 at astrossociety.org. I'm very happy to bring to us tonight Dr. Pamela Gay. She's an astronomer, writer, and podcaster focused on using new media to engage people in science and technology. To CosmoQuest.org she works to engage people in both learning and doing science. Join her as we map our solar system in unprecedented detail through our citizen science projects and learn astronomy through media productions like Astronomycast. Through this weekly podcast Fraser Kane and Dr. Gay take you on effects based journey through our cosmos exploring not only what we know but how we know it. And she's coming to us fresh from another hangout and so I feel very happy to introduce Dr. Pamela Gay. Hello everyone I do have the question window open and I also have the chat window open so feel free to ask questions as we go. Brian asked me to come on this evening and talk to you about how you can leverage the CosmoQuest platform to help out with your night sky night sky network activities. I know that inevitably when I go outside to do events I bring the clouds. It's what I do people don't believe me when I say this and then they invite me to star parties and it rains for three days. This is why I work on the internet. It's not the only reason but what I've learned is well the clouds may roll in quite often we can still get online and engage people in the night sky using technology even in these worst case situations. So I'm going to talk to you a little bit about this community that we've built. I'm going to screen share my screen and this may cause your local screen to go a little bit haywire. I apologize if that just happened to you. So CosmoQuest is a project that we built back in 2012 to try and handle the modern data flood that we have. Now this is something that we don't think about a lot but just how we study our universe is radically changing. A little over 50 years ago when Mariner missions first went out exploring our solar system the the first data we got back from a world other than our own that wasn't just reflected light in a telescope was a temperature measurement of Venus. Now if you go back and you read science fiction that was written prior to the spacecraft you'll find that people had their hopes and dreams set on Venus being this tropical paradise that maybe someday we could go to and hang out with the Venetians and when that first piece of data came back well science crushed a whole lot of dreams while creating new ones. It turns out that Venus is like 900 degrees and a little hot to call a tropical paradise but we're not here to talk about Venus we're here to talk about that data and the thing about that data is when we got it back the spacecraft was only capable of holding about 600 bytes of information. Now one byte is roughly one character and if you're on Twitter you have probably tweeted more than 600 bytes in any given day and probably tens of times that during any particular political debate if you happen to be engaged in politics. The amount of data that spacecrafts could originally hold was so small that a typical science team would get all of the data down from the spacecraft quickly chew through all of it and then they pretty soon have all of their results and there was really nothing to do until perhaps new software came along that maybe allowed new processing to take place. Today the picture is a little bit different. The solar dynamic orbiter is taking pictures at a very high cadence of the Sun this allows us to make amazing movies of things like this coronal mass ejection shooting out from the surface and to study all of the intricate interplays between the plasma and the magnetic fields and everything else and as this data comes back to earth it's coming back at a little less than a terabyte most days a little bit more than a terabyte other days it depends on what cameras we're downloading data from either way we are getting more data back each day then scientists have the ability to go through and fully analyze at the rate that it's coming down. We do what we can using software but it's very hard to write software that goes through images and looks for things we don't know exist yet and most amazing discoveries are going to be the ones that come from someone looking at the images and I have to say it's generally looking with eyeballs at the images and going there is something completely unexpected in what's going on here and as science gets to the point that the data pouring down on us is creating a flood that prevents us from completing science we're having to find new solutions and when I say that the data is raining down on us I mean this quite literally this is a screen capture from earlier this evening when the deep space network was well capturing images I'm not images capturing the data that was coming back from well Voyager 1 was getting received on two different antennas and there's both sending and receiving on a third antenna they were getting data and sending data to Cassini and Osiris Rex and well as as we're studying all of this data that is literally raining down on us from the sky we have to figure out how to deal with all of it and globally there's only about 10,000 astronomers and a certain point we have to say we need help and and many of you as amateur astronomers know that professional astronomers quite often reach out and say can you look at these novice for us can you look at these variable stars for us can you help us with your backyard telescopes better study our sky well with with Cosma Quest we're not asking you to go out with your telescopes where we're instead asking you to come on to our website and join us in a virtual research center and and help us handle this flood of data that's raining down upon us now the the idea behind all of this I have to say actually comes in large part from Fraser Kane who's the publisher of Universe Today he and I have been working together on astronomy cast for ten years now and he's he's pretty much been saying since day one why is it that all of you academics in your ivory tower don't just let the public have free access to everything that you're doing with our tax dollars well he's Canadian so it's not his tax dollars but but the point is still there he wanted to know why is it