 We are here with SPM Buzz, Fadi Kenya, Vicky Vickina, LK Show, Benny Experience and many other shows. We are here with Banya Sila, the one and only gospel artist in Kenya and international. We are here to talk to him and get to know, he's been in Kenya for almost 10 days now. And we are here to ask him how he's been around the gospel industry. Banya, you can introduce yourself for the 90th time. Banya Sila is my name, Kenyan, living in Europe, doing what we do best. That's gospel music. Maybe you shared us, we're here, we were doing international night of worship. You shared some light, how is it been, where have you gone so far, what have you been able to do and where are we here tonight and what are people unspating in the future. You know, before we keep on and we ask you more of the gospel industry, you did the music. We also want to know about it and all that. So international night of worship is a gospel music event, gospel music event that is organized by Mziki Tours. Mziki Tours is an organization from Finland, which I heard and in partnership with GTM Ministries, an organization from the US. So basically the worship event is aimed at bringing worshipers from different countries across the globe. We are happy today that we had seen us from about six, seven countries. That is Sweden, we had some singers from Norway, we had some singers from Germany, we have some students from USA and we had some from France also. So as you saw, I'm sure you guys saw, this was a great experience, it has never happened before. We had a total of 45 singers from all across the globe and then we had international choir directors and music leaders that joined us. So this was awesome and we had hundreds of local singers that joined us. So this is amazing, I'm happy that this has been a success, it's been a long journey, but now we've been able to execute it and this is not the only one. Next week we even have a bigger one, a much much bigger one. After this, these guys are leaving tomorrow, they are flying back to their countries, but even as they do that, we have another set of singers coming and this is even going to be much much bigger. We are hosting a total number of 200 singers that are coming from Europe and Japan and USA. I think we have about 45 singers from Japan, they are landing on Wednesday 5th July. We have 69 singers from Switzerland who are landing on I think Wednesday again in the evening. We have about 25 singers from Spain, we have another 25 singers from France, we have about 15 singers from Brazil, we have some singers also from the USA. So this is going to be even bigger, bigger event. In total we are looking forward to having 200 singers and that's definitely amazing. It hasn't happened before, nobody else has done it before. So nashkumungu bana? Well maybe you shed some light. We are having problems in the gospel industry in Kenya. We've seen musicians jump from gospel to secular music and we also like seeing there's no impact in the society as much as it used to be maybe 3 to 5 years back. Maybe what plans are you having now that and what keeps you going as well because it's not easy to keep it in the gospel industry. Maybe you tell us, are there challenges from your side? What keeps you going and why do you think our own gospel musicians will move from gospel to secular? I think first what washikane wa fanyikazi, unity is a very important virtue, a very important thing when you are working as a team. Unonakama mimi sasa, there are so many people that we've tried to reach out to but back then when we tried to reach out to them the response was they weren't cooperating. So because of that we had to reach out to international friends. That's why we have these international friends coming here. I had to go out there and look for international friends that we can work with because these guys that are here, wale tunawajua, they don't have unity. Our supportiani, they don't help each other. They don't have, they don't mentor upcoming artists or singers. They don't have anything. What washikane wa fanyikazi, kusikuena competition, imambuea competition in terms of material stuff, it doesn't make sense, it doesn't help out. People should focus more on the projects they are doing. People should focus more on working together. People should focus more on the ministry, sharing the word of gold through music. So that to sungembele, wachae imambuea competition, kupigana, pigana, gita na kuonishawatu, nikona gari, nikona nyumba, nikona pesa, it doesn't make sense. People should focus on working and working together. Because once you focus on material