 Nkawala kwa m delivered yu uzeru l'unimia kwa hwo hwa. Mawarin? Ya Uh before that break you are telling us about being self aware and said that there are 3 science 3 concepts of self awareness. I want us to finish on that part. You mentioned 2 Yes on sobo apoza ni I mentioned selfy image, self esteem so now the last one is the ideal self. What was that? Ideal self, if the person you'd like to be, everyone has that image, the person they'd like to be. And unfortunately nowadays, that person is influenced by social media a lot. You know we have some image, you want to be this guy with abs and sex sparkle, come on Emilina. You want to be like some Kim Kardashian. Haksishis in Africa. Ya, and unfortunately people don't remind themselves that people won't post their real lives on social media Ya, exactly, exactly No one will post their real lives on social media They'll post something fake They'll post whatever is shiny, whatever is glowing, you know No one will tell you the process of getting where they are But then how do you get to know that ideal self that you want to be So what you need to do is check the gap between the person you are right now and the person you'd like to be And you can look at the six areas of life, the professional, the psychological, emotional, spiritual All those areas, look at the gap between the person you are right now and where you'd like to be And the goal is to make that gap as small as possible Bring that person closer to you So that you're able to make small steps at a time And then you can start enjoying life, you know Because if that person is Ukombali, you're just seeing a little pump I don't know all these people who post their flashy cars on social media I don't know anything about Robin One of the people who is in Chinese Jameni When will you ever get there So it's about finding that centre within yourself And bringing yourself to order Alright, I want us to touch on some of the signs of depression How can you tell that somebody is depressed Okay, thank you So with depression there are three major signs that you need to look out for And they have to be there for a minimum of two weeks And the first one is sadness If you experience feelings of sadness for a period of two weeks consecutively And then there is the feeling of hopelessness There is this void in your mind, in your heart And then the last one is loss of interest in activities that you've been enjoying in the past But now The people who have... What do you mean by that? Yeah, but now, as in you don't enjoy those activities anymore Like maybe you used to love going to church But you don't go to church anymore Because you don't want to interact with people Okay I was asking, these people who say that they are introverts Is being an introvert Does it have an effect here? Because how can you tell that this is an introvert But who you I remember to kujifungia because I was depressed Is there a way of distinguishing the two? Yes, there is How? Because when a person is depressed You will notice there is a certain change Say, to say many way We used to know you as this guy Who always shows up When you meet a speaker And then all of a sudden We don't see you And then there is this other person Who is always indoors Most of the time they are indoors And they don't really like Socializing Socializing sana Because the thing with introverts They don't like small talk Small talk ni kulezana Os, jubi yonsei, nafanyanini, sayizi On again, they really love things that enrich them So they love going into deep conversations And that is why they don't like socializing So they drive them But they don't want to know What's going on in Nairobi It's such a turn off for an introvert They want to know what's going on in your life Or you just pick a topic And talk about it, discuss it So as you converse with somebody Are you able to tell as you talk to someone That this person is depressed in your line of work In my line of work Yes, because Especially unfortunately being a psychologist Every time I tell someone I'm a psychologist They normally start opening up They'll start telling you deep things Because I think they feel They will not have the chance To open up again And so they start feeling You're going to understand You're used to this So they'll start opening up About very deep things I think that has been My experience so far And do you like Okay, forgive me for asking But One of the kumpimotu from The get go Is it like something that I met this psychologist He looked at me and said Ram na una wako iwi wako iwi He said come on Is it like A switch you cannot turn it off Psychologist, you just read Okay, you can't always read This one is depressed This one is not Okay Because some people are very good at masking Some people will wear a suit They'll bathe, they'll do their hair But then unfortunately deep down Whatever they are going through Why? They are not doing well They are not doing well So it can be hard For a parent who is watching it today And they are concerned about their child What would you advise a parent to do Concerning that child And they feel like this child could be Going through depression The first thing is Familiarize yourself with the signs of depression Get to know What is it that I'm supposed to look out for If I'm going to say That my son or my daughter is depressed And then the second thing Is know how you're going to approach them It's important to always have a conversation With this person Let them know that you care And you have noticed something Kindly do not go with the tone of a parent Because most especially African parents They really love to be in control They want to tell you what you're supposed to be doing They would command how you should feel How you ought to feel And how you ought to react And you see this is also unfortunately One of the reasons why people are getting so depressed Because they were not taught how to express The emotions in childhood So they are struggling in adulthood And you see you are looking for a job And there is a youth here who is watching today And the parent is asking them Utahama lini Because you are 35 You are 30 Or I don't know which ever age How would a job And you know this is how they ask Ume pangaji For such a person Old advice They can come to a facility We normally have open house support groups For the youth For mums, for dads, for alcoholics And you come Come and interact with others Who are going through the same thing That you're going through Share your story Meet with counselors and psychologists You will get help And normally Just to get this To clean the air about counseling Counseling is not advice giving Counseling is You interact with the therapist You form a relationship with the therapist And then they guide you Using your values To become a better person Or to solve problems That you have been having Yes I'm looking at A youth who is Undergoing depression During this time of unemployment Because many lost their jobs Because of COVID-19 And many are still applying As a result of that How would you say We You say counselors are not advisors Yes They are not They are not They just guide you Yes How would you guide us A youth who is trying To make ends meet Now They choose To get into Gans Some Begin To steal Others begin to Become conmen But they say wash wash Wash wash Gamaia Wash wash Because they are trying to get a solution And they are wondering How do we do this How would you guide such an individual Watching you today And they are getting tempted To indulge In criminal activities Because of lack of employment Because it can't be