 Burn it to the top, boss top, we're your girlfriend fat, boss top, we're gonna do it how you want, boss top, yeah, everybody on us Check it, check it, check it, this is your unique house, this is your boy ECO and I'm here with the lovely amazing official Miss Jamaica, what's going on? Nothing, nothing, you know my dad walk on Hey man, hey man, this guy right here man, you know what, God just bless you sometime and you know, God just drop a jewel in your lap, man This guy right here, man, out of the blue, man, I get a call and I'm like, man, God must be shining down on me, man Cause this guy, the caliber guy that I want on the show, man I appreciate that My boy big court is in the What's going on, bro? He's in the building I'm here, dog, in D-Town in Dallas You know what, man, I seen court dog, man, and I was like, oh, that's it, that's it, I'm glad I ain't run into court dog I might have had a problem with court dog My wife, she, you know, she says that, it's three versions of me You got Courtney, you got court dog, and you got big court Man, you got E, you got little E, and you got E-dog, it's tatted on my back Exactly It's just the phases that you want You understand what it is Yeah So court dog protects Courtney and big court Yeah, yeah, man So, man, I mean, being from Kansas City, Missouri, why don't y'all get so mad, man, when people say Kansas Bruh I'm sick of it Bruh Fighting words, then fighting words, bruh What's annoying, I'ma tell you, I can see why sometimes people get confused Because there is a Kansas City, Kansas, and a Kansas City, Missouri But what's irritating is when we tell you, when we specify and say we from Kansas City, Missouri And then you turn around and say, oh yeah, so how is it growing up in Kansas? I'd be like, shit, I don't know That's me to hear them all day, that was funny Because I never, I didn't get it, you know what I'm saying, I gotta get up there I've been to Kansas, I used to live in Topeka, and I've been Fort Riley But I hadn't been up on you guys' side, I've probably been through there, because we go everywhere So how far are they from each other, though? So this is the They've been 30 miles No, no, this is the crazy part This is the crazy part, I was actually born in Kansas City, Kansas Because my mother was at work at KU Medical Center So it's like, they're right next to each other You can get there by the street, you know what I mean So why you get offended then? Because it's night and day, it really is Kansas City, Missouri is a major city, it's big Kansas City, Kansas is Country It is, but hey, listen, they're my partners Shout out to KCK to the 913 Because you know what, I recently just said that when I go on platforms I'm gonna start representing Kansas City, Missouri and KCK Why? Because, I mean, you know, we together at the end of the day I mean, the hustlers do their thing together, the rappers, everything It's different, but it's still the same You're the only one, you're gonna be by yourself I am by myself, but I'm a leader I'm a leader like that More people might start doing what he's doing Exactly Somebody has to start Somebody has to start It's a curse, man, it's a curse, right? Because that brings a lot of issues too, right? No, no, no, it's not like that Oh, what y'all ain't trying to do? It's like a funny type of thing, you know what I mean? No, it's no beef or nothing like that It's like a Dallas Houston type of thing Not Dallas and Houston and Pelotentrica, they'll kill each other Yeah, we tease each other So it's still a brotherhood, we tease each other Well, I know y'all good wholesome guys But the guys that go to prison or something up in that area Do they have any kind of... No, it's St. Louis in Kansas City Okay, that's because you said Dallas and Houston When Dallas and Houston cast go to prison Right You got to Dallas Cowboys, you got to Houston Now it's the Titan, but it used to be the Allers And that kind of through, because they argue over sports, man Right, right Well, KCK, they claim our team So basically they claim the Royals, they claim the Chiefs Now, I mean, I'm probably getting in trouble for this But there's a lot of money on the Kansas side They might have more millionaires and rich folk than we do Well, I don't know of, because Eddie Griffin from over there with y'all Yeah, he from the KC Moe side Yeah But I mean, in terms of not necessarily entertainment But business people, I'm saying business people Yeah, it's probably more money over there And a lot of times in Kansas City, Missouri When we get successful, we tend to move to that side too We move to Overland Park and Lenexa and all of that shit over there That's where the money is Man And it's quieter, it's slow, you know what I mean Now, I'm not gonna, I mean, you know, you like to get We already in Kansas City, Missouri She always go through the background She be wanting to know about the young boy You know how he first started, right? I want to know all of that, you know, your mom, your dad Sure Were you a statistic? Because I call it statistic nowadays because everybody who's been coming on our platform Seems to only have one parent they were raised with Right It's like unusual to be raised with two parents in the house Right All type of things, so were you that statistic? I was Okay I'm an only child Yes, I was raised by a single mom I'm an only child I was raised Oh, there it is, right there, for sure They ain't playing no games about you I was raised by strong women, educated women They ain't playing about you And I was the first grandchild, so they doted on me I was treated like a little prince That's what I'm saying, they ain't not playing about you No So because you had a great, and just looking at what happened with you on the ride up You had a great life to me You know, as far as where you ended up To me Yeah, I mean, you know, nobody's immune to the trials and tribulations of life But yes, in terms of my formative years Yeah I was raised on love, not survival You know, I had a beautiful childhood The only reason I say that is because of the way that they're going to look at you Your mom, your aunt, the people in your family It's all females Yeah, they're going to say he did great with himself Yeah, for sure That's a good thing Yeah, absolutely Where was the male figures? Well, my dad was not far from me He was close, ironically But he wasn't, you know, I had a dad that showed up on 4th of July And not to shit on my dad I have to keep saying that because he's still alive But that's my lived experience, that's the truth Right He would show up on my birthday As long as you're alive, you can always still learn and change Right, and me and my dad, good We're good My mother passed away in 2010 But, you know, he would come on birthdays 4th of July You know, my mother held his feet to the fire I think my mother was the... My dad had seven kids by six different women He was married to my mother and my eldest sister's mother Hold on, hold on He was married to your eldest sister's... Yeah Oh, okay, my mom was going somewhere else Yeah, so I'm the only child by my mother All of us are only children Wow With the exception of one baby mama That he had And are you... Do you have close relationship with all your siblings? Not all of them Some of them I do And with the exception of my eldest I didn't meet a lot of them until I was a teenager or grown None of us grew up together So I didn't meet them Do you mean I look alike? Yes, me and my brother We look just alike Me and my sisters So you look like your daddy then I look just like my daddy Wait till I show y'all a picture Really? I'ma spit an image of him Wow Wow, that's dope, actually He was a handsome dude back in the day He was a womanizer, you know what I mean? He ain't gonna be mad He's still like that Seven kids by six baby mama Yeah, he got it popping Oh, man, my daddy's seventy-seven He's seventy-seven, seventy-eight He's still by some women He's still showing me pictures on his phone I have a sister That's twenty-two And her mother's younger than me My daughter is older than my sister So her aunt is younger than her Wow Yeah, my dad is a man Your dad again in the end Yeah, he a mess, man So, you know, just coming up during that time, man And I had looked and seen Where you had gotten in trouble when you was young When you hit that bump in the road You know, during your 14, 15 Let's talk about that a little bit Just a little bit Yeah, I think that's, you know You go through that phase where you kind of As my mother would say, start smelling your piss Yeah And some of that was, you know I came up in the crack era, the gang era You know, the gangs infiltrated Kansas City And, you know, you have that element You got the, and then, you know Not to make excuses But, you know, we didn't have the male figures And things like that We influenced by the culture The culture is destructive So that's why I always say I was being a follower Not necessarily of a person, but of the culture You know Yeah And yeah, man, we started doing our thing You know, we was And this is the killing part about it Looking back on it We all came from great households We was in the hood, right? I'm from the four block I grew up on 42nd and 10th You keep saying that But we got a spot called the four block And it's like, but y'all's with two C's And that's cool I'll let you rock You know, four block is really my people