things then you miss the point. You forget the mission that you have, you forget your goal, you forget your objective. So because of that, of course the returns will be different and that's why we want to move more on a shift from gospel to those other things. That is because of what their aim is, because they are aiming for wrong stuff. And okay, I have two questions just to know how are you getting support in order maybe to organize such events and for people watching us, probably for people who have been able to miss this international attitude of worship, what can they expect the next one which is very close maybe? So first, the greatest support that I'm receiving is from God. God dame nishkiliasana. It's been a long journey to Mewoknae. We started this of course many years ago. But planning for this event has taken about three years since Covid times. But we're happy that now it's here, it has happened. So the greatest support is from God and then people around, waliwakwa na tu shkilia, I have a great team that I'm working with both in Finland, in Europe and also in Kenya. Amboa metus idea to kashikuka resaks mamisha this event. And then waliwame kosa, waliwakwa resa kujahapa leo, we have a bigger one that is coming next week. So next week, as I said earlier, we are having 205 seniors that are coming and they are all coming from different countries. So the major event is happening on the 9th of July at the Nyayu Gardens Makuru from 4pm. So kama hau kujahapa, Sunday 9th of July from 4pm, tukutani Nyayu Gardens bana. Tuonevili mambo na tengenezo oku. Tu musifu mungu, tu cheze, tu imbe pamoja, tu sifu, tu abudu, kwanjiya zote zile. Namu. Okay, that's nice. And maybe just to know, kulekwa, of course, was it months ago kumekwanezi issues, pastas, maybe kushikuwa na nini akina pasta, Ezekal makendri, what was your thought on that? Ini mambo ya duniya, for me, I focus more on, I will say, what were the different objectives? People in ministry have different objectives. Atabibili na sema that during end times people will come wakiji ficha kwanba wakondani wakupayesu, lakini, they'll be doing, they'll be having other missions. So, for the thing here, pasta makendri, I think, those are just cults, cultic acts. And unfortunately, Kenyans wanna fwata your story. Maybe because of frustrations, vile mambo iku sayi. But you see, that should not be the point of focus. The point of focus should be that our people, that should be helping us to follow the right ways about the artists, about Mungwa Mwapatia, Yokipaji Mwapatia, the platform. How do we find the right things? So because of that, people are looking for those other alternatives on how they could maybe get uplifted in different ways. But I think if our artists, gospel music artists, our other ministers in different forums, different platforms, if they will do what they're supposed to do as they were called to do, I think such things wouldn't be happening. Because right now as it is, there is a gap. So since there is a gap, anybody will try to look for a way to maybe move ahead. So me, I will urge wale artis to enginia, wale kukulenje tufanya ile kitu tulitu kufana. If you're a gospel artist, kukulitua, you're a minister, do it to your level best. So that we don't, we feel these gaps. Kulenje, what do I tell you now? And then people should aspire to grow. People should aspire to work together. People should aspire to work beyond Kenya and beyond Nairobi. Nairobi akuna kitu. Artis tuwa kutuwa juku jichangana banda. Maybe Bani, you inspire, talk to someone, you know. It's a youth, someone who wants to maybe look up to you or maybe wants to reach you kufuka ile pandengine, me probably award or anything that they can do. I only work with people that are, people that know what they want, people that are focused and people that have really what it takes. As you have seen here we've had so many local artists that we have that we have worked with. Now next week we will even have I think about 200 of them that will be coming and those are young talents. Wale yambao, hawa jajulikana, wale yambao kuna mtuna wajua. But how in Guinea you can't work with somebody that somebody that has a different focus from what you're focusing on. My objective is very different from these other people so I can't work with somebody that has a different objective. And then you see let me let me say something kusabume nulza I used to hear speaking to artists. Before I left Kenya I used to live in Nakuru and then I left I moved to Nairobi and then eventually Godakafunguangia and Kamufin. So before I left Nakuru I used to call artists up