 Hey everyone, welcome to Open Infra-Live. Open Infra-Live is an interactive show where we talk about all things open infrastructure. I am Wes Wilson. I am today's host for the show. Just if you haven't seen the show before, we are streaming live on YouTube and LinkedIn. We're an interactive show, so we will be answering all your questions throughout the show there. Feel free to drop any questions and we can pop them up and answer as many as we can. So before I get started, I want to thank all of our member organizations of the Open Infra Foundation. Their support makes all of work possible, including this show. Today we have a special show planned for you. It is May the 4th, so for all you Star Wars fans, May the 4th be with you. But more importantly, we are about six weeks away from the next Open Infra-Summit that's happening in Vancouver. So the show will be all about that. And to talk about that today, we'll be having several Open Infrastructure Staffers join us. Basically, to talk about the summit, what it is, talk about some of the past summits, and then talk about some of the details of the summit that's coming up. So if you could join me today, we've got Allison Price, who is our VP of Marketing and Community. We have Jimmy MacArthur, who's our Director of Business Development, and Kendall Nelson, who is our Senior Upstream Developer Advocate. Welcome, everyone. Thanks. Thanks, Wes. Thank you. So before we get started, maybe we can jump into just a little bit about the summit. Like, what is the summit, what does the summit mean to you, Allison? Well, thanks for asking, Wes. No, the summit and the Open Infra Summit, which back in the day used to be the Open Stack Summit. And for me, it's a place for everyone to come together in the community and collaborate, which I think, especially after the past couple of years, where in-person collaboration has been really hard and we've really missed that in-person connection. It's a great place for us to come and get real work done. So what's exciting is that the audience isn't just one kind of person. It's a lot of different roles. It's a lot of different industries, but the common interest is open source and open infrastructure. So you have developers coming to build the next releases of software like Open Stack, product containers, Ceph, Kubernetes, AMA Linux, and then you have operators who are running all of these things in production. So we have, like, Bloomberg and Workday and China Mobile who will come and not only share their use cases, but then also collaborate with those developers on what features they may need to run more successfully in their infrastructure, which is really exciting collaboration to see that. I know Kendall's going to talk a little bit more about in a minute, but then you also have the ecosystem. So people coming to talk about how they're productizing open source components and building a commercial strategy around them. And so that was what the foundation, the OpenM for Foundation calls the three forces. So the ecosystem, the users and developers all coming together and making open source work. So for me, that's what the summit is really about. And I'm excited that we have another opportunity to gather in person in a few weeks. Yeah, that's a great explanation. And I appreciate you describing what it means to you. So yeah, so the summit is an amazing event and it's always a lot of fun. There have been quite a few of them. So pop quiz, Jimmy, how many summits have we had? Uh huh. I'm extrapolating. I'm going to say we have had 17 summits. So close. Anyone else? I already know the answer, so I'm not going to cheat for once. Is it more or less? Can you give me a hint? No, you're not. I'll give you a hint. It's more. It's more. 22. Perfect. That's the answer. Yes. Congratulations. Jimmy, you're wrong. Clearly. Clearly. And any of these questions, too, feel free in the audience to add your answers as well. So I was going to ask, I don't know if I should now, but if anybody wanted to take 20 seconds to try to name as many summit locations as possible, does anybody have any idea for that task? Okay. No, Alison. You go. Okay. All right. I'm going to try. Okay. When do I start? Okay. Let me. Okay. Ready? Go. Austin. Twice. Boston. Berlin. Twice. Vancouver. We'll be three times. Shanghai. Hong Kong. Oh, wait. Sydney. Atlanta. Barcelona. Tokyo. Tokyo. San Diego. It was pretty good. That was amazing. But the summit has been all around the world. We've done it. We've done it. We've done it. We've done it. It was pretty good. That was amazing. But the summit has been all around the world, which, which is incredible thing. And it's awesome to get the community together to do that. As often as we do. So let's do a little reminiscing. So what were the, the first summit for each of you? I know we've all been here for different periods of times have been involved with the community over different periods of times. Maybe we could start with the, the oldest, not person, but the oldest summit. So Jimmy. I think probably the oldest person as well. Yeah. So mine actually was not as a foundation employee, but as a sponsor. Ironically. Cause now I also help sell sponsorships for the event, but it was all the way back in San Diego, which I had forgotten. It was in October, 2012. And we, we ran a very successful booth for our product called Visvid, which no longer exists with my old employer, JP Maxwell from, from tippet. So there it is. It was a, yeah, it was great. It was a lot of fun. Allison. Yeah. So mine was, I guess this is nine years ago. It was the Atlanta summit, which was really exciting for a lot of reasons. I feel like that summit, like we announced more things than I can even count on both hands. But like that's when super user first