Y'all know what we're talking about It's a four block everywhere Shout out to the Sacramento X-rated And brother Lynch four block It's a four block everywhere But, um, and we all came from good families So we were kind of like just You know, just out there thugging Really just for the adventure of it Okay It wasn't out of survival I can be honest with you Because none of us really struggled with the shit You know what I mean? Like, we had great childhoods I'm just being honest, you know But I see where you guys had, y'all broke in You was the mastermind And you was the youngest one But you was the mastermind I'm like, this is horrible You need to research and run down But at any rate, man, you know, just Give me the And that's so crazy that you said he was the mastermind Because the first thing that comes to my mind Is that you said you were a follower of the culture And when I think about anybody who's a follower I don't usually think of them as being a leader So, you know, so you were like No, you can be You can be a leader, you know Within your immediate circle In your immediate circumstances But the culture as a whole You know, with the gangster rap Like, we didn't know I wasn't raised on Crips and Bloods And Selling Dope That ain't what I knew in my household But when I stepped down to my environment That's what I saw And so that's what you begin to mimic You know And it's a domino effect It's a ripple effect Some of it is psychological Because, like I say, you become afraid Right? So you start seeing your homeboys getting killed Getting robbed And different things like that So what you do You tool up Because you're afraid But then what happens is Then you kind of inadvertently Start perpetuating that same element You know And so now I start getting good to you You see the respect to come with it The honor to come with it Now you become the motherfucker You was probably afraid of Without even realizing it I'd seen it Like I said When I was looking into the mishaps You know, I was like, man, you know God, give you a second chance Yeah, for sure He gave me a couple of chances He gave you a couple of chances But that was one of the times Like I said When you got off of that case Where you could have gotten time And it could have been taken to the next level You know, just seeing you Walk past that was a blessing You know what I mean? Because we wouldn't have got that Which one of them It was a Kansas City chief We wouldn't have got a lot, bro I mean, because I was Man, I was 15 I was 15 And then I had a baby on the way You know, at the same time You know what I mean? And I'm in there looking at juvenile life I didn't take none of that shit serious, bro I didn't realize How deep of trouble I was in I didn't Until I went to court You know And they like And my DJO was explaining to me Because I'm thinking that My mama gonna come get me I'm like, I'm a juvenile Y'all can't do nothing to me It was like, what? It's like, boy, you in here with ACA Attempted murder, burglary, robbery All these felonies like, bruh Like, you fucked up So back then they could charge you for Yeah An adult? So at that time This was like 91, I believe They were still kinda going through this thing In Missouri of what to do with juveniles They committed adult crimes So they were gonna certify me Which basically, in essence Give me juvenile life Keep me in juvenile until I was old enough To get shipped to the penitentiary Gotcha So that's when it got real for me What did you feel at that time? I was scared, I was scared, man You know, I ain't gonna front Like, I put the face on In the front on Because, you know, I mean I was a badass, but not to that extent You know, I wasn't trying to be No career criminal, you know So when the judge told me That I was, he couldn't in good conscience Let me out, because I was a danger to society I remember going back to my cell And just kinda sitting on my bed And a tear trickled down my face Oh yeah, it can happen I was like, shit, this is the other side of it I didn't know, that was my first reference point Of the other side of everything I was doing So, you know, God smiled on me And I was able to, you know My dad got me a lawyer, is what it was And juvenile court works a little bit different They consider all these other variables I always did well in school and academically At the time, my mom was kinda going through A little something with, you know, in her life So they took all those variables I was the youngest one on the case So they painted the picture kinda like Oh, he just got mixed up with a bad crowd He's still a good kid, you know what I mean So they gave me another shot And that's when they, because I wanted to stay in jail When they told, yeah I was in there maybe about seven months Like who wants to stay in jail? Because they made me go and be on house arrest At my dad's house I hadn't lived with my dad I didn't know him like that So he's preferred to stay in jail and stay with your dad Yeah, I told him that When the DJ-O came and told me He said, hey, we got good news We gonna send you home But we gonna put you on house arrest at your dad's I was like, should I stay here? Because at that point I got acclimated, you know I'm like, man, we playing basketball for toast Toast in juvenile was off the chain I don't know what they put in it, you know what I mean So I got used to the regimen You know, I'm like, this is what it is I'm cool And she was like, no, you gotta go to your dad's And that was a little bit awkward Because, you know, I had a stepmother And again, it wasn't like me and my dad was estranged It was just that we hadn't, you know, cultivated That father-son dynamic We was just two niggas named Courtney living together Junior I'm the second You're the second Okay So how hard was it living with him? It was... He's trying to set you straight at this point So he was He'd say the conversation I had to have with him One time he did, he was trying to lay down some ground rules And he called himself trying to look up on me, right? And I remember telling him kind of respectfully, but sternly But I was still out of pocket as a child, a youngster I said, man, listen, bro, you didn't miss that time I said, dude, I just got out of jail I don't know if I'm going back and I got a child on the way You missed them days, bro So I tell you what, I'd be in this house I ain't gonna disturb y'all, but that you want me to come in at 6pm That ain't finna happen So, yeah Who else would? So how did he set you straight? Or did he just take it and be like, what up? No, he locked that door so I couldn't get in when he said So I could, yeah So he kind of forced me to fall in line with it But my dad never tried to put no muscle on me And nothing like that But it worked out And my stepmother was sweet She stepped in and she's a good woman She was a Christian woman So she kind of took me on And it had as rough patches as expected But then too, they were going through what they were going through As a married couple And she didn't sign up for that shit She didn't ever have no kids So not understanding They are already going through some shit and struggling Now here you got your wayward ass son Throwing in here with us And that just probably made the situation even worse But after that, you didn't go back through it With that situation for us The breaking in, you quit all that after that I quit all of that Yeah, the breaking in part But here come the streets We getting money now You already know Yeah, we getting money now You mind the stuff, shit wasn't appealing no more It wasn't appealing no more In the 90's man, you know I look at that time, man And I really look at People don't realize how it influenced the 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93 Those were some times, man It was a lucrative time It was And we were hurting our people And we didn't give a damn You know what I'm saying I'm being real I've seen it, bro And at the end of the day I didn't think about it though I was too young to care No You know what I'm saying I was too young to care You care? Yeah, no I didn't care Well, just to think about it I mean, you know I didn't have time to care Crack touched my household You know, as I'm sure everybody Yeah You know I'll be honest with you My game was weed And the reason that I went to weed Is because even then I seen the type of time They was giving niggas over Little shit You know, I seen When I was hearing about niggas Getting, you know, 15, 20 years For an ounce Or for a 16th to eight ball I'm like Nah That ain't That ain't worth it That was different for me I was like, niggas I'm doing this all the way I'm doing both, you know Yeah Like now Back then you did have A little bit of integrity Like I'm gonna just do This one or that one I remember those guys But I was like, nah Man, I want it all You know, I'm being real I was crazy, man I couldn't He remembered Juicy He remembered Juicy He didn't want to go back there Well, it wasn't that It was just that It just didn't add The money didn't add up At least how I seen For the time It just didn't add up You know, especially the cost Because I remember the numbers back then And I was doing the numbers And I'm like But you had a child too I did That was the difference But were you in the child's life at that time? Yeah Hell yeah I raised my child Just checking Because you were on the streets I'm still with the