 What do you make of the sentiments by Deputy President Ruto, because he has missed other functions and this is one of them that he has also mentioned things to do with money being used illegally or wrongly. I think the fact that he did not attend the Naivasha meeting is not lost on us that he was not invited and people from his faction are not invited. But we saw excuses from the organizers of the meeting saying you know they are adhering to COVID protocols which is laughable because we know why some people, some quotas are not invited. I think in the history of constitutional making especially after 1997 Naivasha has become a mutilation venue. You have a very nice idea and document and then it is taken to Naivasha and it comes out as something else. So the kind of consensus that goes on in Naivasha is not consensus in the real definition of consensus. It's some negotiated arrangements by politicians. I want to fault the Deputy President in one thing that he is not maintaining consistency in terms of honesty. On one hand he is telling us that you know we will stop rege. This is not something that we will allow to pass through. On the other he is coming out soba and saying we must have consensus. So we know where he stands but sometimes he comes out and it appears as though he does not know where he stands. Because if you oppose this report then oppose it in its entirety. You do not come in when you are meeting certain quotas and then you begin saying but we need to have a consensus. We need to agree. I think I fault him on that. He is on both sides of this divide. But that said it is important that we build consensus around these issues. Because in as much as the BBI task force is saying it went around the country. If you look at the annex to the BBI report, this report that we are now discussing, you have about less than 400 people listed, individuals listed as having participated sent the emails and stuff like that. Then you have groups, individuals mostly comprised of politicians. If you remove groups that comprise of politicians then you have a very small demographic that actually participated in airing their views. And that is not to discount people who gave their views. What I think was missing was meaningful public participation. Not just holding a baraza where politicians are addressing the people and telling them this is what you need. I think meaningful public participation means that the people are coming up with solutions to their problems. Rather than the political class telling them by the way this is what you need. I think we turned it over its head. Now these senators before this particular in Naivasha before they went for this consensus meeting they were expressing concerns over the watering down of the powers of the Senate. And after meeting they are now saying something different. They have changed the song. If we could listen in to what Senator Urengo said after they had that meeting in Naivasha over the weekend. The Bridges initiative was one that went round the country seeking the view of all Kenyans which has culminated in the report that we now have. The report seeks to ensure that no one is left behind by creating shared prosperity. Shared prosperity means that all communities in Kenya from all corners have a share in the resources. One of the methods that this will be achieved is by increasing the minimum amount of shareable revenue to the counties from 15% to 35%. Ensuring that greater resources percolate to every corner of Kenya. Father it creates award development fund which will be sourced with 5% of shareable allocation. Youth are equally catered for under BBI. Our youth have a host of issues that have prevented them from achieving their full potential. The issues have hampered the youth and they are now faced with numerous problems that make their lives a bit of a misery. BBI the process called the building bridges initiative was one that went round the country seeking the view of all Kenyans which has culminated in the report that we now have. The report seeks to ensure that no one is left behind by creating shared prosperity. There are concerns raised to the power of this summit and now the 15% to 35% they haven't even told us how they will get to that who is going to find that. And Wangiko and Kini have been suffering what you stand on this. Two things. I want to see Nio Rengo. Honesty is the best policy. What do I mean? You're talking about the youth have faced challenges that he's named. I'll tell you for free. That photo you've seen there. That is the problem facing the youth. That photo. I'll tell you. That is the entire misery. The pain. The unemployment. Everything in one photo. They say a photo is 1000 words. That is it. Now shared prosperity. Laughable, right? Because why do you reduce Kenya into communities? When you're talking about leadership, it's a problem. We have politicians and all our leaders. When you're talking about leadership, why do you see me as A? Let's say Kikuyu and you as A. Let's say Lou. Why can't I see you as a Kenyan? Serve the people because we are Kenyans. Serve the people as citizens of Kenya. You see, that's what I'm saying. That is a problem that we're seeing right there. The issue like you just raised, they've changed their tone. That is because political parties in Kenya are owned by individuals. They are owned by individuals. We have Jubilee. We've seen the owner there. We have seen the owner of ODM there. And so they will be panel beaten to a certain tone. When you talk about this, they are saying every country will have two senators, a male and female. My question to them is, they are forgetting, but my question to them is one. What happens when it comes to voting? Remember, Senate votes via delegation. What happens when both senators are not on the same side? That is a question they should answer. I think just in addition to what he said, first I should mention that the owner of Jubilee was not present. That was the caretaker. I think the owners have been speaking behind the scenes. We were talking about the issue of a Senate that has been watered down. If we adopt the kind of structure that is being proposed where the executive is in comity with parliament, where the executive sits in parliament and parliament sits in the executive, then most functions that are currently under the National Assembly should move to Senate. Because Senate as presently structured is already watered down. It happened in Naivash again coincidentally. But for us to go the way we are proposing to go, we must have Senate as an upper house. It happens across the world where we have a bicameral parliament. I think that is something that we must consider. That Senate must be an upper house. It must be given more roles because now you would have a National Assembly that is not really playing oversight. But is working towards government agenda. So that is something that must be addressed. But I must also fold Senate for this, that even with the little authority and roles that they have been given under the current constitution, they have not really performed their best. We have seen committees of Senate, for example when they are grilling governors, they are playing politics and playing card games with governors. Yet they are supposed to be very decisive and to take very stern action against such individuals. So I think Senate has failed in that manner. But that said, we must also improve Senate. And as we talk about the youth, it is disappointing that senior Rengo is saying that the youth are covered under BBI. Recently asked a colleague of mine to pinpoint where the youth are covered under BBI, where the youth are benefiting. And if we go systematically, and I'm glad my colleague has mentioned that these things that are being sold to the youth so that the youth buy into BBI are things that the Jubilee government has failed to do. When you talk about help, it doesn't even have to do with amending the help act. It has to do with policy. And in addition to what he has said, I have friends, in fact this afternoon was talking to a colleague of mine who is now practising as an advocate. But at the time that he was not, he actually wrote to help. And since that time, to the time he started making remittances to help, he was not queried about paying back his loan. So this is a policy issue. It does not even have to do with statutory amendment. That is one, two, when you are talking about the youth being covered in terms of, and Nudin has mentioned this, in terms of tax holiday, the people who will benefit most are not the youth, because we have seen in tenders across board where you have individuals who are benefiting through youth. So you have an individual who is perhaps 60 years old, a politician somewhere who uses a youth to register a company, and then that company is used to obtain a tender, and then they are paid. So in that case then, when you grant tax holiday, there are some issues that are impracticable. They may appear flowery and selling it to certain sections of our society, but then they are impracticable. So I do not think that the youth are covered anywhere. In any case, the current constitution covers the youth more than what the BBI proposes.