 When we come to CITEP CITEP cooperation, basically there is much that one can say about it in line with experience sharing, in line with understanding each other and also in line with supporting one another in terms of development specifically on technical capacities as well as food waste management is concerned. So with the set of jigari, as a technical person there is much we have got out of this cooperation and what we expected most was about getting more knowledge and more experience on how food waste is being managed. Kenya can't have the knowledge to do everything on its own. We have Milan coming in, we have Rwanda coming in and it's all different stakeholders with different intellectual skills, different, you know, that collaboration, that partnership, it's just about learning new things, sharing knowledge and with this you can even get better ways of managing food waste. We can get better understanding of how other cities are managing their food, can we implement it in this other city, will it work and all that collaboration that just sharing of knowledge and ideas basically is what I find really important. From jigari, I think I was able to, I picked that they also trying to bring up initiatives for implementation through institutions since I think it's easier to manage food waste through institutions before we can get to introducing the same concept to household level. This nasty situation due to the virus as we all know somehow forced us to set up an online platform that acts as a repository of Milan's good practices. I think one of the most interesting things about the platform, it came at a timely time if I may say so because of current situation in the world we can't meet face to face and it pretty much provided the necessary materials whether you could read all the materials in regards to the program, you could watch videos in regards to what Milan is doing, what other different countries are doing and I found that quite really interesting. It wasn't a situation whereby we had to go in a classroom, meet and get to learn these things but readily available at the click of a button. Videos that were done within the different institutions or the different, what do I call them, estates the residential areas as the people who are doing the different food distributions that it was actual, the people who are teaching us or the people who carry out the projects so I liked that about the platform training. And then the attitude change among our people so that they get to appreciate that food waste one can be a resource, it can employ and we can address it in a better way than just putting it in the dustbin in whatever form it is. Saja Corporation really help in bringing up the cities and actually you learn from your colleague, you learn from your sister city you know if they have done this one, which challenges have they made which steps have they passed through so in that way it helps also your city to plan and move according to what you have done from your colleagues. So it's all about basically learning from one another.