 My younger brother Chitambala, the one called known as Mu'elualen, what do they call him? Mu'elualen Chitambala went and attacked me that Chishin Bakamwidi was being tribal when those boys visited this house. Shua ni Mu'elualen mu'elualen, nāngu māri pato'u mun tu, mu'ufua'u ku'u mone'u ileshin na, at his a tribalist. Where was tribalism in what I told the young people? E fila batila pa' no ch'u halo, ta pa' baku wani'ya?  Мосwā                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I found the missed call from the president and he had sent me, he had forwarded me Mu'ewa's discourse and there was a message that he wrote to me and I caught what the president wrote to me which is very, very unfortunate. This is what the president wrote to me. He said, my dear colleague Mr. Kamwili, I am sure you are aware that it is a crime to promote tribalism in Zambia, end of court. When I saw this message, I was extremely surprised. I caught the president back and we spoke for 45 minutes. I told him, my dear president and my dear brother, I am shocked that you have written this message threatening me because this is threatening for the president to write a message to a citizen and tell them are you aware that promoting tribalism is an offence. I told him, what have I done for you to write this message and know those people who came to your home were singing that I asked my dear brother, have you watched the recording of what I say to those people, the discourse between those young men and I. He said no. I said look, in that discourse I cast gifted those young men over the singing of that song because I don't subscribe to tribalism. The same way you felt that it was offensive for them to sing that song it's the same way I felt when they came and it is on record I can even send you the link for you to know that you know for you to know that I was not pleased or amused by that song we discussed for about 45 minutes he brought in issues of saying no no no you during the campaign you were saying people must not vote for a tongue I challenged him I said you can go and get all the audios both on radio and my discourse at public rallies there is not even a single day that I said never vote for a tongue of president to the contrary I was condemning the region of voting in southern province and I said since UPND was formed the people in southern province have only voting for the UPND and records are there to show and I told the people we should not vote on tribal lines because if you vote on tribal lines supposing the people in northern province also start saying we are also going to vote for our own supposing the people in Lamberland says we are going to vote for our Lamber colleague supposing those in northwestern suppose those in eastern province we are going to divide the country this was my message throughout where I went he told me no no no you were saying you should not vote for Haga Haga or Higi Higi I said no Mr president you misunderstood me I was saying look if provinces start voting the way they voted in southern province in the previous three elections for instance if the Tongans formed a government as a tribe by voting their own opportunity get me leave out Mulenga if there is a band that they say leave out band if there is anybody with the name Haga or Higi they say give him the job all I was saying was to advise people against regional voting and never underline this way I said never vote for a Tonga president why would I sing solo secondly I am on record all the recordings in Luwapula all the recordings in Muchinga and all the recordings in northern province and I challenge the president I can send the links I still have them I was saying telling the people don't vote on tribal lines even me as Tishim Bakamburi if I come to northern province and say vote for me you should reject me then I don't mean well because we should not promote tribalism and the region of voting I told him I challenge you Mr President so he said no then it is just a question of misunderstanding or interpretation I said yes I have always wanted to have this discourse with you because this idea of you saying Kamburi is a tribalist has gotten out of hand I'm not a tribalist and I told him look my father's family are seventh day and my father was seventh day I am Catholic myself my father was seventh day my younger brothers my younger sisters are married to Tongas because in the seventh day the major tribes are Bemba and Tonga so my brothers and sisters are married within the church and they have married Tongas and some loses now if I become a tribalist how am I going to treat my niece Lusubilo how am I going to treat my niece Mutinta my nephew Makwaza how and where am I going to take them I said this to the president on our discussion and I said I hope I've made myself clear and please don't treat me like somebody who hates the Tongas I love the Tonga people have nothing against the Tonga people ask my young my sister in law and my brothers in law who are Tonga the way I treat them you see the only thing is people want to create an impression that I hate the Tongas I hate the Tongas so that the Tonga people cannot give me their vote that is not right and I think we must stop this so today I left my house and went to the farm when I came back I was told police came to bring a call out that they want you at Forsed quarters I even remembered they have been instructed by the president because they threatened me he told me this is an offence but I never committed an offence suffice to say this is not the first time that the president is threatening me again when I spoke about African he sent me a message to say you are going to find yourself in hot soup and you fail to come out of these problems now how do we have a president who threatens citizens and when we say police are instructed from state house people think it's a joke what have I done for you Mr president to send police of me all the records are there even the police officers you are being unprofessional I know what instructions you have been given because I did find out from the system and they have said no the instructions they have given us is to lock you up like tidy don't give you police bond don't take you to court on time 3, 7 or 10 days behind bars let me tell you Mr president I am used to this I have been treated like this before I was arrested 16 times and every time I was arrested I was detained not less than 5 days and by the way I have even been to jail I was in jail for 18 days on political intimidation and political persecution I am used and for you who brought the call out please bring it back tomorrow morning I am around and I will report myself I will not be intimidated in my own country each member still in gulu we bakon kei di lo mo mo in gulu we bakon kei di lo mo mo so I want to tell you that I will not be scared come tomorrow bring the call out or phone me tell me where I am required because they didn't collect the call out so we don't know what is there and we told that police brought a call out that I should report myself to force