on Nakuru Komba those are local artists. Mungwa kafunguangia and Kera Nairobi tukasa atami munya kwa local artist. Lakin nisa wakati mungwa kafunguangia with the level of exposure ile milanguama mungwa mefunguwa when you look back on Nakumbe local is not Nakuru ama Nairobi ama Mumbasa ama Kisumu. Anybody that is in Kenya I think that's local. For me. So people should aspire to grow. Wale wachanga wale mbawana kuja to ashikili mkono. If you're an artist and you've been in this music space not industry in this music space for 10 years, 5 years, 20 years and yet there's nothing aku na mitu mbawana ashikili ya and there's mama say me ule jama ameni inspire ameni mentor ameni fanyanini then I don't think you're doing the right thing. People should aspire to grow beyond Kenya. Wato toke Kenya wato ashikai Kenya pwana semati una julkanana Nairobi amuna fanaikitu Nairobi so nona you wendo ulem say apaana there's so many there's so many spaces out there there's so many opportunities there's so many platforms and by doing that you can also do that by creating platforms for the rest wale mbawana waja fika mahali so aspire to ashikili mkono and then aspire to grow beyond the borders. Maybe what is the difference between music in Finland gospel music and then there's also this other question that is one there's this other question like when you're I don't know if I call it a racial kind of question what do you ever receive a backlash when you're in the other side because there's also this when you are different and outside you probably may receive your black and all this that's racism for example get to you when you're in Finland and also what is the difference? Why do you insist on aspiring someone to be probably go out of Kenya to see the difference so what is that kind of difference? Number one I don't mind about somebody I don't mind about somebody looking down on me because of racism as you're saying even though I live there because I'm focusing on important things for me mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono mkono I don't mind about those because those are things that will always be there. And then number two, you asked about why am I emphasizing on people to grow, the people should aspire to grow. You see, Ukihangali amadirani zetu apa? TZ, ama Nigeria, ama South Africa. Wadu wanafanya mziki bani? Wadu wanapiga kazi? Wadu wanatumi amziki kwenesa injili? Not just in their countries, but they've grown. The Bible says that we should aspire to grow, we should grow from glory to glory, from glory to the other. Lakin nisa wu kwiwatu wu kwaapo, wu mefanyakitu na irobinona wu mefika. It doesn't, it's people are moving, people are doing stuff out there. Wadu wanataka kuske injili through music, not just in Kenya, even out there. So that's why it's important. You've seen people like Sinach doing international music mission tours. Muntu anenda anafanya mziki, anafanya ministry, ana mbiwa tukama 30, 40, 50,000. That's not easy. And yet hapa, muntu anadipika kifusabu anafanya ananda kuhu minister in a place that maybe we have. Gunadjua, you know what I mean. So that's why I keep emphasizing on people should aspire to grow because there are so many platforms out there. There are so many platforms. And then when you also walk from one level to the next one, it means that level will be empty. So utachia mungine piyata tokak palema liyako, apande akuji juki dogo. Lakin wu wikatu koapo, wu nazu yawitu mingisana. Yako, barakazako, na piyaza wale yungini yamboga ko chiniyako. Okay, maybe lastly you give us your handals and tell us where we can find you and also this team that was seeing in here, you can also share the handals and maybe give a lot of thumbs as well. So follow me at Asila Bani, Instagram, Facebook, Bani Asila, YouTube, watch out my new jam, Mambo yamibadilika, Bani Asila. And then let's meet next week on Sunday at Nyayo Gardens, Nakuru from 4 p.m., no, from 5 p.m., to 8 p.m., tutakua na wazito palema, Mambo ita hei hei. Adasi juni senmeji, Mambo ita kwa sawa. A'a Mambo yezi chemuka, Mambo ita kwa sawa. Mambo ita kwa sawa. So we meet Apu, leu na shkuru sanatumikwa na nini, Santeni kwa kujah. So we see you guys, I'm sure you're coming. Na Nairobi pia tnenda kuchu kwa wale wa say, I think waziri atakua, mawaziri wa wili wa tatu, they've confirmed to us that they'll be coming because we have a flight that is arriving with about 150 people at once. So that's quite huge, we have people, some waziris for takuja kutsu idea kwa welcome, kwa airport. I hope you guys will be there also. Kama kwa wajidas nyo. A'a pwa sawa. A'a pwa sawa. A'a pwa sawa.