that we don't have completely open access to our data to our seminars to our classes and this became particularly particularly irksome as we began the lunch citizen science projects are as part of the early days of this universe and and the question became why is it that you're inviting us in to help you out with all of these citizen science projects while you sit in your ivory tower can we please have full access and for a long time the the answer was always money we don't have web streaming equipment that's free like we now have with Google Hangouts YouTube live and using low-cost things like zoom and as software got better and servers got cheaper he and I sat down and realized we could brainstorm all of the things we ever dreamed of having in a research facility and put them together and launch it live and free for the public so we brainstorm what are the things that that we would want and and who doesn't want a planetarium and there's classes to teach and well observing is is amazing and so we had the virtual star parties and there's media because we want to bring the experience of being able to go to a seminar to our audiences and there's data projects and resources and well of course there's accounting but that's mostly me so you're free from that and we took all of these things that we brainstormed that would be necessary and I searched through a list of what domains were available to be purchased and at the end of this brainstorming and this searching for a name we ended up with Cosma Quest and today Cosma Quest exists as a project that is strangely being shown with a bunch of yellow lines please ignore the yellow lines and and this project that that we have has it has eight main components and and these eight main components are the citizen science project that you can participate in we're getting ready to launch S roses and the ideas repository this is NASA acronyms for science fair stuff when this appears on our website it's S roses is student research opportunities in space and earth science but we're just going to label that DIY science and these are going to be activities that you can do with your kids you can do with your club members that get you using actual NASA data to do research that well you're doing on your own we have classes for kids classes for adults but I think the thing that matters most to this audience is how can you get involved in the citizen science activities so in general our citizen science projects they're designed for ages 10 and up so if you're having a cloudy night and you happen to have an internet connection and you happen to have five-year-olds we are not the place to go but for ages 10 and up kids who have a bit of dexterity we have projects where you can come and help us map out other worlds this is our current interface as of today as of tomorrow we may have a different interface we're in the process of doing massive upgrades to our website and I was hoping that all of those would be live for tonight but as any of you who are software developers now it's sometimes hard to get things launched exactly on time when you're trying to do innovative things so so with our interface there's a tutorial that you can have set up that people can go through and and the software teaches them how to do it so this can also be the oh my gosh this child this human is asking me constant questions here go do this as someone who goes out and does nights at our museum once a month next to our local night sky network chapter I know that there's often these moments where you have that one person and you need something to get them busy citizen science can be that thing so there's a tutorial once they go through the tutorial there's an activity that they can do they can go through and using the drawing tools in this image they can mark out the craters they can in images that have boulders mark those out and these are highest resolution images available for each of these projects and in some cases no human being has ever actually taken the time to look at the particular image these people are looking at at its full resolution if you think about it for our lunar projects we have a resolution of about a half meter per pixel and that means that if you're six foot tall and lay down on the moon and assumed snow angel position you would appear as being one or two pixels wide and two pixels long in these images of the moon which basically would make you look like a grain of pepper on the moon but you'd be visible and when you start thinking about mapping the moon out at this kind of resolution where humans start to be something you can see it starts to become the kind of project where you realize no one scientist can do this no one team of scientists can do it and we're not just looking at the moon we're looking at the moon and mars and vesta and mercury and we're adding new worlds and new projects on a regular basis and the only way we're going to be able to map out all of these worlds is if we get your help and and so suddenly the how do i get this human being who is standing in front of me and won't stop talking to stop getting in the way of me helping all these other people we can take that person and leverage their enthusiasm by getting them to map out another planet getting their their attention focused on something that suddenly has amazing purpose and and when it's cloudy and we have that person who's like i drove all the way out here which you mean i can't look at the moon and sometimes they say this even though there's a thunderstorm going on when you want to take that person and and get their enthusiasm built back up when the clouds have crushed it down this is a way you can say here let's go online you can make a difference and then with all of you personally if you're like me you sometimes find yourself sitting on the sofa with your spouse who's watching something on tv that that you're not quite sure why they're watching but because you love your spouse you're going to watch it with them this is when the computer comes out and when i map other worlds mapping other worlds can suddenly be that thing we do to give moments that otherwise might be spent checking what's on our facebook feed and playing whatever is the latest game of choice on our