headquarters and I know it is under the instruction of the president Mr president you forgotten so fast what you and I went through you forgotten so fast what you were complaining about and you want to use the police to intimidate your opponents even sending the messages this is a serious offence two times you threaten me but I will tell you one thing Nari ko samukati na kunse Nari ko samukati na kunse Nari shim pula nifu afi oku akushomutui itchwen but still our papa kalam our papa kalam so call and detain me the way you want to detain me but I challenge you to meet in court and see whether I have committed an offence of tribalism don't start intimidating people in any case in any case me if somebody says if somebody says you are a thief and I am not a thief I will not panic I will not panic but when people are saying something and you start panicking even to want to arrest those who are innocent I will leave it to the Zambian so please and I want to warn mubanga minister of small and medium enterprise today I was watching you when you are the BEMBA people explaining about tribalism the BEMBA ministers you said and I quote but I am willing to if you are a pro-mort tribalism I am not a tribalism mubanga I don't play dirty politics where I pay people to come and to me this house a lot of people come to complain today I had a delegation from commessa complaining about how they are being treated I don't pay people to do that and I will take you on my lawyers are already writing to you to justify that accusation and also my lawyers my lawyers Fred Gerrand company are writing to you so that you can justify that this country belong to all of us Tunga, BEMBA, Lozi, Mwanga Kaonde everybody is a Zambian and when somebody is discouraging something it doesn't mean is promoting it I can challenge everybody to play even tomorrow to start playing what I used to say in the campaign on ZNBC and see whether I was promoting tribalism or discouraging tribalism you see with me when I say something that I realize is not pleasing or people are not happy with it I apologize for instance when I said that in southern province even if Jesus came and stood for elections they will vote for HH and not Jesus I realize that was offensive to the Tunga people I went to the Tunga chiefs and apologized but I'm not going to apologize for what I never did people have gone tribalist hey tribalist I'm not a tribalist our family believes in diversity that's why we marry from all over we don't just marry from one tribe so to try and paint create an impression that come with is a tribalist is neither here nor there even you secretary general of UPND my lawyers are also writing to you for you to say that come with was was being tribal towards the people of the copper belt the people of central province the people of Lusaka province the people of north western and the people of western why do you want these people in these areas to rise against me I only gave an example of the voting pattern in southern province I never spoke of the voting pattern in western province I never spoke of the voting pattern in western copper belt central Lusaka etc but you want to create a narrative that's what I did for your unselfish political need so that these people can rise against me as an individual that is not correct so my dear police are the last people that I fear because when I know that I've not done anything I'm not scared I can tell you tomorrow when they bring the call out I will appear but I know that it is under your instruction that you want me to be detained I am ready for that 18 days in jail is not a joke for 5 days or 10 days in police custody what we need to do in this country sort out what the people are complaining about sort out the cost of millimew sort out the cost of petrol today you've just increased the price of petrol sort out the shortage of fertilizer sort out the shortage of millimew in Kawe they are lining up for millimew in most rural areas the price of millimew has now gone to 240 and you are telling us go and eat roller mill we don't want to eat roller mill we also want to eat breakfast but we should be able to afford the breakfast so sort out you have so many things to sort out and like following when shimbakambuidi speaks get the good things that shimbakambuidi is talking about don't go and create stories against shimbakambuidi you are wasting your time shimbakambuidi has been done before and let me tell you there is no government that has succeeded by using police to intimidate the opposition except in Uganda but here in Zambia immediately a government starts using police then that government is insecure then that government is insecure so you are only telling us you are insecure because if you are waking and you know you are delivering to the people of Zambia you can't start following trivial issues even accusing other people of things that have not done but when a government is failing to deliver the signs start coming out by the way they behave by the way they use the police the way they use the courts you know this government is a failure but I want to tell you there is room for you people to improve improve on what we talk about but don't start locking up your people you when you are locked up president you cried far even up to now you are arrested for 15 times so you are arresting others arrest them so you are arrested is still in detention and yet when you hold your press conference you say as when you arrest you the next minute you are given police bond yes what he said was not correct even me have condemned it particularly when he talked about and when he said all members who support the UPN they are useful idiots that is inappropriate but if you think he was being tribal charge him take him to court don't make him rot in detention and I know instructions have been given let him join Tairi go and lock him up please charge me tomorrow if you have an offence against me take me to court and let's meet in court and let the court decide whether I was being tribal or not this idea of micromanaging government institutions by state arms must come to an end because I'm telling you win a Zareela and let me say this Zambians watch whatever you are doing as UPN you can pretend by bringing 40 ministers to try and explain but if the people are complaining no matter what you are going to do the people of Zambia will speak in the ballot my advice to you guys get on to work deliver to the Zambian people deliver your promises then all of us will be happy the people of Zambia will be happy but this idea of no the IMF came no the IMF of this IMF are not voters the Americans are not voters and by the way we get into government total impress the western world to create an enabling environment where the Zambians can live happily be able to manage to have free meals be able to manage to take their children to school look after their families afford basic needs once the people are happy you don't need to be explaining to them that we have done this so my name is in UPND guide the president correctly and my dear president I am a citizen