came around, which has become one of my passion projects and has been really exciting to grow over the years. So I, it's a community led publication that we at the foundation help editorialize. So it's really exciting to see that have grown since Atlanta and it's also when we introduced the open stack marketplace where open stack vendors could have their products in one place so that users can come and make some informed decisions. So that's another place where we've seen a lot of growth and more people just coming to learn more. But I think my favorite thing about that first summit was that Mark and Guillaume Obuchan from digital film tree did a between two firms fernskit, which that's when I first realized I was like, okay, we have fun here. It's great to laugh and do silly things and bring out weird plants mid keynote. So I'm really excited to kind of see that back then and not your typical trade show. I'll tell you that. It's interesting that ferns are weird plants. That's one thing I hadn't thought of before. I saw a side weird side note on this slide. Actually, I hadn't thought about this. I wasn't working with the foundation yet and hadn't been to a summit, but I did help bring the designer in place and put together those characters. So I do have a little bit of a tie there. My first summit was Vancouver 2015. And it was before this, I had only been to one tech conference before with the South by Southwest, which is just, you know, just insane. So actually getting here and coming to a conference that was like, I don't know, it just felt so community driven, but also well done. Like the people were amazing. Like the keynotes were ridiculous. I don't know, it was just a fantastic one. It was also my first time in the Pacific Northwest. So, and I ended up moving here. So holds a good place in my heart. Kendall. Yeah. So if you want to talk about chaos, my first summit was Austin, which was like bewildering how many people were there. It was crazy. And like, I think the whip, this women of open stack breakfast where this picture was taken was, it was the very first talk I ever did. I had the very first tech conference I was ever at. And it was horribly overwhelming. I was like shaking like a leaf. And I was like up in front of everybody and talking about just like the things that I had learned getting into the community. Cause at that point I had been to a couple of syndrome mid cycles, but none of those prepared me for what it was in store at the summit. And I met so many awesome people, but still had like a lot of really good friends from Cinder kind of helping me through things. So I think making connections was like my favorite part. And then strengthening the connections I already did have was awesome. It was so much fun. And that was before I was working at the foundation. So I, it's become even more of a roller coaster ride since starting at the foundation. That's great. That was a good summit. So let's, let's move a little bit further in this and actually just ask like, what is your favorite summit memory? Obviously we've all been to a lot of summits now. And this could be, you know, anything from specific experiences to community connections, stuff that actually content it was at the summit, that kind of thing. Jimmy, you want to start? Is it just because I'm old? Is that what's happening? Sure. Yes. I'd be happy to start mine also. So my favorite moment was Austin, probably for different reasons than you all. I think there's a slide somewhere. Anyway, no, that's on there it is. Okay. So it would seem that it would be a registration, but it's not registration. If you, if you look in the far, far left there on the picture, there's a little information booth that I ran. And it was the first time it was my first summit as an employee of the foundation. And it was the first time that I really got to interface with the community and answer face to face questions. A lot of people hated the app that we created for it. So it took a lot of heat, but ultimately they ended up really liking it. And it was a great opportunity to talk to the community and really get a feel for what people want to do at the event and help people out, which is a thing that I like to do. That's awesome. Allison, you want to go next? Sure. So my favorite summit memory was from Boston when we rolled out a really, really, really long table. I can't even remember how many laptops are on that thing. And I want to say it was like 17 or 18, but like to do an interop demo, it was probably which like, it was just so cool to see, you know, people again, this is like people from all of these different companies coming together. It was an open stack demo. And the best part was the table just kept on coming. Like it never stopped. It felt like, so I remember I was in the front row and I was like, wow, that's a really long table. But I think the demos themselves like have a really big impact just being able to see the software and what's actually going into it happen on stage. So I'll be talking a little bit in a minute about what demos we have planned for this coming summit, but this one was definitely just something I could not, I can never forget. Yeah, I remember that. That was, that was insane. Kendall, you want to talk about yours real quick? Yeah. So my favorite like summit memory was the first time we were in Berlin. So I had the pleasure of doing a keynote with Doug Hellman, who is not so present in the community anymore, but I still get to see him in the larger world of open source. He is awesome. So I was reasonably nervous and it was good to have him there to kind of help keep me a little bit more calm because this was my second keynote, I believe ever. Where my first one was a demo that didn't go well. So I had a little