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We are alive awesome Hey everyone, welcome to our first ever episode of prime cast prime cast live to be specific because it is the only live podcast we have here at Nintendo Prime and This podcast deals specifically with news topics We are just going over the past week of Nintendo news Basically picking out some of the biggest news from that week and talking about it having conversations given opinions, etc And then for the last half hour to an hour We will be doing a Q&A session where we will take your guys's question from the chat Please save your questions until then hanging me throughout the whole hour and a half that we're first talking about news I'm not going to get to your questions wait for the Q&A segment Obviously if you super chat or do anything like that you super chatter donate We don't even have a donation link up so I guess super chats only tonight If you do that that'll obviously push your question to the top of the queue But please wait wait for the Q&A time to do all that stuff I will try to shout you out if you do shoot super chat, but we're not this isn't about the super chats tonight This is about the discussion as it's going to be now every single Friday And what I want to do before we get going is introduce our panel Hopefully most of these people will be here every Friday They might miss once in a while it happens and we'll be bringing other other youtubers in as well We had HMK who wants to be part of this but couldn't this week because of a prior commitment Bob from Wolf Den Wants to pop on once in a while So what will we will be getting some other youtubers in as well at one point? 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All right Let's all get right into the news as I said the first 90 minutes of the pack I spent talking just about the news getting the topics out there We'll try to create a regular flow here I you guys just jump in when you feel like you got something to say and if you don't well I guess that's a doubt of the topic I Think obviously the biggest news today at least in the world of Nintendo is that Nintendo Labo has released A lot of people were anticipating this day some gamers weren't necessarily digging it. I think every YouTube channel that Had bought Labo, I guess has or had a press kid of Labo has had videos come out today I've seen giant bomb did like a 10 hour live stream of trying to put together labo, and I think they failed So I guess just to kind of throw it out there like what are your guys's thoughts on Nintendo Labo in general? Like it's out today. Are any of you guys getting it? Have you gotten it? Is there anything you like about it? Do you think it's just a gimmick that's gonna pass in a few months? I Think labo is very cool Not necessarily for me. I have a niece who's really in the playing games And she always wants to look for an excuse to play my switch one-two switch was really big for her I'm not so much. I was gonna do a whole thing about it I was gonna do like a like a BuzzFeed ask like Seven-year-old plays labo, but somebody else argue did that sounds like I can't I don't want to do Um, so I'm kind of holding off on that for a little bit. I think it's a cool idea though That's a anyone else I think we got two different good perspectives here because Some of us on this particular live podcast have children and some of us do not so me personally I don't have kids and I think it's a really cool idea and you know, I could see them Like I could maybe see using like the motorcycle one and like a sweet like super hang-on arcade That'd be sweet, but largely I don't think it's something that I'm particularly interested in but I think it's a much faster way for them to crank Out peripherals than trying to get molded plastic stuff. So that's cool sure It's uh, yeah, obviously I'm a parent Of three children. I'm my kids didn't seem that interested when I showed them the labo trailers And that's I guess to be expected it's a two-year-old a four-year-old and then, you know, the only one who might be interested my daughter who's seven and She seems kind of sort of interested but only in so much that I build everything and she plays with it So, uh, I Am almost more excited for it than she is because Growing up anyways, I was always a build it yourself guy like I like building things I did, you know, all of the you had the soapbox race cars and stuff in Cub scouts. I did model planes Legos were like huge with me um, you know, I used to build also, uh I had the hot wheels tracks and look we have these plastic long tracks that you could just set up and make your own tracks and do crazy things like off the ceiling and Um, it was nuts and I used to just like building all my own stuff Uh and tearing things apart and putting them back together and this is where you're building something from scratch and It's it looks really exciting like the moment they showed the piano because I used to be like a musician Uh, I just I should call myself a musician. I used to be in band back in high school Um, same thing. I can't say same thing. I was in choir too, right? I cross all gambits here. Um I uh I was excited about it just All right, like I don't understand how all works. I get it But uh, just like the idea that I just built this thing out of cardboard cardboard stuck a joy con in and I'm playing music Um, it's just really interesting to me. I'm more interested in that than the robot kid I'm interested in how the robot kid works and my kids are more interested in the robot kid because It's showing people punching things It's a robot, right? But uh, we'll see, uh, I haven't picked it up yet because you know money The the initial kits are quite pricey. Um, they do fall in line would do it yourself kids So it's not like it's out of line for for the The place that it's in you know, it's only $20 more than a traditional video game But I think the the biggest uh factor on that is that you can't get the software digitally and I don't know Software's differentiated at all If you buy one labo kit Then you're set because you can just get the templates that they have and then make your own kit through 3D printing or just getting cardboard and cutting it out or some of that stuff Um, it's a separate games. Yeah. Yeah, so like I think that's the biggest factor Like if if you want the whole experience are you buying the same game twice? Or is the the uh cardboard Like that it comes with does that decide what software comes with it? So there is there's two sets of software right now. There's toy con One and toy con two Toy con one is what comes with the variety pack toy con two comes with the robot pack Uh, they both supposedly have garage, uh, which is where you can build your own stuff But you build your own stuff based on what's included in that toy compact. So like the variety back So the software itself is limited to what toy con come with Yes, okay. So yeah that that that makes more sense. Yeah Uh, no, you can buy extra extra cardboard, of course, nintendo sells them online on the nintendo online store They'll probably have some of the packs appear in retail as well They seem I I guess okay priced But I think what's really cool about this and this is why I don't understand what they didn't do it digitally Is not only can you buy all the cardboard individually anyways Uh, they actually released pdfs today of all of the designs So you could actually just take cardboard you already have And build it out of that or you can go the extra mile and try to do it out of plastic You could through you could through Fun fact when they actually start a Edward Norton, thank you so much for your four dollar and 20 cent for four 20 day Thank you so much Edward Norton can always rely on him to get those references and on his donations Uh, so yeah, it's really interesting to me Uh, that now man at four 20 just really threw me off. Thanks Edward somebody hasn't donate 69 dollars and 69 cents I think you're right though about the building seems like the most fun part to me I'm most worried about the software getting old as an an older person without kids, you know I'm not going to be playing with anybody else. I'll be alone trying to play with these things and it'll be fun building on but then For me and I feel like this is kind of like a underserved part of this game that the the garage aspect Is really cool, especially for for kids like that that that's really good like fundamental for coding Like understanding like okay. Yes x does y you know like that that whole thing It's like if this then blank like that that's a really good starting point for that and it makes it approachable Yeah, there's actually um Some of the there's like schools right now in the uk that have been contacting nintendo of europe To see about setting up a program inside the schools for nintendo lab Um, and that's actually something that I thought this This is really what's going to take a next level forget I'm selling in wall martin's stuff like if they're going to do that But what's going to make this a mass project is I think it can hit huge in the education sector like this should be in elementary schools That reminds me a few years ago Uh, actually, I don't even think it was a few years ago. It might even have been just a year ago I remember doing a video on my channel where we were doing something similar to this podcast where we were talking about the news and One of the news stories for that video was talking about how this college Was using game design, uh specifically I don't I don't think you could call it game design, but Uh, they were using it was an architecture class Using minecraft as a way to design buildings and stuff like that Sure So it's like if a college is using minecraft to Design 3d models for buildings. I could definitely see like a middle school or a high school or something using the tinda Like crafts and stuff Sure That's how you know something takes off because like connect when connect was doing really well You see it in like surgeries and stuff like that you see people using we remotes and like that's how you know It's like this mass market product when you see schools trying to commission the company be like, hey, uh, we want to There was uh Do you guys remember like when the ds was being used like in museums like you could turn it sideways like a book and navigate yeah Man, you knew that system blew up on that one. That's what's happening. Holy crud at the Louvre too, right? Oh, yes Yes, at the Louvre like not some small museum at all um man uh so Uh, like jesse, what are your general thoughts on this because like I know you're a parent as well um, like does this hit with you at all? yeah, um I've Been sent nintendo labo stuff. I are not nintendo labo. I've been sent nintendo Stuff nintendo games for review, but I wasn't sent nintendo labo for review But with that said it is still something that I would go out And purchase myself just because it is one of the few video games with my daughter almost being three years old It's one of the few things that I think she would be able to Play around with and actually understand especially with like some of the music stuff that they have where you can build the cardboard into a piano and Press certain keys to make notes and stuff. Actually like right before this podcast started. I seen the I almost said nintendo prime. It's you I almost seen spawnwave I I seen him post some Um, uh, he shared a daughter playing or his son playing With nintendo labo and whenever he would take the keyboard away He would start crying, but then he would put it back And then he would start laughing and smiling and playing with it again So that like that short 30 second video shows you How big of an impact this already has like on day one with little kids so I already think it's a success and there's been interviews that I've seen where Fuji beyashi is that Sure One of the people in charge at nintendo is talking about Instead of releasing New iterations of the nintendo switch like they did with like the 3ds excel or the new 3ds They were just going to release Different things that the switch could connect to in terms of hardware as opposed to releasing a brand new switch to make a More profit more money And the first part of that that I was thinking about is with this nintendo labo because that is attachments and accessories that you can Attach as hardware to the nintendo switch and the profit margins For the nintendo switch with nintendo labo have to be off the charge Especially especially since this is essentially cardboard That they're releasing Which could be like pennies on the dollar And then it's like what kind of stuff could they make for the nintendo switch and a couple of months from now Or like what could they announce at e3 for nintendo labo? that could Even profit more on this idea like we've seen In past like a lot of the zelda games have had Fishing mini games So if they like a fishing kit for nintendo labo That would connect to breath of the wild or whatever the next zelda game is and then you're essentially building A cardboard fishing pole out of cardboard to play with zelda or connect to animal crossing or pokemon Or whatever other zelda game that incorporates a fishing mechanic Then they could make money off of games that they already have released all they have to do is release cardboard for like $50 so Uh, is it a success from what i've seen from everybody? It already is a success Uh, if it will continue being a success or not is Uh the question I would say the biggest thing with this is that uh, it'll be a quiet success because people like us Aren't really going to dwell on this for that long, you know, like it's not going to be that many videos of like Oh, i'm still playing labo, you know, but like 100 hours i was playing with labo in my science class It was great, you know, it's going to it's going to sell a lot But like we're not going to hear about it until nintendo comes out and like with a uh financial report But yeah, we sold 30 million units of labo No big deal Yeah, like is the is this like their next week's sports Yeah, I think I don't I don't know if it's we sport because we sports obviously had the handy Well, it was bundled in too. Yeah But I mean it was a huge selling point for the system I think this is we sports in that traditional media like the fox news is in the abc's unless they're going to talk about labo Yeah, cnn actually had a unboxing video and uh, like first impression video up today and a review video, I think and i'm like cnn All right, I get it like It shouldn't just be gaming talking about this because it's not like a game in a traditional sense, right? It's a toy It's a toy exactly they call toy con for a reason right like even bill nye was out there with uh this going on. It's so weird Yeah, when I saw bill nye the science guy on the uh official nintendo channel advertising and I was like Huh now they do gotta they gotta have decent science classes. It's going to be It's going to be the favorite time of the day now I did say it's science. So staying science. I don't want to go to recess. I'm playing labo. Leave me alone I gotta say if they have labo in my school growing up, I do my favorite class. That's for sure Yeah, this is all the way Oh, yeah, egg floss, baby. I'll be the one choose of course. I would choose the most difficult thing in the whole book And we'd never complete it before the class is over That was broken from the 100 kids before you who are playing with it It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. We have well, that's why they gotta get those contracts with nintendo They gotta get discounts. They just got stacks of cardboard waiting to be rebuilding it Um, you print the completed model already. You know, we gotta build it right right um So I guess we'll kind of segue to our our next story. Um, because this is one that really upset me this week Uh dark souls remastered the switch version has been delayed to summer Uh sometime in the summer is all they've said and that it'll still have an early network test as well But now that's also been delayed because they're going to wait until they are closer to release Which they don't know when release is yet Some have speculated that maybe it got delayed for the online service that releases in september But then september is technically after summer uh, so What are you guys's thoughts on this because after all dark souls remaster was first unveiled in a nintendo direct Uh I don't know. I saw it running. Uh, I went to xc. So it looks good So I was like I didn't expect that. Um If there's some problem that we don't know about because of course they bring vertical slices to these these conferences With these offenses and stuff like that. So it could be broken. Um, if it works well because of that delay more power to It's going to hurt the game ultimately Yeah Yeah, some people try telling me that it's a it's a good idea to delay it so people can double dip buy it on play station 4 and then they'll come and buy it on switch. I'm like, no, they're not No And and that's part of the my question is is it delayed because It started development after the other versions or because the other versions are kind of around the same fidelity It's just taking too long to kind of give us the slightly paired down version on the switch Well, and the thing is because they delayed it after initially announcing it with nintendo Because it felt like a big deal because nintendo got first dib marketing for this game That's like a huge deal. I understand it's an old, you know It's a remaster of an old game or whatever. It's not as big of a deal as with the say, um, The new assassin's creed or whatever being unveiled on switch first like that's a way bigger deal, but It's still one of those they purposely closely tied it now. It's being delayed several months And that just kills hype. Obviously the amiibo is delayed as well and it makes you wonder if uh Like if the how are they so confident two months ago? It was going to be ready for may 25th and now they're like a month out and like, you know what? We we just had it at packs east everyone says it's awesome a lot of people say it's the most true to the original version And we're just going to not have it ready and I understand like obviously something gets a scum like a win A major something Maybe the performance at the end of the game is really terrible Then again the original performance of dark souls is really terrible So I don't really think that's a good excuse. You could just patch the performance For for a fact that they mean like late summer because they just had summer may 25th is pretty close to summer We could be looking at june july, you know, which is I mean Well, I figured if they if they if they meant june, it'd be like we have to delay a month or two Like