 All right. Hello everybody and welcome. Thanks so much for taking the time at this moment in history to participate in this conversation about the open ed conference. We're really pleased to have such a great group here. And also really excited that many community members took the time to report in before the call and may do so after the call through Menti to share their thoughts. I'm Nicole Allen, director of open education for Spark, member of the open ed conference steering committee on the call. We have most of the steering committee members who are joining us, who will be contributing throughout the conversation. We also have more than 50 attendees. Please feel free to contribute in the chat and we'll be using a tool called Menti throughout the conversation to gather audience input. So to run through a quick agenda, the purpose of this call is just the first opportunity for those of us that have been working to organize the open ed conference for 2020 and beyond to give an update on how things are going and open a conversation about some of the important next steps. So we'll start out with an exercise in Menti led by a steering committee member in TAN and then we'll transition into some updates focused on bringing us up to speed on the process so far, where we're at on dates and venue and responding to COVID. And then some next steps in the planning process and community engagement. And then we'll take a few questions and have steering committee members weigh in and then we'll go back into Menti and have a few questions for discussion of gathering input on different perspectives on open education at large and then specifically for the conference. So I'm going to turn it now to Amy to tell us a little bit about Menti meter and how to get logged in. Hello everybody, I'm Amy Tann and I'm from Houston Community College. And I'm going to walk you through Menti meter. This is a wonderful opportunity for us to understand your thoughts and hear what you have to share. We're collecting the information so that people who logged in early, their information will be combined with the live responses that we received during the webinar or this conference call. And then we will keep it open for a couple of days and then we're going to share out all that information in a couple of weeks. So we're really pleased to use this platform to hear what you have to share with us. We really recommend that you use two separate devices so that you can view the presentation on one device and have Menti open on the other. I prefer to use my phone for Menti. You can go to Menti.com and then you will enter the code 677317 and that information is on the screen for you. You may be asked to enable cookies. If that is an issue, please open the chat. Lee Miller is going to give you information on that in the chat. I want to remind everybody that as we're moving along there's going to be a ask a question that you can click on at any point. You'll be able to see the questions. You can like the questions to promote them up to the top. And we're going to be responding to those questions throughout the presentation. And so I think if you're already into Menti and enter that code, then you should be able to join and I think we'll move on to our first question. So we just want to get an idea of who's joining us today. So just give us an idea of where you live into your state, your US state, your Canadian province, or your country. And we're going to see the results here popping up as a word cloud. Wow, look at that. Look at all the representation we have. Maybe we can get all 50 states on there and in multiple provinces and countries. I see Georgia and Texas, California. Wonderful. Well, we welcome all of you to this conversation. We'll move on to the next question. So just to help you get adjusted to Menti.com, we want to be sensitive to the gravity of the situation that we're experiencing, but we also want those of you who feel you can to engage in a lighthearted way and respond to this question and let us know which of these images best reflects your stay at home experience right now. Alrighty, it looks like people are staying busy. Lots of people working on the computer and that cat on the hamster wheel is appealing to many of us. Wonderful. Okay, it looks like you guys have the hang of Menti. We'll move along to our next question. So just to get an idea of who's joining us today, if you could pick up to three of these options, how would you describe your role? How do you see yourself in the open community? So go ahead and pick three of those. Give everybody a chance to make your selections and we can see, look at that beautiful rainbow. We have lots of librarians joining us and many of us, probably most of us, see ourselves as advocates. Excellent. Well, we welcome you all to the conversation. We'll move on to our next question. So just to have an idea of how many times you have attended the open ed conference. So if you can just let us know. Looks like we are kind of in the middle there. We have lots of people who've never attended and we welcome your voices to the conversation. Excellent. Hey, we'll move on to the next question. Actually, here's where I'm going to turn it back over to Nicole to get us started on the information part. Wonderful. Thanks so much, Amy. And I just to reiterate what Amy said earlier, you should have on your mentee device a link where you can ask questions or add questions if you'd like to throughout this conversation. All right. So we're going to move into a quick update on sort of where things stand, where things started and where things stand. And