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No, you know what? This is a good actually a good thing to talk a good topic to talk about too, because oftentimes when we're ill and then we feel better, we go back to working out and we tend to and I this I always fell for this too. I would have this mentality where I would jump into what I'd, you know, what I'd last left off. You know what I mean? So I'm, oh, yeah, I was doing, you know, six sets for each body par and this is the weight that I was using and I've learned my lesson so many times. Oh, I haven't learned my lesson so many times where I just overdid it. So this time what I did is I, I went in, I cut the volume in half totally, went really slow and really the goal was just full range of motion. And, you know, I think what people need to know is that's enough to elicit the muscle memory. So whatever you lose, you'll gain back very quickly with a very easy, you know, workout. And I plan on doing that all week. You did too, right, Doug? Did I hear you say you were back? I did. Yeah. Oh, I'm just the only lazy bastard here. You're a slow one here. Yeah, yeah, just sitting around buying stuff. No, bro, I'm getting shredded right now. Nothing tastes good. That's so that's okay. Is your taste still messed up? Yeah, that came later for me. So like, I would say day five or so it really started to look like initially, I remember when we were all talking, everybody's on the phone going like, Hey, you guys, how's everyone's tasting? I was like, Oh, mine's fine. And then like day five, all of a sudden it started. And it's, uh, I have taste. It's just fucked all my taste and smell up. It's weird. So everything just tastes different. Yeah, taste and not good. Really? Yeah. So food has just been, is soup is like the best tasting thing you might have just stumbled upon the best cutting diet of all time. Yeah, I know. I was going to write the bat soup diet. Imagine if food just didn't taste good, how easy it would be to lose weight. That sounds awesome. No, I lost my sense of taste for like, not even a day. How weird is that? Literally for one day, that's it, that's a swear to God. So for one day I was eating and I'm like, Oh man, I lost my sense of taste. I'm like, I know this usually takes a couple of weeks. The next day back. Oh, here's a weird, here's a weird thing that I got. I got a very strange rash. Oh, yeah, I saw that. Yeah, you're sure that wasn't like an STD thing? Yeah. Where was it? Yeah, on my bunch. It was all up and down. Yeah, he sent me a picture. Here, hold on. Let me show you. No, all right. That's a friction rash. Yeah. No, I wasn't, no, I didn't get anything on my bunch. No, I was, I was in the, you know, I took a shower and I get out and I kind of look, I'm like, am I breaking out? That's really weird. Why the hell would I, and it looked like I was kind of breaking out on my shoulders a little bit. And then I looked down on my forearms and it kind of looks like I'm, I broke out a little bit, but it's, it's a, it's COVID apparently can cause rashes in people also, which is an unknown. I didn't know this. So I had a very, very, it's very minor. So it's not that big. Now Jessica rebounded pretty fast. You said, huh? She seems to be, she seems to be rebounding pretty quick. So she's like three days behind me. Yeah. And I would say, aside from feeling tired, she, she seems to be okay. And then the baby, he had a fever two nights during the day. He didn't then two nights. He had a fever and then now he doesn't have anything. And he seemed, he just seems a little bit more clingy right now, but that's it. Other than that, he seems okay. So all that's good. Yeah. But yeah, as far as the workouts are concerned, when you're after an illness or injury, like literally throw away what you, what you, what you normally consider to be an easy workout and go much easier. And you'll bounce back for it and then give yourself a timeframe. It's what I have to do with myself. I have to say this whole week, because I know what I'll do is I'll do one workout. I feel good and then try and go right after it. Might as well go hard tomorrow. I feel phenomenal. And then you end up overdoing it and, you know, and slowing down your progress or whatever. So today I was just going easy. Doug and I were literally, it was like a 25 minute, 30 minute, you know, kind of pump session or whatever. Justin, I see you all over the place. Were you, were you doing down in slow? Yeah, I was down there for my kids, had this gymnastic kind of tournament thing. Dude, I've been super active the last, you know, week or so we haven't been hanging out just been between moving stuff and then also like double days for football, like, because I've been able to get work done. And then like remotely, I was actually able to get there on the field and dude, I've been working out. My metabolism is raging right now, beating everything in sight. It's crazy, man. But we went down to, what's that? I said, you look really handsome. Thanks. Sorry. Yeah, I've been trying. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, I went down there and this is my first experience with gymnastic people. So it was a bit of a culture shock for me. I didn't really know where to stand or, you know, how to hang out or anything or like, where to put your hands. Yeah, I'm like, what do I do with my hands? Like, put them in your pockets because, you know, it's creepy. Yeah. So there's lots of spandex and certain colors that don't really appeal to me, if you will. Like, it was kind of funny because so they have like specific uniforms they have to wear. And so my kids had on these like, like really tight tank tops that were like unitards almost and they put like these little tiny shorts on. I was trying not to laugh, but they're having fun with it, you know, they're kind of making fun of each other with it. But dude, they did it really well. And then actually after the first day, like Ethan was trying this one move that was like some crazy brawny thing that like they have this huge foam pit where he's doing these like triple flip things. And he actually landed one after that on the trampoline and then got some award for it. So I was like, oh yeah. Super pumped for him. Yeah, I was super, super proud dad moment. So there's definitely a culture. There's definitely, because I remember, you guys remember when we did the kettlebell competition here? Yeah. There was like kettlebell sport. We actually hosted an event and all of us were, you know, this is for the listeners, we were all kind of blown away that they have their own culture. Like everybody had like a particular brand of bag and shoes and everybody kind of, and of course, right? There's a culture for every sport, bodybuilding, it could be jiu-jitsu or whatever. So I would imagine gymnastics has its own kind of culture too. Yeah. Oh yeah. Did you see a lot of that? Is it clicky or what? Yeah. Well, I think a lot of the parents kind of know each other beforehand. And so like me and Courtney were just kind of, I mean, we, we were trying to be friendly and introduce ourselves to everybody and not be like total, you know, like hermits over in the corner. But it was still, it was still like who's who, it was kind of like a status, weird kind of rich people sport, you know, where it's like, it costs money to get these kids like all uniformed up and go to travel and do all these things. So it's kind of like clicky in that sense where, I don't know, it was a certain kind of a snobby kind of a feel to it. And then also just like, like who's, what program they have their kids in and like they're all talking about like, you know, like all this like higher education stuff and, and we're just like, cool. You know, like, is anybody just like chill and normal? Or is it like, you know, it's like the who's who of what? To Sal's point is, was there like, I mean, was there like chairs and outfits or bags or things like, I mean, were you up and up on like how you were supposed to look? Yeah. So there's like track suits. And there's, there's bags for sure. And there's like, they, they all, they all have like tight, really tight attire that they're rocking. And that's the parents too. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like wild, like it's like bright pink was like a color of, you know, that they chose for the all the boys to wear. And I was just like, dude, I'm not having this. You know, like, I don't know. I'm old school, dude. Like that's that, that, you know what? In Arizona, they, they forced prisoners to wear bright pink to humiliate them. So that's where I'm coming from. Is that true? Yeah. Yeah. There's this one prison ward like guy or whatever he, you know, who runs the prison and he makes everybody wear not only pink, but also pink underwear, I think. What? Yeah. It was just, that's a real thing. No way. Yeah. Masculate them. Yeah. So anyway, I mean, obviously I didn't care. I'm like, I'm not like forcing all my shit on everybody. But I was just like, it was interesting for me to get immersed in that. But then there was, there was some Olympic athletes there coaching them. And it was pretty cool to watch the strength and the feats that they could accomplish. So I mean, there's a lot of like really cool stuff there for sure. This is like so interesting to me right now. You didn't know that, huh? No, I did not know this. Now, this, okay, this Arizona, Doug's pulling it up right now. So this Arizona prison, now did he make just everybody do it, or was this, was this punishment? No, everybody. Oh, yeah. Everybody. But pink socks, funny underwear, pink shirts, but all like the hardest dudes, you know, look, they all look ridiculous. And it's like, it's sort of like brings them down a notch. Did now, did you read anything on it? Like, was there any research so far? No research. I think he's just, you know, he's just