 Into the cloud, okay. Great, thank you. Great, so first, thank you very much, Joseph and Brian for taking care of the billing. It seems we are almost there, so thanks a lot about that. First thing I wanted to say. And then actually, I had a couple of questions for you, Joseph. So if you already know more or less where their consortium is going to publish the announcement that the COVID, the project was funded, and if you have some news on the working group. So we'll probably produce an announcement over the next couple of weeks because the things have been not settled with the payment. I wanted to make sure we had that sorted out before I went to the marketing committee and asked them to do that. So I think within the next, certainly within the next two weeks, we can make that happen before Christmas. And it will be probably what we'll have is, we'll at least have a blog post and the Twitter campaign try to get people to amplify that message. And we'll have Eric and Iona listed, their affiliations listed as Cal State East Bay. What I haven't talked to Iona and Eric about yet is whether in that announcement, we also want to include a plea for more volunteers. So I want to make sure we don't one step at a time thing. I think so, yes, because as Eric mentioned in his email, we actually have a couple of funded RA positions in spring. And we are expecting to have at least three students working on this. So I don't know. And I know Eric, Professor Seuss, is busy. So I don't think we should commit because if we do have volunteers, somebody has to work them through the rigors of it. So maybe we would put it on hold and keep it like more of an internal need for volunteers. All right. Well, we'll have to talk more about that. But so there's also multiple levels of asking for help. So I think that we need to emphasize in the announcement that it is an open project and anybody who wants to become involved. But we don't have to push heavily right now. So I'll talk with you and Eric later about that. But we do want to get that going. So then you asked about the working group. So what we have established is a COVID-19 working group. And the way that works in the art consortium is that we have to ask the ISC, which is the technical committee responsible for approving these things to get it done. So we have that. And we have a number. We have like three projects, well, two standing projects right now in this working group. One is the COVID data form that we do with the Stanford Data Science Institute. And then this project. And then we have a couple of other things like our ad hoc. For instance, one of our members, Tipco, has done some stuff and written some blog posts on COVID-19 work that they've done. And we're going to promote that. But so the working group is established. We've within the working group, we have a lot of freedom to set our own rules. So everything that we talked about within the grant paper is essentially set up. So no one is going to get operational authority to do anything that doesn't go through Eric and CSUEB. And nothing else can happen regarding the strategy without what we consider to be the management committee. So I think I can make that clear in the announcement, too. And that will include the management committee, I think, should include David, Manuel, myself, and Eric. And that's a small enough group to make sure there's some continuity. But I think we're essentially set up. Now, what needs to happen is the quicker we can come on board and start doing work, the more you can forget about what's happening. But I don't think there's. So everything structural is in place. It's still an open source project. You're still the owners of the project. Nothing happened at all with any of the rights or intellectual properties. So my goal over the, by early next year is to have people working on things and you guys happy with how it's proceeding. Great. Thank you so much, Joseph. Thank you very, very much. I think that the opportunity that Joseph is giving us is great for the visibility of the project. And I'm really afraid that we might not meet the expectation of people coming to the repository and working on that. So I really, my fear is absolutely not about the intellectual property or everything else. I'm absolutely happy with the whole setup. My fear now is that we are not ready to meet the expectation of people coming to the project on the operational side. It's my fear now. This is because we started work for two or three months now and unfortunately, I know that we're all very busy, but I still had to take over the whole maintenance. So what I would like to do now is I plan to go on more efficiently. And I really think that maybe people need this data now. They will not need this data in 10 years. So it's absolutely OK for me if the open position for students are coming in spring. I'm very happy about that. But I think that we should commit a bit more even before to fully exploit what Joseph is offering to us. So for that, I would have a super quick presentation to make two minutes crystal clear what I mean. If I can share the screen. OK. Yes, should be fine. Can you see the screen now? Yes. Yes, we can. OK, great. So as Jeff has said, now we are organized in three levels. So management team, I see everything went absolutely is going completely smoothly. And I think there is absolutely no problem with that. With members at large, I hope that we will be able to attract more people. And as said on the operational side, now I'm a bit afraid that we are a bit late on this level. So to make things crystal clear, on the operational side, we have three things now, which is the server, the packages, and Gita. So the server has been running smoothly for five or six months. I really think there's no need in messing up now with the server, with the maintenance of the server. It's running smoothly, so let's forget about that. In case of problems, I can take care of that. There's no problem. For the packages, like the R package, Python packages, again, we had no issues on Gita with the users in the latest month. Everything was stable. So again, let's forget about that. What's left is Gita. So everything now is happening on Gita. During the second wave of COVID, I had a lot of people writing. Not only the point is that what's public on Gita is not the only thing that are happening, because