phone we can take these moments and give them purpose so so there's a tutorial there's an activity you can do and we provide feedback with with our moon mappers project every few images it's going to come back and tell you how what you did compares with how a professional did marking the exact same image so you can learn through your mistakes you can learn what are the things that you're missing and and as you learn because different people who are at different stages in learning are all looking at the same images we we get 15 different people to look at every single image because it's the efforts of 15 people working together the things that you mark added with together with the things that other people mark we find has a group perfection that is the same as getting a group of professionals to mark things because it turns out just like you may get distracted by the phone ringing halfway through marking an image well the pros get distracted too and by us working together we we can accomplish professional grade research results and this allows us to ask you to come in mark the creators get the people who attend your event events to come in map out the crater ejecta and together we can produce published research um so far i we've had peer-reviewed research come out of two of our projects we have aided in discovering a number of kuiper belt objects working with the new horizons team back when we first launched in 2012 and our moon mappers project we did a paper that did the statistical analysis comparing the results of a randomly selected group of amateurs with a group of eight professionals some of whom have actually been working on mapping worlds since the days of apollo and this is where we discovered that we can be just as as good as professionals as as the amateurs are doing this um one thing i flag here that that we've learned is researchers are really good at mentoring this community in their spare time and this is something you're all probably aware of you've probably worked with a lot of random professional scientists over the years and we're often easy to get a hold of if you want to ask a quick question but it takes a whole lot of time and effort to publish research and one of the reasons that cosmic quest doesn't have a lot of published papers until um we just don't have a lot of published papers is because we haven't had until recently the funding to get our scientists the time they need to publish papers uh thanks to nasa we are currently funded and we have these yellow lines again i apologize for the random attack of the yellow lines um we we now have nasa funding that is going to allow us to build a regular series of new citizen science projects and pay the scientists who are working on mentoring these projects to see all of the efforts that are being put in by the citizen scientists and the amateur scientists to see all of those efforts turned into published research so we expect to see in the coming years a rapid succession of new papers coming out and going into publication now beyond uh all of this a lot of you probably need to find activities occasionally because we're we're trying to inspire people to to get involved and let's face it there's lines for telescopes in addition to periodic bad weather and it's good to use this time to get people learning the night sky network provides amazing kits and in fact cosma quest is is getting some of the people behind those night sky network kits to also build us kits um and in addition to kits we're also working to put together a variety of lesson plans that you might be able to steal parts of to use when you're working with school groups one of the ones that's particularly designed for this is our astrology astronomy astronomy astrology lesson this is one that was put together to be used as a public activity that teaches well why some of the basic ideas behind the astrological interpretation of the zodiac just don't quite make sense one of the things that we go into for instance is in in astrology they have all the constellations equally spaced out but as you guys know it turns out some of the constellations are really thin and the moon doesn't spend a lot of time in them and the sun doesn't spend a lot of time in them but some of the constellations are much bigger and there's actually a really cool activity in this where you get people to form a circle and they start out all equally spaced out and then based on saying that each part of their body is i think five degrees they span themselves out so that they're spread out big if they're one of the bigger constellations or they're just scrunched down to just their body width for the smaller constellations and you can get a sense of well the sun doesn't actually line up with these constellations for equal amounts of time in the real astronomical way of looking at our that are changing sky now i i know already from your emails that some of you are going ahead and you're listening to our podcasts one of the things that we've been putting together since 2009 is the 365 days of astronomy podcast series this podcast series brings a myriad of different voices from our shared community straight to your headphones and speakers this is a project that in fact we welcome any of you to contribute to we've had a lot of really good podcasts sent to us by night sky network and solar system ambassador members over the years that we're very pleased with um this is a place where you can go if you want to find 30 minutes of audio on cultural astronomy if you want to get a monthly update on what's in the sky right now that you can have playing in the background we have astronomy cast in the weekly space hangout are both getting played through 365 days of astronomy so this is a research resource that we put together so that well you have that audio you can play at star parties or other events um to again keep keep people engaged while you might be trying to operate a telescope and not able to talk with everyone who's there now if any of you out there have your own interest in participating as a podcaster in 365 days of astronomy we are in the process of looking looking for new podcasters we will be continuing into 2017 so drop me an email at info at 365daysofastronomy.org and we