trying to show everybody what time it is. I'm going to make you wear that. Yeah. Does it do anything? It was a power move, you know? Yeah. It'd be interesting to see if it like calmed the fights down or whatever. Like if they actually did some research on it to show like it actually. Yeah. That'd be interesting to see if it worked, but I don't know. Everybody has to wear, you know, bikinis, you know, or whatever. Yeah. That might backfire. Yeah. That's hilarious. There might be a new problem. Yeah. I just imagine you walking in there and everybody's like, oh, who brought the skater or the mountain? Who brought the meathead skater cholo? Yeah. What is going on over here? Yeah. I know. That's why I was trying to find my people and I just, you know, I didn't have luck, but it's okay. Gymnast blow me away always. I'll never forget. I trained a, she must have been 14, a 14 year old gymnast when I, way back when I first became a trainer. So I was like 18 or 19 and this mom hired me to train her daughter. And she was this little 14 year old girl and, you know, typical gymnast, right? She stood real tall posture kind of cause they're, you know, they're pretty jacked, right? Especially if they've been in training since they were kids. And I'll never forget this girl. I'm like, well, can you do a pull up? And she's like, oh yeah. And she jumps up on the bar like this. Like, like I remember the look on her face didn't change and she had her legs pointed straight out in front of her as if it would like to show me, you know, oh yeah, not only can I do pull ups, but I can make them harder and they're really easy. Incredible strengths. Now do both your boys enjoy it equally or does one like it more than the other? Um, I think, well, I think Ethan's actually taken to it a bit more, just because Everett's so hard on himself and he's three years younger. So it's like, he's trying to do all the stuff his brother can do, um, and stay up, you know, in his class and, you know, he kind of struggles and, and so he gets really pissed off, uh, when he can't like do a certain move and then, um, the coach is trying to coach him and he's just like, wow, I can't do it. I'm like, buddy, you got to keep trying. I know, it's so strange. It's weird. I don't know where, by the way, can you, can you step back a little bit? I want to see your shirt. I just want to say, oh, wow. Look at that. That's a weird looking clown. They put a clown nose on a snake. That's pretty weird. I don't know. It's some tiring clown. I don't know. I just looked like a cool shirt. Yeah, that's, I like that shirt. It's pretty cool. Yeah, dude. So this weekend was my grandfather's. I told you that's right. Did you write the speech? So, uh, I wrote the speech and obviously I couldn't go right because I, you know, whatever, bat soup disease, but I, uh, I came here to the studio, Doug recorded me and they played it at his birthday. So my cousin calls me face times me and he says, Oh, they're about to play your speech. Right. So he, he's pointing at my grandfather and my grandfather's just balling. It was so, it was, he was, he was crying and then my grandmother was crying. Oh man. It was, it was really, really incredible to see and 90 years, right? My grandfather was 90 years old and his story is so crazy when you think about it. Like he came, he went from Sicily to Venezuela. That's where he went first because he had to find a way to make money while his wife was in Sicily still. He would send money back. Then he went to America. Then my grandmother got on a boat because they couldn't afford planes or, you know, airplane ticket. She got on a boat with two kids. My mom, which was a baby and my uncle, who was, I think, uh, he must have been two or three. So three year old and an infant. My grandma speaks no English whatsoever, gets on a boat and comes all the way over here and basically survives and feeds the kids like hard cheese and salami because that's all they had. Comes all the way over and my grandfather, you know, I mean, he started a legacy. He's got four kids, 13 grandkids, 13 great grandkids, plus two more on the way, all because he had the bravery to do that. Did your parents meet here in the States? No. So my mom came here, obviously, when she was a baby. And then when she turned 18, she went to Italy, to Sicily, to visit, you know, the family. And that's where she met my dad. Actually, what happened was she went to a family party. So she's 18 years old, right? So she's at this, or 19 at this family party. My dad, could they have a, they have cousins that are friends or something like that. So they all were at the same party. So my dad's at the party and he sees my mom and he's like, Oh my gosh, I love her. So he tells his cousin, he doesn't even talk to her, tells his cousin to tell my mom that he's interested in dating her. My mom remembers him because she saw him at the party. So she agreed. So this is how they, this is literally how they dated. So they agreed they were engaged because this is how old school they are. You ain't going out unless you're engaged. You can't even go out once. Oh, wow. Engaged. Then they would go out on dates and the way, would you guys ever watch The Godfather when, you know, Michael Corleone goes to Sicily, meets Apollonia, her name was, the girl, remember the Sicilian girl that he meets and they're going, and they're going, anyway, it's part two. It's Godfather part two great scene and they're going for a walk and that shows them walking and then behind them is literally parents, the whole family. Oh, this was what my dad and my mom did. They would go for walks. This is how they dated and then behind them were grandparents, parents and uncles, no pressure. Like a crowd of people would follow them. And my mom tells a story. She says that I asked my mom, what was it? What about your first kiss? Like, did you guys have a first kiss before you actually got married? She goes, oh yeah. She goes, we were walking with the whole family following us. We turned the corner so that we were around the corner and your dad grabbed me and gave me a kiss. And she said, and I got, I got, she says, I got so nervous. I almost threw up. I got nauseous because I thought my father would find out and I would get in so much trouble, but nobody ever, nobody ever found out. So yeah, no, that's a, that's a true story. But yeah, so, you know, my grandfather got, and then he calls, you know, after, after it was done, you know, I got to talk to him on FaceTime and he's, you know, basically I'm his favorite grandchild. So I'm just kidding, but he's solidified it. Yeah, no, but he was just, he's just, you don't, you don't know what you do for me. It's all about thought. And he's, you know, he's crying. It's the thing about my grandfather that I love more than anything. I even said this in the speech that I did. My grandfather is one of the most proud, tough, like, he's just like one of those just tough macho, proud Sicilian men, but there isn't a single family event, not one where my grandfather, within five minutes, does he cry? If it's a, if it's celebrating anything, I don't care. Could be literally my cousin drew a picture that everybody's looking at. He'll be in the back and you'll see him. He'll, he'll have his glasses. I might meet my cousin. Sep used to laugh at this. Here he goes. Watch this. And he'd be in the back. He'd lift up his glasses. He'd start cussing under his breath because he'd be pissed off that he's crying. And you'd hear him go, God damn it, son of a bitch. Wipe his eyes. Oh, I can't. And then he'd walk away every single event, but I love that about him. Did you make a drinking game out of that? But it was, it was, it was very nice. I wish I was there. The family was there, but Hey, speaking of cool proud moments, I saw a T nation holler at you. Man, that's awesome. Oh yeah. They put the resistance. Yeah. Finally recognize. Well, I do want to say this about T nation is that, uh, and we've said this before on the show, one of the better, I guess, fitness and health sites that you'll find. They typically science based. Oh yeah. They've been, the articles they've been putting out for a long time. I mean, we've been, they're one of the better ones for sure. Good information. So to have them recommend the resistance training revolution was a huge honor because I respect them. I, I really do. Here's the funny thing. Super cool. Here's the funny thing though. I'm going to call you guys out over at T nation. So Adam sends a picture. Was it you that saw first? Yeah, sends a screenshot of the record that they recommended the resistance training revolution. So I'm like, why don't I follow them on Instagram? I couldn't look them up. I looked them up, type them up, couldn't find them. I'm like, what? So then I went to the mine pump Instagram page, looked them up and there they were. So I'm like, they block me. So it must have blocked me a long time ago for some reason. I wonder why I must have got on under one of their posts and promoted one of our programs or something like that. Who knows? Yeah. I don't know why that would sometimes say, I'm sure it's like, like, what happened with that company eat to evolve, right? It's probably somebody who's, you know, doesn't know who you are and just sees one thing and then decides, oh, we're going to block because of that. Yeah. So I messaged them from the mine pump page and then they unblock me. So you know who blocks everybody too? Michael Herne. Michael Herne is a big blocker. He's a big blocker. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he blocked you? Yeah. I've been blocked by him for a long time. That's so funny. I talked to him all the time. What'd you do to him? I don't even know. I didn't do anything. I don't think I ever said anything about competing. Hotty. That's why I got to block this guy. Yeah. There's only been a handful of people that have ever blocked me. Michael Herne is one of them. Bradley Martin was and then Joe Donnelly. Joe Donnelly. Yeah. Oh, no, no. He blocked all of us. And what's his face that you always used to make fun of? Joey Swoll. Oh, gosh. Oh, Swolls. Yeah. That's the only one that blocked me. I like him for his investment. He didn't like my impersonations, apparently. I like his investment advice, Joey Swoll. Literally, my favorite thing that's ever happened on the internet. Brilliant. Yeah, he's brilliant. Yeah, I saved that. I saved that. Where are they now? Do you know what's going on with him now? I don't know. Who the hell knows? They're still making money scamming people on the internet somewhere. So crappy supplements. Let's be honest. Yeah. Well, I remember he, I think he was a part of that one company, Rye Supplements, that right afterwards, after the big fall of shreds, I thought I saw it. Him and Bill Zarian, I think, became buddies, which is always interesting for me to watch. These influencer people start to connect with each other. He wrote a book recently. You know that? Who? Dan Bilzerian. Did he really? What's it? What is it about? Probably his life. Yeah. Gambling and girls and partying. Like I'm tired of banging. Yeah. Do you guys think that? Obviously, we don't know the guys. This is pure speculation. But do you think he's actually a happy person? Or do you think he's not? No. No. I think that temporarily maybe, you know, but I think after you've kind of done it all, we talked about this off-air a while back. Like, you know, part of... Oh my God, you're right. Look at that. Hold on. The title of the book, Rich and Thick with Chicks. I knew it. Rich and Thick with Chicks. Wow, dude. Hey, listen, ladies. That's solid. Ladies, if you meet a guy and you go over his apartment for the first time and this book is in his bookshelf, get the fuck out of there. Quickly. You better run. Yeah. Or don't drink anything. So you don't think he's happy, huh? No. He does seem like he's medicating, right? To try to distract himself with the chicks. Or either that or he's just a brilliant social media person. And it's just a... I think there's a little bit of brilliance there with him, too. I don't want to not give him credit where credit's due. I think that he saw the opportunity in that space early on. I mean, he was the first big, like, I don't know what you would playboy on Instagram. He's the closest to Hugh Halfner we've seen since. I mean, so I'll give him that. Yeah, I agree with that. But I also think, too, that part of... For personally, personally for me, half of the enjoyment of monetary things that he has a ton of is the pursuit of it and the struggle. The struggle, the failure, like having to get back up five or six times before it finally works for you. And so I think that when you have that kind of money, success and fame, I just feel like you lose part of that. It's so easy. It's so easy to obtain all those things. It would be interesting to see what he needs to do in order to get a rise out of... How to make something challenging. It's challenging for me. Also, the other thing, too. Again, I don't know the guy, which is based off of his social media. But for me, all that monetary success would actually be very sad if I didn't have family and meaningful people in my life to share it with. It would mean so little. If anything, I would feel more sad that I have money and all the stuff and I don't have those people to share it with. It's just overindulgence. It's like eating all of the junk food and all of the candy all the time. It's just not going to tip through you. I think that is probably fun. I mean, I'm sure he went on a run there where he probably did feel like life was amazing. Reminds me of that Twilight Zone episode I've brought up many times where the guy, what a great, by the way, this is a great episode. I've talked about it before. In this particular Twilight Zone, great, great old series, if you like twists and great writing. And there's this guy that dies where he gets shot in a shootout. He's a bank robber. Then he is presented with this looks like an angel, this guy in a white suit. And he goes, hey, welcome. He goes, you can have anything you want. And first he doesn't believe him. And then he believes him because he's got a palace. He gets all the money and girls. He goes and gambles. Every time he throws out the dice, he wins. And then it's like three months later, they show the guy and he's like, you know, obviously he hasn't shaved. He's depressed. He rolls the dice. He wins. He's like, this sucks. No matter what I do, I get everything. There's no thrill. There's no risk. There's no whatever. Then he calls the angel back and he goes, this is Terry's. I couldn't imagine. I never would imagine that heaven was like this. And the angel goes, who told you this was heaven? And he does this evil laugh. As if to say this is hell. Yeah. It's really, really, you know, really interesting. No, that's a great way. Yeah. Anyway, good stuff. Hey, I read something very interesting about CBD. I wanted to tell you guys. Okay. So, disclaimer, this is a study. So we'll post the link up so everybody knows I'm not trying to be crazy or whatever. But here's the title of the study, cannabidiol. That's the name for CBD. So cannabidiol inhibits SARS-CoV-2 replication and promotes the host innate immune response. What? So CBD, we've known for a long time to have antiviral properties and it seems to have antiviral properties for COVID as well. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So it's a really interesting study. They're actually doing further studies to see if this actually works. It's, you know, actually works in people. What is CBD not good for? I know, it's true. They've been able to connect it to everything. That's true, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, but it's very interesting that now CBD, THC didn't show this, although THC is anti-inflammatory. It was just the CBD. Now here's the thing. I had read this a while ago. So back when I was sick, I was also taking the NED on a regular basis. I didn't tell anybody because I don't want to promote any false whatever, but I was taking on a regular basis that was kind of part of the whole. I didn't. I wish I didn't know. Part of the whole thing. But interesting, right? Isn't it interesting? It's the adaptogenic type of herbs and things that are now kind of getting a lot more publicity. It's like, there's just so much benefit to them. And you see that too in all the different types of medicinal mushrooms and CBD. It's like, if you keep taking them sort of on the regular, it helps to kind of, even everything out, it seems. Speaking of which, I saw that documentary Fantastic Fun Guy. Oh, you did? Yeah. What'd you think? Wow. I started watching it too. Wow. Isn't it a trip? Yeah. Super good. I was just at the part where they talk about how they communicate to all the trees and everything like that. Well, I mean, it's very interesting because there's potential applications for creating fungi that eat pollution, that eat oil that we spill in the ocean. There's that guy that modified a fungi to become a pesticide. So instead of spraying chemicals to get rid of pests, you just, this fungi that really didn't have any negative effects on humans, but it'll kill termites and stuff like that. And then they got into the psychedelic mushrooms and the research behind that. That was mind-blowing. I haven't got to that part yet. That really blew me away. They actually showed two people who were terminal, so cancer. So there's a woman who had terminal cancer and then a man who had terminal prostate cancer. And they signed up for this study. So one of the hallmarks of having a terminal disease is the severe anxiety and fear that surround it, right? Because you have to face your own mortality. Your doctors are like, you're not going to make it. So all of a sudden, you're like, oh my God. So people just get tremendous fear, anxiety, and depression. And so what they did with the study is they did some therapy sessions leading up to the session. Then they gave them the mushrooms. They put, you know, blindfold on them, headphones. And then the therapist was there, very safe environment, talking the person through what they were going through. And one of the guys that showed this one man, and he's after one session after he was done, and this guy had severe anxiety. He was treated, he couldn't control it. After one session, he says, I'm at peace now. It brought him so much quality of life. He goes, I'm not afraid of dying. He's like, I'm at peace. And you can see it in his face. Wow. And they filmed this session. And he's like crying. And you can tell he's processing. Really crazy. I was telling Jessica as we're watching it, I don't think people realize the potential revolution this could have for mental health. I feel like the news has slowed down around that. There was like just like a year or two ago, I feel like it was ramping up like crazy. I felt like every other podcast episode, you were sharing new study comes out or new state gets on board, decriminalizes like, I haven't heard, I haven't heard much. There's still a lot of studies going on. And I didn't know this, but in the 60s and 50s and 60s before they, they, you know, scheduled magic mushrooms and LSD and all of the psychedelics. So illegal that you can't study them. Right before that happened, it was, there was research was exploding, right? So psychiatrists were, and scientists were studying it like crazy. You know, one of the first things they found with psychedelic research in this, I think it was in the 60s, they found it to be effective at curing people of, get this alcoholism. So alcoholics, people who had, were struggling with alcoholism. I've heard about that for smoking. I've heard it's cured people from being addicted to