same woman That I have been with For 10, 15 Come on, man Start playing, man See, that's what I'm talking about I raised all my kids I'm with the same woman That I was with When I was Yeah I've been you as well I've been 20 years Don't set up there Yeah You've been with her 20 years Yeah She looked like she's 25 That's the way I do it You know what I'm saying It's good living Yeah, that's right That's right God, man That's all it is Black, don't crack And let you smoke, crack But so you basically was You was This dude crazy But you basically was One of those guys that You only dealt with You had buffers I mean And I remember those guys too The ones who really But then I also looked at The music You got into the music As well And that was a help I didn't give a dang But I didn't know music I should have been in music And that's what it was too, man Like even during my hustle days I was never really Born to lose as a nigga Like I always still kind of had I knew it was something more for me I didn't know exactly what But I did have the dream of music And see, I signed with P I got with No Limit in 95 So I graduated high school in 94 Whoa That was when you saw the girl with 18 Yeah, I was 18 What song? What rap? What was P? What was he doing? No, that was right I signed with P Right when 99 Ways of Die came out In TRU, the first true record Right before Ice Cream Man But I want to know What did he see in you Why he wanted to sign you Initially what it was I sent him a tape And I sent him a bunch of tapes Actually this is when he was still in the bay area I was rapping with my partner Cisco A group called CCG And we just didn't want to be local no more You know what I mean And so I sent the tape And I was just persistent I called his voicemail Back then he had a voicemail I would fill that bitch up So nobody else could leave voicemails Every day I made it my business To just call back to back to back to back to back And finally I got on his nerves And he figured if I was calling like that Then I meant what I was saying So he went and got the tape Listened to it And he called me And was like hey I'm doing down south hustlers You know y'all want to get down And I was like yeah And so that's how I started Like I was living with my dad at the time Because when he called He called and he asked for Courtney I didn't recognize the voice So I was like he ain't here He wasn't one of my home boys You know And so then he said Well tell him Pete called I was like No no no it was me I was like no no no That's me I'm here And he was like nigga You dodging somebody or something And I was like nah It was like my dad named Courtney And so it went from there So okay yeah you And so that was his initial intention Was to get you on down south hustlers Right right Now it was two of those Right it was two different ones It was a double disc Double disc That's what it was Double disc okay And you was on that thing And that was your first time meeting Pete That was my first time Being in a real recording studio That was my first time Being to the Bay Area That was my first time Being on the national record Okay That was my first time On a lot of shit Well who was in there When you recorded Because I called I'm going to tell you what I did I called my boy shout out KLC I called him Last night I said KLC Shout out the KLC I said this nigga court coming Man tell me about He said man he's a good dude I said he said he I'm coming up there He probably He said he's doing something He's coming up there Yeah we got that Saturday I'm going from here to there Yeah he told me he said He's coming up here He's going to come see me Sunday That's what he told us So you better come And if you don't I said nigga I'm coming In that bad room So let me tell you about KLC So when Pete flew us out to Oakland He had an apartment Where everybody stayed in Hayward And it was when I met Beach by the pound I met KLC, Moby Dick It was Mia, Servon All of them were in an apartment And KLC used to be so hard on me We ended up going out there To do the Down South Hustlers We did the song RIP So a lot of people Just putting together 20 some years ago That's me On the inside of the cover On the CCG cover So we ended up recording the album Out there as well It was the first time we got to meet Kalu Yeah We got beats from Al E And these are the folks That was doing shit for too short You know So we thought we made it It's up It's up It banks and all of it Yeah man This nigga KLC used to Like Like I felt like he used to Make me stay after class Like you know what I'm saying He would just stand I would be in there doing my verse And he would stand in the window And just look at me Do it again bruh Do it again bruh And he would just stare at me While I'd be And I'd be like Read my shit Like Why don't nigga stand in me Like KLC was so hard on me back then Do you appreciate it now? I did Of course He was trying to make me better He was trying to pull You know the best out of me Yeah For sure I like it man You know I heard so We told so many stories When he was on here man Yeah I just started to repost now Cause I didn't have No subscribers hardly I was like now I just started at that time I was like man This boy back up So I finished the story back Going through it Plus he gotta come back But anyway We talk all the time But it's just the fact of how People you know When you get to California You in there You do the down south What was What sticks out in those In that time period Just not Other than KLC What sticks out Being in the studio For the first time Where on people you really Didn't know Um I'll be honest with you Man it was just the whole Experience I mean you have to think You know we're kids I think I just turned 18 You know we had never Been to the Bay Area Um you know P was like No limit You know we didn't know The difference between A no limit And a major You know Yeah We thought we arrived You know Now there was a little bit Of internal confusion Just I would say With me and my Not me and my partner But you know The manager we had At the time He didn't really know What he was doing But he knew more than us You know what I'm saying He was older than us And it kind of It was a strange little Diacotomy because You know me and P Had such a We had developed And cultivated a close Relationship My partner and P They hadn't met They hadn't talked Until we actually Got out to California They was meeting For the first time So imagine me and P Are talking for months Before we go out there You the leader So by the time We get there You might not Even be the leader But in his eyes You are the leader You are the spokesperson Yeah But it was just the vibe Me and P are kind of Cut from the same cloth That's why we've been friends For so long But him and my partner They really didn't mesh You know just to say What it is You know I don't think My partner cared for him And P didn't care for him Is this the partner That sounded like him No That was I thought about that When you done that That was another one That would come in And out the group Okay That's what I thought When I was like This nigga sound Like he probably But this is another guy Yeah So why do you think that your partner Cause it's been a long time Yeah Do you see You and the guy still talk Yeah Do you ever confide In you and say Hey man this is what I really didn't like This guy What it was It was See I had The insight And the foresight To understand that We didn't have Any leverage You know it wasn't Like we had a big buzz Wasn't like we could Go to P and say Hey man You know jive Or sick with it And rap a lot Like some You know what I mean We didn't do that I understood that Him on the other hand You know Not that he was completely wrong He wanted to do business He wanted to do corporate business He was like Hey check this out And the manager at the time Was on the same shit He was like They came at P Like yeah so What kind of vans You talking about You know what's this The contract You know P Hustle He knew it P like nigga I'm giving y'all a chance Y'all niggas ain't nobody You know what I'm saying When she was right But then also You guys was right too It can be too wrong This is my point Just trying to be professional And trying to show But I knew that You're trying to do the right thing In the wrong situation I was thankful I was more thankful For the opportunity In my exact I remember us being in a hotel And we talked about it And we're 18 We don't have a reference point Of no music business We just going on common sense And I remember telling them I said bro I said let's just do it I said we don't What do we have to lose At this point You know what I mean Because if we do it And it does well Then we're going to get What we were At that point But right now We go back home We ain't got shit else to do Exactly You know so That was my position on it Yeah I like the fact that you At 18 was able to Converse like this Because at 18 Nigga we going to rob P You know what I mean You know in your mind Like at 18 18 No P We knew we couldn't do that With P Well at the end of the day I know we can't do it But it's hard bro You say that But then you The same 15 year old That was still in gun That's true That's true But you had grown matured Yeah Enough to know that And then I had I had already kind of You know established a Brotherhood with P So that's the difference That's the difference I looked