it's really wonderful that there's such a range of participants in this conversation, people who've never been to the open ed conference and want to help shape the future of what carries on and those who've been attending for more than a decade. So I want to just provide a brief overview of what happened over the past, I guess four months since five months since the open ed 19, just for those who hadn't been following that conversation. So the the open education conference is an annual conference that happens typically in North America every year. For 16 years, the conference was organized by Dr. David Wiley, whose name may be familiar to many of you. And after last years or during last year's conference, David made an announcement that open ed 19 was going to be the final annual open education conference he would organize. And this left space for the community to have an opportunity to decide what we wanted our annual gathering to look like. And if we wanted an annual gathering and, you know, ask questions like, you know, what are we as a community or multiple communities or networks? And the conversations that that grew out of that were important to thinking about the future of not only the the conference, but also open education at large. But one theme did emerge during the conference, which is a number of different conversations happened there about sort of what comes next. And one of those conversations yield a form that people could fill out and just share thoughts about the future of open ed. And the responses while they included a range of perspectives, there was a general consensus that having a generally North American based annual conference on open education was still important and valuable to many of the people who were part of the group attending this conference. So following that conversations continued, and a group of community members got together and produced an open letter and call for participation that we pushed out to the community and invited those who are interested in being part of a planning process for open ed or making sure that it happens to step forward. And I know I see just from looking at the list of attendees that, you know, many of you participated in this process and and and stepped forward to help out, which is fantastic. And it created an opportunity for those who were interested in driving things forward to connect and talk about next steps. And the collaboration that came together out of this process was between these four organizations. My organization spark open stacks, the Colorado Department of Higher Education and their OER Council, and the University of System of Maryland's Kerwin Center, which runs the Maryland open source textbook project. And together, we recognize that there was an opportunity for with our our powers combined to be able to support some next steps for the open ed conference. And we put together a proposal to the community for what what we would commit to do. And it is a commitment for a two year process to organize open ed 2020 and 2021, working with the community and creating space for the important conversations that need to happen about what needs to happen after 2021. And the community has an opportunity to really define what we want this convening to be, how it's governed, how it's organized, how decisions are made. And this is the beginning of that process. So the first step that we took coming out of that proposal after sending it out and consulting it with the community. And you know, again, I see many of you on in this conversation supported that that idea and helped helped us move forward. We our first step was to form a steering committee. And most of the steering committee is on the call today. The the two who are not is a Kinshah Batnagar, who's the student body president at the University of Alberta, and Daniel Hyatt, who's based at an institution in Pakistan, where it is very late are the members of the steering committee are here and are going to be joining the conversation as we move forward. So we put out an open call for nominations and went through a stage process to put together this group of amazing individuals from a much broader pool of amazing individuals and really focused in on making sure that there were lots of different perspectives represented from different types of institutions and demographics and geographic representation. And you know, I really want to just stress that that all of these people are have committed to spend at least four to eight hours a month for for the next year, even in light of COVID, to support this process. And they just thank you to all of you guys for being amazing. And, you know, the conversations that we've had so far are wonderful. And I'm really excited to work with you and everybody else who's part of this process going forward. All right. So I'm going to stop there and hand it over to Daniel Williamson from OpenStacks, who's going to share with us an update on the the dates and venue for the conference in light of COVID. All right. Thanks so much, Nicole. Yeah. And thank you to everybody who's on the call. I'm really excited about the opportunity that we have for OpenEd and reimagining it. And so I'm going to provide a quick update on our venue. So in the time before coronavirus, OpenEd was conceived as being an important in-person event. And so with all this planning, of course, we were able to secure a venue in Denver at the Hyatt Regency Denver at Colorado Convention Center for the week of November 9th. So, of course, things have progressed a lot since then. And shortly after executing the contract, our situation