cigarettes. I don't know. I'm not familiar with those, but these were old studies of alcoholism. That's one of the hardest things to kick. And apparently these people did these sessions and many of them quit alcohol. Boom. Right there on the spot. It seems like it's like the ultimate introspective therapy. It's like you, you sort of put yourself, you assess everything that, you know, all the habits, all the things that you do. Like even Paul Stambs, his story was pretty incredible that he grew up stuttering. Yeah. Like, like couldn't stop stuttering. And this whole family, you know, where all these intellects and went to all these Ivy League schools and all this, and he just had this horrific like stuttering problem and then had, you know, a heavy dose of psilocybin and came to terms with it and was just like, I'm just not going to do this anymore. And then never stuttered again. I know. Now, isn't the science around it that like it interrupts these pathways? Is that what it is? Like the things like the stuttering or the addictive, it's like part of that is you've got this same pathway that you've, this pattern in your brain. Yeah. That is just always firing. And then what it supposedly opens up. So there's a couple theories. They do show that, right? They do show that it creates new neural pathways or patterns in the brain. And it does so pretty effectively, which is good, right? That shows that whatever pattern or thought process you have, that this loop, for example, if you have like PTSD, for example, you have a really, really terrible event that happens. What happens to get solidified in the reactive part of the brain. And then let's say every time you hear a helicopter go off, it reminds you of being in Vietnam or whatever in war. And you, and you can't interrupt it because it happens in the part of the brain that reacts faster than the part of the brain that's logical. So before, before you even realize that you're having this, this physical reaction, it's too late. You're already in the middle of it. And now it's like, oh, how do I stop it? So these studies show that it does change these patterns. So it can interrupt that. But then there's this other theory, and it's probably both of my, that's in my opinion. The other theory is that in order to make profound changes in your life, you either A, have to do it very slowly. We talk about this, right? Developing discipline, one little step at a time. It takes a long time. It's a lot of hard work, blah, blah, blah. The other way is by having an epiphany where you have like this big spiritual like awakening event, which I mean, how do you recreate that? Right? So what these, what these substances are doing for people, because literally one, I think it was one-third of all the people in these studies that we've seen so far, if I'm not mistaken, one-third or one-fourth, something like that, said that it was the most profound experience of their entire lives. So it's like, imagine having an epiphany like that. It's so profound. And, you know, that might be enough to get you to say, I'm going to quit, you know, doing drugs or I'm going to, you know, quit being an asshole or whatever. So I don't know, man. Really, really remarkable. Highly recommend. Yeah. Speaking of movies, did you guys watch Suicide Squad, the new one? Anybody? I did. I watched it. I'm laughing because this is what I want us to do. I would like, and I think Doug's an agreeance with me too, because did you try and watch Suicide Kings too? Yeah, I got about 20 minutes in, and then I had to kind of turn it off. So here's, I also, I'll try it out, Sal. I don't like it, Justin. I don't know, dude. I also watched his stand-up comedian. I didn't think it was funny at all either. I want, what I want to try, I want to try with you is I want you to give me the next bad movie, the next movie you don't like. I want to try that one. I just want to try it out. I just want to see what happens. You know, Rotten Tomatoes gave it 91. 91% Reverse recommendations. Rotten Tomatoes is usually pretty, pretty odd. No, it is normally, especially if they both. It was like 88 or 91. It was got a really high rating. Yeah, normally those are pretty, pretty accurate. I don't know, maybe because I was in a crappy mood and I watched it, or maybe because I already have this idea when you recommend it's probably going to be bad, but normally that would be the opposite. I go into these with low expectations. If you recommended it, I'm like, probably not going to be good. Did you watch the whole thing? Most of it. I got it. Really? You didn't think it was funny? You didn't think it was creative? I mean, one, I didn't think it was that much different than the first one as far as the creative part. I mean, same type of concept, right? Oh, the first one sucked. Yeah. I just, I thought they were just okay. You know, I didn't think it was good. I mean, DC just kind of sucks compared to Marvel in my opinion. DC is just not up to Marvel. You know what though? It depends, dude. The Batman, there's some Batman, you know, installments that have been phenomenal. No, that's true. In fact, I would say of all the superhero films, the best ones were some of the Batman's of all of them. Yeah. Batman's always been solid, but I mean, they've gone real cheesy and hokey too. So I like, yeah. Is it Nolan is like the one with Christian Bale? I liked that version because it was darker. And the Joker, what about the recent Joker? That was incredible. I actually never finished that. Why? Because it was so heavy. Oh, disturbing. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, good though, right? So I'm not saying I didn't want not finish it because I thought it was bad. It was just, it was heavy. And I was like, it was well done. Yeah, that was a well done movie. Yeah. I mean, any movie where I think it was that I had to turn it off because it was gay. I was depressing. Yeah. It really made you feel like, yeah, no, it invoked that emotion, that much emotion in me. You know, it's well written and well done then. Well, so this, because this suicide squad, essentially, and I like it when, when producers do this with superhero films, they either either you take it very seriously, which is tough. If you take it very seriously, it's hard to make a superhero film good when you take it super serious. I think Batman has the best story and it's dark and it's, you know, it's somewhat kind of relatable because he doesn't have superpowers. But you know why? Because he has the best villains. Yes. You can write so much better stories when you have all kinds of different awesome villains. Is that what it is? You think it's more about the villains than the superhero? I think of all the villains in all superhero, like all comic books, right? Of all the villains, I think the Joker is the best. And the, because he's, he's really evil. He's really dark. Like if you read, if you see the comics, he is fucked up evil, like very, very twisted and whatever. So I think I agree with you. He's the epitome of chaos. Yeah. So I think they nailed it a few times when they, you know, had him just, just out to destroy everything, burn the world. Yeah. Now the other thing that, the other side is I like it when they make superhero movies tongue in cheek and they poke fun at themselves, which is what this one did. Who did that the best? See, what's, what was the one with Ryan Reynolds? I can't think of that. Oh, Deadpool. Yes. Yeah. So Deadpool did a good. I love Deadpool. Deadpool was fantastic. And I think that, uh, Guardians, uh, which was also good. Yeah. Yeah. Was that, is that DC? No, that's not DC. No, that's Marvel. Oh, okay. Yeah. Both those are Marvel. Yeah. So the tongue in cheek stuff I, I, uh, you know, enjoy, but there you go. They, they're Marvel did, did that. And I just think they do it way better than DC, obviously those, because those two, I thought those were hilarious. Those are really, really good. Yeah. Oh, you know what I wanted to ask you, um, you don't remember how we had that discussion on dating apps. And I said, Oh, I wonder if it's giving people too many options. Oh yeah. We talked about it. Did you get, I got some DMs on that. Oh, I didn't know. So I had, I actually had people tell me that they, they agreed that they, that it was too many options. I had guys message me and saying, no, what you said, I tend to fall into where I don't put too many, I don't like put too much focus on one person because I know I could just meet up with someone else. So I actually had some people say that they, they agreed with that. The question is, I don't know if that's a bad thing. Is it? That's a good question. Right. I mean, is that necessarily a bad thing that you don't get all hung up on one because you know, there's plenty more options out there. Well, if it's always about searching for the new one, then it could be, right? Cause you could miss out on the one that you lost. I think all in all, I think that there, it's, it's improved people's ability to find each other than anything else. I would agree with that. Yeah. I also had somebody message me and say that they speculate that there's a lot of married people who go on dating apps when they're kind of unhappy to see what else is out there. Just to see like who's going to bite. Yeah. Check their options for that. I still got it. This isn't much of an upgrade. I'm not going to leave. Dude, I read a story. So trip off this. I read a story of a husband and wife that did that and matched each other. Oh yeah. So the guy went, that's the ultimate. Yeah. Like accidentally. Yeah. He went on the app. The wife did too. Then they mad. How do you get, can't get mad, can you? I don't know. I mean, you both get mad and you're like, well, I guess, you know, it's a destiny. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, either that's going to be like an amazing like makeup sex realization. Do you guys have any, do you guys have any family or friends right now that are close to you that that's how they met? I'm trying to think how my cousins who just got married. My mom and her husband did. That's how they met. Oh, my brother. I think that's how my brother met his wife. I think he met her on a dating app if I'm not mistaken. And she's lovely, wonderful. They're the ones that just had a baby. So yeah. I definitely think it's got to help. I mean, for you to be able to screen a lot. I mean, because how many times have you dated somebody and, you know, found out either weeks or months later that you were dating them that there was there's just like one of those things. It's like, oh my God, this will never get past this. Right. There's another show on Netflix right now. I got kind of sucked into that was all about arranged marriages with, you know, the Indian culture. And it's just interesting to see like, so they, they basically seek out somebody to kind of match them with somebody else. And it's, you know, they limit the options down very much to where it's like you get almost like one interaction. And then after that, it's like either, yes, I'm going to keep her soon. This person or no. And, and then it like quickly leads to marriage, like really fast. And it's fascinating to see like, you know, how the family, all the family gets it all. It's kind of like what you're talking about. So earlier, you know, the old school kind of approach, you know, it's weird is that those that the statistics on the, and I'm sure there's a million reasons why it isn't a success rate really high. I'm very high. Well, they're very high actually success based on staying together. Yeah. And I think it's more expectations. I remember I, I read an article on this that for a long time marriage was, it was like, okay, we're going to agree to be married. We're going to agree to raise a family. And you're this, this, you aren't supposed to complete me and make me feel like, you know, like I'm whole now, right? It's just, we're just married. And this is what we do. And we work it out, whatever. And then that change to you have to marry someone you're totally in love with. And it has to be like that all the time. And they have to totally complete you. It's all based on the feeling the whole time. Yeah. And then the article said that that's one of the reasons why divorce rates got so high is because all of a sudden people were like, you don't complete me. You don't make me whole. You don't make me happy. You know, which I could see some truth in that. I mean, I could see that. Well, I mean, that's not true though. I mean, that's not what makes a successful marriage. A good partner and a good teammate, I think that's why you've gotten, they've gotten away from that where if your parents are matching you up, I imagine that's how they were doing it. I mean, you're looking for compatibility with other families and things like that, things that you guys align with, which makes sense. But I think we've romanticized it over years with your, you know, your romantic movies and stuff like that. It's supposed to be this love at first sight and sweep you off your feet. And you're always going to feel that way. Yeah. Yeah. You're always going to like it. All expectation based, you know, the minute always disappoints. Absolutely. Speaking of, uh, expectations, uh, I was, I'm very excited because the pumpkin spice gold juice, you know, it's funny. Get out your arms, everybody. No, I was, isn't it early for that? Isn't it feel early? Or we start, that's a fall thing. It's like, uh, it's breezy right now. Every year it starts to get pushed back further and further. Why not make it a permanent flavor? It's so good. That's what I think. There's got to be a strategy to that. I feel like there's going to be a strategy of taking it away and then bringing it back. I can't wait, dude. I think it's kind of novel too, you know, because if you had that all the time, I don't think, uh, you know, get old, I think. I love it. It used to be like a fall heading into winter type of thing that those are the flavors of fall. And now, I mean, where are we at right now? It's like we're in the middle of summer. Yeah. Yeah, we're not even out in summer yet. I crack up because it's like when you start seeing like all the stores, when they start selling stuff way early for the holidays, like I think we've already, we've already got Halloween stuff. It's your Christmas decorations. You know, like, dude, it's like July. I love it, man. With the almond milk, warm. No, it's the best. No, it's one of my favorites. I'm teasing right now that it's, I just think it's funny because I've seen it. I start to see Starbucks and all these guys starting it earlier and earlier every year, but it is one of the best flavors. Oh, I want to tell you, Justin, because I know you're, you're into like Disney, uh, like facts and stuff and weird stuff about Disneyland and Disney World. Did you know that they have a protocol for people who, uh, sprinkle cremated remains of loved ones at the park? Huh? They have a protocol. Do they do it over like the cemetery or what? No, I think you do it like on the ride. You do it in the park and they have a whole, they have a whole protocol. So if you contact Disney and you're like, listen, my, my mom was a huge Disney fan and her dream, you know, her last wish was to spread her remains at Disneyland. Um, you know, we, I've never thought about how popular that probably is. Yeah. That's actually probably really popular. Yeah. It's very interesting, isn't it? And there's a name for it. I got to look it up because I actually wrote it down, but you, you actually go there and they have this, this, this thing that they, like a ceremony and everything. Yeah. It's, it, let me see. It's, uh, it's, let me see what they call it. I want to be packed into one of those cannons in Pirates of Caribbean. Shot out. Blast me out of everybody. Here it is. Here it is. About once a month, there's a guest can scatter the remains of a loved one somewhere in the park and the park apparently has, uh, like a special thing for it. And it's, it says no code is kept more under wraps at Walt Disney World in Disneyland than the call for a HEPA cleanup, H-E-P-A cleanup. It means that once again, a park guest that scattered the cremated, cremated ashes of a loved one somewhere in the park and an ultra fine vacuum cleaner is needed to suck them up. What? So they go and clean it up afterwards. So I don't get it. Okay. So let's say, uh, so I wanted to spread someone's ashes of my family at Disney. Do I call them or I just do it and they find out? I don't understand. What's the- I think you're supposed to tell them, but that's a good point. I wonder how many people do it and don't say anything. Yeah. Yeah. How many people do it anyway? Yeah. They just put it in their thermos. Yeah. Do you imagine that? Like you're spring and then the wind gets up. What do you think are like the top five places that people want to be cremated and sprinkled over? What do you think? Ocean's got to be up there. Got to be there. Grand Canyon, I think, would be one. Oh, you think so? That's a good one. Yeah, that'd be a cool place. I definitely think Ocean's got to be like one of the top for sure, right? Yeah. Yeah, Ocean. I bet Disney's up there for lakes. I wouldn't even have thought that till you brought it up, but I'm like, dude, I know so many people that are like super Disney fans. I'm hard. If I die and get cremated, what I'm going to put this on air, what I want you guys to do is I want you to take my remains and sprinkle a little bit in your post-workout shake. And just a little bit. Just put a little sprinkle so I can become healthy. Cheers to the homey. So I can help heal, grow your muscles. Now, if you guys were all cremated, where would you want to be sprinkled? Obviously not in pre-workout, I think. Not in pre-workout, post-workout. I want to be in an Elon Musk rocket to Mars. Take me all the way. That's not realistic. Take me all the way. I know. That's not realistic. Do you have a place? I feel like you would be like, take me up to the redwood trees somewhere. Some mountain-esque place that you love going to. Yeah, that's true. I don't know. I'd be up there. I never really thought about that. Doug, you're the closest to this, so what would you pick? How do you know? That might not be true. Actually, based off of the way things are going, it is not true. That would be the last one. You are the last one standing, bro. Doug punches viruses in the face. I've given a very little thought as far as that is concerned, because quite frankly, I don't think I'd care, honestly. Now, do you guys know if you're going to be cremated or not? No, I'm not. I don't think I'll be cremated. You're like, no. I don't actually, okay. I don't care, but I actually had this conversation with my parents once. We were talking, and I said, God, I said, why don't people just get cremated? Like, who cares? My mom literally lost her mind. Oh, wow. Lost her mind. Don't you ever do that. I would never do that. So I'm like, okay, mom, sorry. So, yeah, it was a big deal for her. Yeah, I think I'd be cremated. You want to be cremated? Yeah. Really? Cheaper, easier. Is it cheaper? Really, yeah. It is? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Much cheaper. Much cheaper. There's it. There's. Yeah, all you need is a little urn. You can get a coffee can and do it like, see, that'd be the big Lebowski. That'd be the moves for me. Put me in a coffee can. Hey, we put him in the chair over here while we're podcasting. Hey, Justin, what do you think? He has nothing to say. I'm sure. There's it. I forgot what culture, but there's a culture that might be in New Zealand, where if you die, they throw you off into the ocean for sharks. So to eat. And that's part of their custom. You know what the ultimate would be for me is like an old Viking where you put the body on one of those rafts and then you set it on fire. Oh, with a bow? Yeah, that'd be sick. Like Robin Hood. Did you a speaking to Elon? Did you see that? He said that he'll probably put someone on the moon by 2024. I think over the next three years. Did you see that? No, I didn't see that. So that's we're going to put like a hotel up there. Like what's the plan? No, by 2024, by 2024, he says that he'll probably land humans on the moon before, but before on 2024. Wow. I know that's around. It's crazy. I know. Well, yeah, but what will they do? Is it going to be landing and come right back? Are they going to build something out there? Like, no, you just land and come back, dude. Dude, the anti gravity club. Yeah, what? Yeah, everybody's going up there to get some anti gravity action. I mean, that's how many people that's the appeal, right? Has there only been two people on the moon? How many people have been on the moon? That's a you question. I have no, I don't know how many people. I don't know. Is it like, yeah, I have no idea. Yeah, it's like four or six people. I guess I have no idea. I'm pretty sure the U.S. is the only country that's been on the moon, right? According to this. No, I think Russians have been up there after. They have. 12? So 12. What countries, Doug, have been on on the moon? I've actually put a human being on the moon. Let me see. You mean after we won that race, like people didn't keep going through with it to try and get there? Of course not. It was it because then it's not cool anymore. No, you know. Someone already did it. So it's all Americans. Boom. Yeah, all Americans. Wow. There you go. So, okay, so here's a deal. I was telling Jessica this because we, what were we watching? We're watching something and that came up. She's like, why don't why doesn't anybody care about going to the moon anymore? I'm like, okay, this was during the Cold War and it was a wonderful way for us to flex, to show the Soviets that we can, if we can land somebody on the moon, we can send a rocket in your backyard and set off a nuke. And that's what it was all about. Once we did it, it was over. Nobody cared anymore. Yeah. And now they have a supersonic nuclear weapon that they use flexed. Cool. Yeah. That's funny to me that so much energy, effort, money, resources, and time went into getting there. And then once it happened, like no one's given a shit after that. No, there's because there's no financial gain from it. The only gain was militarily and, you know, to show your power, also source of national pride. You got to remember at that time, kids literally in school were drilled on a nuclear attack. So in school, if you're a kid, they literally would do drills where kids had to, oh, you know, this is what we do, get into the desk, cover your neck, and Doug remembers, I'm sure. This was, I'm serious. Never did one. You're lying. Never did one. Really? Anyway. So this was a big thing that a lot of kids in schools did. So it was, people were terrified. So it's like, what a great way to bring out national pride and also show the Soviets that we have the technology, we have the means. Oh, no, I guess. So isn't there hysteria over Sputnik when they saw the satellite coming over and everybody like freaked out? Well, yeah, the Russians had a satellite that floated above us. I mean, I get it, but the thing that I think is crazy is just that that much energy and effort and then to just shut it all down because we won the race and it's all over. You would think that you would still want to go do it just to prove that you could do it too. There's no oil on the moon, that's why. Yeah, exactly. Well, wasn't there talk about like some of the soil from the moon being used for some kind of converted energy? No, geez, man. No, I had heard about that. But I think there's more plausibility in like a meteor. I heard that there's some crazy valuable minerals on some of the meteors that they're trying to mine. Yeah, wasn't there a meteor that was made of pure diamond or something like that? Yeah, yeah. Exactly, planets, I thought. Maybe you're right. I don't know. I don't know. Hey, real quick, I hope you're enjoying the show. Head over to drinkolipop.com forward slash mine pump. So, olipop are sodas essentially that have no sugar and that are good for your gut. They actually have compounds in them that help with gut health. I'm not making this up. They have great flavors, strawberry, orange, root beer, cola flavor, but they're no sugar. Again, low calorie, good for your gut. This stuff's actually quite amazing. Head over to drinkolipop.com forward slash mine pump. Use the code mine pump and get 15% off your order. By the way, there's a new flavor, grape flavor, or like I like to say purple flavor. It's really, really good. Back to the show. First question is from Caitlyn T. Armstrong. What is a proper full range of motion for a squat? Is it bad to lock out your knees? Okay, so the answer I'm going to give is actually the answer for proper range of motion for any exercise. So the proper range of motion is the fullest range of motion that you have complete control, strength, and stability to support. If that means that the most you can do is a half squat, because anything outside of a half squat, you lose stability, you lose strength, you lose balance, then that means that you have to train in that half squat. And then your goal is to improve that functional range of motion, improve your ability to go deeper while maintaining stability and control. This is true for all exercises. Now the second part about locking out your knees, there's nothing wrong with straightening your legs up at the top of a squat. Now here's the problem. If you lock your knees and relax your muscles so that the joints are supporting the weight, that's the problem. So it's like if I lock my elbows out on the end of a push-up, and then I relax my body and allow my joint being locked out to support me, well, that's the issue. But if I straighten my arms out or straighten my legs out and then stay tight with my muscles, nothing wrong with that whatsoever. Now the only... Yeah, any of the joints that you're going to lock out and not support your muscles is going to be an issue. I mean, this is why if you're standing up in a wedding and they tell you not to lock your knees, you might pass out. Like there's all kinds of issues you're going to run into. But if you can support yourself with muscles in the lockout, obviously that's something to aspire to achieve. Now the only thing I don't like about that answer, even though it's the right one, is that somebody will hear strength, stability, and control and think that because they can do it, even if their form breaks down, that they still are okay. Yeah, no. In other words, you'll see someone they'll do a squat and they can get ass to grass, but they also round their shoulders, their forward head, their chest falls way over their knees. The bar path now travels in front of the knees. The heels might raise up a little bit, but they technically can do it. They can get down there. And so I think that you have to elaborate a little bit on what strength and stability and control really means. It means you should be able to perform that movement with proper form all the way through without any breakdown, because even though you may be able to get deeper in the squat, if there's any breakdown in your form during that time, you've got to stop at that point. And so I think that's where people kind of mess up is they think they see somebody go ass to grass and go, I can get down there, but they also heels are raising, and like I said, forward shoulder and head and the bar path is now traveling in front of the knees. And so that's where I think this gets a little nuanced is you may think that you're able to go that deep, but for some people they can't do that with proper form. No, you can have a full range of motion without good control and stability. And that's when the problem... Here's the deal. There are no dangerous exercises per se. There's only dangerous technique form, lack of control, lack of stability. So it could be a barbell curl, one of the most basic exercises that exists. If you lack the control and stability for some reason in your elbow, then a barbell curl now becomes dangerous. Then we can pick an exercise that's extremely technical and overhead squat, right? So this is where you have like a... Doing a snatch, you have a barbell up above your head, arms locked out, and you do a full squat. Very technical, requires excellent control, stability and mobility. If you have all those prerequisites, if you have perfect form, perfect control, very safe exercise. Now, some exercises require more prerequisites than others, right? Some of them are much more technical. A squat is a pretty technical exercise. But if you can do a full range of motion squat, and you're doing it perfect, and you've got the control, everything's tight, you own... Essentially, you own every part of the movement, then it's perfectly safe, and it's better to train with the full range of motion. There's just more benefits that you derive from it. Do you think it's become a really technical exercise because it's actually a fundamental movement that most of us have lost? Oh yeah. The guys at Squat University did a really good post like a couple of weeks ago, and I remember reading it and going like, I totally agree with this. And that way, and they were talking about just getting back to a place where that is a normal movement. Instead of... Stop looking at it like this great strength-building exercise that people should do to get big massive legs and stuff, and it's just we should all have this ability to be able to sit down in that squatted position, and the truth is we've lost that ability, and because