depressing Yes It is And I will repeat this again Seeking professional help Is very important Very key It's very key because Why is it that When you have Typhoid When you have COVID You go to hospital But then the minute Your brain Your mind is not okay You don't go You don't seek help So okay Mental health All these are The help that we offer People have not yet accepted Because there is a lot of stigma Around it And the minute Someone tries to seek help People will start Saying that they are mad They are going mad And the minute they get into Criminal gags Oransumaha Ataribika Ataliwa So there is so much stigma around it But I'm here to tell you that It's okay to seek Professional help For your mental health It's just like going For that COVID vaccine You're just going for a check up For your mental Yes Now that we are going towards We are seeking help We are seeking solutions Let's look at some of these solutions Towards depression What are some of the things That we would need to look out for Not to reduce the rates of depression Especially among the youth Okay So does that mean The science of depression The solutions Because you've already talked about the science About the science Yes Okay the first solution I always advise is Having social support Like What do you mean by social support? Social support is when you interact With other people And normally when you interact With people and you have healthy relationships The homon oxytocin It's normally produced It's responsible For social interactions You see that feeling You get when you interact With someone and you feel ha Relieved and happy Yes Like you've had a good day Yes That is oxytocin working So Literally just Being around people Sharing ideas Talking about your problems It can really elevate Just go out of the house Yes Just get out And also With unemployment Telling your friends and family About your current situation It really works And the problem with some of us is We've already lied to our friends and family That you're working in a big place No that's another problem Self-awareness Self-esteem If you haven't accepted yourself You want to show people the ideal self But you don't want them to see This person that you are You're portraying something that you're not A picture that is not the real you And people will be surprised Once they realise Who you truly are And laugh Because as a You've reached the end of the drop Yes And a question I always like to pose to people Because I'm sure there is someone Who is watching us Who is living such a life Is that your purpose in life? Do you think that is why You're in this life To lie about the person you are It's important to even challenge yourself To discover who you really are And to be your true authentic self And let people see you for who you are The pressure has really increased Especially among Kampas students And I'm really wondering How do we solve this Because someone in Kampas Ok, this is how people say That how na bibi How na wa toto That's what you'll be told How na bibi, how na wa toto Ni naku sumboa That's how people question you They just assume that you're not Supposed to be having problems It's unfortunate Ok, when it comes to Kampas Or college There's something called Transitioning Pa le wukitoka high school You're going into Kampas See, you're making a transition there Because now it's like You're joining the real world It's like you're joining adulthood Officially most people That is when they get their ideas So it's very important to Seek help Ok, not help as such But just seek advice On what are the things I'm supposed to expect In Kampas So that you don't get shocked When you see something different From what you expected So that you also make the right choices The right career, the right friends The right kind of activities Because there are so many activities In Kampas that can keep Some un busy And you know with depression Whenever you're busy you can't Get depression as such And it is sad when you see Kampas students Even killing each other Is it depression? Relationships? Is it depression? No, I would say for that one Yes, it could be depression And it can also be personality disorders Because there are people Who tend to be very possessive And the minute they find that Maybe you've been cheating on them You've been unfaithful The first thing they'll think is You don't deserve to live So personality disorder Yes I want us to bring this conversation To a close And as you wrap it up I want us to talk about How we can be able to Help one another Because you talk about Social How society can be able to bring As up How we can be able to help each other As a park And It is That is your camera As you talk to somebody there When you Advise somebody How would you ask them To handle themselves How would you guide them You say that we are a society Yes And you clearly stated Talking to somebody Can't help For someone who is watching you This particular morning And they are trying to wrap their head up After making many applications They do not know what to do The parents are giving them Pressure to leave the house Maybe you can have a thought How would you know what to do With this child Maybe you are a housewife The person who is paying your bills Is a lady and you are unemployed Depression comes in What would be Our take home This particular day How would you advise somebody For you who is watching me And you are feeling hopeless Especially about unemployment I would recommend that You look for your passion And the things that You find interesting Your hobbies And then see how you can make money out of that Because unfortunately Society lied to us About being employed You don't really have to be employed To make a living You don't need to be employed To have a source of income Try to be creative where you are Start there Continue looking for a job And in the end It will all come back to you For taking responsibility For your own life So the take home Message is be responsible For your own life And I love what you say Be passionate And find a way of Making money out of your passion That is how entrepreneurs are actually born Because they get something They do love And then they do it And they get money And then people are like How I made me you are 10 billion You are like Let me get to twitter And see what people are saying On our social media handle Morinda was quite interesting I love what you are doing I am saying this is Malik And I say good morning And this is Alright That's another question Kipkorir Thank you so much for keeping it A fire Makai mojia Thank you so much Kipkorir This is Daniel Thank you so much Daniel Thank you so much Puriti This is Edwin Thank you for enjoying the show Musa Maali And watching you Loud and clear from Bungoma Thank you so much Musa Maali Dennis Enjoying the conversation I am familiarizing myself With this particular issue here Edga And watching you from Nyahuuru Thank you so much Edga Joann Enjoying the conversation This is a finally a doggo, doggo lange, nasama enjoying the show from Nax Vegas. 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Because it all starts from the mind. I believe so. It does literally, honestly, everything starts from the mind. The mind. But if you're depressed, you can't get anything done. You can't. Well, that was to the end of this conversation today on why in the morning we have a lot in store for you. Still coming up in a bit. My name is Ram Magukko. Thank you so much for being part of this morning conversation right here. We're taking a short break. We'll be back in a bit. Keep it while in the morning.