has changed fairly drastically, as I'm sure you all can attest. So we recognize that, you know, COVID-19 and the resulting economic downturn has placed an enormous fiscal pressure on colleges, universities, and schools around the country. And that this might make it difficult for many in our community to secure the travel funds that are necessary to travel if we are even permitted to travel come November. So right now, and in fact today, Nicole and I had a call with the Hyatt, we're in discussions with them to determine, you know, what our options are. We want to be as flexible as possible. And we want to determine, you know, what flexibility our contract will allow us with the Hyatt, because we recognize that this is these are really uncertain times. And we might not have the ability to meet in person come November. And so we're going to be sending out a survey to all of the previous OpenEd attendees and other community members asking about the likelihood that they would be able to attend in person, you know, given their institution's current situation. This information is going to help us make decisions about how to proceed in terms of either canceling the venue or maintaining the venue and adjusting the size and reducing the space that we're holding. Also, you know, I lead an organization and one of the things that I tell the organization is that when I know something, you'll know something. And so as this is rapidly kind of advancing, as soon as we have more information about the venue, about the opportunities, I'll share that with you all, as well as the broader community to make sure we're really, you know, aligned and informed about what's going on. Additionally, we're immediately beginning planning to support the conference through an online experience. So regardless of which route we go, whether it's in person online or some sort of hybrid, I think this is going to be an amazing event. We have plenty of time to figure it all out. And I personally remain very optimistic that we will be able to host some amazing hybrid in person online event. However, you know, being from Houston and very familiar with hurricanes, I recognize that the cone of uncertainty for what the fall holds in store for us is still very, very wide. So nonetheless, you know, this is a time in history where more than ever our society needs an open, robust and more equitable education system. And the open ed community is uniquely positioned to usher in the solutions to the problems that we are facing today. So I'm sure regardless of whether we are meeting in person in November or online in November or some mix, we'll have a lot to share and a lot to learn in November. So I'm now going to turn it over to Spencer Ellis from the Colorado Department of Higher Education, who's acting as our local host for 2020 to talk a little bit more about Denver in the venue. Thanks, Daniel. Yes, I love the terminology that you used, ushering in solutions. And I do think that that's the role that open education can and will play as we move higher education and all forms of education forward with our new reality. So we in Colorado are super excited to help in any fashion. And on behalf of the state of Colorado, the Colorado Department of Higher Education and our OER council, which is our OER champions here in the state that kind of dictate the work that we do from a statewide perspective, we're ready to support in any way, no matter the delivery method that is chosen. And we trust this community and steering community to make the appropriate decision that's in the best interest of all those participating. So really inspired to see how many people have turned out for this particular phone call and hoping people will remain engaged as we continue moving forward for planning in 2020, 2021 and beyond. And with that, I would like to turn it over to MJ Bishop from the University of Maryland system. Hi, everybody. Thanks for having me. Yeah, this is MJ Bishop with the University system of Maryland. We are excited about 2021, figuring this will be post COVID, hopefully knocking wood. Obviously, we haven't been able to do what we had been hoping to do right now in terms of visiting venues and starting to make some decisions about where the 2021 conference will be specifically. But the idea is for us to be in the Washington DC area, and to be at the ready after the elections to have great conversations in the DC area with policymakers and others about the great work that you all are doing in the OER space. So stay tuned. Plans will be forthcoming. But unfortunately, we're a little bit further behind than we had hoped to be, obviously, with that planning at this point. Thanks, MJ. Daniel and Spencer. It's been awesome working with all of you. And, you know, we certainly didn't expect this when we set out. But, you know, Daniel's comments also really resonated with me about, you know, making this really the best event that it can be and thinking beyond what it's ever been before. So, all right. So moving on, now that we've covered the how we got there and where we're at on sort of how we're holding the conference, I want to move on to discussing the next steps in the planning process and engaging more community members in the broader process. So I wanted to turn it over here to Ethan Sennach and Lee Miller, who are on the steering committee to share a little bit more about what's in store there. All right. Thanks, Nicole. This is Lee Miller with Barton Community College. And we want to note that we recognize the need for community involvement, as well as the amount of work needing to be completed for