when they say just uh, man, what is the exact quotes on it? I'm trying to remember now Oh When's the autumn equinox is it like august 21st? I'm gonna put it out august It's summer. We made summer I mean the question I mean my problem, I guess with the announcement isn't just that it's closely tied to switch It's that they did it without telling us why they're delaying it. They just said they're just like, hey, we're delaying It's a summer. We'll see you then it's like Why maybe we'll see why during the test Maybe e3 will make things clear as well and maybe it is the network thing Don't know we're delaying it because that would that would suck if it's because of the network I feel like yeah, we try to network test with just the local devs and we couldn't connect because the network doesn't exist Only nintendo has access. Oh man that would be Ah I don't know. I I'm I'm very upset about like I'm to the point that I've never played a dark souls game And this was doing my first one and now I'm like, I'm not even gonna buy it now Really? Wow, you're upset. I am upset Dude, this was my big game next month. Now it's gone Wow Like it comes out during the summer like to give you guys an idea like the the director was announced And I wasn't even the most excited for that announcement I was excited for mario tennis aces because they have a single player mode and I'm pumped about that Well, that's gonna be coming out Did you see the slate of games coming out just in the first half of july? And this is without even all the stuff It's like all these other games are coming out that I'm gonna want to play instead of dark souls Whereas dark souls hitting that may give me a solid two or three weeks before e3 lands And I could just play dark souls until then that would have been perfect now It's like well if I want to play it I could buy it in another platform, but I really wanted to switch especially since like when I'm on those, you know I eat going to e3 this year. So three and a half hour four hour flight It'd be awesome to like just deep dive into more dark souls Uh, maybe set my expectations for third party games at e3 or something, but Now it's like well, I guess I'll just play what I already have Which is mario and zelda and marion rabbits and all these games I bought last year Right, that's fair Um, which isn't a isn't a problem. I have a huge backlog of games and I'm not I know I got no complaints like I like I just got blossom tails And I'm like, why am I going to be blossom tails because I haven't even finished golf story yet from last year So it's like So I've got no complaints about the amount of games I've played but dark souls was going to be like my big AAA like my next triple a diving game And one that I expected to be very entertaining on live streams because I've never played before So I'm just going to die a lot and I know I'm going to die a lot And people get to see my frustration live um, so as a first-time player, but Oh, we'll see Maybe you know what? Maybe we'll end up hitting our review stretch goal on patreon And by then like the patrons will be like you have to review the games and then I have to buy it There you go Sorry, I'm I'm so disappointed right now I think uh, jesse disconnected too. Yeah, I was gonna say jesse. What do you have to say? But I looked over it isn't icon was gone so dang hotel wi-fi I'll make I'll make sure to Give them. Oh, you should still have the invite link the link didn't change. It's a permalink. So Whenever his wi-fi turns back on at the internet Is a conspiracy. Yeah, it's fine dark souls Um All right, uh, so I guess what I want to say on that especially says one fourth of us vanished um So ubi soft They announced their press conference a date. We have dates for basically all the major press conferences now Theirs is on june 11th at 1 p.m. Pacific. They're they're usual time now. Not a big surprise But we know that uh last year ubi soft had a big reveal for nintendo with marty plus rabbits kingdom metal even though it was completely leaked beforehand But we didn't know the we didn't know the gameplay the gameplay I think sold it for a lot of people because they're like marty and rabbits Uh, yeah, I can then they watch a game and they're like Yeah, the leak was almost a good thing. Yeah, you got people to like expect the worst and then they saw the like, okay Yeah, maybe we'll see if I can have a conspiracy theory about that Like the the the thing that really shifted people over to the like where team ravids is uh What's his name dive dive a day? The creative director him crying that sold that game. There's like, oh, yes. This is not just this like, uh Sell out moment of like we get to use mario. Let's throw rabbits and mario together because They'll probably sell, you know, that's my thing. It was like no, this is a passion product project This man's over here crying. Yeah, it's like a dream like he's always wanted to do this and see the rabbits fight alongside mario and it was such a cool thing too because They didn't have any permission from nintendo when they just went up to nintendo. Hey, so we kind of made this thing What do you think and nintendo's like, yes Yes, do that We still we we still have to approve anything. Did we do that? Did you did you still that model from us? So that's why I think it's it's interesting highly highlighting the ubi soft one Especially since it's a lose the news landed this week. Is there like any big ubi soft game? Whether it's coming to switch or not that you guys might be anticipating being announced or getting a first look at possibly um any three this year I want whatever they whatever they do. I don't I don't care If it's 45 frames per second or whatever like it just stands for 2019 As many stuff that they want to put on switch put it on switch. I want to see uh There are nexus access creed on switch. I want to see uh, what else watch dogs. I want to see that on switch I want to see literally everything because like a portable version of a game is always a good thing for sure It didn't ubi soft announce, uh, weren't they the ones that announced steep? Yeah Steep was a bad announcement to make anyway. I don't think I think that was less of Like oh man, this is impossible to get it to run and more of like add It's isn't a huge priority because it isn't even really doing well on the platforms that it's already on This is true. This is true. I just have one of my viewers that always like brings it up every stream So gotta rip him out there. Come on ubi soft. Give us that steep Yeah, I think I have one q&a question about it one time and i'm like, I don't know what to tell you Yeah, it's a game that is technically still coming has never been canceled, but no one cares Who who looks at steep and it's like, yeah, that's probably technically that's more technically advanced in doom No, it's not like a question Like it's just not a priority. It's like doom was a dud doom and wolfenstein have kind of like set the bar where it's like Okay, yeah Yeah, like it's hard and hard to use that excuse Yeah, uh, the only excuse I can give is for like maybe I call a duty that Does it want to sacrifice the graphic fidelity to a certain point that they have to do 30 fps? Um, like because they value 60 I could see maybe that being another thing, but then I'm like what they put What they put what they put it on we so right You know what dev I can see flat out like no, we're not even looking at switch a cd project right and that's about it Those that was on board like they're like right under that bar of like cd project red because cd project red They pride themselves on that, you know, like that's their whole thing of like where this boutique studio Like we make these super high production value games for not that much money and we put our games on the most powerful Uh platforms that we possibly can I can see them be like nah, you're not you're not getting the witcher three or our uh cyberpunk 20 whatever I think an interesting example is a rocket league because originally They had stated that they absolutely had to have rocket league 60 frames per second No sacrifices or it'll be unfair for you online Well, we know along the way they decided, you know what we'll give you an option either You can have the performance mode or the graphics mode and you either get 60 frames or you get 30 It's up to you So I could see, you know, some developers eventually bending a little bit and saying, okay Here's what we want 60 frames, but maybe you want the graphics. Okay. Here's 30 frames I can see why like as a developer looking at like with you, right? That's just the the selling point of that game to a consumer is oh, it's the nintendo version Whereas here it's like it's the portable version. So you're willing to uh concessions For planning on because like uh game boy advanced game boy advanced had like every game too It wasn't the same lego star wars, you know, but it was still lego star wars. So like It's gonna like it's gonna be more of the actual version. It's just gonna be It's gonna look like whatever the game is wolfenstein to right if that was on xbox 360, you know And that's not bad. That's not bad to play in the palm of your hand. Like that's crazy actually enjoy that um man Yeah, you know As far as like ubi soft stuff goes We've seen i mean half the silly half of the franchise, but uh rayman I'd actually like to see a new rayman because they've been just porting around the last two games The last several years, but are they making a new rayman? That'd be cool. Maybe even the 3d one No, that would be pretty cool. Give me a rabid's rayman fighting game Yeah, perfect. Let me run a rabid with rayman Glowlox Yes, oh jeez. That's awesome um It's funny because like uh, eric from the other podcast was here to be like, oh mario plus rabbits too. That's what I want Oh, I don't know. Yeah, it means too soon. But yeah, totally. It is too soon. Hold this to sir I don't like it. I don't like it It's not for everyone and there's no game for it. That's literally for everyone, but I really like the game I acknowledge that the gameplay looks great. I can't get past the theming. I can't I can't do it I can't do it. Maybe you should try it though because I hate the rabbits too. I totally totally hate those rabbits They suck But the game was legitimately awesome. It really was I just don't want to hate myself every time I see a cutscene Like the gameplay, like I said, I look at that and I'm like, yeah, somebody that's into that sort of thing like that looks Awesome, you know, but like literally every time I see a cutscene I'm going to want to throw my switch outside of And then drive over it with 16 will or way It was a little weird to have like peeing jokes and stuff inside a mario game Don't you stab Luigi was also like I can't I can't do this. Oh man, I can't do this Um May like for me Um, I'm actually really curious about the next Assassin's Creed game. Yeah, because they did origins last year They took like a year off. Um Origins was fantastic from everything. I haven't played it But the reason I haven't played it is because of my job here at Nintendo prime Not because I don't want to play it like it looks I've seen so many streams and so many videos Read a bunch of reviews like it looks awesome I mean egypt and it seems like they did everything right like they used to do back with two and a couple of the the follow-up follow-up the twos before it kind of started going downhill after three and It just was I mean The modern day story is still crap. They destroyed like it was good for a little while Then after two they just I don't know what they like flushed it down the toilet and just screwed it all up Is Desmond still dead? Well, I guess I think I don't know. He's been dead for I don't even know how many games I Well, and I think we're really gonna see it come to the platform Maybe not that game specifically but because we have seen Assassin's Creed come to Nintendo before Yeah, with Wii U. Was it a black flag? Three in black flag. Yep. Yeah precedent the two years in a row and The reason or at least the theoretical reason origins was never even in consideration Was because the engine it was made on it was already a very difficult to work with older Ubisoft engine That would have took too much customizing to get to run on switch Right whereas that game a long time ago. Yeah, whereas Whereas the newer Assassin's Creed games are supposed to be running on snow drop Which is what the division and also what mario plus rabbits kingdom metal ran on And the mario plus rabbits kingdom metal people said we were actually surprised how Like easy To get that engine to run on switch was like they hardly had to touch anything that just worked Now the some of that, you know art style or whatever But we're talking about the engine art styles are relevant the engine itself just worked and they didn't have to do much So that means to me that if they wanted to bring other Assassin's Creed games over if they're using snow drop Then I think it's a definite possibility. So I want I want to know I think they confirmed that all their future games Yeah, maybe I'm conflating that with like EA or something. No, no, yeah, uh, they're trying to do the EA thing where everything runs on I think frostbite over there So like frostbite sucks in terms of like adaptability like Yeah, it's Sure, just kept it to like sports or something like that and just Anyways, they're trying to spread that engine too thin for too many different games But we'll be saw us now. We're gonna try the same thing with snow drop and we'll see how that goes Um, maybe it'll end up working. All right, but I think that's a smart approach It's just mostly a smart approach if your engine is Adaptable like the what is it? Um, it takes six engine ID ID tech sexy up Yeah, like that is that's a crazy adaptable engine like you can get that to run on anything Sure, I think that that's like Um, a bigger sign of modernity for an engine than like we can push the best graphics because like Most people that are playing games aren't playing games Like I mean outside of our sphere like most people that are playing games are playing in on their smartphones So like if you can get your game to run on that You're golden, you know, like it might be that's obviously not going to be the same exact experience on a smartphone But having an option is not not something that will hurt you No, not at all. I mean I I'm I'm just really curious what Ubisoft's plans are because They were they were big in on Wii U for a few years before they dropped out Um, but understandable everyone should have dropped out off of Wii U after Let's see Uh, they were they were doing stuff on Wii Obviously it helped that just dance just exploded on Wii and it's still going to this day And they still make Wii versions of the current just dance games Yes, because they still sell just enough of them to keep making them for Wii It's like two gents going crazy. Um, that that would be that's like a kin to them So Sony still making PlayStation 2 games It's crazy that it's still selling well enough and Ubisoft has obviously seen some success on uh switch so far this gen obviously Mario in the name of mario plus rabbits is going to help sell it But it also helps with the reputation of that game ended up being pretty solid as well. Um, so I'm curious to see if they start doing the Bethesda thing where it looks at least on the surface like Bethesda's all in Yeah, we don't know because so far every game they have announced has become older ports doom, uh, you know Skyrim Wolfenstein 2 is coming like a year after but that's understandable doom. I doom and Wolfenstein I think that though that's a sign that they're all in because yeah, they're older on the generation But it's not last generation's game, you know, like like skyrim is more of that thing of like, yeah, that's last generation Skyrims and everything. Yeah, exactly. But I mean like it's not as impressive Whereas like before doom people are like, oh, we're not going to get any current gen games on this thing It's going to be 360 and ps3 ports and that's it. But doom is a next generation game, you know, like so yeah, it's uh I'll I'm gonna I will I will fully believe Bethesda's all in if every game they announced at E3 this year is also coming to switch Um, like I'm and my biggest thing and maybe this is this isn't even the fault of dark souls Like we're master when it got delayed But I am tired of not getting games day in day Yeah, like it feels like that means they're De-prioritizing the switch And that's understandable year one. I get that year one. I think it's understandable year two two Games take two to three years ish, you know, so like and also, um, if you guys remember about Nintendo delaying the production of their 64 gigabyte carts that's Where it's like, yeah, they could do a whole thing where they all float part of the game to like on board storage or whatever But that hurts the game like in my mind that makes me not want to get it You know, like do I want to dedicate that much of my sd card or whatever to Like installing a part of this game like I don't have multiplayer for doom installed on there just cuz like just because like Take what's on the cart. So like 32 gigabytes that we couldn't fit on the current game card. Here you go They could yeah doom could have actually fit on the 32 gig card, but they The price of the carts. Yeah, sure They don't want to eat the cost on the carts to keep the game price down That's on nintendo Nintendo has to eat some of the profits on those I think that'll change as time goes on too Like even then not went into I mean, obviously like the price is going to go down as time goes on But I think developers are gaining more confidence in switch where they're willing to eat that cost And I think it's going to be something like You know ea or or some company coming to tell me look, we'll bring you Like current gen versions of our best But you need to eat some you got to eat some costs on those carts because we're not paying We're not going to pay, you know, 8x more than we pay for the blue radius. It's just not going to happen Um, so we'll we'll see if that changes at all um so This next topic is uh It's kind of a two-parter kind of hit today because platinum was all up at this event talking about some stuff and uh The big thing that platinum talked about was two games in particular that that matters for us nintendo fans right now and that's bayonetta 3 And the wonderful 101. Thank you ever norton for your $2 super chat Love and respect man. Um So the first thing we hit on and been here is what they said about wonderful 101 because that's that's just a port um and uh Kamiya had this to say about he said we're going to knock the audience participation up a bit They're still trying to negotiate with nintendo whether