we've lost that ability, it now makes that exercise such a technical, difficult movement because there's so many problems that people have with getting down in that position. Oh, totally. I mean, okay, look at another movement pattern that humans literally evolved to do. There's very few things that humans do physically better than other animals. One of them is run. Okay, we actually, in the animal kingdom, are some of the best distance travelers that you'll find anywhere. You can actually outtrack most animals for distance, and this is because of the way we evolve. We've got these big knees, these huge glutes. We reduce very little energy when we run. The problem is we forget how to run, so we lose the skill. So then we decide, I'm gonna lace up my shoes and go running, and people, it's the number one thing that injures people is running. But if you ran since you could walk, and you did so barefoot, and you always ran, you never stopped, it would be a very safe, great movement for us. We evolved to do it, but we just stopped. So as far as squatting is concerned, think about it this way. When do you squat ever, anywhere? I mean, you might squat down on the toilet, but even that doesn't look like a squat. People tend to plop down. We don't ever squat, so we just totally lose that movement. Well, this is a bit of an aside, but I was thinking about this, and I know Strong by Science, or Science by Strong, Max Schmarzo, I forget his handle, but he was talking about how we get back into these rec league sports, and after years of not training specifically in an athletic direction, and then jump into it. Meanwhile, let's say you are working out, and let's say you are in the gym constantly, and lifting weights, but you're sticking in the hypertrophy style training, and now you have to explosively move, you have to add all this rotation, and then wonder why all of a sudden these injuries occur, and these joint pain and aches and all that. But it's really like what you maintain and what you train your body for in terms of what you're going to be able to keep up and have a high performance with. Next question is from Nina Worgen. Can you provide recommendations to improve the front rack position? Oh, the front rack position. You know, do you guys, just kind of side, let's go on the side here real quick, do you guys think that this is for most people essential? Do you think this would be beneficial for most people? Do you think it's not really that beneficial unless you, this is like something you want to train? I think to get to a place where you can do the front rack is very essential. I think it's talking about the last question, just it's a fundamental position you should be able to get your shoulders in. And most people can't because they lack the wrist mobility and the shoulder mobility in order to get there. And so I think from that point of view, I think it's very fundamental and it's something that a lot of people struggle to do. That being said, I don't think that you force it. I think you work towards getting to a place where you can do that. And I think just for good shoulder and wrist health, I think you should be able to do that. Yeah, I'd say the biggest thing that tends to hold people back is the wrist mobility, right? Is the wrist and finger mobility? Wrist and shoulders, yeah. Yeah, and there's a lot of stretches and movements you could do with your hands to work on this. If you don't have this mobility, take your time. This is something I have issues with. I don't even train it to be honest with you because I don't really want to spend the time working on it. But if I did, I would imagine it would probably take me at least six months of concentrated focused effort to be able to get in that position. Because if I did it now, there's no way. It would totally hurt my wrist. I think it's sort of a keystone exercise in terms of unlocking a lot more exercises you can include in your programming, especially if you're getting into any kind of Olympic lifting or any types of more functional type of exercises as well. But wrist health in general is something that I think a lot of people neglect and it comes back to vitamin YASS. And so to maintain that, I do find a lot of value in that. And there's ways to do it where it's gradual. So if you are able to access kettlebells and start there and just kind of include these front rack kind of carrying exercises and do that instead of going with farmer carries, you can quickly sort of adapt to that position the more that you expose yourself to it. But obviously it has to be gradual and it has to be in a position where your wrist isn't super aggravated. But there's lots of grades of being able to get to the position where you could do a solid front rack, front squat with a barbell. And that is something that you can inspire and achieve. Yeah, I also think it's one of those things that's we're getting, it's getting worse. I just think with phones and computers, it's, we're in that, we're in this time where, you know, God, fast forward 10, 20 years from now and it may be like what we were just talking about with the squat now. Now everybody can't even get their wrist and their shoulders in that position anymore. And so, you know, another one of those areas of, you know, do we just accept that we can't do it and find a crutch and use, you know, straps to hold it there or do the, you know, cross your arms over and just accept that, oh, I don't have the shoulder and wrist mobility or is this a thing that we recognize that, oh, this is something that I wanna be able to do as I get older because of what problems may occur if I don't. And so working towards that I think is important. I just, I mean, I'm not great at it, but it was an area though for, you know, my first half of lifting, I definitely used to cross my arms because I didn't have the good shoulder and wrist mobility to do it. But over time, I've gotten to a place where I can hold the front rack position fairly well, but it takes constant work. Now, what's cool though about and why I like exercises like this and then the pursuit of getting good at it, like the squat, once you get there, so long as you just keep it in the routine, it'll help promote that good wrist and shoulder mobility. You know, so if you get good at just like the deep squat, like I had to do a lot of work on my ankles and my hips to get to a deep squat, now that I did all that work, so long as I keep those deep squats, it keeps good hip health and good ankle health for me. Same thing goes for your wrist and your, that's why this front rack position I think is so great is it might take a little bit of work to get to a place where you can do this well, but once you can do it, so long as you just maintain that exercise in your routine, you should have pretty good wrist and shoulder mobility. Yeah, so here's something you can do to help your, it's very basic, very easy. You can literally get a barbell, get up into the position to where you're in that front rack position and then just hold that for time. But don't relax the wrists in the sense that it's just sitting on the wrist and bending it back. When you're in that position, activate your wrist, actually pull them back and activate the front of the forearms so you're activating the muscles while you're sitting in that position and then hold it for like 15, 20, 30 seconds and practice this on a daily basis. This is just one way to kind of get more comfortable with that position. Yeah, do that. And also if you can get like some small gym towels and wrapping around, you know, the barbell and sort of gradually work your way down. It's to grip it. So you have a neutral grip to start if the wrists are really having a challenge with being able to flex like that. That's a good way to kind of gradually bring them closer to the bar and then really challenge yourself to get your fingers to touch the bar and then maintain that position and just hold it isometrically. Next question is from Furtado No Insta. How much muscle imbalance is normal? Well, if you mean what is common a lot, a lot of muscle imbalance is common. If you mean what is, I guess, ideal, you know, this is different from person to person. I would say you want to be, you want to have a good quality of life and you don't want to have muscle imbalances that cause any dysfunction or pain. So you want to be able to move in your daily life, do normal things, play with your kids, do your workouts and not have any joint pain or problems. One of the easiest ways, by the way, to help, and this isn't the answer for everything, okay? This is just a very general way to kind of help with muscle imbalances is to do a lot of unilateral work, is to just do stuff one arm at a time, one leg at a time. This, although it's not the answer, like I said to everything, it does help a lot because when you, it really does illuminate quite a bit. Like you do a one arm chest press and you may notice like, oh my gosh, I didn't realize my left shoulder raises up so much when I do that or a one arm row or one leg gets step up or toe touch or lateral exercises with one leg at a time, that does illuminate quite a bit. And we've said this before on the podcast, real good rule of thumb is the side that is weaker and less stable, start with that side and then have that side dictate what you do with the other side so that you're not training your good side more than your weaker side. Allow it to catch up. I think it's really common and I don't think anybody is perfectly symmetrical. So in that sense, that's normal, I guess. I think a good goal is to try and minimize the discrepancy from left to right as much as possible. So to Sal's point about doing the unilateral work, I think that's a great way to measure this and pay attention to it. But that's kind of what I'm always looking at is I know that I'm never going to be perfectly