this conference and the future of OpenEd as a whole. So the steering committee has created groups to open community participation and will be sending out an invitation for community membership or members to volunteer to serve on one of these groups. We will be asking for applications so that volunteers and their skills and talents align with the needs of the groups. These groups support various aspects of organizing the conference and the future of OpenEd. All groups will comprise of a combination of the steering committee and select the community members. Our aim is to establish a diverse community voice across all groups, as well as be able to execute the deliverables that each group will need to be able to accomplish. So I'm going to pass it on to Ethan so that he can kind of go through that list and some brief description of what those groups are. Awesome. Thank you, Lee. Hi, everyone. My name is Ethan. I work with ISCME, which is the Institute for the Study of Knowledge Management and Education. You may know us better by OER Commons, which is the big platform that we run. So as we mentioned, these are... I'm going to just really briefly run through the basic groups that we see helping organize and plan this conference. We'll be following up with folks providing an opportunity to share your interests, to participate in each of these with more information as well. So don't feel like you need to rent it all down as I go. The first group that we see is the program group. This one is relatively self-explanatory in its nature. We imagine it will be the largest group, but it'll be responsible for the construction and execution of the program. So we're coordinating a review of proposals and establishing the tracks, all of that stuff. The online conference group. So as Daniel and Nicole both mentioned, we are planning for the contingency that this conference may be fully online, but regardless of whether or not there's an in-person event, we want to offer a robust online participation option. So this group would be responsible for helping plan the online components of OpenEd 2020. The third group is the future of OpenEd. So as we mentioned, this group sees ourselves as stewarding the conference for a couple of years while helping build structures that allow the community to own it more fully in the future. So the future of OpenEd group will focus on research, design, structuring OpenEd in the longer term. The fourth group is a group focusing on diversity, equity, and inclusion. This is something that we see as intrinsic and essential to the conference and to our work more broadly. So we believe it's worthwhile to have a committee or a group working with the other conference planning groups and integrating this more fully into the conference. The fifth group is our communications group. This one also relatively self-explanatory, but working on things around the website, managing community outreach, keeping up on track with timeline, that sort of thing. We also have a conference policy group. So we care deeply about having an effective code of conduct, establishing a policy that creates a safe environment, and a space where people can come with their full selves to share their thoughts and what they're working on. So a group to work on the various policies and rules for the conference. And then the last two groups are just a local hosting group. This will be primarily folks in the location and logistic-oriented folks for the venue, managing location and travel information, setting up social events, and managing on-site volunteers. And then finally, obviously reach a group of folks to support all of these other committees. The volunteers are not a group of their own, but they'd be helping review proposals for the conference, managing things on-site, and helping sort of interspersed throughout all of the different needs. So those of the seven groups will be sharing these out again with everybody in the near future, with an opportunity to kind of share your interest and express where you'd like to participate. And I'm going to throw it back over to Lee to just wrap us up on that. Awesome. Wonderful. Thank you, Ethan. So yeah, look for more information on each of those groups when the invitation comes out. You can see that there. The steering committee will be sending out an invitation for community members to sign up for planning groups. A process for group selection will be developed if there are more sign-ups than there are available spots. And we will also keep in mind what voices we might be missing or need to hear from. So our hope is to send the invitation out next week and we'll have groups hopefully start in meetings in May. And I will send it back over to Nicole. Fantastic. Thank you, Lee and Ethan. All right. So we're going to be taking, just taking a pause for questions in a bit. If you can use Mentimeter to ask questions or just stick them in the chat, please feel free. But just wanted to cover a few quick things first. So just want to acknowledge that, you know, yes, we will be setting up a website and social media presence and do more to sort of promote what's happening. I think we've approached this very, very carefully. Just sort of recognizing that we are still ramping up the community engagement and participation in the process and didn't want to get too far ahead. We really prioritized getting the steering committee up and running and, you know, these conversations, which is really the most important part. And we'll be working on more of the communications piece first soon, as you know, with the communication group that's being formed. So