a possible wonderful 101 switch release could happen It always helps on the people in the audience of reboot clap and that the reboot was the place where they were talking to people um If they'd actually buy a switch version of one for one of ones anyone that would Buy that please clap and I haven't seen any news on like if people just started clapping like crazy when he said this To prove the demand for the game, but that's not good. What's gonna make it happen? He said they're already like talking to nintendo about trying to get this game over And the thing is is wonderful 101 tank down with you, but it's we you right and I think part of the problem was uh because the touchscreen was bad on we you Apparently sometimes when you're trying to draw things it wasn't recognizing it correctly And it was making it really hard to quickly do something in the game Sure, uh kuba trouba poopa shout out for your one dollar super chat. Thank you so much. Um Yeah, it's it's very interesting. I like I like the wonderful 101 like straight up. I played and beat the game um, it's one of the most underrated exclusive games on we you um, and I don't It's a hard to explain game and advertising. It's like oh it looks like a hundred Pikmin running around Yeah, like it's Like to me beautiful joe pikmin. Yeah. Yeah beautiful joe like and like to me that sounds amazing But like a lot of people looking at it that a brand new ip don't know what this is. They're gonna be like What is that? Right, like why don't they just become a fist? Why did they do like this doesn't this doesn't even look like a game? People are crazy by beautiful joe pikmin. I mean Well, and it looks like some sort of insane anime, right? Oh, yeah concepts of little things got me. Yeah Yeah, exactly It just looks so good um and Obviously the sales of it weren't very good because they have no plans to make a sequel Um, because the sales are worse than the Nintendo console. Yeah, but but then again, we're vanquish and then we can talk. Okay Yes, that would be amazing. Um So My thing is is they're already talking to Nintendo because they want to bring it over they think maybe A new system will give it a second shelf life um I'm I'm just wondering like do you guys think it's going to happen? Because there's a lot of logistics here because Nintendo actually owns rights to this game Um, so they have to okay it and it's a game that didn't sell well So Nintendo might be like it's gonna cost more to bring it over Then what it might sell Because it's a question of did it not sell because it's we you or did not sell because the game isn't appealing On the surface. Yeah, it's one of those games. You got to play it. Then you realize how good it is. Yeah I I think it could sell if they market it right. I don't know if they care enough to market it right Yeah Well, I think if they do bring it over this is this is maybe the one Wii U game That they could maybe port and do it as a digital release And kind of treat it more like an indie game give it that indie game treatment Or it's not an indie game Like it's a port but you kind of advertise it in the indie game space because People who are into indie games are more willing to take risks on games that just look weird Um, and that might be a good way to target it too I don't know how they can do that because you can't put that in with the nindies because it's technically not an indie game It's a nintendo game, uh, but Uh, just like just uh something like that. I think might be a smart way like Maybe do it because uh, isn't snipper clips Don't they classify that as a nindie? Sure, they do Yeah, no, it's not just that it's like a nintendo game or a nintendo nintendo It's made by a AAA studio. Yeah You know It's not it's not some some company that nintendo basically just oh you have this cool idea Here's a little bit of money to give us that little but that even that classification is weird because isn't rocket league classified as an indie An indie Uh, yeah, yeah, raw rocket league is pretty big now. Well now now it is. Yes um But I mean that that's kind of what happens. So like when you're in like as an example, uh, the the company behind minecraft Like that was an independent studio. Yeah, and then now it's even but but now it's owned by microsoft So like even then like how do you how do you do that? You know like yeah, I can see if the like if They called games Nindies right then that's one thing but I think the nindie is more so referring to the studio Sure So it's like it's it's a it's a weird thing. It's like it is. It is very weird. I mean Obviously, you know India on its own just means independent, right? Like it's an independent studio. That's not tied to a platform Right, um, which in and of itself is also weird. Yeah, it is right every studio is every studio Yeah, that's not first or second party Yeah, what would be an independent suit like ea and ubisoft would be independent studio right or but like I think ubisoft even calls themselves independent like when they talk about themselves and like press releases and stuff like that Or when they're talking about uh, uh, what was the company that was trying to buy them? What's the company? Oh, yeah, vivendi. We're vivendi. They're like, yeah, we're trying to stay at independent studio We've been that way since 19 1492 yeah The dark ages Oh, I think I think what ends up happening is I think at least this is how I classify it Uh, indy studio is not just independent like when you use the indy classification because I don't think well like ubisoft calls themselves independent I don't think you'd ever see them say we are indy. Yeah, they're gonna say we're independent Um, so I I think the difference to indy from like say a big triple a publisher is gonna be basically be How much money did you spend to make the game? Right because that's what triple a technically Ment or a used to mean back in the day was it's a game you spend a crap load of money to make It's like if we're talking about the studio, right? Um, because even sometimes ubisoft games like uh, uh Child of light. Yeah child of light. Yep by that as an indie game. Yeah, that was like it's like If it's by money Like nintendo has indie games, you know like and a lot of cases like, um Even their bigger games can be classified as Because nintendo doesn't spend money Is not like breath and while it's like double a but by As we think of nintendo In the range of their games It's a triple a get because like they said they only needed two million Units sold to that game to turn a profit Well to be to be fair when I hear companies say like, uh, what was the what was the famous wasn't a dead space or something Need to move like like, uh, six million units or whatever You know for them for them to claim that it was Uh profitable or whatever well when people look at the balance sheets It was profitable at two and a half million It was that it was that they wanted to hit six to hit a certain profit number To make justify the investment whereas nintendo Usually when big corporations and this this transfers over to movies, uh more than anything They want to double what they spent. Yeah. Yeah, they don't they're not happy breaking even or making some They want all the profits, right? So it's like and that even more so says like how little breath of the wild cost to make And when you look at breath of the wild, you don't think of that as an indie game. You know, it's a it's a weird It's also how little nintendo in general, uh, cares about the profit margins on games Because if they're looking at just pure profit margins, they would be spitting out we sports games all the time They'd be spitting out 2d mario's non-stop Uh, you wouldn't get like an odyssey or a breath of the wild or Like metro games, they don't sell a whole lot of copies, but they still are profitable. So they keep making them, right? I think I think that plays to like how studie. I mean studie sony Approaches there. They're Where they're uh prestige pieces there. Hey, this is this big game that you need to buy this console for They make their money on the car system sellers. Yeah, exactly. So it's like Got a war right now Exactly. Yes. So it's like they're like horizon zero though Like if that was made by dubisoft or activision or whatever, they wouldn't be happy with that game that game sold under 5 million units on an 80 million install base But because it's like this huge game that's like it's beautiful. It's like this technical marvel and stuff like that It's worth it for sony. Same thing for ending with kojima and stuff like that. Oh, yeah um, I mean, that's the it's such a A weird moniker. It's it's one reason why i'm glad nintendo right now on the switch e-shop doesn't try to differentiate between Indeed nintendo and triple a just like no you're just games. We make games Uh, that's just the way it's going to be. Uh, Edward norton. I think you just did a one dollar super chat a little bit Go thank you so much, man. In fact for all you guys out there. I'll do a little shot on your guys behalf I heard somebody once uh mentioned like You know triple a kind of stuff. Well because we have a range of indie games You know, maybe we start rating the indies on an i scale, you know, here's a triple i indie studio Here's a double i indie studio. You know what I mean? Yeah double i They used to be so cut and dry back in the day too like you would have braids super meat boy They basically everything But before indie games like first became indie games like way back when you basically had Your shovelware your beads here and then your double a and triple a Double a was just about beats here because beats here is basically what indie games were And then you had beats here. So you have like you would have like a et crappy game That's like beats here But then you would have earth room gym would be double a and then like final fantasy would be triple a Um, and it was still easy to kind of tell in there even though like on snaz and back then like, yeah The game that looks similar in quality But you could tell as you dive in what one of the games that had the most time and money put into them um But then like as we progressed into the 3d space it just became Well beats here went away because if your first game attempt in there failed your company went under um And then like double a solely went away because it was too expensive to keep up with what triple a games you're trying to do You know the golden eyes the banjos the final fantasies You know the crash bandicoots at the time like all these games going with 3d like people couldn't keep up with them And they weren't making any money like people think uh studios going under today with the ballooning triple a you know Industry whatever is so terrible. Like this was happening in the 90s We lost a lot of companies in the 90s that people just don't even remember because those they remember the nintendo They remember the sagas they don't remember the other games that were on the platforms that weren't made by these companies They're still around today right A lot of it is money management too Because if wolfenstein, I mean not wolfenstein uh the witcher if the witcher 3 can cost 80 million dollars Oh, man the witcher 3 And that can if they can make that game for 80 million dollars There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to make a double a game for 10 You know like and i've argued for a long time that the way nintendo does it Is a way that some western companies start looking at where They hire on employees they intend to keep so they like their game budgets aren't like traditional game budgets where it's like Oh, we have you know There's a marketing budget, but like the actual game like the zelda team's always working on a zelda game So they're all salaried so it's not like they look at it as we invested a You know 50 million dollars in the breadth of the wild they look at it as no We just put our zelda team on it and then we brought it and they repurpose a lot is like the physics That's an investment that physics. Yeah, they have to use that again If they don't use that again, that's a day of missing the boat But even if they'd use it in a different game, it's not zelda like you gotta reuse that somewhere. Oh, yeah Put it in mario put it in mario Pokemon put the chemical i mean put the chemistry engine in pokemon if you don't do that you're stupid You know Put it in pokemon. So when I get thunderbolt that I ragdoll physical all over the screen I don't put it in pokemon. So when I have a double battle, I use water and then I use thunderbolt and it makes my water gun stronger That that was a really cool part of breath a while There's so a breath of water is such a good just a good physics engine behind that man So just talk about how good breath of water is for a minute. Oh, okay Actually, we can do that because we'll get to the we'll skip for a second because we didn't we didn't get on band Out of three yet. So we'll come back to that because our next topic actually is breath of the wild. Yeah Um It's weird, right? Like we're actually talking about breath of the wild, you know at this point We're not on an anniversary. Nothing major happened. However, there was like an art book leak Um, because there's a new art book that released in japan. It will be coming to the us soon I forget. Well, what was the name of the art book again? I'm trying to look at it Masterworks breath of the wild masterworks. Yeah, so it hasn't released here in the west yet But gaming reinvented has a whole bunch of here. I'm gonna put a link in the chat for So they could kind of follow along if they would like to me, uh, where is my chat? I just covered it up Where did I put the chat? Oh, it's over here. It's on my other screen Um, so here's the link to what we're talking about with that for people who want to follow on um So So like there's all this art and that they released like all these ideas that looked like they were either um Like og concept art or just ideas that got kind of cut from the game Um, you know different guardian types. They they attempt it out. Um Different types of mechanical monsters, you know, they have like a spider here with a bunch of eyeballs of the chain going around Um, crap Stuff looks like it like belongs in like skyrim or some creepy dark dark game. Yeah The the bottom stuff like with the uh, I don't know if that's transparent or if it's a white background I feel like that's key art like that's key art of like this is what we wanted the game to look like turned out not looking like that um Yeah, the picture above that with like the guardian golem looking thing I could see that being something that um, they cut where I was like, hey, we want to put this in the game, but Yeah, yeah, like the one with like the long legs and I was like like that's obviously like that was an initial like hey, we're just I We're tossing ideas Yeah, but then like you go to the divine beast section And uh, you can you can see where some of the divine beasts like original inspiration Like certain ones you can see like all of those kind of made it in the game. Just you know just in a different form But then there's ones that are like what like the alien spaceship. We knew they they teased They teased that they tested that at one point uh, and then there's like a man array and A long neck dinosaur with a crane. Yeah, there's like a big whale Big whale too. Yeah, like these are awesome, man. So cool. UFO looks like a jellyfish And here's the thing like uh, it looks like the alien one and the long neck one were put in the game at some point those look like in-game screenshots A little bit. Well, you're not the alien one that might just be screenshot with it with it imposed in but definitely that one's got lightning all around it Well, I mean obviously that became uh The camel what's that one? It coulda. Yeah, because it were bosa. Yeah Out there, but I mean it's so different from the camel. Yeah. Yes, it is and I think Me personally it looks cooler. It also looks a little more steampunkish I think a lot of this art looks even more steampunk than what we actually ended up getting Oh, sure. It definitely looks like the art designers wanted to go that way a lot. Yeah So, um, it's really cool Then you look at like you scroll down you see uh what higher castle tongue looked like before I get wrecked Just really cool. Look at it because you don't you only get a brief princess Yeah, it looks like twilight princess a little bit. You only get a brief look at the town before it gets destroyed in the cut scene um I saw a lot of people um when this initially like came out late They were like, oh, yeah now now we need a Majora's match of breath of the wild Mm-hmm Totally Back and forth between destroyed world and not destroyed world. That'd be so cool Oh man, can you imagine? Um Like I always felt that breath of the wild is perfectly set up for like a prequel Yes And and that's easily what they could they could do all the stuff they could reuse just like the different Majora's match to do a kind of prequel Like I don't know. I mean, I know that the dlc dives it bit into the champion side of things But like there's so much we still don't know about that past. I mean This was the game that advertised the sheikah heavily and I still don't feel like I know anything more about the sheikah before the game Is I do when I'm done No, not really So like why is this crazy sheikah tech all this stuff happening? Let's go back and I want to see when they thought the stuff was a good idea when they started doing it When was the stuff made and yeah, I thought I thought a big thing about this game Was like uh before it came out like I I did um On my mc or my old mcn I did a video about what I thought breath of the wild was going to be before his breath of the wild was just zelda We you Um, and I thought a big thing about what they were because we knew the game was going to be open world and stuff like that And we know and the tunnel usually when they make big sweeping changes like that that becomes a mechanic So I thought that the game like it was going to be like, um pinned up on Mapping hyrule because skyward sword was like the like predecessor to before hyrule was a thing and like The goddess and all that stuff. I thought that Uh breath of the wild is going to be directly after that or within a few years of that And your whole thing was like, okay. We're establishing what hyrule is um And I feel like them doing something around those lines and using the open world in that way Which they kind of did where it's like you are kind of mapping the world in some way where it's like You're discovering as you go. Oh, sure. If it was like that was like your quest We're like, all right. We got to figure out what this place is and that establishes like a lot of the norms Um that we know of now and explains