mod? If we don't start looking at other alternatives to relying on our tv Which has already cut So many routes that You know Their routes are going to be dependent upon their funds and long term. Do we need to Not just for the senior center or the farmers market, but for in general For our citizens to be looking at Alternative to cars and good transportation systems. I agree Obviously, you know volunteering time for it and and bringing it up every every every point in the city I touch so Yeah, I'm I'm glad that there's an appropriate use for the senior center Um, I I would be looking forward to having a contact with the friends because I don't right now And that's my fault. I haven't made any effort to develop it. But um, now's the time I think So and Susan and brandy will be your conduits to the friends So brandy couldn't be here today, but that's Susan sits on there as an advisory board So wonderful. Okay. Well, then I do have a contact as I just didn't know it's rgd reason to drive Well, that's right because they you know, they shrunk long months service down and They optimize their service to minimize the number of buses and drivers that are required Which means they end up with this long route that loops around the city and it doesn't go where you need It doesn't go where you need it to go. So you still got blocks to walk Once you get as close as the bus will take you and if you are a if you are a senior in particular It's a marathon to spend 45 minutes on a jouncy jiggly Right, they're not modernized. They're too big. I mean this I mean the whole thing is And and I understand that the taxpayers are paying for it. What can I say? I can say for 40 years RTD has not served long long well So we should to drive and honestly honestly, I believe With enough immunity support if we could put I I think there's a loophole, which is if a group puts forth an rf pay To rtd that says We want this service. What will it cost us? And they come back with a no bid Then that gives us a get out of jail free card I'm not sure of the legalities of this yet, you know, but I have it through the city transit that it is There's at least a narrow winding legal route to because what what we should be doing with them Is is to just have the intro city touchpoints for the bus right the bus rapid transit Okay, that and that will be what they do for long month or the other thing they do for a long month is to get out of the way and let us The community put together something that's better for the community Grumps that people need to yes like like to the hospital Right through the grocery store the grocery store more than twice a day. Yes And not taking up half your day to get there well, you know, I think I hate to bring this up, but I know that the mayor is the point person and the lead On getting rtd to work And has she has the mayor Have any of these ideas been run past the mayor because that's her baby the mayor is on the collective impact group rife me um And And doing her part, you know, she she's the one who brought in The via people to the collective impact group she brought in brujap And they are both very dedicated to this because they would like to expand their businesses Maybe find subsidies for the electrification of their offerings Because both of them understand that diesel is not the way to go, you know, so I think everybody Involves concerns and win is just going to be a narrow and winding path As you look at the collective impact and i'm just let it go at this but We are getting the feedback back from the lej properties and there is definitely some interest from The properties around some regular trips And you may or may not be a walmart fan but walmart is a good destination because it has groceries Pharmacy it has a breadth of things So that could be another area for that collective impact to take a look at not just the LHA properties, but all the senior properties. Yeah, right at that. Yeah, and you know until the movement has gotten to the point where um, we can go to primary employers and say Here's your subscription fee, right? What routes do you need to have that negotiation? Which is how it will turn from and a collective impact into a non-profit that isn't going concerned Um, you know until then we're going to be scrabbling for money But that's like a lot of bolder people, you know, I have a friend who works for n call and she gets a pass Free We'll see along what employees do what the county employees do right this is for buses right for rtd rather You know and and what we're thinking is you know if the the way it would work is a primary employer subscriber that has A lot of a lot of employee visitors are huge benefits for them So they become subscribers their employees do get passes, right? Is that just an information source merchant? You're not aware there is the Mobility for all countywide committee meets the second monday at two o'clock Veronica from our team took over my spot on that group But it's kind of like all things mobility. So we talk about everything from electric scooters electric cars bike paths RTD via it's just kind of a broad Look at mobility and moving people to where from where they are to where they want to be And um, I can send you some information about that. Okay, so I'll just take it. Yep. I'll do that But that might be something you might want to just sit in on kind of see what the scope of that work is But as a collective the group has written Letters to rtd. We have some different whatever we have brought in rtd people and They have been very uncomfortable so But nothing has happened because who's got the power exactly they have your tax dollars Yes, and I think it's an inform it isn't informative. I think is what I know I I was not aware and that's very good. The other thing is um, the beneficial electrification Residence committee is about to wrap up a couple a couple more meetings Um, and I'm working on how to Stay connected is what we're, you know, the things that we're working on make it onto the the city's work plans for the different departments and I know for a fact that This is this is a senior issue not only because of the low-income segment my guess about senior