can work on scheduling your show for the coming year now beyond audio beyond lesson plans um we know that some of you are even lucky enough to either have your club uh at a planetarium or be associated with a portable blow-up planetarium and one of the things that we're working on putting together is a repository of stock images that aren't your everyday stock images of women with coffee cup but rather their stock images that are taken with spherical fisheye lenses that look at our world and create images that can be projected onto domes onto science on the sphere units and allow us to basically see everything from the rocket park at Kennedy Space Center to the the area outside the door of Gemini telescope at Mauna Kea as it would appear if you were there while you're simply staying at home in your dome this stock repository is is something that if you are someone who creates your own content or if you are someone who likes to work with the new google cardboard it turns out the same images that get taken to be used in planetariums and be used on science on the sphere units can also be rendered to be viewed through google cardboard our image repository is going to have images that you can download and if you haven't tried google cardboard at a night sky network event it's worth googling the the way google cardboard works is you take a regular phone can be android can be iphone google is nicely agnostic most of the time and you can either download plans for a fold-up cardboard device or you can just order them off the internet and when you fold up the cardboard viewer you can hold it up and when you look through it it divides the screen so your left eye and your right eye are looking at two different things and this allows you to have a virtual reality experience using just your phone and not having to invest in something like oculus rift the new york times has been producing all sorts of amazing content for google cardboard and cosmo quest is getting ready to get into producing content for google cardboard as well and there are already other folks out there riccardo garcia at astronomy brazil has already been producing these there are some amazing observatory tours that allow you to essentially stand on remote mountaintops with your google cardboard and as you move your head to look around you can look down at well not your feet but the feet of whoever took the images and literally see yourself on the top of a mountain covered in observatories you may have always dreamed of seeing these are new experiences that new technology is allowing and you can take the people who are coming to your night sky network event from looking through your your 12 inch mead your six inch dub sony and those are always my favorite take them from looking through your telescope and seeing Saturn for the first time and and we all know that amazing moment when someone sees it and they're like is this real and they look through the front of the telescope to try and find that like magazine cut out you've hidden there we can take them from going and saying this is what my telescope can see now just imagine what you can do with one of these four meter one of these 10 meter telescopes that exist in chile in hawaii and then you can pull out your google cardboard just your cell phone and some folded up cardboard and you can say let's let's go there let's look at these distant telescopes and then let's look at the distant universe as it's seen through these telescopes this is the future that we're working to help enable with cosmo quest and and we're really here to build things that that will help you communicate your universe and i'm seeing that there's there's two questions so i'm going to come in and see what the questions are john carter says uh you might be able to get rid of those yellow lines by changing the view mode to play so so the reason i'm not in play is if i go into play mode um it doesn't share my screens correctly because i have two monitors and zoom just can't cope with that so thank you for trying to help um usually i'm really good about remembering to turn off all the guides ahead of time apparently this particular slide deck had some guides turned on that i didn't know about so sorry about that um so that has been answered um and then john carter says are there really only 88 constellations no i think that's actually 88 in one of the two hemispheres um but someone else can probably answer that better than me um so i'm not sure um so i'm i'm now looking to see what's going on in the other chat um and i hear someone saying any way to add light music behind the talk maybe holst venus jazz star trek themes um i you know that would be kind of awesome um i do have the technology to do that mixing but i didn't set it up for this evening um and um oh steward is saying there's only 88 constellations are you sure i'm i'm confused okay um i for some reason thought there was over 100 but you know the awesome thing about being a scientist is you're constantly trying to learn new things but occasionally you're wrong and you're always willing to be corrected when you're wrong though so um so apparently the i a u made it official there's only 88 constellations in the whole sky okay so uh learned something you didn't know for certain every day um so so with cosmo quest we're a community um what we do is all about getting people engaged and helping leverage the public to help us explore our universe and providing folks like you who can be our interface to that public with the tools you need to be more successful in everything you do now we couldn't do what we're doing um if we didn't have ways to build communities um so so on one hand we go out just like you do and we do what we call guerrilla science this is like one of my favorite things is when we go to the local custard stand and we set up a bunch of telescopes and a booth in the the parking lot of the medical center next to the custard stand when it's closed and then everyone with their sticky hands we ask to please not touch the telescopes everyone comes over and they smell like chocolate and they just want to look at the stars and it's really kind of awesome and so we go out we do stage shows we do talks we do what we call on the realm science