a lot of different things that we didn't have like full answers for Yeah I mean that so breath of the wild sucks now Terrible terrible game Uh, just scrolling through the art here. Looks like there was a Uh a skeletal fairy that looks like a the Lionel design. That's weird I mean It's like one of the weirdest things I've ever seen I'm being honest Which which section are you looking at? Uh, if you scroll into the horse god Yeah, yeah, the horse god was in the game though. Yeah, I know but that look at that design. Yeah It's crazy um King Dora fin Some cool stuff there that looks like they might have had some ideas for the By the way, the reimagining of the Zora's domain in breath of the wild is so cool It is You know from the snes days of it's just a head that pops up out of random water And you never really know anything about them to what we got in breath of the wild. Oh man I mean, I'm just scrolling through this art. I mean that guardian looking tech laugh the guardian taking his head off of the smiley face What the hell That should be in there that should be an easter egg You can use your egg take his head off and he's got a little smiley face It's a special island One island that has a shrine in the middle of it that has a guardian that just takes his head off and smiles at you A major test of humor Major test of humor uh, they got the They got their concept art for the in the Goron city where they put the faces on the The did the old uh, uh, what is it mount rushmore effect there? Yeah I don't know. Is this supposed to be one of the labs? Uh, it kind of looks like a guardian like a building. Yeah, it's well. It's called the tech lab. It's they it's uh It's a guardian shaped ancient tech lab is what's called the book. Um, that's really cool looking that reminds me of, uh, Pokemon I forgot what my name is though. Um the the ball form of Baldore or whatever. Okay Oh, yeah Crap, why don't I know his name either? embarrassing moment There is some early art on redo village with the big propeller Yeah, that looks awesome It looks very, uh, precarious like that village could fall apart at any moment It's pretty, uh Some stuff on the sand seals which looked like The sand seals all the jokes I missed it again gigalith Oh, yeah, that's what got it The sand seals are super cute. Look at that. He's got like a little picnic basket Like they had a whole bunch of merch in the game. They were gonna have based on them Yeah, then again, they did have a lot of the seal jokes in that town. So many Uh They're fairly fun types. That's cool. Yeah, um, yeah, that's really cool. I like those designs. They didn't do that in the game That might have been cool I think we saw a lot of like these sell the designs There's other ones. Let's see here. Um, some of them look like almost like nes or snes styles Yeah, they almost look like they maybe old school ones. They were trying to bring back and reimagine Yeah, exactly Also, one of them looks kind of like linkle What sure Yeah, that one definitely looks like linkle It's rolling down the history of Hyrule. It looks like they're showing Uh, what's it saying? They're showing Apparently Ravalli flew straight to Vamado In the owls. The others followed roughly the same pass linked in to get to theirs Oh, that makes sense because he can fly. Yeah, so he just skipped over everything and went straight But everyone else had to go on the ground. Yeah, that makes a little sense. Um, this was furthest Because I know they they did a lot of testing of the pathing in the game For and they talked about that Um, in fact that whole pathing thing they patched in with the uh With the up with the DLC. It was like, yeah, all that was something that they actually used in development. That's so cool um, man just like I mean, but let's just take a moment. I mean This is a news podcast and there's not a lot of uh, I mean news here It's just like here's some cool early look stuff at what could have been and what wasn't um Just like what are you guys's thoughts on rest of the wild now that we're We're getting into that phase now where we could almost kind of start thinking about like what might a news all the game looks like Like what are you guys's thoughts on this game now that we're at that point? For me is by far my favorite result of the game There's a lot of people that are like split on that because the whole like The fact that they slashed a lot of conventions. They're like Yeah We could do without that, you know like um Like there's there's tons like the the fact that like it's one cohesive theme for all the different things It's like the whole round is a dungeon rather than it being like, uh, we're going to have the fire dungeon and the water dungeon And it's like the whole world is that I It's it's a ridiculous game that being said I was not my game of the year last year. So What was your game of the year last year mario odyssey Yeah, I feel like mario odyssey The the thing that really separated it too for me because it wasn't like mario odyssey by far destroyed breath of wilder But I feel like mario odyssey stuck the landing on what it was trying to be a lot better Then breath of the wild did and it handled a lot of things that I thought were problems with breath of the wild better than breath of the wild Like a lot of the like How you know, they're kind of structured in the same way with the moons and the shrines and stuff like that um A lot of the moons even the moons that aren't really rewarding like it was just as I Ground pounded and I got the moon like it feels Because like you get a moon every four or five minutes or something like that So it's like I'm just keeping me going one more moon like you have that effect But it gives to a certain point in zelda unless you're you have a guide next to you or whatever Where it's like it feels like a grind. It's like, oh, I just need these last two You know like that that whole thing And so I'll make that argument about but I've heard that already gets upset about odyssey Like there's so many moons that like sometimes like, okay, I'm trying to 100% this like why do I have to get like 90,000 moons? When so many of them are like ground pound the ground and a moon pops up Yeah, but is that really worse than the 900 corax seeds? No, those weren't really like particularly rewarding experiences and then what the golden pool wasn't rewarding for you Even along the way, I mean great It was cool that you could like increase your inventory slots But like you were never particularly excited to find a corac. It was like sure yay another little wood drop No, I hear you on that I'm I'm doing a 100 run in master mode right now and uh the coraxes are the worst Like there are some that are Legitly entertaining and original. Yeah, but like so many of them are just not Yeah, and then there's 50 of a particular type. Oh great. I picked the apples off And that was one of my complaints about the shrines too and you had the major test and the minor test of shranks Like it's just the same thing over and over again. It's like you couldn't do at least I put a different enemy in each one Yeah, and that's that that's another thing like a good 40 percent Maybe more than that of those shrines is it's four. It's a formula. It's like, okay Part of these is the blessing part of these is the test of strength and then you have like 70 that are like mini temples Yeah, and then you have even you have eventide island Yeah And then and then they had the dlc ones and the dlc ones were just awesome and i'm like, okay So they have all these amazing ideas left. Why weren't these in the game? Yeah, like why even if they had to like Uh, like dissect the the dlc into 20 more shrines or whatever I would have took that over all the blessings and and and that's like no, I hear you. Yeah, it's uh Very very interesting. That's for sure Actually, one of my biggest problems with breath of the wild is actually one of the simplest things they could possibly fix Said you don't have the one save file. So for me I never once started over and i'm just holding on to my original experience my first time ever playing breath of the wild You know amazing mind blown And I just can't let go of it. I'm like, but if I delete it then it's kind of like Letting you know never having that experience back, but at the same time I can't experience the game over again unless I do that or I create another Yeah, it set up a set up another profile. Yeah, or switch Like, you know, like For codes and stuff like that like what I did is I because sometimes developers are like, oh, we don't have any more code so we'll send you a european one I have a like for each region for event like times like that and That's just what that is usually for where it's like, I want to play breath of the wild again I'm going to do it on my european account or whatever. Yeah, but why do I have to do that? You know, it's a pain There's always had multiple save files, right? I mean If you bought the dlc of master mode save file in normal mode That's true. Oh is so master mode is a separate separate separate file You'll hate yourself more way. So some people actually hate it because oh, I got to replay the whole game for hard mode. What? But yeah, but I'm ready to start over at that point That's easy mode at you had the master sword max out. Yeah. Yeah master mode. Yeah But I want to put the gold line a little full gear. Okay get rocking out master mode then come on Um, man, don't be a play. Yeah master mode does start all over again That's why I'm 100 of the master mode because like I've done everything in the normal mode But I didn't 100 and I'm like, you know what if I'm going to 100? Oh, I want the bragging rights that I did You guys got the true the true 100% uh plus like I mean full disclosure Breath of the Wild is my favorite game of all time Nice So and if it even still today feels weird saying that because For my like I'm 31 for most of my life. Secret of mana has been my favorite game of all time And it wasn't until Breath of the Wild came out that something definitively Passed secret of mana for me. Wow. And the thing is it's not a perfect game Right. No Like I I could point out a zillion faults, but every time I turn on the game. It's just I'm smiling Yeah, it's just amazing what they did people people get really upset about like that that uh that Title of like a masterpiece, you know, yeah And I think 10 out of 10 has to mean that it's perfect But I think a game could be a 10 if the thing that it tries to do the most it Fucking nails Like that to me is like that is also a 10, you know, yeah, it's world building the physics engine Tetris, you know, yeah Exactly like Tetris doesn't have a great story, you know Well, we're good on game boy. Yeah, most people would be like Tetris is the greatest game of all time But like for what it is Yeah, it's a perfect puzzle game at the time it came out. There is I mean even now Even now now you like now like I have uh, I have like tetris attack on my phone Like they've they've done things to spice it up now Right like when you go back and play the og tetris, it's still fun But you could be like this is kind of it has that old feeling to it where You could play a newer tetris game that that spices it up more And these are things you couldn't really do back then because memory limits and stuff like that um But I mean it is just the base concept of tetris as a game has not gone anywhere At all it is so perfect of a concept for a puzzle game. Yeah, exactly Perfect like if there is a perfect puzzle game, that's like one of them. Yep for sure. Um Is there anything else you guys want to say over the while before we move on? It's a bad game. Uh, they should have cancelled it Should have kept should have kept the Wii U exclusive released it in 2015 Yeah terrible um All right, so uh to round out the the topic we started before platinum Um, they talked briefly about bayonetta 3 which so a lot of people are anticipating Uh for good reason. I mean bayonetta 1 and 2 were widely acclaimed to some of the best action games at the time Uh bayonetta 2 was exclusive that upset a bunch of people But it's still one of those things that if it wasn't exclusive it just wouldn't exist so You know either get it or you don't get it and at this point I think there's a lot less upset that bayonetta 3 is exclusive because it was almost expected Um, and they had this to say at the same place where they talked about the wonderful 101 They said from their perspective, obviously there's things they can't talk about Um about dealings they have with nintendo's, uh, certainly they can't say they said anything to the speech That was hey, we should do that whether it is we're going to do that. We're likely it'll be happened Um, they basically took that and expounded upon how they want this game to be Um, like that fans expect a faster bigger better version of everything bayonetta has ever been And development-wise they are setting the bar at that level that like we Are trying to meet actual fan expectations and exceed them and it's just like One they just put a hell of a lot of pressure on themselves. Yeah Like fan expectations usually always outweigh the final product, right? Um, very few games Had game Like very few games meet those expectations or exceed them Some people think god of war is actually doing that today Um, war is just like as far as i'm concerned god of war is destroying Like especially in the story department because like kratos He's a terrible character. He's not a good super one-dimensional. Yeah, he's he sucks But it seems like he's a very good character now Well at the sun aspect obviously That'll spice things up. It's a matter. I mean more relatable this family Attempt what was a ghost asparta with could not yet be that didn't go it's quite so good But um Yeah, so but at the time I don't remember hearing the god of war that's like out there bragging that like hey Fans expect this we're going above. Yeah, and here they're just like fans expect this We're gonna like we're gonna go above that and it's like It's cool. I trust platinum because they make good games like they don't make bad games to usually um Game of the year And it sucks that like the one game I wanted from them got cancelled but skeva Oh, yeah I'm so like even now i'll go back and watch like the footage and the trailers and just like oh my god See that's how they're going to exceed or this is like how you how to train your dragon, but like hardcore version They're going to put a demo of scale bound in bayonetta 3 And then that's how they're going to confirm that scale bound is a switch game now I'm trying to follow the rights to a nintendo picked it up. Um Geez halfway made game nintendo picked it up. Uh, yeah, so I mean I mean Bayonetta 3 is an interesting case for me because it's One of those franchises now, you know, we're two games in a row where nintendo is paying a third party studio for exclusive rights to Um a game that is very different from what nintendo makes Uh, they don't go after like hardcore action m rated type of stuff very often Going basically nudity lots of swimming. Yeah, like it's the it's the hardest m Yeah It's like bayonetta even the character in the game Flirts that line so close to be like this should almost be a oh, but not quite Like you listen to her lines. Like wait, wait, did she just talk about like sex shit right now? Yeah, she wanted to do who up the butt. Yeah Okay, what Those logos on this game I had I did this video on bayonetta 3 that um went over a lot better than I thought it would but people got mad. Um where I made And we'll just go there. I'm One of the biggest pokemon fangirl ever seeing her life But the video's title is bayonetta 3 is a way bigger deal than pokemon on switch And a lot of people it's like initial thought for that is like, oh, no, there's not going to sell as well as pokemon Of course, no pokemon's gonna make so much more money, but that's not the point. The point is pokemon is a no quantity We know pokemon. You're gonna get what you do But with bayonetta bayonetta is a watershed moment if that does well on switch Then that gives a license to other devs to make m like hard m Hard games and stuff like that. Well, it fits in that um In that and kind of like what Bethesda's been doing by bringing those games like if you can build an audience for those m rated Hard core kind like and I'm not even saying you know, I'm ready to be hardcore, but um the approach to adult themes Uh, I mean, you know, you look at what was my tumor. It's also in reality, but it's very much dealing with racism It's very much dealing with I mean the nazis for crying out loud winning the war and the post apocalyptic events of that Like very much like the hard like adult themes that you don't want children really exploring um being out of the same way with with its approach to things And it's like if they could build an audience for that that practically opens up the switch to every genre out there Well sports sports still has to build up there That's what mario tennis is for Mario tennis is for that right right although mba 2k 18 Do we have any final sales on there yet? I couldn't find any I think I think it did well I don't I don't um, I don't remember what the numbers. I mean, we'll know if it did okay if 2k 19 gets announced for switch Playgrounds I know that take two Uh in their financials last time they talked about it. They were like switch is doing really well for them. Yeah Thanks, but we'll see if that's true at e3 when they announced 2k 19 I think the only thing they had on switch at the time was 2k Okay, uh, la la noir was about to come out at that time when they were 2k 18 came out a little later too. Yeah Yeah, that came out after la noir Yeah, yeah, so those games didn't happen yet. It was just 2k. So I would assume it good enough, you know for them to be like, all right We'll make 2k 19 Hey 2k, where the heck is my grandfather? Don't give me the excuse it was on xbox 360 come on. They're gonna they're gonna do it They're going to do e3 The thing is like I think it's a port bagging again. Like I want day to day new games But I mean if we're gonna get ports give us the best of the best ports I think I think I think the biggest Like if anything a dev should want fancy be like, hey, you know that game that you have Put it on this other platform. I'll buy it again You know like and and plus it can set up an audience for the next grant of throttle game on that platform and gta is a game that When you buy a console you buy gta, right? Like that's just how gta 5 has worked, you know I had to play station 4. I have it on xbox one Like, you know, like if you have a console you probably have gta on it It doesn't matter how many times you bought and switch is very much so Another play and it's even more of a reason than like the next gen version