bit of PTSD from that maybe, but it was very exciting to be able to celebrate our contributors on stage, which was the whole point of this particular keynote. We actually presented the community contributor awards on the keynote stage for the, I think it was the first time we had ever done that. And I just really loved giving praise to all of these people that do so much for our communities and to be able to be standing up there in a skirt with code from my first contribution to OpenStack was like the cherry on the cake too. It was awesome. It was scary, but fun. And I have had the pleasure of doing a keynote just about every time since then. And my nerves have gotten way less bad. Normally I'm the person calming the other one down now instead of the one that's like externally freaking out. I keep that inside now. That's great. I do remember that keynote. It was good. It was good. So I'm going to jump forward to our most recent Berlin, which is the open and for summit Berlin. And I'm not actually going to talk about something at the event. My favorite thing was the actual promo leading into the event, which was the Nils video, which if you haven't seen it, you should find it. I love it. It was just hilarious and great. It was put together by our team and then by a past meeting. And then we also had the open stack group open and for foundation staffer. Shari in Germany. So killer. I love that kind of stuff. So let's, let's move forward to actually talking about now that we've walked on memory lane, which was fantastic. And I appreciate all the comments that are coming in as well, because I know everybody had probably has their favorite memories. And, you know, want to hear all those, but let's talk about this upcoming summit. So we've got a summit coming up June 13th through 15th, so where is the summit going to be? Does anybody know? So we can get flights and tickets and stuff. Thank you. Round three. Round three. It is a beautiful city. It's a lot of fun to go to. So looking forward to seeing everybody there. What's, what is everyone looking forward to the most? Kendall, you want to go? Uh, I am looking forward to the PTG in person being co-located at the summit on the last two days. That's definitely what I'm looking forward to the most. It's been quite sometimes since we've had our contributors all together in person. We got a hint of that last year in Berlin, but the PTG in Vancouver getting everybody to sit at tables with one another and rebuild that feeling of connection and community. I'm super stoked for. Yeah, that's great. I am too. Jimmy. Um, yeah, I, of course, I'm a little biased, but the marketplace, I love it. There's lots of activity there. And I get to see all my wonderful sponsors that I've worked with kind of see their way through the event and see all the activity out there. And also, um, on site, we, we get a chance to meet with our, our platinum and gold members, um, and then have some strategic discussions, which I think are super valuable. Um, so if you're interested in becoming a platinum or gold member, contact me. Uh, or if you want to sponsor the event, now is your chance. Hey, how would they get a hold of you, Jimmy? Uh, well, you can get me at Jimmy. Perfect. Alison, how about you? Yeah. Um, my favorite thing has always been around the users. Um, I, when I first started at the foundation, I was really working closely with the user survey, um, for open stack, which I still do, but it's been really exciting to see users from all of our different projects and all of the different, um, different open source projects out there. I know Bloomberg is going to be there talking about upgrading, which is probably every open stack operator has some kind of an opinion or frustration with that. So exciting to see a user come in with a challenge that they've figured out how to address and so they can educate other operators on the same. Um, and we also have users for some of our other projects like workday, who has traditionally talked about their open stack use case is going to be talking about how they went from Jenkins to Zool, which is really exciting to kind of hear how that migration and what the reasons were for that. Um, Microsoft is going to be talking a little bit about Clota containers, which is really exciting in the keynotes and more Starling X, um, than ever before. So it's just kind of exciting to see what people are actually doing with the software and running it, whether it's in POC or production and sharing those bits of wisdom with the other folks who can, who are hoping to implement it in the future. Yeah, really cool to see so much just use case across all of the open infrastructure projects. And, uh, it's actually especially cool to see, um, you know, like workday where somebody goes from being open stack exclusive to, you know, in the open info world to now Zool and seeing them talk about that a little bit more. Yeah. Uh, I'm looking forward to the keynotes just because I get so involved in those and, you know, there's so much production goes into them and everybody brings their A game. It's going to be going to be a lot of fun. Um, so I heard this year we have a, uh, a diversity and inclusion badge and this time we got gold, which I think for everyone, what goes into that Allison? So, um, well, big shout out to chaos, who is a group that really focuses on diversity and inclusion across different open source communities. Um, so we work closely with them from the open infrastructure foundation to get advice on how to make the, um, make the open infrastructure summit more inclusive and welcoming diverse community members. So, um, they gave us some advice. Um, last in Berlin, we were at a silver badge. So we got upgraded to gold by implementing different things. Um, and