this is when uh we'll go up to people at bus stops and say hi do you have time for a moment of science with our ipads and ask them to get engaged and we also work to get involved in the massive um national and international efforts that i know the night sky network is often part of so we work with global astronomy month we work with international observe the moon night we work with urie's night to try and find cosmo quest activities that can tie in specifically with these large events so i would encourage you as you're working to plan your local events that tie into things like international observe the moon night to take a moment to check out cosmo quests blog and twitter feed and see hey is there anything extra you can bring that um might help out um with with what you're doing i say i have more questions so susie saying over a hundred mesier objects but just 88 constellations that that makes sense um i i have to admit i've spent much more time trying to find all of my mesier objects with binoculars than i have looking at what the constellations they're in are called um so um then lori gunter i think is asking um is space time the same as military or civilian time um that was kind of complicated to answer so um and and the reason i'm saying it's complicated to answer is is when we talk about space time um usually what we're talking about is universal time which is time that is based off of what time is it um in grenich england not accounting for daylight savings time or we're talking about sidereal time which is time according to where the stars are and it counts zero according to what's overhead in grenich on the equinox in the fall um so these two particular different ways of looking at time um the military does use universal time sometimes when they're trying to coordinate global activities you might have sometimes heard this called zulu time um but sidereal time which has to do with which stars are straight overhead in grenich on the equinox it has nothing to do with military time so the answer varies depending on context um so susie gerton is asking when using cosmo question outreach do you still have individuals register um or do you collect data under a generic login so so i have to admit we do still make people log in um but one of the things that you can do is you can create a login for your club and the reason we do this is because it allows us to look at statistics and figure out this person this person rocks at everything they do this person's values we can give higher trustworthy mess too um whereas like if you look at the stuff that's coming out of my account there's a whole lot of museum visitors who have clicked all sorts of randomness and so all of my data really just needs to be thrown away and because i'm logged in when that's happening we can look at the data and go ooh ooh that that matches nothing that person is a crazy person or a five year old um this this person is awesome we love everything they do and and and so you you do have to log in um so andria sweatshirt says it is great to see programs that were originally tied with the international year of astronomy that have continued for so many years do you have a favorite story for how your programs have grown since then oh man um so so i i have to admit that that i know andria through our involvement in the international year of astronomy she was the project manager for the us efforts and i was the webmaster for the us efforts as well as being the uh co-chair of the international task force on new and social media um back before we had a word for social media and we just called it all new media um and and this was this was an event that completely changed my career because prior to that i'd just been a variable star astronomer who taught at a small university and for me being engaged in the international year of astronomy made it possible for me to meet people all around the world and start projects that me here in southern illinois uh aviv yamani uh out in indonesia um rosa doran in portugal none of us could have done what we were trying to do if it was just each of us in our somewhat isolated locations by all of us using digital media to communicate we built friendships we built infrastructure in one case uh kevin govinder and carolina oddman built a family um on the connections that that we made during iya and we are still growing and evolving the projects that started and i i can't say that i have any one favorite moment but what i have is a favorite feeling and that's that feeling of running into people yet again on a new continent and seeing all of us will grow our field together um it's it's amazing how you get involved in something you don't really know where it's going so jill zampe asks does cos do cosma quest activities work on mobile devices like smartphones and ipads for things like marking craters and other peer reviewed projects um we have some activities uh that we release usually to closed groups of people that work on the iphone um we're looking to do broader distributions in the future um we're still in the process of getting all of our nasa money lined up um and that apple developer license has been killing us um this will all be fixed in the new year uh see we will have mobile apps at that point um everything we have works but doesn't work well on the ipad and the reason it doesn't work well is it turns out that just dragging with your finger to create a circle um on the ipad it's it's not the most precise process because we have fat fingers um if you use the stylus they work much better um we're working to come up with ways to better level mobile devices it's it's a frustration that we're all fully aware of um so stewart mires asks in an earlier slide you mentioned about doing activities at science fiction conventions and fantasy conventions i'm curious if you have heard any stories about how any celebrity convention guests reacted to set activities oh i actually have an awesome awesome uh two stories related to this um the first one is i found myself in the green room at pennsycon um with pile o astronomy stuff next to me desperately drinking very hot coffee because i was very sick and i needed the coffee to survive i don't know if any of you have gotten sick while