also just want to note that we'll be scheduling these meetings regularly going forward. This isn't the only one. And we really will be prioritizing these conversations about the future of Open Ed, you know, especially at a time of uncertainty, focusing in on the things that, you know, you definitely can control and want to do can be really helpful. And just want to note that that's definitely going to be a priority going forward. All right, so I see a few questions popping in. And I am going to see if I can show all of the questions so that everybody can see them. Am I able to pop this out? I don't think I am. But all right, so before we start in on questions, I just wanted to actually take a pause while people are people are asking questions to see if any other steering committee members who haven't said something yet wanted to jump in and reflect on anything that we've discussed so far or share any sentiments. This is Daniel. I know I've already spoken. I hope that's okay. I failed to specify that that was okay. But please feel free. So one thing that I think is really important is that to emphasize that this is twofold the work that we're working on here. One part of it is just hosting the event for the next two years. But I think perhaps the more important part of this work is really figuring out what open ed as a conference and potentially as a community looks like in terms of self-governance. And so I think a lot of the work that we should be thinking about and thinking about how we participate is in that second bucket. Of course, there's a lot of tactical work that's necessary to get the conference off the ground for the next two years. But I think really the big lift is going to be figuring out what the future looks like. So looking at the question so far, it does seem like the top question is whether there is a plan for the conference to go virtual and offer some sessions virtually. And I think we've already answered that in terms of making sure that we do have that contingency plan and forming the online conference group that's going to look into what a hybrid or online conference looks like. So here's the next question. Do we plan to follow the scheduling formats of previous open ed conference or do we anticipate changes? And if so, what changes? Does anyone want to jump in on that? This is Ethan. I'm speaking solely for myself here and not members of the steering committee. But my immediate answer is I have no idea yet. I know that there were sort of a variety of pros and cons with the way proposals were reviewed in previous iterations of open ed. So I think this is something that we honestly would love to hear more from the community about. There are a variety of combinations or ways. It could be structured. We haven't dove deeply into those yet. I'm sure that's something that the program committee will be thinking about and weigh. But we would love to have input from the community on that. This is Amy and I'm glad you mentioned that, Ethan. I would encourage everyone to, if you have an interest, to please join that program committee and give us your preferences and your ideas. There are a couple of other program related questions in here. One about indicating whether proposals are commercial in the applications or in the proposal review process. That's definitely something for the program group to consider. A great idea to save for later in the session to add to the list. In terms of the financial structure of an online conference, that's a really excellent question. It's something that we have thought about, but don't have a budget for. I think that's going to be the first step in the conversation. I think, where are we at in time? Oh, no. That wasn't supposed to happen. With where we're at on time, I think we're going to move forward into the rest of the Mentimeter conversation, because I think a lot of the things that are showing up in questions are actually good things to talk about and add into some of the questions that we have coming up. But I want to reiterate that if you have questions, please put them in here. We are more than happy to provide responses to them. All right. Amy, I am going to turn it back to you for the next question. We're going to get back going with Menti.com. There's the code. If you need the code, I think everybody is using the Menti quite effectively. It's really wonderful for us. Just to get us back into the mode, what kind of conference go are you? Looks like we've already got some responses there. The top response is work. It looks like work, work, work, and also mind blown. I see a couple of hearty animals there. Wonderful. We can move to the next question. I'm going to turn it over to Tiffany Reardon. Hi, everyone. I am Tiffany Reardon from Affordable Learning, Georgia. You guys have already got a glimpse of this question before I start talking. If open education is a means to an end, what end is most important to you? I guess what's kind of like an end goal of open education for you? Seeing some student success, equity, engagement, access, pedagogy. I just want to jump in and remind everybody that we're going to share this data out again at a later date, so we will make it available for everyone to see all of the responses. Seems like a pretty common theme here is accessibility, but I think we all have our own thoughts as far as that means to an end. Let's move forward. Tell us what you would like to see the open education community do. This is beyond just the conference. What do you want to see the community doing or focusing on, or maybe not doing any more, or things that we're already