a lot of it is just adding more things to our FAQ. So folks know where they can get specific requests or how they can make specific requests. Um, we also have a travel support program, which is a huge part of our community that helps people from countries, um, who may not be able to actually attend the summit, um, attend. And a lot of times it's for their first time and they're already very active in the community remotely. So that gets them here. Um, and it's a great program and it's always something that we're open to donations for to get more people to our events. Um, because a lot of times they're so appreciative and they wouldn't be able to go to the event regardless without it. So, um, it's really exciting to work closely with chaos and getting that recognition and honestly just making the open in for summit as inclusive as possible. Um, and I also want to thank the open in for a foundation diversity and inclusion working group led by Amy Marish, um, who's on our board of directors. They've done a lot of work to make, um, give us suggestions on how we can make the event as inclusive as possible. So I'm really excited to see some of those things, um, fall into place in Vancouver. That's awesome. I know a lot of work goes into that. So thank you for the, to the working group and to the, to the staff and the chaos, everybody that made that, made that happen. Um, so we can talk a little bit about the actual things that will be discussed, uh, in this summit. So Kendall, do you want to talk a little bit about the trends that we're seeing? Yeah. So I think the, the biggest one and one near and dear to my heart is, uh, the, the low key stack. So Linux open stack Kubernetes, uh, infrastructure. Um, so we have key notes on it where there are actual presentations on it. There are forum sessions for it. And I'm sure it will also get discussed, uh, by a number of projects at the, the project team gathering as well. So it's everywhere. Um, the other thing that's really, um, been a hot topic lately is confidential computing. Um, so with Kata having a presence at our summit, we, um, we'll definitely hear about the confidential container project that is, um, part of that. And it continues to be, uh, a growing trend in, in Europe. So I'm sure that we'll have a lot of discussions around that as well. Yeah. That's awesome. You said, you're, you said, Loki everywhere that might be a tease for the keynote as well. Yeah, maybe. Very cool. Uh, so there's this time we're having a, uh, um, a hiring event, which is new. We've done, um, some hiring pieces at the summit before, but maybe Jimmy, if you want to talk a little bit more about that, since that's a important piece in today's climate. Yeah. Um, it's one of the things we're seeing is, is a lot of growth with, uh, organizations running OpenStack and Starling X and Kata. Um, they're all hiring and I know it's a tough time out there. The job, job market is, is a bit tough, uh, especially in the tech industry. Um, but we are happy to showcase, um, a handful of organizations, uh, that are, yay, uh, that are going to be hiring at the event. And, uh, I think, uh, we'll be adding to these as, as we go on, but we'll feature a jobs board. Um, and as well as, uh, an area where, uh, people looking for jobs can meet up with, uh, potential employers and exchange information. And hopefully, uh, get some more folks into our community, uh, contributing upstream. Uh, in the meantime, if you want, you can take a look at our jobs board at openstack.org slash jobs. Uh, and we have, uh, even some organizations that aren't listed here. Um, like, uh, uh, oh, uh, a wiki media foundation and, uh, let's see, there's a couple of others. I don't know. Anyway, uh, go check it out on the job board. My brain is, is, uh, but, uh, we're very excited about this and we're very excited also about the fact that, uh, we've reached out to universities all over, uh, the Northwest, uh, and, and, uh, in Canada as well, uh, to get their students there at the event, uh, and hopefully put them in a position to get off on the right foot and, and get started in the job and in open stack and open source. That's awesome. I'd love that the university tie into. It's such a cool thing to see some, some fresh folks, uh, getting involved and hopefully getting set up with new jobs. So the second ago, I teased the keynote piece, um, Allison, you and I will be hosting the keynotes this year. It'll be my first time, uh, on the keynote stage. So I'm sure that will go tremendously well. Uh, uh, excited about it, but without giving anything away or too much away, maybe what can we expect from the keynotes? What can we expect? Um, you can actually affect a lot of talk around open infra. No. Um, so we, I feel like they'll set it up pretty well. We, we organize the keynotes around common use cases that are, um, or emerging one. So I don't know if you've even just stumbled on the internet, but AI is really big right now. So we really wanted to talk about, you know, the intersection of open and front AI. Um, so we have a long time open stack contributor coming back to speak on behalf of NVIDIA, which is John Dickinson. So really exciting to welcome him back so they can talk about how they're using open stack swift. Um, and then we also have a segment on confidential computing that'll be really focused on product containers, um, including a live demo. So, um, that'll be really exciting to see. And then we have like, and we'll mention Loki. So, you know, Linux open stack Kubernetes is a really common integration, um, framework for folks. And we're going to see it implemented in different ways via demos as well as, um, some talks around Starling X, which is also an integration of those three technologies. Um, so a lot of demos