traveling and coffee is all you need in the whole wide world and while i was sitting there richard hatch who was the original apollo on the original balastar galactica when i was a small child and was my original first celebrity crush when i was a small child sat down next to me and i got to explain to him while i had a fragment of the chelibrox asteroid with me not chelibrox asteroid the chelibrox meteorite with me that the chelibrox meteorite was made by an apollo class asteroid asteroid small thing that decided that it was going to enter our atmosphere so explaining to the original apollo that chelibents got hit by an apollo class object was very cool um another awesome moment was back in 2009 i had a gal leo scope that i was working to get signed by celebrities to raise money for iya and i was standing backstage with a bunch of the balastar galactica people you might be sensing a theme here and the actor who played ty in the modern balastar galactica franchise saw the gal leo scope and lit up and he's like i was just reading about those and i was like i can tell you about this and so celebrities are just people like us who happen to do cool things on television and just like the normal distribution of human beings some of them are not nice and some of them are fabulous and at science fiction conventions you often meet truly fabulous celebrities who just want to geek out about science stuff just like we do um that was far too long of an answer for that question um so uh joseph martinez asks can multiple users utilize the same account simultaneously in cosmo quest yes yes they can so this means that if your night sky network uh group wants to set up your own log in set it up on multiple computers our software will say nothing bad about this go for it um and then um nathan brock asks do you anticipate the next physical year budget to change if so how um that is so far above my pay grade i cannot i'm sorry there's certain things that i have to say are even beyond my ability to guess um especially in an election year um so so those are the questions so so the the slide that i currently have up is is like i was saying we're working to build community and and so we're here to help we are in the process of launching new forums that should make it easier to communicate and um we're going to maintain our current forums so some of you may know that many many many many moons ago uh phil plate started the bad astronomy forums um a few moons after that phraser kane started the universe today forums about four years after that uh bad astronomy and universe today combined into the single bad astronomy universe today forums which then joined forces with astronomy cast which then got moved over to cosmo quest and so we have this megalith of forums that have been around for i think 14 or 15 years and they're daunting you look at them and people don't know how to get engaged and and they're also built on older technologies that hackers enjoy hacking um so we're in the process of of we've set those forums up on their own servers we are going to maintain them nothing will be changing but we're going to be adding new forms that are designed strictly for the cosmo quest community members who are taking place in the outreach activities taking place in the education programs getting involved taking classes with our cosmo academy programs and and we invite you to come in we're gonna have all of this launched in the next couple of weeks we invite all of you to come in and and get involved in in our new forums and another thing that i didn't have a chance to bring up and i'm going to bring this up before i run out of time um we do have online learning classes uh we are going to be launching a whole slate of classes starting in january we're pretty much closed down for the fall right now and when cosmo academy launches it's it's your own brian cruise who is here earlier this evening he's going to be one of the folks helping us schedule all of these classes these these do cost money unless you're a teacher um but the amount that we charge is actually based on how much it takes for me to take horseback riding lessons and for friends of mine to take dance lessons so these are cost they're they're they're costed out competitive with other adults we want someone to help us learn thing activities and just like when i take a horseback riding lesson there's only going to be like eight horses in the arena because otherwise death um with cosmo academy we want you to be able to learn as much as possible so we keep the course size small so um we have classes that are five to ten ten to fifteen and fifteen to twenty um enrollees and and this gives you a chance to have a small class experience on the internet instead of one of these massive online courses we're we're trying to make it so that you get to talk and have interactions and debates and conversations as part of your class where active learning the the kind of learning that we all actually want where you're engaged in the data engaged in the lesson we're trying to create all of that using online learning spaces so if you're interested and you do have the resources to to pay to take classes um we'll be offering these starting in january so stay tuned and check out cosmo quest and we see another question coming in anonymous viewer asks did the people who help with the peer reviewed projects get credit when it comes to when it becomes published research yes um so are uh the quaper belt objects that we discovered uh the minor planet center bulletin actually lists over 500 names where everyone who was involved in the search got their name on the paper um if they had successfully identified in a object that was discovered um so yes and and what's cool is with the quaper belt objects these are things that we were looking for in multiple images to confirm the orbit so there was the 15 people that noticed it in the first set of images there was the 15 people that noticed it in the next set of images and so it turns out we were able to give everyone who was involved in marking where those objects were and each of the different images used to calculate the orbits all of those people got credit now when we publish all of our papers we we can't do the page limitations