at him Like I said when we met It was like we already Knew each other Yeah But him and my partner Meaned for the first time They talking for the first time Yeah So it was a little You know and then P was going through Different changes With no limit To having They were navigating Some internal shit too And then success hit him It was a lot going on It was a lot going on What was your This Okay Master P trying to figure All this out He young too Yes Exactly That's the part That everybody don't get I get so upset with people When they talk about Birdman Master P Even sugar I get upset about People when they talk About these young guys Who came into this Monitor This entrepreneurial Rap industry We was trying to figure it out Trying to figure it out So I get upset bro You don't even know I'm the same way bro I don't play about south anyway I'm going to be on the way I'm kind of throw it off You know what I'm saying I'm biased But that's one thing I get upset about I mean like man Nah man We ain't have much down here And when they For Peter even go From New Orleans up To California And then establish himself That's a whole lot Right there At the age he was And being a young father For him also helped So you and him Had a lot in common Yes exactly Exactly When we drank We was really workaholics We was focused We both were dreamers You know we both were athletes So yeah We had a lot of commonalities That you know Did P ever talk to you about When he was trying to go To the league and all that Or when he did play in the league I was friends during this time Yeah for sure How did What was some things That was messing with him During that time And I'll ask you that Kind of stick out Till your art was good For him during that time I mean that was Always his initial dream You know P was an athlete In a basketball player Before he was a rapper And a CEO That was his initial dream To his calling You know what I mean So for the rest of the world It was like Oh what Just think of trying to play Ball No that's what he started out Doing You know he only The music shit was a default That was like Fuck I gotta I gotta figure some other shit Out So that was just Him pursuing his dream Man He still does I see him play a little bit But now he's trying to Get into He's trying to get a Coaching job Yeah with the Lakers At this point You know and I know He tried with the Pelicans As well But he's He's entertained that as well You know what I mean But Romeo Romeo didn't take To it like that I thought at one point That that's what he was Gonna do too He did I see him try into it In USC Yeah I think that Yeah I think maybe his passion Was just more With movies Movies Yeah I seen him grow up Into a man Yeah As my son did Like I say I'm watching these things And when you When you see These are the things That you look at And you like man You know I can do it too I'm being real When you a person that's Of age And you know these guys Running about the same age You like kinda look at it And be like Yeah hell if they did Hell anybody can do it It gives you an opportunity To think that way You know what I'm saying So I appreciate you all For that for sure Cause y'all was hustling man Yeah man So how did that How did that double take That double I wanna say CD so bad But it was cassette tape No it was a double CD It was both It was both though Wasn't it Cause in that time You could do both He was the first one To do that He was the first one to do I remember that And I'ma tell you what threw me off Cause I called Bobo Luciano About it And he said it was two I'm like no it was a double I said no it was double One thing about me I really was I really bought that You know what I'm saying I invested my money into that I was buying the two And I had them You know what I'm saying And it was dope You know just being A UGK fan For sure Always you know Always just always Was watching what he was Doing Because all that Louisiana In Texas Right by each other Right So how did you Your first time going down to Louisiana Louisiana with him Cause you did go down there How was that Like cause you went from Kansas to California Back down to You had to go visit Louisiana Well no So when they When he was in the bay I was Cause you gotta think I'm like Square tank no limit You know You have different phases Of no limit You know what I mean I'm what you would Consider a lifer So I'm square tank When he went back to Baton Rouge They went to Baton Rouge No I was still in Kansas City Okay so you went back To Kansas City To Kansas City Yeah And then How long did you stay in Kansas City Until I moved to LA In 2001 How many years were you In Kansas City Maybe Five after that You was a celebrity Oh A good celebrity Yeah I mean yeah Maybe a little Yeah you a celebrity I ain't gonna I ain't gonna Put the tin on the tube You know what I'm saying No limit Yeah These niggas is working Yeah they knew me I mean You know I had Hood You know I was In for me Hood In for me too Yeah Cause some people didn't Respect Or were jealous Cause jealousy is At home man Yeah I'm used to that You had the rivals You had people I still to this day Really? Yeah We old man I mean you gotta Think No but You got them too Yeah you got them too Everybody can You know they Presumable what your life is For social media Oh yeah And they draw their own conclusions And you got motherfuckers Looking at your profile Just steaming mad I know that They make fake accounts All of that I see them too How do you deal with all of that Oh it's hard But he been dealing with a long time I'ma tell you What happens is You know for one You just have to be rooted And grounded in who you are You know you understand That everybody has an opinion You know social media It's a lot of mental illness Out here too There's a lot of people That just you know You might have somebody Leave a negative comment And they somewhere In a basement With a helmet on Sitting in some tidy whiteies You know what I'm saying Yeah You know half retarded And you know I don't mean that I get it But you know So I get It's a gift And a curse With social media You know You just have to know Who you are And be grounded In who you are And you can't You know have Yourself worth Caught up in other people That you don't know So you can't please everybody You know now I've had to run down On a few people That I knew loosely That was talking Crazy on social media You got to get some Straightening with them Because sometimes You know if Certain people play with you And try to create a narrative You know it's like In school Then everybody else Think they can do that That's what we're learning How to do We're learning how To pick and choose Who to respond to Exactly Exactly Because at first You take the higher road And be like But you realize That there's some people You do have to You do have to check Absolutely You know it depends On their influence It depends on How many people paying Attention to them Because you know The truth can stand still While a lie runs a marathon You know what I mean So sometimes You got to get in there And put an alternate narrative Out there And you don't got to Stay with it But you just got To make a statement That's what it is That's what I said I think the most Important thing Is definitely chess Not chess Absolutely I'm a God-fearing person So always The steps of a good man Is all about the Lord For me So I basically Walk in purpose, man Amen I always say, man You got to be a purpose Chasers Walk in purpose, man Yeah, like so Everything I'm doing Is pretty much being articulated For longevity For us to be In the game a long time You know what I mean For sure And to keep the young boys Straight too You know God put these people In this hole Under this umbrella So we wouldn't get rain On them So I'm rocking with them So at the end of the day, man We just got to do What we know to do And keep it moving Help our people Help the culture That's what you're doing You know what I mean That's why I like your platform That's why I was telling you Thank you, man You know We tried How we doing up in here, man You showed up You seen it On social media But seeing here We cut people off We talk We have a good time Nigga be like Let him talk I be having a good time I tell you They do the same shit to me I do I see some of the comments They're like Well, why don't you shut up You know sometimes I be wanting to get in this Shut the fuck up I don't say nothing I do too, man I don't say nothing I be wanting to say Boy, if y'all really could I wish I could just hit the button And talk to you, boy But you know what I'm going to tell you something If people's Real-time location And information Was attached to their comments It wouldn't be No fucking comments No Everything would be You're great You know it Man, people just be You know But sometimes what I can't stand Is you know how we all Clip up Or interviews And people would say Something about a clip Drop the whole interview I'm not even just that You get that too Or they'll say something And I'm like Just wait for the whole interview And you see Exactly You can't draw a conclusion From just this one little clip Exactly Just wait You know what I do That's when I get to Dry snitchin' on Vlad I be like Man, Vlad be on Clip 42 And you over here Fuckin' with me But I think it's because I think it's a thing where I don't know I don't listen to them I know already For me