of gta 5 being like, yeah I had it on playstation 3, but I need the next gen version of it. Um, right switch is like I could play gta On a train, you know, like sign me up, you know, how many you know, nintendo fans out there have bought uh hyrule warriors three times, you know like On exclusively nintendo platforms the same game three times wasn't a huge seller anyway, but you know, there's somebody out there That's like yes beyond that. It's like like I said before like Previously it was the thing of like the nintendo version a portable gta 5 like what? Like played on pc, you know, they've had they've had portable gta even before but it was like this weird top down Uh ds version or it's not. Oh, yeah. Yeah, gta. Yeah Like it was good, but we're talking like we can have full gta 5 on the go Why would we not want that the closest thing we really had was probably the psp versions, right? And vice city stories and stuff, you know, that was pretty good Right. Yeah, that was good better So it would be playing the playstation 3 version essentially exactly go. Yeah um, we got uh We we got a little thing about seven minutes left on the news I will kind of get through these last couple stories I guess we won't go to the last time because I feel like that's like a half hour talk on its own Maybe we'll come back to that in a future episode if we have to be low on um, first thing I just want to talk about is that takahashi here, uh Said that uh this week that rave race has a chance to maybe come back on switch He was asked about the wave race franchise and he said you may see that game again We have been trying to make many games and that may be one of them So he's not denying that they're making it but he's not confirming You know he's doing that nintendo thing. We're just not gonna yes And then then the key point is he says I personally love wave race and takahashi has a lot to say If he wants wave race to get made it's going to get made um so I mean you got sick wave race is going to come back Yeah, I think that switch is definitely a place where nintendo like Obviously so far it's been big guns first But eventually they're going to get to the point where it's like, all right We're still working on the next zelda thing. So what do we put in the holes for that wave race ice climbers? Give us a ice climber You know, uh, give us give us mother three. Give us star tropics. Give us a new star tropics. Be sweet Just all the weird stuff. Give us a new duck hunt. You know Yeah, it's got a new kid Ecriss in here. Let's get uh, yeah, that one could happen too Yeah, just hit out hit all the old franchises and bring it back. Just just do it again at zero when I was playing uh sea of thieves And the the water physics in that game is incredible and honestly while I was playing I was thinking Oh, this would be an awesome wave race water The water in the game is amazing firm is going to come day and day on xbox one and switch That's how they're announcing the xbox everywhere games also come this way now Nice, you're so sweet. Oh the last story that we're going to touch on here is actually do the sega ages It was actually announced last week, but within the past seven days. They said, uh That sega saturn and dreamcast games could be eventually coming to sega ages So, um, sega ages is for those who don't know out there that this is the first time you've heard of it It is essentially a collection of games coming out on switches e-shop There's going to be 15 games in the collection initially I they've announced a bunch of alex kids one of them. There's going to be some sonic games It's going to be the original fantasy star Um, and some other stuff in there and they haven't announced all the games We know about like five of them right now and who knows how many of the rest will just be sonic games Um, I think we know we might know all of them like it's All of them that we know all of them. Yeah, there's like what like 20 or something like that Yeah, if you go back to the the older version of it that they had on other systems Um, but obviously we're focusing on the sega saturn and dreamcast, which they haven't done yet anywhere, right? Um, like that's not going to be there at launch, but they're saying they might add it in later Um, like is there any saturn or dreamcast games you think absolutely need to come back and give me sonic r Sonic r Um, it's terrible. It's a terrible game. Yeah, I haven't even heard of it. What was it? Oh my god, this is something this saturn dreamcast Was it saturn or was it dreamcast it's saturn Okay, that's probably why I never heard it man. Here's our adventure two Yeah, yeah, and I had experience with those games with crazy taxi also crazy taxi Crazy taxi is on a car is on you know crazy taxi defined the dreamcast man another definition though the dreamcast Sega bass fishing Had the motion controller in everything it was nuts you ban to me I view this as my one shot to get skies of Arcadia on the on the system because they came out on gamecube So like you could say oh part of gamecube whatever, but I'm like no it's not gonna happen If I get the dreamcast version, it's the same game just do it. Yeah Give us the sonic dream collection totally real sonic game cancel the dreamcast give it bring it to sega ages Release a dreamcast classic controller to sync up with our switches. Oh my god, please. Don't I hate that Now you guys play any of the sega 3d games on 3ds Yeah, no, I have not no, okay, they did some awesome stuff with their arcade games Were on 3ds they would like actually have like pieces of the cabinet around you and when you turn on that 3d slider It really felt like you were like almost at an arcade like it They put it so much care and attention into how they were letting you Change all these options in these games. Maybe the game is really hard in arcade So they gave these options to make it easier and and it was really really cool They obviously cared a lot about doing this and I would love to see them have that kind of attention With more sega classic arcade games and maybe that's how they even do Their dreamcast and Saturn stuff like 3d slider confirmed for switches They're just going to give you a pair of glasses, you know No, it's going to be it's going to be that's that's peripherals It's going to slide onto the joy con rail and then you slide the joy con on the Oh, jeez new toy con 3d glasses Yes It's going to look like a set like the sega genesis with like sega cd and 32 x Frankenstein monster There you go. There you go. Um All right, so I'm going to start toss this over to the chat here This is our for the next half hour to 45 minutes It could go as long as an hour kind of depends on the questions we get We cut off no matter what an hour from now is the max will go But if we cut off in a half hour because the questions are kind of low, that's it This is our q&a part of the prime cast This is where you guys out in the chat ask your questions away We will try our best to spot them and get them in obviously if you super chat a question that jumps to the Top of the pile or like we'll finish the question we're on and then that'll be the next question Um, so if you question for any of us a question on games a question on any of the news Question on stuff we make on our channels Um anything at all you guys it is out to you and I know there's like a 30 second delay here between us saying this and it showing up, but um Yeah, you guys in the chat it's q&a time I know a lot of you guys have been waiting for this because friday nights used to be q&a nights So a lot of people waited to get questions in Let's let's get it going here I'm just gonna I'm gonna scroll all the way back up to the top while we wait for some questions coming because someone had a question really early um That I just didn't read because it wasn't q&a time Uh, let's see here Uh, oh it's from em the moon. He was asking, uh, where the f is eric Um, it's not a podcast without eric I'll have to I'll have to let eric know you said that uh For aj over there eric is uh, my best friend. He's the co-host of the antenna prime podcast Um, but yeah, he's not he's not part of this All all of this here. This is uh strictly youtuber podcast So other youtubers. Well, well, this this is like the regular crew I'm hoping that we have but for sure every week and then so as aj 5j game over jesse not drunken at a hotel um bad wi-fi Bad wi-fi and then uh, and then uh hfk wants to be a regular part of it So, uh, he just had a prior commitment this week and then uh, we're every week I'm gonna be trying to pull in more and more youtubers to that To to spread the low because we had a really good discussion. I feel like uh, plus it's also like advertising for everyone We all cross advertise everything and it's just good to build our followings together and get a conversation going um So just just waiting on you guys to get some some questions in here. I guess uh, what we wait for questions Oh, there we go. Uh, oh, yeah, william maybauer says, uh, definitely have aj come back. He was great tonight Thanks Love you bb Yeah, man, aj this is the like the first like I talked to aj 20 minutes before the cast But otherwise we I I literally discovered his youtube channel because of bob Right bob wolf Uh, here we go. We got a you got a question here from ultimate keymaster Says given that i'm playing zeno blade 2 at the moment. I'm curious if they are going to port zeno blade x soon I don't like it after beating it. But do you think it'd find a bigger audience like This game, but please put it on this way I can see that because isn't uh zeno blade 2 based on that engine like the same engine as uh x I don't know. I actually don't know. I think they don't look all that similar. They don't Yeah, I mean those things don't have to be the same exactly People confuse that sometimes. Oh, it's not the same engine because it looks different. I'm like, that's not what the engine is Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised because when you get down to how they feel when you play they do feel pretty similar Yeah, I don't like that game Well, it's very different x is a very different game from one or two completely It was trying to be it was trying to be a western rpg The biggest thing for me that I didn't like Was I I saw the advertisements for the game and I saw the box for the game and I'm like, oh, yeah I want to be that I want to be the robot. That's what I want 30 hours later I'm just becoming a robot after this tedious that I hate that game so much My thing is I think like I mean to answer the base question. I think zeno blade x is going to come over Yeah One because it's it's basically first party. Nintendo owns the studio It's technically second party because they bought the studio, but it's an it's a nintendo game Unlike the wonderful 101, which is third parties is a wholly owned nintendo game and then They also just saw I think right now last time I checked the sales on zeno blade 2 it was the most successful zeno blade game yet So to build off over a million. Yeah, which is the most that they never have one break a million It's like a million in december. Who does that? I mean, it's probably at a million two million three by now. Who knows? Yeah So like it's it's the only zeno blade to cross a million It would make sense for them to follow it up with x this year or next year to kind of give A break to whenever they're going to have zeno blade 3 come Which who knows it's going to come on switch or one, you know switch pro or how far away it even is We don't know but zeno blade x kind of like zelda would feel good to just port that in between in between releases I'd love to see them bring back zeno blade one though Because that game was awesome, but the graphics were so horrid I'd love to see it like a remaster of that game. Well, I mean a remaster of all nintendo games Right, but that game in particular it was it was so big that it looked like it looked too big for the system Yeah, it was way too big for the system. I mean if they pulled it off, which was amazing and we but it's like man Yeah, that's the game that you felt like you know what the we's holding this game You know the game needs a remaster uh gyromite Gyromite With a toy con robot that will still exactly You know Give me a new rob Make him fast enough that if I touch him by accident, I lose a finger Oh geez Sounds like nintendo making dangerous Yeah, that's nintendo Right There's a toy con knife, isn't there They cancelled that one arwing amiibo because it wasn't going to be safe for killing kids. It's like what? Cancel kids Koopa Troopa Hoopa asked if she says we'll ever be on a podcast Those who don't know who she says that he's the guy that does the boundary break series Yes He actually would have been on tonight And like he's not someone who's going to be a regular Uh because this friday night's really busy, but he says he wants to come on when he can He already had a commitment to another podcast. He's on tonight. So that's why he's not here tonight But he he you guys have seen him. He's been on the nintendo prime podcast So probably on the center prime podcast again another time Because thursday's work better for him than friday's but uh, I do expect him to be um on here once in a blue moon I literally like right before this got done recording my podcast And I was I was telling I was telling my friend I was like I'm like I hate myself right now Because I'm talking for back to back so much Back to back is so rough. Which is it's good like this works out Usually because usually my fridays are completely free, but we couldn't record yesterday. So it's like Oh, did that happen to me like on uh on my live stream night like on monday and wednesday sometimes I'll be like, okay So I just did a prime news recording and then I recorded audio for this other video and then I did a discussion piece and then I did an editorial piece And then I feel like I got a break to eat dinner with my kids for maybe an hour Get them also. I'll get them in bed. Then I come back and I got a five hour live stream and it's like The grind baby the grind it's not good on the voice. That's for sure talking is exhausting It can be um what you're saying too Uh, justin levin, uh, he says do you guys think there's any possibility of a smaller or cheaper switch? Yes, uh, no I think um, I think the cheap switch will become the switch that we have now. Yeah. Um, yeah Like you know, like that, uh switch mini Concept thing that was floating around like oh, we need switch me. I think that that's very on nintendo because nintendo is all about like their their um The point of the console, you know, like they're they're very like a b or it's like this is why this console exists and really the only time that they Like pulled that back was with 3ds and that's because nobody used a 3d So it's like, okay, we could put out a 2ds but like for for like a switch mini right theoretically the reason for that console is like the same reason why you would have Like a 2ds, right where it's like it's cheaper I feel more comfortable giving it to a kid But the kid then wouldn't be able to play the lab. Oh, unless you buy another Like like a switch mini is not going to have detachable joy cons because it should be way too small and Like the detachable joy cons are a huge thing with switch Because it's instant multiplayer label Uh, so many games need you to do that. There's even games that are motion only you have to detach them Um, granted, there's just indie games right now that do that, but it oh and lab. Oh Of course, that's one. So it's Complete like it's made possible literally made possible not not in the way that uh, nintendo's like splatoon is not Possible without the gamepad. It's literally made possible by the joy count Yeah, they conceptualize it around the joy cons exactly So I think it's more likely we'll see something more like a switch slim Where maybe the screen size is the same but the total footprint of the system could be smaller Might be hard as far as getting the joy cons on there, but I think all they're going to do is like a year from now They will bring out, you know the switch xl a switch pro or whatever. I think I think uh, and then this switch What they'll do them with this current one is they will remove The uh a dock from the bundle sell just the switch on its own give that to you for 200 bucks That's your cheap switch. Yeah, that'd be great. I don't even think they need to do that to well They don't they believe the price drop of my name But I'm talking about like if we're talking about trying to get it as cheap as they can get it when they launch a new one Like that would make sense because they already sell the docks on their own out there You can just because you don't have the switch that I think like a lot of people are like How is it like, you know, can machine modes like oh we want to sell 100 million switches all more than that We want literally everyone on this planet To have a switch and they're like how they're going to do this 300 one switch And same way for like playstation 2 or any console that really took off like once it's at that $99 price point Jesus christ like there's going to be so many switches So like once they're able to do that and be like, okay, here's our switch pro or whatever That's our $300 console now and now the regular switch is $200 or $150 or whatever the case may be dependent on manufacturing and all that stuff Because since it's built off of the uh tegra x1 chip They can just like iterate on that chip and keep it the same like how sony microsoft did with um Their pro consoles like scorpio and well The nice is that the tegra x2 is actually built on the same architecture So it's a better chip that runs faster that uses less energy So you can actually have longer battery life and more performance So there's already a chip that exists that is like the clear path to what the switch And that's what i'm saying like nintendo has already talked about that they want to do that Where they're like, oh, it's the nx family and all that They talk a lot about how they want to model of their like how their approach to games after apple and apple's not like Oh, we don't know if we can port our apps to our next iPad. They don't do that so it's like I can see a switch pro being a thing and it's like their next generation thing and there's going to maybe be games That only run on that but we'll still be able to play our switch games. It'll be seamless in that way I can I can really see them doing that. I don't think that the mini is feasible. I think that that uh makes less sense for them um not down Let me see here. Uh, this one looks like it's a specific question from me ever norton says uh Nate out of the videos I made this week. Which one do I feel good about? Man, it's kind of a low video week this week for