list every single name so what we will do is anyone who is involved in either discovering a key object that's being discussed or anyone who's involved in the analysis will be listed on the publication and there will be a link to the website that allows people to explore who has done what through our galleries and other features so uh joseph martinez asks when you indicate teachers for Cosmo Academy are these certified k through 12 teachers or will they include informal educators that do after-school programs um currently we only have enough money to offer k through 12 teachers who are at public institutions or private accredited institutions um scholarships now the thing about Cosmo Academy is that the the tuition that we ask people to pay if we get the minimum enrollment on a class is exactly enough money to cover all of our bills after we're done paying the teacher paying uh someone like brian to help us with the management paying our server bills but if there's a class of five to ten people and instead of getting five people signed up we get all ten signed up that means we earn a little bit of money and that money can get turned over and the more classes we teach and the more of that money can get turned over the more people we can offer scholarships to so this is the kind of project that if it's successful will be able to open the doors for more and more educators including those in girl scouts and boy scout programs and other after-school programs the chance to take classes um so anonymous viewer is also asking who teaches the courses it's all professional scientists uh so we've had Emily Lactowally teach in the past uh Dr Matthew Francis who's a cosmologist we do have some individuals who only have master's degrees so Ray Sanders who you may know is cosmic ray he taught our introductory courses but in general we try and find who is the person who has the best combination of content knowledge and communication skills so we're we're looking specifically for instructors who who know how to communicate because we've all had that bad professor and Cosmo Academy is doing everything it can to make sure you never get that bad professor um Lori Gattiet sorry Lori Guntner is asking is Cosmo Academy for all ages we really kind of assume that the folks taking it have completed high school um and we do have some classes where we'll put pre-rex or more advanced math understanding um it's designed for adults it's taught in the evening but if you have there's always a chance for there to be exceptions so don't be afraid to reach out to us I would say if you have a gifted and talented K through 12 students to look for programs uh through either the Johns Hopkins Center for Talented Youth or the Davidson Institute Program for Gifted and Talented because it's always good for gifted and talented kids to get to work with their peers and and both the Johns Hopkins Centers for Talented Youth and the Davidson Institute for Gifted and Talented are are amazing programs filled with amazing kids and I know that that having taught for them it's awesome to watch and as someone whose life was changed by being and gifted and talented programs at MIT it's so important to get kids a peer group um I have five minutes left um David Brian do you want to pop in is there anything that you need to bring up before the hour ends we had uh we're going to be doing a raffle uh at the end and uh just a couple of end announcements at uh when you're done so if we I know that you've had a very long day in your time zone that we are and so questions coming in we're happy to entertain them so so I'm just going to tell everyone go to cosmoquest.org this this screen has the url on it cosmoquest.org and what's cool is if you go that go there this week you get to watch the sausage being made uh we're in the process of rolling out a completely new website so literally every half hour the site is probably going to have at least one thing that is new and has never been there before um things are going to break along the ways so there's an under construction warning just about everywhere um that this is your chance to come in and get in at the ground floor as we start a whole new era with cosmoquest under our new cooperative agreement with nasa william merman is asking how can i get my astronomy club involved in these programs write me a letter starstrider at gmail.com and i'll brainstorm with you every club has different needs and different ways to get involved so unfortunately um there's no one-size-fits-all answer but i'm happy to brainstorm with people um tom totem is asking where are planetarium images available digistar 5 compatible um we have full dome masters that can be downloaded for up to 4k projectors um i think that's compatible with the digistar 5 you may have to do some rendering on your own end of dome masters but that's pretty standard um they're available on our science on the sphere um website if you go to cosmoquest.org slash x we have our new menu systems available there and one of the menu options says for kids and parents uh museums scientists teachers in some order of those words um that drop down menu lists the repositories and we even have a free planetarium show available on to create a comments licensing so go grab the content remix reuse spread science anything else you guys want to bring up just me have the blessings of the lord's a cobalt with the i'm not the only battle to galactic offense so say we all say we all so so y'all i got to trick my roommates into watching it um early it was somehow in australia like three months before it ever aired in the us wow i grabbed it and i was like so we're watching this new drama and they got sucked in it was hilarious and great thank you so much for the talk i will definitely be putting this up on youtube for folks to check out and we'll put links to cosmo quest all over the night sky network in our related articles so that sounds great thank you so much david you would definitely be able to be able to find this webinar along with many others on the night sky network under the outreach resources section just search for webinar and tonight's presentation as david mentioned we'll go up on the night sky network youtube page by the end of the week