And I say this for all the people Who watch it Man, is that I know that the engagement On a clip Is better than an engagement On an hour-long video For sure So I'm just trying to make sure That I Because this is a computer That we're dealing with This is not human people Exactly So you gotta make sure You calculate your moves Correct? Yeah, for sure Starting up On an hour-long video I didn't even know And then I was reading That some little white kid Was like Do you know you can do that I'm like, damn He read me Yeah, but you know what It's preference I've had this conversation Because I'm being In the same lane And it's preference Because me myself When I see some shit That's two hours long I don't want to watch it I'm not watchin' it I prefer the clips To be very honest with you So it's preference You have people That'll be on my But then What it is Is they get antsy When it's good But then You can't You will sit down And watch that Two-hour episode Because you're like No, you know it's gonna be A very good interview I think I don't know which one of them Will I tell somebody this morning I say, you know, really The clips Is like cutting up a steak For you Right I'm cutting you a steak And I'm giving you the good parts I'm not letting you Eat the bone You know what I'm saying I see me My analogy was different I was like You know, we whipping this thing You know I'm stretching it Yeah It is stretching it And chopping it up That analogy But I'm trying to be nice Turning one to two No, but my analogy is Of when you're watching A TV sitcom TV And you know how they always End it at that spot And be like, okay, I can't wait Till next week At least that one You're waiting till A whole week To see it And you're mad You're mad because You wanna see the rest of them Like Why do I have to wait Till next week That's why I love my daughter Putting me on to anime And when you're reading You can actually pay To watch the next week one Now We can do that with options I'm gonna put that option together Plus two I mean, Blaz is doing it Blaz is definitely doing it You can only watch up to A certain amount that they drop So if they only drop five But then we reach the five You're still left at a cliffhanger You're like But at the end of the day That's a good thing Because it means that The content is resonating That's the only thing They just want it They want it You know So you know you're Doing something right You're doing something right I wanna push over To the But at any rate, man I wanna talk about The Cat Williams incident Because that's a I don't wanna talk about it alone I'm not gonna do you Like that But I do wanna talk about There's a couple of things In there I've seen That was a fat guy That was Derrick I'm thinking that was Faizon It wasn't I sure was wanting to make it I was gonna tell him You know, I called It was like, say, niggle It was you It wasn't Faizon But it was a fat He said fat comedian Fat comedian Like, who was that? Who was that? Who was that? He wasn't a known one Was Cory Holcomb fat? No, it wasn't Derrick Fat, he kind of built No, I wasn't Cory But okay, but if you got the right name Would you say? No, he ain't gonna tell You wouldn't even know the name If you got the right name, I would So you're not a popular person? No He was popular on the Like the local L.A. scene He was trying to get a job With, I guess, helping To write for Cat You know I believe so I believe that's what he was Bro, but let me just ask you Man, why is you out here Playing basketball Taking this boy to the hoop? I wish to have phones back then Man, listen No, we did This was Man, this was 2000, maybe 14? Y'all had phones But you didn't record The niggas weren't recording Like that You got to think, man Cat was a And listen, this is the thing about Cat With this photo, 15-year-old choked him This was before that This was before that That was a hell of a fight, man That was before that So you sent him into that shock Man, that whooping Sent him on into that He was going already, though I think he had I think he was having A just breakdown During that time Yeah, for sure It's pressure, man I mean, it's the thing about it Me and Cat were really Type friends Cat was in my first movie That I produced I had produced a movie Called Young American Gangsters He was Cat Williams at the time So he could have charged me He could have been on Some Hollywood shit, but he didn't He showed up for me Gave me the whole day For nothing, you know what I mean? Wow So, I know Cat Cat is a good dude He has a great, great fucking heart You know what I mean? Sometimes He's got a great fucking He's a great dude He tried to buy him some shoes He was like, man I can't let you buy me No shoes That's what I thought He told me that story Man, listen, bro I can remember when he was into it With Faizan When I was with Cat, you know And him and Faizan was beefing Or he had beef with Faizan's brother Was that when he put a gun on him? The empty gun He was out No, I wasn't there I wasn't there What would do that? Why would someone do that? That's crazy This is one thing about Cat, man Cat, I don't care He might still be mad at me But that's my nigga That's my brother Cat a little nigga But Cat, Cat will go He got heart Cat don't care Win, lose, or draw Like that shit with Will Smith And Christian and I That shit would have went different That shit would have went different Gratting nigga That ain't gonna stop Cat would have got dead on his ass No I promise you I promise you He doesn't seem like a person That's just all mouth And nothing behind No, no, no I don't think that No, Cat gonna crash out He gonna crash all the way I see him fight that little boy Look, if you fight that little boy It don't matter who No, he don't care about losing Cat gonna go He don't care about losing He gonna try He gonna try Okay, so he went ballistic After you hit that ass What was it, level? Y'all went one to a level Yeah, we were playing When you hit the level Look, look What was it? Was it a layup? Or was it a jumper? Nah, nah I posted him up So I used the body on him Cause you know He got the speed Cat fast You know He wasn't him Little niggas So you posted him up and gave it I posted him up I mean you gotta think I'm a hundred pounds heavier than him I'm a foot and a half taller than him You know So I told him I'm a foot and a half I'm a foot and a half Yeah Yeah, about a foot and a half He just He's walking the nigger to the goal Yeah Walking him to the goal I walked him down And we were playing Think about it We were playing for Desert Eagles Bro, playing for guns I know And so once I beat him I told him I said, man, you can keep Your little raggedy gun And he went ballistic on me Bro Aw, man, I love it, man Because he had it And he didn't shook back A little bit Yeah He didn't shook back to where He ain't even focused on Crap no more So you must have I don't know You know, that lifestyle Has to be tough on all y'all Yeah Let me be real Yeah, for sure Because everybody's always looking And you're trying to Hold your composure Throughout every single Incident, man Yeah, I'ma tell you what it is I think sometimes Especially in today's day and age Yeah Yeah, I think Like what I learned from P And what I And I think why we're Kindred spirits is See, you have some people That don't know how to turn off Right Yeah See, for us, it's a job You know, like I'm not big court Every day all day Just when I When it's time for that When I go home, I'm courting You know, when I'm Out doing what I'm not You know, so Where you have some people That they're That celebrity Or that, you know Brand or whatever All day, every day They never turn off And that's where you Lose yourself Yeah You become that You know what I'm saying So that's where I think some people Struggle Like I think cat I mean, you know I don't know for sure But I know people That were close to him For him, it was more Of a mental chemical thing You know what I mean I've never seen cat do drugs I was around him a lot I've never seen him do no drugs No dope, nothing like that That's just him naturally Yeah, I think it was just Whatever, you know He gets in these manic states Or whatever, you know what I mean Because I think he did Have bipolar or something like that So that's why I was able to get past Our little thing I charged it to his mind And not his heart Because I know his heart You know, I've seen him Give jewelry to people I've seen him give money To people I've seen him give cars To people You know what I mean Just because they needed it You know And he's never wanted the You know, the accolades for it And nothing like that He's a good dude He'll help you with your career If he can, you know what I'm saying Now, he's not perfect Now, I mean He's not above doing some fuck shit You know, but For the most part He's a good dude He's a good dude That's what matter, man Like when you can see Because people put people in boxes I say this on a lot of episodes We can't do that You know, because People are always evolving So you can't just give up On a person here Leave him there forever Nah, man And I think that's why people Make their biggest mistake at old people I think that's a sense of immaturity Like I always say And Because you got to let people Grow and evolve, man Absolutely Don't hold them back And none of us are in a position To condemn anyone Come on, man Come on, man That's why I