me. I was really busy with my kids probably the um I feel really good about my virtual console video I just watched I watched that before this nice Uh, because I do a lot of on-camera ones, but like whenever I'm doing like an op-ed and editorial kind of piece I'm not on camera. Usually, uh, I might change it up. I might come on camera at the beginning We'll see but right now I don't and I I really liked uh, not so much the editing. The editing was kind of easy on that one, but the uh, how That piece transformed from other ones. I've done in the past where I I used to essentially write out an entire editorial and then I would read it Um, whereas this one I'm like, I just did a couple like weeks of research I just wrote down some key notes to hit on and then I just talked about my topic And it felt like it just flowed really really well in comparison to other ones. I've done So I'm really I was actually really proud of how that one flowed. Um So that's the one I actually feel really good about this week Uh, and that is why I actually added a new stretch goal on patreon For those who are wondering on patreon.com slash Nintendo prime for me to do videos like that more often Uh, because those ones take a little bit of research But I also really enjoy making them Uh, but it's one of those things where I'm already committed to the news stuff and the two podcasts No, like fitting that fitting that in is hard. I don't have a regular schedule for it But I will force myself to have a at least one a week if we can if we can pull off a stretch goal there But yeah, that's the one I'm probably proud of. I'm least proud of my news videos because it's been two days Uh, my kids have just been Like like little devils. Let's just say the last two days So I haven't been that like I actually had an episode a rushed episode of prime news done that I could not get up before this podcast Um And I'm like should I put it up? It's uploaded but then like it references this podcast I go watch this later But like I because I recorded it like two hours at this point like four hours ago But couldn't get it up in time because of my kids and so now I'll probably that'll be another dead video That I wasted my time on this But yeah, that does video I'm probably most proud of this week Uh, just because it felt like that's the direction I want those those kind of videos to go Even if you don't agree with my points. I made like that's all fine. Like You know, it's just it's an opinion piece, but one that I liked a lot. Um Uh dev catch on 1995 says, uh, Nate, when are you going to get to play station four? Finally, there's too many triple a games. You're missing out on like spider man Because of six death stranding dj max respect, uh, not not to mention, uh, horizon zero dawn god of war Uh, and I'm a big sports gamer. So I will be the show. It hurts me that I can't play MLB the show. Um And azillion other games. I've never played the last of us I haven't played any of the uncharted series yet So like Like triple a games. I just can't play because I don't own one right I don't actually I do own a playstation 3 so I could go get the last but like that playstation 3 overheats really easily So I tried out the play the I basically it's one that could play a playstation 2 games So that's what I play on it because it doesn't overheat the system. Um But yeah, I uh You know, I don't know I want to get a playstation 4 pro this year Because I have that 4k tv in my in my man cave that I don't really Do anything but watch 4k netflix on right now um, and like And so I'm kind of interested in the pro even though it doesn't necessarily run things a true 4k Uh Because it's a late. I'm a tech guy. So like it's the latest and greatest playstation. So that's what if I'm gonna buy one That's what I'm gonna buy right that part of me is like, but how far was playstation 5 really? Yeah, it's out. Do I want to invest in the pro now for these games? I mean it might not be backwards compatible so it might not matter I just won't get to play these games unless I own a 4 anyways uh, it's kind of I'm I'm up in the air with the playstation 4 and when you talk about, you know, there's too many triple game a games I'm missing out on the only thing I could say to that is What am I going to find the time? Yeah, you guys know I'm a youtuber, right? You know what you do? Do you know what the grind is like doing that? This is my full-time job and I have a second job and I have three kids I'm lucky I have time to play the games I do play And I only could do that because it's my job technically to uh make time to play these games on switch Um, I have games on pc that I bought in the past six months that I still haven't even launched yet Yeah, because I don't have the time. Um, so I'm in that that stage where when I will get the time to do it Will be if nintendo prime gets big enough that I don't need that second job If I could dump that second job, that's my free time. That's my now I can do stuff That's not nintendo prime and just like play games um So, yeah, I can't I can't do that the more time I get the more time I dump into Yeah, I mean this is my full-time thing anyway, but um, I'm like, all right I got more time time to make another like right now I'm trying to make my channel more efficient or it's like I don't have to do everything where I have been editor that does that Like doing more that stuff so I can all in one That's so I can save time to do free stuff like free time stuff Which I can upload another video, you know, like that that sort of thing Um, but I'm kind of in the same boat as far as playstation goes. I have well I own one technically a playstation 4 but I lost it in a move. So it's like But I have to play spider-man. I have to I abs I have to So it's like I have cool thing in my mind where it's like if I find a playstation 4 that's under $200 before spider-man comes out I'll buy that but if spider-man comes out with spider-man S4 pro Spider-man I gotta do it, you know Yeah, and I have a different problem. My problem is that uh, I'm a variety streamer because I'm a variety gamer Yeah, yeah, I play new games Absolutely, but I also sit here and I go man, you know, I have this big collection of old games And I really want to play this old stuff again I have hundreds of video games in this room hundreds and I want to play all of them You know, it's like when I bought final fantasy 7 8 and 9 at the same time I'd be playing 7 I'd be thinking about 8 so I'd switch to 8 and I'd be thinking about 9 I have to switch to 9 you can get nothing done. That's how my gaming life is I'm playing one game and I'm thinking about another all the time. I can't do that like It's terrible. It's terrible because like This whole youtube thing has like made my gaming experiences for the most part There's some exceptions where it's like I got to move on when everybody else moves on So it's like, all right people are not talking about see a thieves anymore. I'm not I'm never touching it again Like that's the thing. There's like there's like very few games where it's like, all right I'm dropping literally everything to play roughly a while. Yeah. Yeah, they're like zelda. I will drop everything for But like there's not a lot of games even with nintendo that I'll just drop everything because I I can't I'm a father of three that I can't like they have school. They have all the stuff going on like I can't just I can't even imagine that because drop my kid like drop my kids I have the knee. That's it. Yeah, it's rough. It's rough. I I can't even imagine that Different spot than you guys where you guys are doing it for a full time or mostly full time And this is this is my free time. I have the opposite. I have a full time job I'm trying to get something going here, but it's a very limited amount of time. I can even do this stuff I'm hoping one day I can swap those two but Yeah, that's what I've known Hopefully hopefully I just can get rid of that second one eventually, but um So devcatcher also followed up and said that that he's happy today covering PlayStation 4 content It's not fair to just not pay attention to it. My there's a thing. I pay attention to PlayStation 4 It's not that I don't I'm a I am a variety gamer like like 5j I have an affinity and a love for Nintendo hence. That's what I focus my channel on We're Nintendo Prime. So we cover Nintendo, but I definitely pay attention to I just don't get a chance to play As much as I want I almost live vicariously through like easy allies And uh 5j streaming like see a thieves and stuff like that Like I live vicariously through other people playing because I just don't have the time And it's easy for me to take like a 5j stream throw it on in the background as I'm editing a video Like then I feel like I'm getting a taste of that game. Well, I'm actually doing my work You're like a kid. You're like a modern-day kid use by watching dreams It doesn't I'm not one of those people. I think it replaces playing a game It totally does not because I play see if these it it does not replace that but Um, it's at least a way where I get a taste So I don't feel like I'm as out of the loop as people think I am like people assume because all I do is Nintendo stuff that I don't know what's happening out in the world like No, I'm a tech enthusiast before I'm a gaming enthusiast and a tech enthusiast involves the gaming sphere I know what's happening. I'm well aware that god of war is apparently like From what I have seen anyways in my opinion one of the most visually stunning games ever made Like I'm aware of that because I'm a tech enthusiast and that's a tech thing So and that's on a console. We're not even talking about a pc game Um, it's also like a lot of things that that like a comment. I get a lot Since we really doubled down on switch is like, yeah, but like when are you going to talk because they know I have like an xbox and I'm getting a playstation or other stuff So it's like when are you going to talk about those games? And I'm like when when thousands of people watch that, you know So it's like I can make a switch video and it's liable to get 30 40 50 100 000 views You know because that's what my audience cares about and that's what the algorithm cares about It's like when you make a video that your audience of media is like Watching that the algorithm's like oh well, maybe other people want to watch this and then they kicking in the high gear And then they go from there So it's like why risk that with a video about god of war when I know that a video about zelda is going to do better Uh mark greenberg said I want to ask uh, will I make an e3 predictions video? Of course We're gonna have a thing in a podcast Well, it's gonna be more of a betting special. I'll probably have a predictions video And maybe I'll maybe I'll even collab with some people here right on here and kind of go with the back and forth predictions video We'll see Uh, I haven't I haven't done any preliminary like work on a predictions video yet, but Uh, definitely that's always that's part of the e3 hype cycle, right? It feels like everyone's got their predictions Miles will throw something out there, right? Especially if you have a podcast if you're not doing for e3 predictions and you have a podcast Yeah, I have two so come on now. Yeah You now you got to do two Two prediction uh, I guess, uh, kuba true of kuba says what's the most overpriced game you purchased? Kirby star allies Shots fired they dropping the only big nintendo game so far this year I mean, we're gonna call it big Well, that's just to go to show that in terms of sales for sure Well, no it turns out like nintendo hasn't released anything this year But curfew Yeah, but before today Oh, man, that's true. Yeah, I mean most overpriced I'm trying to think of a game. I bought in the past. I answered for everyone Kirby star allies next Kirby star The thing is like when I think I think it is overpriced. I think it should be 40 bucks But like is that the most overpriced game I bought? I mean, I paid 60 bucks for doom last year when I could have got it for five dollars on steam Yeah That's true. That's true. Which you hire him to I mean, I can't take it on the go Exactly. I mean I can't with a laptop, but it's not that but you can't play a laptop like this I ain't playing I'm not playing with a touch pad anyway Forget that. Yeah, it's like No, dude. I'm driving the mouse on the side of the leg on the bus. Come on Get out of here with that This is all things by the way. I've actually done in the past. It's horrible. It's horrible It's horrible. Like it's fine when you're on an airplane, right? You got to trade us at things out It's all right. You can kind of sort of try to make it. Oh, it's not fine unsubscribe to youtube But it's not it's not the convenience to switch just trumps it so much the way more comfortable. Um So let me see here Yeah, I mean most of our price game is probably any game that I buy on switch That's a late port because it's always like Skyrim 60 bucks. It's not 60 anywhere else Yeah, uh Like that's basically those are the ones that I always were the most over by the Kirby star allies Should should have been like a 40 dollar or a 50 dollar at most game No, not even 50 Anything less than willing to pay for that game My ideal price for Kirby star allies would have been 30 Well, then they've done nintendo games for 50 on switch. That's why I was like, maybe they won't go as low as 40 So at least 50 I differentiated like Odyssey's a At least knock it down one notch. See I felt obligated like I would not have bought Kirby star a lot Star allies if I didn't have a Kirby video that was like the super controversial because I did a Kirby star allies video where I was like, uh Kirby star allies does not look uh ambitious enough for me like especially with the the whole thing of like Switch where it's like we got mario odyssey and breath of the wild like these are the big Yeah, it's just another Kirby game. And it's like, oh, that's Kirby again. I mean I I had a good time with it. But I mean it's just another Kirby game I'm like that's it's okay to have just another game. But I mean Breath of the wild and I know not every game can be breath of wild mario pokemon, but it's like It's not just that it's mario's all the pokemon. Did it? Why can't it be that's my question? I don't think it's necessarily that it won't be I think it Kirby is a franchise that you see a lot more of that franchise in the system than zelda, right? I think well, and why can't why can't it all be one because mario and zelda can afford the budget to take five years to make but metric can't You know getting that but we don't get metric games all the time. Yeah, but we don't need it all the time That's what i'm saying. It's like why can't we well if they start doing that with other games Then there's going to be no games on the system for several years You know that we you drought a lot of that we you drought is because of the games we're getting now Yeah, but I mean That is i'm not necessarily saying every single game that they make needs to be that i'm saying every franchise that they have That's this big marquis franchise should have one of those games Like i mean it's coming for god mario or odyssey or whatever, right? That doesn't mean that we're never going to get another mario game You know like we're probably see we're getting well technically we got two mario games We got mario kart So it's like you can still do these smaller games and stuff like that while also Do and it's not like nintendo's like strep for cash or anything like that Well, what I what I feel like it is is I feel like it is you they have their game they have their franchises That they take their time with and then they have their filler franchise I feel like kirby's just one of those filler franchises, right? They just bust out at kirby every couple years So it's like kirby's not that popular it is but what are you talking about? Have you looked at kirby game salesman? They're not they're not that big games kirby games are liable to sell a million bear minimum That's nothing for a nintendo game. It's nothing for a nintendo game. It's nothing. It's nothing for a nintendo game That's this big But for a nintendo game that we know we get every six months Why are five million people want to congregate over when when's the last kirby game we had on a home console? Uh, they skipped we you entire no, they had the kids Yeah, that was that was more than six months and then before that we had yeah, but that's because we you was a flop You know No, it turned you know, I was good though. Yeah, that was good. It's just another kirby game It's not really a reimagining anything. No, you're right. Yeah, I know But I mean that's what I think but like that's what kirby's always been like kirby is Exactly, but that's the problem. That's the problem metroid at one point was always metroid until we got metroid prime Sure Like zelda was always zelda until we got breath of the wild It's like I was thinking about 2d mario They were doing the same thing and it's like look at look at like dunkey kong I think dunkey kong is a good example of like they tried it Didn't work and then they went back to other things like all right now We know we don't want this but let me know I don't want a big kirby game You know like let me try it You know because for all we know kirby could it's sold sold 15 million units if it was I think I think what they I mean they could What they could do with like a kirby is is keep doing what they're already doing because it can't tell me that kirby team's that big So like keep have them do what they're doing So you're still making your money But then like have that side team working on the big like was zelda you used to have two teams You had the top down team and in the big 3d flip that make the side team make the star allies Because that's not it that's not all hands Well, I know I know I know yeah Well, the problem is like to make an ambitious kirby game that that that flips the script the like It's easy enough to take the current kirby team the current kirby team is probably like 10 people Exactly, but i'm saying have them on the big ambitious game and then staff up And give the smaller kirby games not even but you know how nintendo works right they don't staff up They move staff around So that means they got to take away from another franchise to do that, but you know how much staff they have Like not not a lot the whole they have less than 5000 employees. That's a lot That's not dude. They are they're a multi-billion-dollar company ea alone has over 20 000 employees But they're making games for multiple platforms sure But nintendo is a worldwide company with only 5000 employees like there are games that are made with 500 employees Not nintendo games. Oh, not nintendo Like even brother I was 