and a lot of highlights just showing how open infra is advancing and where it's advancing. I'm not going to give too much away on that. Um, and we'll of course, you know, announce the super user awards winner. Um, but I think that, you know, Helena in the chat brought up something really interesting. So in Berlin, um, in the green room, um, Muhammad Nasser, who's the speaker of the next post, challenged all of our keynote speakers to use the word potato, which as the keynote MC, I had no idea because I was seeing like watching people go on and off and I'm like, why are they talking about potatoes? I think I remember even the, um, the speaker from, uh, fungible being like measuring data sets with a potato. And I was like, this is not a rehearsal. So I was like, okay, but what I want to give to our audience today is, you know, West and I, like he said, we'll be emceeing the keynote. So I want y'all to help us brainstorm a word that we're going to give all of our speakers right before they go on stage or hopefully if they're watching the show today. Um, and by the end of the episode, West will announce which word we'll choose. So drop them in the comments. I used to do this to Mark all the time when he was keynoting. Um, but we'd love to give some challenges to our speakers. And, um, it's honestly really fun and exciting to see how they use some words when talking about open source. So drop your words in the comments and we'll select one by the end of today's episode. Yes. Let's get it selected ahead of time because they decided on potato after I was on stage and I was like, I didn't get a chance. Well, now that's, that's fantastic. I can't wait to see what the word is. I'm ready. I'm ready. Okay. So keynotes are one part of the event. There's obviously a lot of other parts of the event, which are like the forum can already mentioned the PTG. There's, there's other summit talks like Kendall. Maybe you want to talk a little bit about all the differences for maybe somebody that never been there before. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, it might be a little hard to just read about them and understand the differences, but we're all familiar with like the traditional summit talk, you know, people presenting an area that their subject matter experts on hopefully or some new thing that they've accomplished. So that's pretty normal. We have a lot of really interesting ones coming up and you can definitely check out the schedule already. That's been published for a while, but the forum is more discussion focused. So the idea behind the creation of the forum was we wanted to get feedback from operators and we wanted to engage a larger, a larger part of the community than we had been able to with our project team gatherings and our like mid cycles that we host. So what we hope from them is that there will be a moderator, a moderator that's reasonably well versed in a particular topic and they'll present the discussion to the group and there will be like active conversation happening. And we'll hear from people that aren't normally involved in regular project meetings and that sort of thing. So whatever feedback you have about features, I know there are a number of open tech services that are planning on meeting and would love feedback on whatever release you're running. It doesn't have to be Antelope, the most recent one, but there are hopefully going to be forum sessions on Cata containers and Starling X as well. So there will be opportunities for everyone at all levels of knowledge and experience to get involved. There is a really cool one that will be on kind of open source and what we do to try to build a blueprint for the ideal open source community and how to build and grow open source communities around particular projects. So that's another one to look out for where the PTG is much more focused on technical discussion. So the people that usually attend the PTG are the active developers on any particular project. And if your project is interested in being involved and not currently signed up, definitely reach out to me. You can either email PTG at openinfra.dev or you can email Kay Nelson at openinfra.dev and I will make sure to get your team added and able to participate. We would love to see more teams. I'm really excited to be welcoming Allmo Linux to participate in our PTG and hopefully we can get some other adjacent communities on the list before we all are there in Vancouver. I think Rocky Linux is going to be there as well. Yeah, another one. So many Linuxes. All the Linuxes, yeah. That's great. Well said. Yeah, and I agree with the last comment that the forum is a super important piece. I've enjoyed the forum sessions that I've intended before sort of seeing the way that people use it and then eventually seeing how that works its way into the software is really, really cool. So speaking of summit talks, are there any talks in particular Allison that we should be looking out for? Hmm. So summit talks in particular. Well, I do want to highlight some of our spotlight, spotlight sponsor talks. These folks, we really appreciate them supporting our event and they have some great talks that range from talking about the software itself and how their users are using it or how they themselves are using it. But one of my favorites from Red Hat actually is, was it, hang on, dude, where's my community or something like that that Owen Glenn is going to be doing? So really talking more about the community oriented things, which I think a lot of our audience is really, you know, they resonate with. So, you know, and Vexhost has ones, they're going to be talking about a tool that they developed called atmosphere, which I think will be really interesting just to see how different open source