always say I leave with grace and mercy You know what I'm saying Because I know I need it You know, I'm not infallible Fuck I know I fuck up all the time And I made misspeak And need somebody to You know, forgive me for some shit So All day long I know I'm the one, man I'll mess up in a minute, nigga I will be having to call you And tell you, I'm sorry, man I went off on it Boy, I shouldn't have did that, man I should have just chilled, bro I just did that Just when we was talking about it I had to run down to nigga In Kansas City For talking shit on social media It felt good in real time But then after the fact I was like Damn, that was wrong I should have did that I should have did that Nigga had his kids with him Yeah You know, and I'm out here And while I'm doing that My fuck is just seeing me Like, man, can I get a picture? So I'm taking a picture Then going back to arguing with Disney You know what I mean? And I was like And somebody videotaping that argument I guarantee you I don't think, I don't know It ain't came out yet But what it was Is I felt irresponsible Because I created a scenario That could have went bad For both of us Yeah You know, I could have did Something to him He could have did something to me Over some bullshit, really Yeah You know, I was right In standing on what I was standing on But at the end of the day How you react to the situation Right In front of you Because in life We are tested every day Yeah In different ways And I always tell everybody We don't live our lives for ourselves Right And at the end of the day You don't know what he went through What he's been going through Right To make him lash out at somebody else For sure True story So by you showing Being a bigger person That's a lesson that he could take And pass that along to somebody else Right You know what I mean? Right, hopefully Hopefully I was in the real You know We're human too You know, I try to be better I try to rise above You know And I don't think it was necessarily A disreputable moment for me But when I see him The next time I see him I am going to pull him to the side And say, hey my nigga I meant what I said But I was wrong for pressing You like that And creating that environment Intimidation And it could have got ugly You know what I mean? Yeah And I opened the door for that And I actually was like Shit, we can do that You know But I was in my feelings You know At the end of the day We all can get caught up in a moment And yeah We have to figure it out As we go, man Ain't nobody perfect, bro Right So that's the whole game You know, I know For sure But yeah Yeah I was looking at How And was it really true I got to go to the cab for a minute You said that You was riding When you was leaving After you had to hit that last point And you bow guarded him That somebody came up behind you It was him And just nailed you from the back Man Just rear-ended the car Like boom Yep Rear-ended my car Did it total it? Yeah, they end up totaling it out But you kept going I kept going But the car How much damage the gas You know, on the movies It would have blew up He was in an escalade He was in an escalade I was in a That year Tahoe Okay And you know My survival instincts Kicked in Because it was on a real dark street Okay You know What was y'all at again? In Milibu Okay Yeah, we was on a dark street He could have killed you Yeah, absolutely he could have Yeah, absolutely he could have So when he hit you You basically Now you don't know who it is at the time Well, no So what happened was As I was leaving I felt something Because before Prior to me hitting the game point Which we knew was going to happen He went He had somebody go call some people Okay And I kind of was like You know, I know this shit And I heard you say at the time Sugar was his manager Sugar was his manager All this had enough for me Yes, yes Right, right And so By the time that he had Them go call someone It was probably Maybe almost an hour So they had enough time To get there And they did And so When I hit the corner It was like a Bentley Parked to the side With the dome light off But the door opened Okay So now mind you Canaan is a desolate street Especially at night It's dark It's a signal ain't well That's where Kevin Hart Accident Oh, really? Yeah And so I figured You know, I know what it is I figured maybe it was on some Bullshit I can be a cheerleader For foolishness So I rolled my windows down Thinking that Okay I just got to get down Out of the car You know So when I rolled by the Bentley I had already level You know I had the FVN 570 Oh, yeah You weren't trying to hear You know what I'm saying So Didn't nothing come from it So I was like Okay But there was still a little Something I didn't see headlights Just coming fast as hell In a In a review mirror And Yeah, I didn't know That it was an escalade I thought it was that Bentley Because it was coming so fast Yeah And it just I thought they were going to Come on side of me And they just ran it To the back of me And it was just like A gust of smoke My ears started ringing You know And the car almost The airbag didn't go off Nope The airbag didn't go off Thug, man Yeah, man I never knew it was him No, no I never knew it was him This is wild So Well So what happened was So You know My survival instincts kicked in I said, okay, it's dark out here Let me keep going Yes, sir So I kept going The car was And so it was another car that came Oh, man You know And so, yeah You know what I mean Yeah, yeah At that point You had to let them know Back up Exactly Back up So I had to get them up Off of me And so What did the car behind you Did it stop? Well, nah When he hit you Yeah, because he told it He told it He had to stop right there It was done Yeah, it looked like he hit a train This is what somebody told me Yeah Man, the front of it looked like He hit a train They never would come in with it Man, he was cutting ass, bro And so I had to get them up off of me Then these fools came back Like And then I had Thank God for the FN Yeah, because they They wasn't trying to hold that They wasn't trying Yeah, so It wasn't nothing out there To even put an outside on it No No, that's what I'm saying It's we on a windy road Yeah So all this time You're a heck of a driver Yeah Man, listen On Star was talking to me the whole time I didn't even realize it I thought maybe I was dead or something You know what I mean? You got God talking to you Yeah, because they was like Yeah, sir, are you okay? We see you in a high-impact collision Do you need help? And they said it about six times Before I realized what it was Cause your adrenaline is running My adrenaline is going And then, you know When you in those type of situations You know, you get tunnel vision You focus on other things And you get tunnel vision And your ears go numb You know, it's the adrenaline So finally I was like Oh, I was like, yeah I was like, I got hit But, you know I didn't want to stop I start making up some excuses and shit They was like, would a police Are waiting on you When you come out Cause, you know It was a windy road So they said When you come out there Waiting on you I was like, oh, shit Cause I didn't know What the status of these Other things was You know what I mean? So I had to stop and You know what I'm saying Dump the whoop the whoop And whoop the whoop So they weren't still chasing you At this point? No, they backed up We made them get back Yeah, you know what I mean? Thank God for that So the police met me And they didn't know What they just knew It was an accident And they were like, damn So I remember them looking at me Looking at my physique And they was like, damn, bro And looking at my car And they was like, man If you wasn't built Like how you are You probably would have been hurt Hurt, yeah But all this shit was hurting It was hurting It was titan shit Yeah, the impact Yeah And so I felt it The days come I bet You know what I mean? So I ended up going home And I'm calling Kat Calling Kat He wasn't answering But I kind of knew You know, it was some fuck shit Mixed up in there But come on, man You know that And you know Kat Wasn't for that phone Yeah, he never did You haven't talked to him To this day for me So listen This is the thing about I want to hear if you talk To him ever I did one time Where? On IG Live You were live together No, it was Who was live first You know, he was live And you jumped on So this is what happened If y'all remember that period Where he was going live And he was going in On Kevin Hart every day Yeah, yeah It was doing that period And I just happened to tap in On one of his lives Right And I said something I forgot what I said But I seen him He kind of looked at it Like, oh And so I think I said Bring me on, nigga You know what I mean? And he pulled me in He pulled me in It was an awkward exchange Because this is exactly what we said He never looked at the camera He wouldn't look at me But we were talking in code It was funny because I said Yeah, bro I said, you know, we need to wrap Like, you know, you need to Hollad me He was like, I avoid you And so I was like That's what he said I avoid you And I was like Why, bro? You don't have to You know And I was like If I wanted something to happen It would have happened already I said, you know, we can holler, bro And he was like He said, when you met me or something He said what What was I? I said, you was you You was a