some people are writing to me via email or in the private chat and Slack. And I think it's not fair for me and for the community, because we are open source. Why should we need something private? So everything is happening here and what's happening. So we need to add data, the data hub, to fix the issues and to improve the documentation for the people that are coming and joining the project. So I think these are the priorities now for the project. So adding the data, fixing the issues and improving the documentation. Yesterday, I read from your email, Iona, that probably you are going to do some code snippets or exercises for the class. So that would be great if you can then open source your exercises on Gita or on the website for the whole community. Yes, exactly. That would be the plan and the documentation would be something. Because in your email, I know where Professor Seuss' focus would be the issues part, fixing the issues. I'm more interested in the documentation and the other part so that it's easy for people to access and do something quick with the data so that it's to a wider audience. Excellent. That's great. Absolutely great. I also remember that at the very beginning, you said this thing so that the documentation was not clear enough for you. So I totally agree we need to improve that. But whether you are fixing issues or writing the documentation for exercises in the class, I think we should understand how the code data works. Otherwise, I mean, how can you teach anyone else if you don't know how to do the things by yourself first? So that's why I really think that, as I said, the first day on day one, the best thing we can do is to make a first pull request. The first pull request on the GitHub to add a new data source. That way you realize exactly how everything works. So that's why I would like to add, if possible, one requirement for the operations team, which is we are going to the operations team as soon as we meet on the other work requirements. And we merge a pull request in the GitHub repository. That's not, I mean, this is just to force a bit ourselves to make the first pull request because I know that after the first pull request, everything is smooth. Did you get an email? Pardon me. Did you get an email from Eric last night? Yes. No, to today. Yes. Yes, so did he told me he would write to you after he had submitted a pull request. Did he not do that? Yes, I saw that. I also replied, but I can't find it on the GitHub repository. So maybe he forgot to commit or I don't know. OK. All right, so we're getting close. Maybe we're getting close. Yes, yes, absolutely. I think I have full trust in all of you. All that I fear now is that we are all very bored of the situation. And so this requires an extra effort to work on. But I believe that this would be a nice way to push ourselves to a commitment and a deadline. So this is my proposal for today. And I would like basically just to make a plan on the technical side. All right, so first off, how about if we opened up a Slack channel just for this? We do have it. We do have a Slack channel. If you like, we can do a private chat for the team members. I think, well, what I'm getting at is is there a way for you to funnel all those other communications into the Slack channel? So you said you're getting personal emails and other. So I think the way one thing is to enforce the use of the Slack channel. Maybe we need to put a message out somehow about that. Yes, we actually have it. It's the channel where we have more than 100 people. But the problem even there is that do not write in the public channel. They find my name somehow, and they send me a private message. So I try to tell them post in the help channel or post in the data source channel. But since, again, I'm the only one basically replying, they realize they can. OK, so how about we need to do something to discourage that? So you have to be forceful. Maybe you should just automatically forward them to an Arkansas-Sham email account. Maybe I can set up something like that. I mean, the only thing that train people is not for you to continue to reply. I mean, this is just an idea that we could open up an email account before those messages. Or we keep everything on Slack, Emanuele. But you just tell them, ask your question in the help channel, otherwise I don't reply. I know that you will be the only one replying in the help channel. But at least we have a track of what's going on. And for people who undertake the operational side or help you with the operation, take over, they see what's going on. The student would just write me questions, whereas I asked them to pose the question on the forum. I never reply to them. I say, ask your question on the forum, otherwise I don't reply. You enforce this. I would not go for another email account. Maybe Joseph, everything is already in place. OK? OK, I like that idea. So we force that discipline. And then we'll have to take some responsibility for assigning people to answer the deal with issues in the Slack channel. So OK. I think Uba Sayon and Derek are already on Slack. If you also, Joseph, would like to join. Yeah, I can send you the link later. Yeah, send me the link. So let's do that. Now, let me, I have a couple of more. There's a couple of more developments. One, that the people from Procogia, which is a small company that's a member of the art consortium, they also are on the general COVID-19 working group. And they asked me how the president of that company asked me how they could help. So I think we can probably get them involved. One thing he told me is that they have AWS expertise. Sounds like we don't need that right now. But anyway, they offered that. But perhaps Iona and Eric, we need to see how we can get volunteers maybe from this group of consultants to help out. So I think that's like, it might be the cavalry that could help out in the short term. So we should have a meeting with Eric next week to see how we can, maybe we get them involved in the Slack channel. We have a, we show them the short presentation about the operations. And I think we have something there. The other thing is that I'm also involved with trying to help out the Carnegie Mellon Delphi group. So they have something called COVID Cast. It's a really nice website. And what they do is they build forecasts. They built a COVID-19 forecast. And