demographics would be that it There is a divide, you know, fewer seniors are sort of in the middle and you either made yourself comfortable in retirement or you didn't yeah, and And and that doesn't necessarily necessarily translate to income as opposed to agency where yeah, I can buy a new furnace anytime I feel like it right or I can't you know and But it's a senior for all of Us because Many live in older neighborhoods The electric service to the house Is not as high as it could be not up to the standard that we have now um for new buildings and the cost of upgrading that to go from gas to electric is Pretty high. It's a one-time cost, but it can be three to five thousand dollars Which even for the comfortable seniors That's an ouch, you know and and so I think that groups like this one need to stay hooked in in terms of understanding the cost and making sure that We are the city stays after finding the grant money find finding the capability because You know overall electrification is going to be better for the city in every way But if a segment or more one or more segments are excluded, it doesn't happen The ministry has the city quit with authorizing Gas for new development Yeah, well no not yet and could decide Right. Yeah. Yeah gas for new development. What? I hate to be long-winded, but the temptation is so strong So at the last benefit official electrification meeting um the uh the leadership You know, which is a person from a consulting group and a person from um walnut power Um had the gas for new building Prohibit prohibition ban. It's something like 2035 Yes, and and which was ridiculous, right because I mean, yeah the the gas ban Is going to be in 2040 or something because we can't force people to pull out their gas furnaces, but No new buildings. That's the lowest hanging fruit Well, there was me there was someone there was a member from n car There was a member from a uh a solar company You know a lot of people who were into the deep technology of electrification and we all stood up and said that's backwards That's the low hanging fruit do that in 2025, which is the next time this the next round of codes updates come come in Which is already a little late Because the codes don't prevent any of that right now, right? The codes don't prevent it But the big developers are not you they're not proposing gas anyway, right? They're coming in with all electric proposals because it saves them Bucco money Across the street from us. They're all gas. They're all gas Where is the profit across the street from you on olympia and prairie village all of that Katie every single one Of those homes so they not only have All gas, but we had to have our gas lines booked into to support that and I thought Where are we going? I mean where this this has been going on just for the last two years it feels like a century but But we're going to keep putting in gas lines. We're going to keep Putting in gas furnaces and gas stoves and So the impact is not going to happen until 2045 or 2140 by Isn't there some state legislation that just came up that is going to require local jurisdictions to have codes The prohibit gas and the prairie there is there's um that state legislation uh requires um Disabilities to upgrade the IPCC codes um more often rather than staying six or eight years behind um, but uh, I don't think that it sets a date certain for prohibiting and I bet your polish doesn't sign that Oh, yeah, there's now. Yeah. I'm sure you would not. I mean because what you're you're doing is that you're forcing people And you're forcing developers kb is very powerful All of those people are extreme. That's why we're getting a cross cut. These people have power And they have tax revenue and they have gas and then they have and the whole point is I think about All all of the seniors that are going to be looking at happen to replace A furnace and go from glass to electric which in today's world ain't saving any money But you know, I don't want to see them being forced To change that When big developments like kb can can put gas lines in it put gas in every single house They develop and it's the opposite of that, you know, I mean City employees are really Except for you, Michelle And the people you hire are really conservative, you know, they they are really averse to big change as a group and so um, you know the beneficial electrication committee was arguing and because the Philosophy that we're going forward with is we need to put the stop on new stuff that doesn't hurt anybody right but Um, including developers because I if you said that came I think that's what you need and David are saying Yeah They're all saying that um, and we need to stop that We are never going to force someone To replace an appliance before it's dead And what we need to do Is at least provide parity so that If you don't have the means yourself It's at least no more expensive to replace with electric Than it would be to replace with gas, you know, it makes me think of when When long want when we first had cable and everybody's yarns were getting dug up for cable and older adults had to know I mean them for to afford cable was really expensive for some older person older people And yet you had no choice your yard was getting dug up for cable and we did the cable trust and we Did a lot of advocacy to try and make sure that older people and lower income people had access to that new Technology I guess I'm called cable, but I I would hope that in a Much more preventative way because we have more we we got years We can figure out a similar kind of thing That we start building that pot. We start building that process So people who can't afford to make that transition can at the same time do I think what Dave and Janine are saying and and you were saying is get out of it a little bit more I'll make a motion to adjourn Was that the last item on youtube? Yes. Yes Um, I think the discussion could still go on I'm not sure whether You're in the Navy. Yeah, I see Susan has closed her book Um, I thought it went to noon Yeah, but the reports are we've covered everything Okay, we just don't talk about this. Yeah Second anybody Julie second There we go. There we go