symmetrical. I know I'm always going to have a more dominant side than the other side. But I want to minimize the discrepancy from left to right as much as I possibly can. So everything from mobility and strength and control. So what I can do on my left side, I want to be able to do on my right side as close to equal as I can and I think a good goal is to pursue that. Whether you'll ever achieve it, I think it's a good gauge or measure on trying to counter all these imbalances that we all have. But I think it's an impossible pursuit just because I think that's just not how the body works. I think you're going to tend to lean heavily on your dominant side always. But the pursuit of trying to make that as close to evenly as possible, I think is a good goal. Yeah, your body's always going to be compensating and this is just going to change all the time. And so that's why these reassessments are really important to... And this is why we created something like Prime where it's just a very basic test to monitor your joint function and just to see if your abilities are still there to be able to do normal function of the joint. And so every now and then I'm just checking up on that to see what I've been neglecting because inevitably you get into patterns and your body's going to adapt towards those patterns. So to be able to look at that. But my goal is always to maintain a certain level of primal movement patterns as some people call it in terms of squatting, in terms of being able to run, to be able to throw, to be able to jump, or certain abilities I want to maintain. I have to be able to train that because otherwise my body's going to prioritize other things. And so some of these abilities are going to kind of go right out from under you. But yeah, you're always going to have imbalances. That's just inevitable just because we don't do the same exact thing on both sides all day long. It's just a matter of making sure that your priorities are met and also that your joints are fully capable of the kind of range of motion you want and the stability and support. Next question is from BBXH. Can you do social level adult sports such as soccer and bodybuilding or do they conflict? All right, it depends on what you mean by do they conflict, right? Does lifting weights improve your ability to play soccer in other sports? Yes, it does. It can actually make you much faster and more stable and strong. If your goal is to be the best bodybuilder you could possibly be, then yeah, focusing a lot of energy in anything else is going to take away from that. I know we get this question all the time and I think you have to understand one thing. If you want to have extreme performance in one pursuit, then oftentimes unless the other stuff that you're doing is geared towards complimenting that, you can't also pursue that kind of extreme performance in other attributes and not expect to have some detriment. You can't be the best soccer player of your life and also be the best bodybuilder of your life. There's going to be some give and take, but can you do them together, have a good quality of life and get benefits for both? Absolutely. If your goal is to enjoy what you're doing and maybe lift some weights to compliment soccer, I mean that's a wonderful approach. I think people put too much, they fear this too much, you know what I mean? So they're like, you know what? I'm not doing anything else. I'm just going to lift weights. It's like, are you going to be a super bodybuilder? Is that what you want to do? Or are you just trying to be fit and healthy in which case? I feel like it wouldn't be a quaff. We didn't have this question. I feel like we get every quaff. We have pretty much this exact question just worded differently and insert different sport, different aesthetic goal, but it's can I be a buff soccer player? Like, yes, of course you can. Lift weights and play soccer. You're going to be a pretty buff looking soccer player. I don't think, but it's just, are they conflicting? Well, there's different attributes that make a great soccer player. There's different attributes that make a great bodybuilder. It's just that simple. And you're going to have to put some of your effort in one of those directions. And so if you are going to put them in one direction, you're going to limit yourself in the other one. It's that, but you, doesn't mean you can't be a really fit looking soccer player or that has good amount of muscle mass on you. And it doesn't mean you can't be a bodybuilder who actually plays soccer fairly well. I mean, you can definitely do that. This, you're not going to be the best, like Sal said, the best version of yourself at it, doing both of them because they are different goals. I do, I do have, I totally agree. I do have one thing though that, that really drives me crazy though with professional athletes, when they seek out a bodybuilding coach to train them all in hypertrophy leading into their very sport specific pursuit. And I've seen this time and time again with NFL athletes and MMA athletes where they're literally just training like a bodybuilder leading up and then they totally shit the bed when they go to perform. Yeah, I think you have to be the, the area you probably have to be the most careful is if you were an athlete. So if you're playing soccer on a fairly regular basis, the amount of, you know, bodybuilding I would be doing would be minimal. And mainly just for, I would compliment, do it to compliment. Right, it would be just enough. I mean, one to two days a week is about all you want to be doing because I'd be more worried about injury. All right, I'd be more worried about training so hard and heavy to look a certain way. Then I go out on the field and I try to do something explosive and then I end up pulling or tearing something. And so that's the one thing you got to be careful when you are chasing a bodybuilding goal while also playing a sport. This is true for sports too, like I want to, at some point, right? When you're a kid, you do it all. I mean, studies show if you do it all, you do specific sports better by doing it that way. But at some point you specialize and then all your other training is geared towards that specialization. This is why it's so rare. It's so rare to see a professional athlete who's a professional in multiple sports. And the only one that comes to mind for me is Bo Jackson. I can't think of anybody else that, I'm sure there were others. You guys probably know. I don't know of any other athletes that were able to do sports. Yeah, that were professionals. Deion Sanders. Deion Sanders, yeah. But it's super rare, right? Because that's really hard to focus all your focus and technique and skills and be so good that you can be a pro level in one sport and then do it in another. If you, I think I know what they're, what they're really asking when they ask this question is, am I going to lose some gains? Am I going to lose some aesthetics? I mean, I don't know. Maybe if it's real extreme, I bet you most people would probably not. They probably look better just because they're doing more activity. But if you, let's say you're an advanced bodybuilder, let's say you've been lifting weights for 40 years and bodybuilding has been your focus and that's all you've done for 40 years and you've maximized muscular development and then you're like, you know what? I'm going to start playing soccer four days a week. Therefore I'm going to lift weights only once or twice a week. Are you going to lose some of your bodybuilding gains? Yeah, of course. Of course you are because your focus has moved a little bit more in another direction. But I think people put too much weight into something like that. They worry too much about this. Unless you're at that extreme level, who cares? Like go and enjoy. Well, especially at the wreck league level, like they're saying, like we're just doing this as a weekend warrior, but you just got to be cognizant too that, you know, you're putting that excess amount of force and stress around the joints. So I would make sure at least you incorporate a bit more mobility in your rituals going into something like that. So you can just maintain the health of your ankles, your knees, everything else. That's the most important part of this conversation, is that actually almost all of my injuries that have happened in basketball have been probably because I was training so consistently to be a bodybuilder and put mass and size and build. And then I go get out on a basketball court and think that I'm going to be able to move the same as I was moving when I was 19 years old. And now I've got these over-developed quads and glutes, but then I had terrible ankle mobility and stability. And there goes my Achilles, right? Or I don't have the same rotational strength with this new body that's 230 pounds that I did when I was 180 pounds. And so that's what you got to be probably most cautious of, is if you have put a lot of energy and effort towards building a bigger physique, a bodybuilding, and then you decide to pick up a wreck league sport, whether it be soccer or basketball or that, and not realizing that you haven't trained that new version of your body to be capable of doing some of these explosive movements. And that's normally where the injury occurs. So this has happened to me multiple times, so I need to take my own advice here. But that's probably what I'd be most concerned about when I ask this question less about, oh, well, I still look good or whatever, is if I've been really focused on building a buff body, and then I go play a sport that I haven't been training for, is the likelihood of potentially tearing something or hurt injuring yourself? Yeah, very good point. Look, if you like our information, head over to mindpumpfree.com. Check out all of our free guides. 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