it goes to the, it goes to places. It goes directly to the CDC, but it also goes to the Rike Labs University at Amherst, a forecasting hub. So again, a fantastic site where they built an ensemble forecast. Now, the Delphi group mostly is using concern with US issues. They have a special arrangement where they get Facebook and Google mobility data. So they have a lot going on there. And I'm trying to interest them in this, in our data. So what I'm trying to do is at least make pointers to different groups that are, you know, bigly groups that are in the same kind of a space. We won't, you know, if anything comes to that, I'll bring this to the management committee. But I'm talking about it as best I can. But thanks very much, Joseph. Maybe I can just make a comment regarding what the first thing you propose, like someone who wants to help. I believe, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, Emmanuel, that what would be best is instead of having 10 people on board, like point, I mean, helping on, sometimes it would be better to have someone who would dedicate maybe half a day per week, or ideally one day per week, you know, committing to the project. So someone who wants to send the mechanics of the GitHub and he's working a bit like Emmanuel and now, like fixing the issues when they come up. And maybe this time over the week, he would represent half a day or one day overall at 20 or 10%. So this, I believe this would be the best, and are you Emmanuel or what? Yes, I do agree with you there. And I hope we are already there in the sense that I think that Ioana and Derek are going to do this. And if they can't, for any reason that may have changed, I hope that they will be able to replace with some students or someone else. So I do agree this is the best plan, but I think what Joseph was saying is that we may have other opportunities. But I do agree that priority should be having at least one people committed to the project. I think we're clear on that. So Eric and Ioana and I will meet and then we'll figure out if we wanna approach the guy from Procogie and see whether that fits. But yeah, I think it's a minimal, the number one priority is to get someone committed a half day a week. That seems like a good strategy. Yes, that would be the best. Yes. I think this transition is important now for two reasons. First, because Emmanuel obviously has a lot of his shoulders on his shoulders. And because what we have seen over the recent months is that several hubs have been developed in parallel, some of which actually mimic the methodology put in place by Emmanuel. So we are just dividing the forces. So now if we can really take over, I mean, if Ioana and Eric can take over and ensure that people can come with their issues and deal with this issue, we can do the marketing around to show like we have one hub, go with this one, don't try to mimic anything with a couple of data sets and wasting time here, join the forces. Right. Yeah, we have too many well-mating amateurs who are, there's a lot of noise. Okay. Okay. So. Yeah. Sorry, Emmanuel. Yes, Ioana. No, I was just going to say, I mean, I definitely see that the next step would be for me, Eric and Joe to meet up and make sure we take over and we have a clear understanding among ourselves who is doing what, while we are familiar. So the pull requires definitely the first thing to do. But I think Eric does feel kind of confident as to what he's doing. So I think it's best if we can kind of talk it among ourselves early next week so that we have a system in place. Okay. Yes, sure. I will send an email later to ask for you to make a plan. I don't want to stress anybody for Christmas. So please. Christmas is canceled. We don't have to worry about it. That's true. Yes, just to make a plan. Then once we have this plan in place with the date for the first pull request, the date for the documentation, I think we'll come later. And then that's, I think we are all set up both from the management side, the operation side, and we are ready to spread to the world. Okay. So let's... Oh, sorry. And on Monday, we have the press release in Nusha 10. So I will forward to... Yeah, make sure you forward that. Me and Dave. Yes. And I'll get that to the Arkansas ownership marketing committee too. That's good. Well, we got some little momentum going here. Let's plan again to meet... Let's see what happens, but should we meet again? We should meet again before Christmas, I think. And if necessary, we can have an emergency meeting, but I think let's see what Eric... Where Eric is. I don't think there is the need to bother Dave or you Joseph if you don't want to. I think that now the meeting should be on the technical side. Okay. So I do agree that on the technical side, we do not have a meeting, we need, sorry, a meeting before Christmas and with some deadlines, but on the management team, if you don't need to join, we can record the meeting and send it later to you. All right, I appreciate that. So Iona and you and Eric, you decide and just let me know what I can do. Instead for the other things that you need to discuss with Daniel and Eric, of course. Right. When you like. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Eric should be more available next week. Today is the last interview, candidate interview. So I think if we can meet next week, maybe like a Monday or a Tuesday. Yes, this is with time, even at the end of the week. Yeah, I think, yeah. So I do believe that's no hurry. No, when you have the momentum, I think it's important we kind of work on it. So I really do want to get going on it. Yeah. So do you know Eric hurt his shoulder badly? I know, I know. No, he can't even type. So I think I was going to just call him. Yeah, I was just going to call him. I think maybe he couldn't with the left hand. He couldn't do the commit. No, I'm sorry about that because he wrote to me, but I understood he was recovered. He was better now. I hope so. Yeah, poor guy. Okay, great. So please, Joseph, if you can send the recording to Eric, that would be great. I will. And I will send a follow-up email to you with a Slack link and to Yonan Derek for the plan. Most excellent. So if I don't see your face again, have a great holiday as best you can. Thanks guys. Best of luck. You too. Thank you very much. Happy holidays. Yeah. Thanks a lot. Bye bye. Thank you. Bye bye.