comedian I said, when you met me What was I? He said, when I met you You were a gangster You know I tried to This is what he said This is what he said And so That's a true story This is a true story And then Somehow or another It clicked off It went on But the comments People was like Hold up That was a real nigga conversation That was some real shit going on Because I didn't expect him to pull me on I was laying in the bed You know what I mean But that's the only time That I have talked to him after that You did I heard about the Kansas incident When he decided to go to Kansas City, Missouri Yeah I was still in my feelings Yeah, yeah, yeah But just how long after that, though? Shit, that was maybe Two years Yeah, you would try Two years This was before the call Before the online Yeah, this was before Yeah, before that But that night you let it go You said that After that incident where That was a God thing I let it go That was a God thing Yeah, yeah But the way you explained that Yes For his mom to be there Yeah, yeah That was a God thing And even if you think about The guy that was there That I had Being the son Yeah, he got killed last year Are you serious? Yeah Wow See? Yeah, so Are you still in touch with the mom? Yeah, here and there Here and there But, yeah, man It was, yeah That was I was still in my feelings That was my ego And people around me was telling me that You know, they was like, Bro, leave that nigga alone Like, they told me They was like What piece? Leave him alone I know what piece he is He been told He said, dude He told you don't go He told me don't go to the first place When it happened He was like, nigga, I told you About fucking with that nigga Like, you know what I'm saying You know what I'm saying And I'm like, yeah, bro But that's my boy I didn't think he'd do it to me He was like, nigga, he crazy You know what I'm saying But Pee got a lot of love for Kat too You know, he really does And we all do Like I said, it was just that period But, like I said I always will have a love And a respect And a, you know Somewhat of an allegiance to Kat Yeah Because of, I know who he really is Yeah, yeah, yeah So we'll have our time This is what I call a part It was somebody else who did that Right I had to let time go by Right, to realize that To receive that, yeah I gotta get you I gotta move forward to this I'm jealous of you Uh-huh You didn't interview the greats You interviewed Ice-T Oh, yeah You interviewed Shout out to Ice-T You interviewed Jay Prince Jay Prince Respect, nigga Respect That's the one I've been shooting for I got all kind of little old ways I'm trying to get him on the show All the little jobs I've been really working You don't even realize it All the interviews I do Evolve around the fact I gotta get Jay Prince On this platform I think it'll happen one day But how do you be in Texas Doing what we're doing And not even getting him on there We gotta get him We gonna get him Yeah, you'll get him We gonna keep working Yeah, you'll get it I think it's just a time That they just reach out to him Yeah I wanna make it right, though It's a few people bummed be It's certain ones that I have For sure I have access to reach out to But I'm working to make sure Like everything I do Is set up in a way Where I feel like This is where I wanna be I told you I'm gonna recalculate my steps Yeah, for sure But I know it's been a blessing To be able to calculate our steps You know, but how was that, man? With Jay Prince You guys have a long running relationship Because I've heard Pee say That that was one of his influences So how was that And what were you trying To get out of interviewing him Man, the thing about interviewing Jay Prince That was definitely on my bucket list And I was fortunate enough Like I said, I only been In this game eight months So I started off with the bucket list But you're killing it You're working to me over Over Yeah Actually, Julia Beverly She quarterbacked that for me Yeah, we're working already Oh, Julia Yeah, go ahead Shout out to the whole girl, Julia Julia Beverly, man Julia Beverly Shout out to Julia Beverly Yes, yes She's supposed to be on the show Okay, that's the whole girl I'm working, I'm working That's my partner And so, man I told Jay You know, I grew up with Rappelite And I remember I told Jay I said I remember when You was James Smith You know So I was studying Jay And really in easy E Before I even became You know, aware of Pete You know what I'm saying For the music Yeah, for the music And just I don't know Jay was always an enigma And I was always kind of Fascinated with who he was And how he moved Even as far back as the Ghetto Boy records I didn't even know, man You didn't? I knew But I was so caught up In Scarface lyrics, man See, no, but this is the thing When you go I go back to the Ghetto Boys As far back as making trouble You know what I'm saying Yeah, me too So back then you remember When you were by the tape, bro You would read the credits You would see all of that So when I would hear his voice And I put it together He was Jay, Lil' Jay Lil' Jay Smith And it was just something The bottom that I gravitated toward You know So as the years went on And as I got older And understood who he was I always wanted to know more So I followed So of course Being with Pete Then I get an extension Of that love And that access You know what I'm saying So always studied him In easy E And even shook to an extent You know what I mean I studied them I'm a student again Did you meet Easy? No But what I didn't almost tell you Was we almost went to Rufus Before No Limit We actually wound up at No Limit I heard you say that We wound up at No Limit Just because Easy died But easy E That was the one When you said Man, I got no tell I did do no tell I didn't even use it I like organic And I don't want the same Interview I've ever had But you know what I hate about that Because I do the same thing too And everything can be flowing And you enjoy yourself And when you're done And you look back Can't you notice I couldn't ask that I'm gonna work him over Don't even trip I got something for him Over here Yeah, yeah, yeah I got something for him Over here Look at that list You see That's all I'm talking about all of that So I'm ready for him Yeah Now let's talk about the Rufus How you was You kept on calling And it was a lady And wherever she is today We don't know Cassandra where Where is she at today We don't know But we're looking for you She's still around Because Lil E told me She's still around Oh yeah So you gotta send us some You know roses Flowers or something Just say thank you man She was super nice She didn't have to be Yeah That lady would talk to me I would call and shit And be like man Easy E there You get our tape She'd be like Yes Courtney We got your tape We got all five of them He's gonna get it He's on tour right now So finally she had hit me So you took our persistence With you The same persistence That's where I got it from Yeah that's where I got it from I was getting on folks nerves I didn't care You know what I mean And so Yeah we And so finally she had told me Yeah easy listen to your tape They really like it Somebody are being touched with you And yeah Probably maybe three months After that he passed away Wow So yeah I went back To the drawing board So what did you like about Easy E Easy E was once a dog From around the way You know what Yeah My favorite Easy E song Is probably that No more questions Okay You know what I'm saying But I mean There was a bunch of them People don't realize That was the time when He was dropping stuff too Back to back He was doing that And even after him Andray them fell out Or whatever He always kept going With the music After he took off with Yeah for sure I know the movie Straight out of Compton Was definitely enlightening But I'd like to see a Carry on of how easy Really From his perspective Yeah that would be dope Absolutely yeah And I hope they get that Done His son Yeah Me and Lil E cool That's my partner Yeah so yeah They working on I would love to see that happen Because I was a big fan Of that too Yeah you know What it was man I don't It was just the aura I guess I always had a CEO Inside of me Before I realized it You know what I'm saying And I think that Just how Lil Jay And Easy How they carried it You know from Being the rap The street shit I could just Identify that shit When I was young And I was enamored by Lil P With P It's the same thing It's the same type of spirit Same thing Same spirit So I just gravitated Toward that So I was always intrigued By Easy And even Ice T Same thing You know because When I heard Ice T was the first Gangsta rap record That I heard which Was squeezed to trigger Yeah You know what I mean But that the one When she had that Nice outfit on this girl No that was power That was power Yeah that was power With the black on it Yeah No he had on the blue suit I know because I have big 5x5 Paintings in my house It was a long time ago So I'm like That's my first You know we didn't have The phones like everybody We had the covers That's all we had Exactly Now you have with the covers You know what I'm saying So you still got it I have paintings In my house I have 5x5 Oil paintings 5 feet by 5 feet Of Ice T's power I see it every day Of the front cover In the back But serious about it Yeah Did you tell I didn't even get that I got to get more into That