300 And it's also not like even breath like breath of the wild for example A lot of people that are working there aren't nintendo staffers like they still contract people Yep leverage folks from monoliths and so forth Sure, but those are like those aren't like Those are companies they have like partnerships with All i'm saying is nintendo has money. Well, yeah, there's of course they have money Spend some of that money nintendo spend it. Yeah spend it spend some of them Let me see here spend it on pickman 4 I think that game's done and they're just waiting. Uh, so gu king of heart has a question here He says, uh, hey primecast any of you guys want to defend xbox even ig n is now bashing them I think that was immature and they that was that was oh Talk about that that uh little meme post they put up Yeah, it's very unprofessional because like they already have this whole meme of like oh ig n's paid off, you know, like There's so many ponies and stuff like that like for ig n. It's a bad look like I think for anybody else It's whatever it's a it's another meme on the internet But ig n had already it has a reputation issue Right that they just furthered the issue like if they're just going to buy into that reputation then fine I mean, yeah, but then they they couldn't be ig n They were like there's no point in covering anything but sony games at that point Yeah, um, which would be that would hurt them a lot because i'm pretty sure like nvc Like their nintendo podcast is doing better than their playstation podcast. Is it now? I think yeah, since the kind of funny guys left. I think the lines are changing It was it was less about that it was more about switched which happened and then they yeah, oh, yeah The change really happened. Um, yeah Well, nvc it has done well for itself period once they finally Once hosé was there and he regular like started making a regular thing and then now they've continued that after he's moved on Get hired by nintendo. So and I think the fact that Uh, that's like the second or third ig n employee that's been on that podcast to be hired by nintendo They're just like okay. Well nintendo obviously cares about that podcast so nintendo fans should care about that podcast Right and I don't even watch all the episodes. I don't like the new host that much but Oh his direction for the podcast. I don't like I don't mind the person right it's his direction. I don't like Yeah, I don't I don't really think he he doesn't come off to me as a podcaster. No, he's a youtube and yeah, and that's fine I don't think that's mutually exclusive. Oh, no There's podcasters that are great like bop, you know like bop great podcasters. Oh, he's awesome So it's like oh, no, yeah, I mean a lot most podcasts these days exist on youtube anyways But um, I mean like I'm a youtuber and I got two podcasts, but like it's Not everyone transitions well from like standalone video content to let's have a giant conversation with multiple people Right, I think I think that he's like Philip is like a youtuber or was he's he's getting better a lot better now He's a youtuber in the in the traditional sense that a lot of people think a youtubers was one of the guys You know, I don't have any more inside information than you. I didn't even have a Wii U You know like that sort of thing whereas like In the way that we may think of youtubers like a bob or something like like you know your stuff Yeah, that sort of thing and he doesn't really fall in that Category. No, I feel like they should just left pair as the uh the full-time host Yeah The when pair was hosting it I'm just like, okay, this is amazing. You're doing awesome But that's like I know there's no way you can keep doing it though. He runs the entire company Here's the thing even though he's not technically the host I feel like he still wrangles everyone's discussions more than Philip does. Well, it's because he Because he's very good at recognizing that like okay, like this is getting really stale. We gotta Yeah It's a skill to some podcast to be able to like do that whole thing like it's double Dutch Like you gotta know it when you've got to push your way through and say, okay I have this point and I started and somebody like that So the initial question was obviously do you guys want to defend x-bags? Um, I mean, I could take a shout at defending x-bags I have something if yeah, yeah, I'll go I'll go first and you can follow it up. Um So my thing is I actually uh, obviously x-bags really bungled heading into the generation There there's no denying their their marketing that everything they were doing was a big mess at that e3 and And then just whatever like even but even if they're gonna keep the connect in they could have came up with a better excuse They should have never did it in the first place and the pricey and everything was just wrong And then obviously lately it's been the lack of exclusive games Even though It was actually flip turned at the beginning of the generation They had more excuses than sony people forget that because sony's not hitting hard They forget sony wasn't actually hitting hard. They were hitting hard sales wise, but not exclusive game wise um We no one wants to remember that because no one wanted to buy an extra They were winning on uh on mind share They're winning on mind share and they were winning on like the promise Because we're going to most people destiny was a playstation exclusive, you know, but it wasn't I mean exactly um, so I sit back and and I look at microsoft today what phil spencer has done and I actually think um, I actually kind of like what xbox is doing now Um, they're kind of saying okay, we're not going to win this generation or make any sort of comeback So like with x we're just going to focus on look when the first xbox came out as the most powerful platform in the world We're doing that again. Here you go with x. We're just going to be that top dog We don't care about having the most sales because you care about having the most sales traditionally You're not the most powerful platform It's kind of flip turned this generation where playstation 4 ended up But then again, if switch ends up I'll sell in playstation 4 if you consider switch part of the same generation then did switch So, you know, and then there's 3ds to consider in the whole equation as well Um, so either way playstation 4 home console wise was the most powerful platform at the time Um, and now they hit with the most powerful platform They hit with look none of our games are exclusive because we also are in the pc realm Why would we not bring our games to pc? That makes no sense So like console gamers get irritated by it. Let's like dude microsoft owns the pc market. Why would they not do that? Even if they're making you use the crappy, you know microsoft store Everyone has it because everyone has windows. This is there by default um and then uh Three I actually think the xbox game pass of all the companies to try to turn games into a service Microsoft makes the most sense to do it one because they have that that huge crowd of already subscribing people with xbox live And again, they're so heavy in the pc space where everything's pretty much digital these days anyways That it just makes a lot of sense from the offer Like a game as a service kind of package A lot of people don't like that. That's like, you know What one of the major companies is doing and what does that mean from xbox 2 or whatever comes next But it's still one of those microsoft has said they're still going to be making new hardware xbox one x is not going to be the end of it Because they still want to have an underbox tv I feel like while the the only thing the critics of microsoft for right now is lack of exclusives and They've had some come on to see a thieves and and some other ones, but um It felt like ever since the scale bound tobacco Everything just went down. I'm still cracked down still on out. That was supposed to be last year Like everything is just kind of one domino after another after another like they were on a roll and then Scalebound cancellation crackdown delayed now. We don't have a major game to showcase xbox one exit launch and It just kind of all the dominoes are starting to fall in and and that happens I mean think about like all the new times nintendo games have been delayed like this isn't unusual Just nintendo outputs the fact that sony's whole strategy is not letting us know when a game is delayed You're announcing Four years out and it's like God of war could have been targeted for last year the year before but we never would have knew because they just Final Fantasy 7 remake has been announced for like a decade right Right, so it's like that. How long how long was uh, I mean again You could put that one on square if people want but there was uh the last guardian That thing was been announced since playstation 3. We only just got that like it I mean it was not just got that it's a it's a little over a year now Since it came out, but Yeah, it was a long like like sony's thing and I applaud them for this because their fan base just eats it up And they obviously have developed a pattern here and this is what got them going Not only did they have all the price advantage and all of the I clout at the beginning of the generation because microsoft bungled things so badly I didn't matter that there wasn't a lot of playstation 4 exclusives because they announced a bunch of games Without ever telling you when they're gonna come and then they started following three four five years in now And that's great that that's what's making them look so good now But they then they're like well now what well now they hype you up on the next patch of games or five and I can see the PlayStation 5 sony's whole strategy feels like um, like at least when they make these big shows worth of announcements They're like, all right wrap on the on the pitch meeting now. Let's announce every single thing. We just pitch I think they I think they do um, I think they do a lot what nintendo fans wish nintendo would do because like nintendo will be like Here's the next six months and they're like no we want to know three years in advance And that's like but you think you want to know until you become a sony fan You realize how frustrating it is by a system today for a game they announced today That is going to come out on a system a different system five years But I don't think you know sony mind it and that's weird to me that they're bought into that cycle Right, it's like that's the thing that frustrates me the most like i'm like whenever I go to go in the E3 was sony. It's like all right. How many dates are they going to Like it's not how many games is how many dates are i'm going to see and like with xbox You know, I'm not saying that they've been absolutely nailing things, but I mean, I feel like phil Spencer was dealt a really bad hand when he took over Uh, but he has really stabilized it even though there's this lulling games He's recognized it now. He's in this higher up position at microsoft Where he's actively exploring buying new studios and trying to get like he knows this generation's lost So he's not caring what what happens now. He's trying to set things up for the next generation Because games take so long to develop all the problems are having now are dominoes that fell years ago You can't fix it in six months a year two years It's Happened in a day And then you see like microsoft is even starting to get really friendly with nintendo Not just because minecraft's on the system. They're they're there's cross play and they're xbox live is technically on switch like what that's on switch before nintendo's own system I guess I should be surprised. Um But like so there's that then you start thinking well Maybe microsoft strategies games as a service and we offer that service on a nintendo platform in the future or something Like because sony clearly wants nothing to do with them. They've made that very that would be brilliant for them for multiple Reasons because like they have zero foothold in japan Yeah, well, I my thing is like my the way I would handle microsoft moving forward is One maintain most powerful box on the platform just accept you are a high-end market Machine like for your single bus. So like we're gonna have you want to play third party Multiplat games or microsoft games. They will be best on our top end platform, but You can also get on a nintendo and you can get them on pc I think microsoft's biggest strength and this is top down like their entire company not just gaming Their biggest strength is options That's why They succeed over apple, you know, like that that's why they're at the point that they're at and That's exactly the strategy that they're doing with gaming. It's like, hey, you want to buy this $200 box Get the xbox one s. Hey, you want to buy a $500 box and be in the mid tier of like Console gaming and stuff like that get xbox one x you want to be top of the line Playing on your pc get that tighten next or whatever, you know, like that whole thing It's like they give you an option to play their games wherever you want And that makes the process so much easier. I don't I don't have to be like, oh, well I'm definitely buying a playstation 4 when the spider-man comes out. It's like I already have the thing I just need to buy the software and that's the end goal of the thing like for for them. It's like it's brilliant Because they cut them like they're cutting their losses. They're saying, okay We don't have to really double down on as much rnd We don't have to lose as much money as loss leaders with the console Market because so many people that already have a high n pc are having to buy into xbox one x Yeah, we're just getting the Razor we're just selling them the blades. We don't have to eat the razor blade cost You know, so it's like I think that that's a really smart way to go about it I think that it's brilliant that they have that that they have game pass because yes They're they're buying into games as a service You're guaranteeing that no matter how often you use it If you like buy into the idea you buy two games from them a year Yeah, and they're not cutting that with uh Retailers or anything like that. That's two two games that you're buying from the a year Yep, they're getting new with the games of the service. They're trying to make you feel like it's a value Which it is going to be for some people And on top of that, I know it's not a perfect service right now But I feel like they're trying to position themselves almost as the new netflix of gaming And that is actually brilliant because there isn't anyone that's done that successfully yet Right like game flies out there, but it's not a huge deal And that point about two games a year is actually really big because usually console attach rate Is much smaller than you would expect because in our circle of friends We all buy tons of games But out of the millions and millions of consoles they sell there's a bunch of folks that bought two games ever or one ever And then it sat there forever And so the total average is only like three or four games that the average person bought The game pass thing basically guarantees that they have a breath of the wild and an odyssey That's the game that everybody's like i'm buying both of those and that's it Yeah, but every year and then 12 months later, you know the same thing And people are just playing the one thing about three years ago, you know, but you got the two games out of you You know, so it's like, yeah It's not this high that Like all right, we got to pay Walmart. We got to pay for A licensing and all that we got to pay for Shipping, yeah shipping and all that you don't got to do any of that. Yeah shout out to ever know Thank you so much for your one dollar super channel. I did see that Um, see if we got any other questions here I hope I hope you guys thought that was a pretty good defensive on microsoft Like they're just doing it differently and I think that's good It's options in the market like they're doing a different thing than nintendo's doing and they're both doing something different than Sony's doing like it's good. They're giving it where every gamer is going to have what they want I think that's bad for console war Like that's a war culture because everyone wants a box first something different It's not just this thing of like mic things better. It's like no your thing is different. Yeah It shows how little and the funny thing is that sony keeps trying to fuel the war a little bit Because I feel like they know that they've won this gen's console war so like Things like when they won't allow xbox live to be on our platform to protect And it's just like you are so Trying to grip on to that fan war thing like why are you gripping? I mean you can do it because you're the market leader, but like why You should be Fewer it's because like the thing that started that with sega Sega was losing so they're like, hey, we got to make the other guy look less cool than us Yeah, it's only like like dude. We won the console war at the beginning. We won the fans We're gonna keep fueling stoking the flame, but you're stoking the flames against yourself. You're making people get mad at you That's a dumbest excuse I'm never gonna forget that minecraft cannot have cross play because they gotta protect the kids Look at god of war. It's like that whole thing with the ign situation like people are more mad at ign for pulling that then at ign for doing that in the first place Like that whole fanboy thing because that's their side's winning. Yeah Sony I mean and the thing is I I've got nothing against like sony or microsoft for any of these companies But I mean no nintendo sucks. I do get Like whenever there is a hater that I see pop on My in my comment section just bashing everything nintendo does Next thing they do is start praising everything sony does and I'm and I just sit there and I'm like Look, I had nothing against sony, but no one's perfect and there's mistakes everywhere Do you want me to point out all the faults of sony or is that you're oh? Look, I pointed out some things that I don't think sony did well this generation and you just fight back with Oh, but have you seen god of war? Have you seen a good the sales? I'm like, have you seen how well switch yourself? Oh It's gonna flop. Hey, do you see the sales numbers that prove it's not a flop? No, but you're in denial because you hate this it like I don't hate sony it does a lot of good things but There are some negatives and like that's just what happens to fanboys and I feel like Sony has almost thrived this generation. I'm building a fanboy culture around their stuff And the fanboy thing is so weird like to me and I talked about this before we started where it's like to me Being a fan is not blindly following. No really What your thing to be the best possible thing? Yes, and be not just automatically say that it is You know, like you're not going to rule that into existence when when nintendo messes up online You got to say yo nintendo fix that shit, you know What is this voice chat solution? This isn't a solution. Get out of here Yeah, it's and the thing is I'm like, I know it sounds like I'm being like a little bit down on sony That's just because the general attitude. I feel like they've acted like this year um, and it It really did date back to like as brilliant as that marketing was that that first d3 for for PlayStation 4 Like when they said oh, this is how you share games with friends and then like they just hand the game over And it's like Like like they're trolling, you know microsoft and I get that and they just keep doing it Well, they don't heed it like they they're kicking a dog when the dog's already down and admitted defeat And it's doing something completely different from anything and you're still trying to kick them And it's like but why are you that? They're eternally saying i'm not touching you and they're not even in the same worm anymore They have to call them on a cell phone so they could still hear them They're not touching you Yeah Well, it would just be like if sony started like just randomly bashing nintendo for switch and it's like But but weren't playstation and switch aren't the same thing. Why? What benefit do you get for kicking it because you failed with the vita? I what? Like they're gonna start saying we we did switch first vita and it'll just be like Nintendo sales chart year one lifetime sales of vita. Hmm Yeah And that's like I like the debated thing. I don't even know if vita hit switches year one sales No, no like that's it didn't crazy Uh, and the thing is I actually like the vita platform, but like Even people who like vita Know that sony abandoned that platform almost as quickly as they put it out there Um indy's really trying to keep it alive for a while, but people and like, you know kind of funny Yeah, people in their community are like no vita vita's still a thing that exists. They'll fight. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, well it still gets indie games and it's a really good indie game platform But it almost feels like switch has kind of replaced the need for that indie game platform Because now you get game now you get nintendo games and indie games You don't have to just have an indie game platform that has really really old kind of okay ports of triple a games right But yeah, like I actually so like for all the bashing to sony we did like or not really bashing just like some of the negatives Of this gen for them. Uh, I mean they did a lot of things right, you know that they A $400 system, um, you know not forcing the camera on yet Even though the camera is now like a bigger deal today because of playstation vr And that's think they're the ones going all in on the vr side of things Well microsoft nintendo aren't really doing that right now um You know and and there's just all all these different things that I actually like the sony's do like out of war Like the games that sony is is now getting out there like great great games I do not deny how amazing these games are that while even sony's not really the ones making them Because they just bought a bunch of studios. They they're really yeah, but I mean like but I mean somebody at microsoft Like so sorry my like unless you're like nintendo where you created internal studios early on I mean, that's what this would all platform makers. You have to buy studios um But it's It I don't know. I just feel like sony has done such that it's easy to talk positive about sony I feel like because they have done a lot of good things a lot of positive things for gamers Yeah, like the biggest thing that I like about What sony did is they were really good at pivoting because they did not do good for gamers last generation No, and in this generation they were all about gamers where it's like, yeah, we know we screwed up with the price We're cheaper the next box. Yeah, we know the platform was hard to develop for now. It's one of the easiest, you know That whole thing It's honestly like the only thing i'm even mad at them anymore besides stupid remarks or why they can't do cross play Like it's just stupid Just be honest. You don't want to do it because it's a competitive thing. You can't you can't have uh You can have sony players playing with switch player the nintendo a kid friendly platform that has been that uh, um um Uh, the only thing I really have against sony now is that the playstation 4 pro does not have a 4k blu-ray player It which baffles me when they are the ones that push blu-ray in the first place That's their thing like That's their whole thing I I feel like I feel like they kind of don't want that distinction anymore Because like a whole thing like a big thing of like why a lot of their consoles succeeded in the past is because of The movie formats home where it's like it's like oh playstation 1 out because it had the best format for developers PlayStation 2 went out because it was the cheapest dvd player that you really did. Yeah PlayStation 3 was harder, but it still had that on its side where it's the cheapest blu-ray player for a very long time Yeah, I feel like playstation 4 is like their first gaming success So they want to ride that out you want to say no this is a gaming platform and we're going to Just think it's it's so weird to me It's so like the xbox one s which is a cheaper platform has it It's like it's almost like oh microsoft put it in a cheap platform. We can't do that Yeah, let them write them ride that multimedia thing and it's like yeah But dude people are watching the rays on on your system all the time like this is a thing people are doing Um and now you're releasing a 4k system that does 4k netflix, but can't do 4k blu-rays Really it really strange I don't know like because that's as you said that's kind of always been one of the calling cards is Despite what microsoft tried to do with multimedia. It was still always like yeah But sony kind of sort of has an edge and it does multimedia without advertising. It does multimedia right Well, except for it only does everything. Yeah. Yeah But like xbox having like it like the dvd player and and stuff like that like the original xbox Was null and void because playstation did it first So it's kind of like destiny thing where it's like destiny playstation exclusive blah blah That's that's how it is in the in the zeit guys It's like oh, that's a playstation game now because that's where I saw it first Like we were talking about with um with uh dark souls like oh, that's a switch game now because that's where I saw it first Uh mark greenberg said where is game over jesse? Uh, i'm assuming passed out in this hotel room He had he did have some drinks some alcoholic beverages before the stream. He was on hotel wi-fi He's on a little vacation He tried to be here as long as he could he actually was doing he was bringing up some good points and then just dropped And he hasn't been back online since he dropped his mic. He's like, all right Maybe his hotel why forgot about it. You're using too much bandwidth. Let me cut off your wi-fi Uh That would suck that that would suck. That's why like even when i'm going to e3 I made sure I called the hotel before and so i'm going to be uploading and downloading videos You're not going to cut off my wi-fi. All right No harm Did you ask them what their speeds are? Yeah, yeah, which are up Yeah, I said do you have like direct access to the modem I can just connect to please I don't want to be a straight wi-fi And do you have to do the fiber? Yeah, do you have do you have fibers that'd be sweet I should I should do that. I should switch up my hotel. I should find one that has fiber line going in Do it Yeah, we know that's the hotel that's going to cost two grand for the whole week to stay Yeah, especially especially at e3. Yeah, that's going to be the one that everybody has to go to um Of course, it could be booked out by big sites like kotaku and and ign and stuff true true. That's true G.U. King of heart says uh, don't say connection problem as he could have rejoined by now. It was a connection problem That's why he'll originally left why he didn't come back. Yeah, he could have came back But that's the thing like, uh, he might have had an issue getting back online and then he just said screw it He was already having, you know, kind of a party. So He thinks he's still alive. Maybe he's that Talking at his computer His buddies went for a walk they could have maybe came back and he's like, yeah, you know what We'll just I'll do him a salad next week Um Let me just uh, I don't think I saw any more quite which is okay because we're hitting we're getting five minutes away from uh From uh, yeah, uh, so g.U. King of heart like the fact that we mentioned that options were a good defense Um, and that uh, micro hit the c3 microsoft announced a switch game there. That's not gonna happen this either I'm not saying that like they can't announce something But I doubt it'll be something tiny. It's just like, uh, the one, uh, little sony studio that was publishing a game It's like Like switch provides something the other platforms don't right now. So like they don't need to be completely afraid of that Yeah, it's like the ds. They they put games on And uh, gameboy fans, maybe Yeah, so it's so it's like microsoft just just tell nintendo you want to do banjo made new banjo was doing Just don't let it work in in docked mode Just walk the docked mode so you can't do oh man, why is this? There's games that have that. What was it? Uh, the from the guys made guacamole the the dungeon crawling game required touch. So you actually could not play it on your tv Uh, what was the severed severed that was it great game too. All right as we're getting to the end here I'm gonna go start. Um Grabbing some youtube channels here Um As I type in there it is all right So Oh, geez youtube kicked me out. That's always nice Love when it does that so oh, I have to sign in the chat now, of course I have to sign it Why did I'm in the middle of a stream? How do I get kicked out? Explain this youtube explain this to me. How do I get signed out when I'm in the middle of streaming on your platform? Well signed into my account I feel like that happened to me when I was streaming on your channel last weekend. I don't understand. It's so weird The chat replay thing like the what is it called? I don't remember what it's called live chat or something sounds good Yeah, I think that is the reason because that happened to me a lot when they made the switch over. All right, so this is So this is AJ's channel right here Go ahead and give it a subscription if you'd like to check out his stuff or check out his stuff and then subscribe Yeah, I don't want you to feel ripped off, babe And then I'll go grab a game over Jesse's your quick and then we'll give you five days here at the end Even though game over Jesse was only here for the first couple topics. Hey, he was here It's true. Give him some credit. There were other people that were supposed to be here that bailed He at least showed up well drunk to try to make it He was on camera on the stream for a limited period of time and the other folks were not So this is a game over Jesse's channel And then we'll give a little shout out here to five J's channel over here Who's almost like that is entire following but a huge chunk of it was from us already Yeah, yeah after you did that giveaway there was like Some people just you've gained like an extra hundred or so since that's nice Since then I I yeah, I definitely have but I'm really like stagnant right now I cannot get past the 17 70s So I keep gaining three and then I'll lose two and then I'll gain two And it's like no make progress Kind of been that way for me too. So this is uh, there's five days channeler here um And then uh, you know before we go, why don't we uh Well, why don't we have some fun and uh, let me see who's live streaming right now Let's see if we can give anyone a good old little raid I haven't ridden anyone in quite a while Hey, look at that Zelda says he's dubbed some to me before you Oh Let's see here. It seems like anyone I know is streaming right now. Um Oh, let's see here. That's just general. Let me go back to my home page of gaming that youtube and see what it says Best way to find who people I know that are streaming Uh, I think you need to drink more before you do this Nate. You normally do a drunk Well just for that I've had a shot poured for a little while. Take that quick. There you go. See gotta get into it Name player essence is live, but I don't know if I want to Raid him when he's got more viewers on his stream already than I do Um, I'm trying to find someone who's like a small let me just find a random random tiny streamer That doesn't have a lot of people watching. That's me dude. It always gets I was really about to make that joke Dude, you know how the last time I rated someone they had like two viewers and then we had like 30 popping in their stream They were free like it makes me smile like getting these small streamers that never get more than like three people watching Like it freaked out so much Um, let me see here. I'm trying to find someone to stream in a Nintendo game by the way Keep it cut semi related here So no one that's playing Dark Souls That's why truth what game are people we playing right now for a Nintendo game. Let's see here rocket league switch But that could be there could be a rocket league switch player Look here rocket league switch. Is there any lives? um Let me see Yeah, here's one All right, let me let me I gotta check the stream first make sure it's quality Well, it's got really loud music But that could be the new feature of in-game music playing during the matches Okay All right. Yeah, let's give this guy this guy a little shout out here. Uh, this is uh Nintendo chit chat Uh, I'll link it up here And let's let's go rate them and show them a little love a fellow Nintendo youtuber that no one knows Maybe you do know him. I shouldn't say you don't know him. Maybe you do It's probably bigger than me Great. Yeah, he might be bigger than you got 12 people watching so Oh, I get that I mean depends Just hit up with the uh mp raid I think the most I ever had was like 40 something so Not super impressive. The music is a little a lot loud for my liking. We get to have a party then Dude, uh I think do we raid one of your streams once 5j? Yeah. Yeah, I think uh the night that you got a big donation for your e3 stuff Yeah, yeah, try to make me uh play video Meet my policies for my channel. I'm just like come on change your policies for prime time It was it threw off important to notice the raid has he noticed it yet It threw up the statistics, but I mean, isn't the little one match to be fair 100 views over The stuff around that time Edward Norton gave my dollar. It's like notice us Yo, that's probably the most he's ever made That's savage probably not the most he's got super chats enabled. I'm sure someone's I used to have super chats enabled more Yeah youtube policy changes. Yay Thanks youtube. Thankfully, I'm big enough to not worry about it yet I'm waiting for them to make it so even anyone under 50,000 you're done At least it motivated me to finally actually put stream labs into our north end of again Notice is he's so into the game right now. He has no idea what's happening. Yeah, wait. It's a goal If somebody gets a goal, then he actually looks at the chat. I get it. Well, it's live You're trying to keep the ball out of your net. Yeah, you pay attention Yeah, I mean, that's what when you're in a multiplayer match it gets intense Yeah Maybe you're just trying to beat out more money, right? I was just keeping I'm not gonna pay attention Maybe I'll just keep donating until I finally notice you said hi Maybe we should look for a breath of the wild guy that could pause this game. Oh, that's true Hold on retreat retreat. Well, he's looking at the computer now He said nothing that's lame. We gotta find someone to react better than that Do you say nothing or was he like really behind in the chat and he still hasn't seen it yet? I don't know how far behind he could be There was no one chatting too much out That's true. So even though I don't have a lot of viewers I have this little community now. So at least the chat is like here we go How big is this guy? He's got only seven people watching Um, I can't all right doesn't tell me how many subscribers he has on youtube. He must not have very money Here this guy's playing breath of the wild right now. His name is jays tv Let's see. Let's see if he reacts a little better to us sending him some love here Um, I think that he we gave real excited with the with the super chat. That's rough. Yeah all right, let's see, uh Let's see what happens with him because he should be popping up to like 20 viewers. That should that should get him pretty excited So I just put the link in the chat for everyone who's still watching You know wants to go raid this guy's playing breath of the wild right now only a seven viewers. Let's give him a little love Yeah The other guy didn't really react very well I I like it to people who appreciate like when they're getting that boost and boost and viewership because like we had uh spawncast uh, they raided us um A couple weeks ago and uh, like I was so appreciative of like all of a sudden having all these extra viewers There it is There it is. We can't hear anything that's going on though. Yeah I know His audio is not good levels Act it out for us I should open up my own youtube. He needs to change his uh Yeah, he's gotta be small too because you can't super chat him either He's he's at 5j's level I'm so sorry for him He's got an x music. I mean that's oh, that's awesome. Scott pilgrim uh, a little animation there Very cool All right. Well, that's gonna do it. Uh, thank you guys for tuning in to our first ever Uh prime cast we'll be back here same time next week as we get going as the episodes get going. I'm sure uh Because I saw I think our peak our peak viewership hit about 31 32 live Uh, that's uh, that's good. Let's it'll keep growing every single week the more we do this more youtubers We bring in I hope you guys enjoy Uh, this little show more even more than our traditional q&a We'll be back same time next week 8 p.m. Central Friday or prime cast episode 2 Can't even tell you what we're going to talk about yet because the news hasn't happened Call in now, uh star tropics confirmed Hmm mother three mother four mother four Oh man spin-off father, I love it father Yes All right dad at work all day All right, folks. We'll uh, we'll catch you next week. See you. Bye