doing, but we should continue, that kind of thing. So we've got some pedagogy in here, which is good, because if that's an end goal, we should probably work towards it. Collaboration, definitely openness. There's a lot of collaboration here. Research. Cool. So we've got some pretty good ideas of what we want this community to be doing. So let's keep moving. Okay. So what about an annual open education gathering is important to you? So we're thinking about what's the importance of having an annual conference or an annual event for our community. So we've got some connection, networking, sharing ideas, a lot about connection and networking. So let's keep going. So if you had to pick three words or phrases, what would you choose to see reflected in the open ed conference values? These ones are so fun. So there's a lot of inclusion here. Definitely, because that's the biggest word. See in diversity, equity, open-minded, collaboration, some really good points here. Some of these smaller words are pretty interesting too. Like research, qualitative and quantitative, flexible. Got some good points here. Okay. Let's keep going. Okay. So given the values that you would like to see in the open ed conference, what topics would you like to see reflected in the program? Community-based OER creation, promotion and tenure. That is definitely something that I hear a lot about. H5P is so much fun. Open education week activities. That would be cool to feature. Tiffany, I'm also seeing sustainability pop up in several of the comments. Yeah, definitely. Diversity and equity too. And open in light of COVID. I'm sorry to say that again. How open can advanced diversity and equity in light of open? I saw that before it slid up and I think that's really, really important thinking about the crisis that we're currently facing and how openness can be a strategy for addressing that. But also making sure that through open practices we're not inadvertently replicating some of the legacy structures that are inequitable. Yeah. I also saw leadership just disappear and that's a good one too. Policy. Some good fails. Oh, that's a good topic. I would go to a presentation on OER fails. Okay. So let's go ahead and keep moving. Okay. So in light of the COVID-19 and how it's affecting the world, how is your institution or organization planning ahead for the fall? Do you expect to be able to attend events? Do you have, I don't know, specific rules or policies or like new guidelines that you're following? You've seen a lot of unknown. No in-person travel, decreased travel funds. Definitely a lot of unknown. We're seeing a lot of need for online options, virtual conference options. Okay. This is really helpful. A lot of unknown but assuming or guessing and that's probably probably a good idea to kind of try to project forward on what to expect. Okay. So let's keep going but this is really helpful. And Tiffany, this is our last mentee question. Yes. So with this last opportunity to kind of add, aside from asking questions, which you can do all the way through the end, with this last opportunity to give us your thoughts, what other ideas or feedback would you like to share for the open ed conference? Click show results. Okay. So we want to definitely see virtual attendance. Criticism should be encouraged and not avoided. Unstructured, un-conference was neat. I wasn't there for that but that's kind of a cool idea. This is Jasmine Roberts, faculty at Ohio State and I really like the point about how we can make sure that we're not preaching to the choir. That's not exactly what that person mentioned but I think that is something that we should consider in the open ed community. How are we just not hearing some of the same voices and how do we get folks in who are perhaps not as familiar with open ed or you know have never heard of open ed, how do we get those voices into our community as well? So I think that was an excellent point made. Yeah, definitely. Bringing in the new voices. I just want to remind everybody that when this is over we're going to reset the settings so that you can go back in to Menti and add more comments or reflections or things you'd like to share especially for the open ed questions. Yeah and I think we're going to leave this slide open for a little while and just take a moment to open it up to members of the steering committee based on what you've seen in the conversation so far reflecting on any of these ideas or trends or values and what you're hoping to see come out of the conference. And thank you Jasmine for what you shared. This is Ethan. I was just going to turn the back around really quickly and say I'm really appreciative of all the folks who are sharing stuff through Menti. I was looking kind of at the numbers of submissions on even these open-ended questions and I'm seeing like 40 to 50 to 60 different people adding in comments and everything and I think that speaks to you know how passionately this community cares about building community and I'm really excited to continue to foster that in the years ahead and I just wanted to sort of recognize and say I'm grateful for all the folks who are contributing thoughts and stuff right now. This is Emily Reagan from MSU Denver and I'm seeing interest in maker sessions or times for people to get together and do some creation during the conference which sounds exciting. This is Lee Miller. With all the comments and to kind of bounce off what Ethan said I just really encourage everybody to really consider when the invitation for those groups come out to really look and see what is going to kind of spark your interest