projects are coming out of different organizations, which is a trend that we're really seeing and something that's why the open info foundation actually posts different open source projects. So we welcome, you know, organizations to bring open source projects to us and we can help build communities around them. West has actually developed all of the programs around it, but it's something that we'll be talking about a lot there as well. So I'm excited for that. But really just kind of looking through all of these different talks. Like I said earlier, users are my passion and I'm excited to see a lot of returning users as well as new users. So new folks to kind of talk to and encourage to take the user survey, which is what I bug the community with all year long. But overall, I'm just kind of excited to see a lot of new faces. We have more new speakers this time than I think we've had in a while, so exciting to see that. Awesome. And so if somebody wanted to find all of these sessions and get an idea of when these sessions are and all of our other sessions, where would someone do that? That's a great question, West. If you go to open info.dev slash summit dash schedule, you're going to find that schedule. There it is right there. Found it. Oh, and you know what? I just remembered plus server and vault cloud. Those are the other two companies that have jobs listed right now. Yes. Thanks, Jimmy. Yep. Just I was like going back in time. Yeah. Just for a second. Is there anything else anybody else forgot from previous segments they wanted to? Oh, that's so great. So if we were to just sort of, you've got one minute each or maybe longer, 10 minutes each or some other random number to just let every attendee know one thing about the summit that they need to know, like a bubble up one specific thing. What would that thing be? Alison. Well, mine's not for attendees necessarily. It's for people who have not registered. So prices actually increased to tomorrow. So May 5th, Cinco de Mayo, 1159 p.m. Pacific. So prices will be increasing. So if you have not registered yet, you still have time to do so before that increase happens. So and that increase does apply to contributor codes as well. So if you're a contributor who has been delaying registering for the summit now is your time. So please do so. We want to see as many faces there as possible. We look forward to that in person collaboration again. I go Jimmy, I have two things. One, if you need a visa letter. Now is your time. You should, you should ask for a visa letter. And there's a form available on the summit website, open info.dev slash summit. And then the other one is if you want to sponsor. Now is your time as well. May 8th is the deadline. I might be able to push it a couple of days, but we have all of our wonderful sponsors here. Wind River and thank you for the headline sponsorship. And Ocastro is our premier sponsor. And all of our other wonderful sponsors. So join them. Be a part of it. It's fantastic. Those are both two great things for the record. We asked for one thing, but that was pretty great. I like to cover a lot of ground. You know, in five minutes, he's going to have three more things that he wish he had added. That's fantastic. Kindle. Well, Allison kind of stole my one thing, but it's okay. So to all you contributors out there that have codes that I know have not been used yet, make use of them and probably do that before prices increased. I guess I kind of have the same two things that Allison had, but in a different order. So yes contributors, please register. We need you there for the PTG. We need you there for the forum. We need you there for your knowledge and your energy. And because we love your beautiful faces. So come join us. Love it. Yeah, looking for everybody there. Wes, what do you want? What is your one thing? You have one minute too. My one thing. Can I just say all of your things? Register because price increases tomorrow. There's still an opportunity to, to sponsor. If you're a contributor and haven't used your code, please do. And now's your time to get your visa invitation letter request then. Yeah. Can I get them all? Yes. And jobs board. And schedule. All of them. Great. Luckily we have a single URL where you can get all of those reminders. So. Fantastic. And if you get a sense for how goofy this, this opening for live episode is you probably will see how much fun we have at the summit. So if you're looking for. Some fun. This is but a taste. Was there anything else anybody wanted to cover on the summit itself? Great job. First, if you can, if you can't tell. So thank you everyone. Appreciate all of your. Your laughs and your information. This was a thanks to the audience for their participation. It was, it was interactive and fun. It was fun. And I can say as my first time being a host, it was exactly what I expected. Thank you all. We've already covered a lot of this, but please don't forget us to join us at the summit. Is a limited capacity. So a lot of events and registration. Is currently open as, as was mentioned by Allison earlier, prices are increasing. Tomorrow. The day after May 4th, which was May 5th. So. Make sure you get your tickets today. You could find all that information at open it for. Dev slash summit. Also again, thank you to all of our open it for foundation members for making the show possible. And if you have any ideas for a future open and for live events, you can submit those to ideas. Open it for. Live. So thank you all. Thank you. Thank you to all of our open it for. Live. So thank you all. Keep an eye out for the next event. I'm sorry, the next open it for live episode that will be happening. You can find that on open it for. Live. And we'll see you all at the summit. Bye. Bye. Thank you.