interview Because you got What it was is You know these were things That were really influential As I was growing up You know what I mean Like power Like that album cover Because what it was is Like when I heard Ice T He was painting me a picture Of what I was seeing Happening in my community You see I didn't have Any older brothers and shit So when I'm seeing dope houses In the gang shit And I'm seeing people Cuzzing me And blood me I'm not really understanding The context But when I hear Ice T Oh that's what's going Oh a high roller Oh dope Selling Oh that's why these motherfuckers Across the street Oh Dayton's vote Okay I see That's what it is You see what I'm saying So where Ice T Kind of came from A perspective of Like a reporter Like this is what it is This is the game But when I heard EZ E and NWA These motherfuckers sound Like they was the people He was talking about You know what I'm saying That makes it Like yeah Oh these the gang bangers You know what I'm saying Colors man I remember whoop Those minigas After the movie After colors man We whooped Y'all had the gang Y'all had the gang shit Here and down Come on man The gang stuff has been Everywhere I was down by Streetport So it was real down there Like Streetport was one of those Places man Where we seen the gang I was actually From six miles on the Texas side But streetport was Like twenty something Miles away So I seen All of that I was hustling And going into these Neighborhoods Where I was seeing I'm a hustler So I went into it But I seen it You know what I'm saying I see you over there I'm going over to the hood You know what I'm saying I was trying to hear that Easy was the same way I mean he was affiliated With Neighborhood And Kelly Park But you know He migrated and functioned With all the sets Cause he was a hustler I gotta ask you Do you think that Cause I had asked Melvin Farmer Had them on the show And who was it I wanna say it was Nino Cappuccino From Bounty Hunters Bounty Hunters I asked him And I had a guy On here that Was from Texas And it was like Do you think that They respect What's going on Outside of LA Like that I just never seen I think it's a thing Where you can be a part of it When you go to that town When you in your town When you from where that's at I just don't know About the genuineness of it I'ma tell you I have a thought on that too I know what you mean It's definitely watered down That's what I'm thinking It is watered down Even where I'm from I'm from the four block It's a Crip Neighborhood It's colonized By the sixties And East Coast Crips From LA It's watered down That's what I was thinking But then I'ma tell you what Where it gets corny to me I can understand When you have Independent sets Like a nigger in Kansas City Claiming Hoover That don't make sense to me That's what We don't have a Hoover street Or Claiming Grape Street That's corny and shit But you understand that Something but don't They just gone with it That's corny Now if we Crips I don't know about that This is some Kansas City shit I gotta say My cousins from Forties And they came My first cousins from Forties, Crenshaw And they come straight to My hood And say That's what we rockin' with Yeah Then I had to be like That's what we rockin' with Yeah, see, but I think that's corny But just see what I'm sayin' They're from there That's different If you're from there No, I'm talkin' about The niggas this The locals No, my cousins are from there Yeah But they come to my Right Sisters kids And they keep coming Every summer We gotta fight Every summer I'm shooting and fighting And stillin' my guns And takin' them back to LA And I'm like Man, I don't know I think I know I put some work in Yeah Yeah But I'm only claiming it Because of them Yeah So you were Like me I was affiliated You know what I'm sayin' I never And it's so funny Cause people will argue this But I've never been Like a Crip I've never been the one To bang What's up Cous Niggas on Crip You know No I never did that He was fighting on that But then I got they back That's right So I get sucked into it You know what I'm sayin' But no I've never been a gangbanger Man, that's crazy Because you would think Being in LA like that And kids just gettin' influenced Oh, here you go With the blue rag You can't catch me With the blue rag But see then Somebody would pull up a video That I had That from like 2000 I had on a blue rag shirt The shirt was like The blue rag Snoop Dogg Yeah, just like Snoop Dogg I had that in like 99, 2000 So, you know I was just affiliated I never was a gangbanger You wanna get I have one question Before Yes, ma'am Okay All that you've been doing Ever since you was What, 18 Coming up Can we all gotta go one day But if there is one thing That you want everybody To remember you for What would that thing be Wow That's a heavy question Well You know I think that I would want my life To be a testament of You know Overcoming You know And I would say You know When I got into Doing the podcast Right I wanted to Really show the Balance And show that Niggas can't evolve You know I wanted to represent The evolved nigga From the hood You know Like when people ask me About my show I say It's nigga shit And black excellence All in one There it is I just want to I would want people to know That anything is possible I'm just a Kansas City boy That had a dream You know what I'm saying And No reference point Of anything that I ever You know I built businesses Outside of entertainment You know That were successful I built a multi-million Dollar real estate portfolio You know I have other Businesses that are Successful outside of Entertainment I'm not formally educated I graduated high school So I would want people to Look at me And see me as a testament That Anything is possible If you put your mind to it You know You put your trust in God You put the work in You know And you make the Necessary changes Because putting the work in Is not just doing the work It's also being able To make the necessary changes And be pliable And doing the research And doing the research You know Doing the work You know And I always say Inconsistency You know Consistency is more Important than perfection Any day Right So I would want that To be what people saw Like wow This dude And like I said I'm not perfect You know And I've been able to I've overcome a lot You know I'm sure there are other Stories that are Worse than mine You know Everybody has a story But you know I've had to You know I've buried Probably You know Three four dozen friends You know Lost family members Buried a mom You know I had children Early in life You know Having a wife Having a family And having to navigate You know Right Right And then You know Learning how to really Be a man behind closed doors Some of that shit You figuring out You know In real time You know You putting the front up You acting like You know what you're doing But behind closed doors You trying to figure Shit out You know I mean Cause I don't have a Reference point of What a husband Looks like You know Yeah Or any of that Like Even with my son When I first had The affection shown to me By a man Other than my father-in-law Once I got grown But You know I didn't know I never had a man Tell me he loved me Or hugged me Or embraced me So shit I was giving my son Dappin' shit It felt awkward at first Like I guess I'm supposed to It's not natural So I had to Peep that within myself And do the work And say Damn That's why you like that So now I mean He's 22 I hug him And kiss him all the time You know To evolve Being open to evolution And changing You know That's why a lot of niggas Be stuck man They be stuck Mentally You know And emotionally They don't have The mental and emotional Fortitude They haven't allowed Themselves to You know Evolve like that You just That's dope man I'm We the same The same thing All our brothers So much alike It's so funny to me But we try it Like we so different But we Dang man You know Hold up man Money Moses is coming in man This is a youngster Right here man I got to keep me A young man around me Man This brother was He helped me pull this Old table up in here Yeah That's when it's real This is Money Moses Man he from Louisiana Monroe man Okay He been on here before right He always here Okay now I'm about to say When I seen him I say he helped me Drag this table in here I was like I've seen dude before It's on this show Yeah Because of this show Because I always bringing me in You know God put him in my life And so that's That's one of the things That he He ain't listening to many people But he gonna He gonna listen to me And my brother Yeah And You get it There you go Yeah Go ahead I commend you on that brother You know what I'm saying I'm just always do that man Spread knowledge, wisdom And understanding Especially to the youngsters Yeah man You got to man Because if you don't I can see What are you doing man You ain't gonna leave nothing here And this is what I say man People don't They don't remember What kind of car you draw What kind of jewelry you have People remember How you made them feel You know what I mean That's my father RIP to my pops man That's the whole game Like people The way he His impression was On people I still hear that every time I'm like you My name is the same as he is So at the end of the day You know when I'm around people That's one of the things That sticks out They don't always speak on it