and you know if you have the time to put your name out there so that you can continue to voice and provide a voice for those interests that you have and share your skills and talents for these groups. And also to follow up with what Lee has said if you have anyone in your institution that would be you know an excellent addition to the community please encourage them to participate in the program or in any of the groups that you know we are asking you to sign up so and I also saw K to 12 and really that is one thing that we would like to expand on so this is not just higher ed but also includes our colleagues from K to 12 so that really is a good feedback from you all. This is Jasmine Roberts again and I saw the point about less or fewer keynotes and I think that is a really interesting point added into this conversation how you know I have had conversations with people one-on-one and how sometimes keynotes can kind of contribute to this rock star if you will thing that sometimes goes on in our community that we hear again going back to the point that I was voicing earlier we hear from the same people in the same voices and how can we make this this conversation a little less top down you know and more equitable and more horizontal if you will you know so I actually really like that idea about fewer keynotes. Yeah Jasmine I it's something that I've been thinking about a lot too and I'm really interested to explore that thanks for raising it. So other other anybody who hasn't spoken yet want to jump in and share any thoughts and I guess please continue to add your your feedback and thoughts into here you know this this whole process has been both extremely challenging but also incredibly liberating because of the fact that there is so much opportunity here we do have the opportunity to really reinvent this conference and or whatever it becomes based on what the community decides it was you know it was it opened at 19 I think a lot of us felt or I heard a lot of people reflecting similar perspectives about just not knowing how to get from point A to point B or point Z or whatever that the end would be but it's exciting to have this incredible group of people who are on the line right now willing to contribute ideas and time and thought into what the conference can become and we just really want to underscore how much it is important for the community to share feedback and we truly do want to hear from you so we'd love your feedback on how this call went whether this technology is working I know that there's some you know some of the the timing was maybe a bit challenging but is this a good way to for you to submit feedback and feel like you're participating and and able to shape the conference or are there other ideas that you have for how we might be able to to do that together so uh we can go ahead and move to the last slide which just has a set of links to the documents that we shared in the uh in the slides earlier just so everybody has them uh we really want to invite everybody to participate in the process on the community discussion list the link is there that's where we'll be sending calendar invitations and information about next steps you know we'll also be making announcements and sharing the website once things like that are up and running as well if if you're not able to devote time to thinking more deeply about a planning process right now which we certainly understand and we really just hope that what ends up happening in November is going to be something that brings us all together and provides an opportunity to build the the the kind of connections between people that that drive the open ed community and those of you who know me I've been working in the space since I was an undergraduate student uh more than a decade and a half ago and I truly believe that it is the connections between people that make open make the open education movement what it is and uh we have a great chance here to work together to do that and I'm excited about it and I know other people on the phone are excited about it so um thanks all just for taking time at this important uh moment where where people are grappling with lots of different challenges to join this this call and I think we can leave it leave it there I'm just going to pause it for a second uh if if anybody thinks I've forgotten anything before we wrap up the call or anybody would like to share a final note in a call um do you want to make answer some of the questions oh are there are there more let's see so I think we've addressed so the question about indicating a first and second choice for which committee you'd like to be on um we'll take that back as a suggestion I think it's a a good idea and we'll work out some way to indicate preferences and the plan is to send the the participation call out um hopefully next next week but certainly in the coming weeks and that will go out to the community listserv so if you're not subscribed the link was on the page that I'm about to flip to now so I think that was all of the questions that we we had um so uh I think we're going to leave it there and uh all of this information is going to be posted in the notes document we'll post the slides the recording and the mentee uh results for those who'd like to to dig a little bit deeper into those so uh just in closing I want to thank everybody for coming and we're really committed to making sure that that open ed happens and is a valuable and enriching experience uh and look forward to working with all of you to help shape that and if somebody can put the link to the notes in the chat that would be fantastic