 All right, so we'll call the meeting to order Any anything needs to be corrected or amended to the agenda if not just need a motion to approve Okay, all in favor eyes and hand raised razors have it And we have no appointments this evening so we will jump right into public comment So if there's anything that anybody has That's not part of the agenda this evening. Now is the time Only see Paul and Owen online and Dave in person so No, it's seen on my hill. There's some trees that are going to be in the road Sometime a little rain or a little wind. I'm wondering if you want to get a tree warden somebody take a look at Yeah, we don't need the tree warden that's only if they're like shade trees so where whose house are they near it's down below my house Okay So it's between you and it's between actually it's the driveway below me which is Joe net net cell and Rebecca something I can't say your name. You said Joe Netsville. Yeah net net ZAL ZEL Try to just as you go around the corner for that field. It's right there on the left and it's Coming out in the road pretty good and All right No, I know they're Things keep being the saturate as they are they'll end up falling down here shortly. Yeah, so I know this week They I think that they're gonna go get that temporary bridge because they have to go get it So they're gonna go get it And I'm not sure if they're working with Sven Scribner to set it up this week or if they're setting it up next week But I know they're gonna go But anyways, I'll tell Morgan. Thank you on on camper crow that Joe mentioned last week. Yep Morgan already checked it out He said he's aware of it. It's totally fine. Like it's rooted. He's like it's just growing that way for son And he's like it's not it's not dead. It's not an issue So Morgan said he so he looked at you know exactly what he I was talking about. Okay, so I'm like, okay All right, I'll make They can Anything else public comment hearing none or move Forward doesn't mean that somebody can't comment at some point We're usually pretty good about that here So we have a whole bunch of Licenses renewals So the funny you just get that one page now off from the internet. So I did Pam I could see I wrote in like Tessie's taverns outside consumption permit So I did write in their hours on there and I crossed off when we didn't need and we had a new one on here So I put that as a separate motion the others are obviously all renewals And I think the only one that we had It's like a zen bell or something Namaste And I know we probably already talked about this last year when we approved it, but I know in the past we had some issues with the outside Consumption permit Tessie's with noise. We have it in Sundays wasn't it like Paul wasn't it like a Sunday or something that people were complaining about the noise Sunday evening or well back in the Beginning when they first set up that out little sitting area there There was questions about lighting and it was questions about noise from the from the adjoining neighbor there But it seems to have been resolved. They went back to the DRB the DRB told them to make sure they had down like down lighting and So I haven't heard anything about Problems with the noise in the past few years cost. They've had change in ownership, too So they haven't been hoping a whole lot Right. Yeah, no, I haven't heard anything in the last few years either. So just probably just not to keep an eye on that Oh, yeah, yeah, so I just had a question about if they need an outside consumption Does babes need an outside consumption through or is that part of the It's considered to be connected to the building or how does that work? Maybe Olin can answer that question There he is hi Hi, everybody We should have put in a renewal for outside consumption permit. Was that not included in our Last month's application I'm looking at let me look at the list. No, it says Let's see is that the complete list of all wait a second. I you know what I don't know This is not the complete list. I think we already gave them. I think they're you did last month I don't have last month's with me Paul I only have the list that Pam gave me of the current ones So I don't remember if babes outside consumption permit was part Well, did you she mail it to you yet or did you download it just did a one and a three for them The one and three but for some reason I thought we did a Outside did you have a separate outside consumption permit on we do we have one for the back patio Then you might want it to take a look because if the past minutes only said that then it you might want it You're just you know what give Pam a buzz in the morning because she can look you right up on the DLC website and See, maybe it's this whole new system and Pam says it's kind of clumsy Funky and we didn't it's been really funky to get over to the online system But we should have had it in there. Whoops. You just went we can't hear you now Well, I think it's on our end. I may be hang on. I think it's us Whoops hang on. Sorry Owen. It's us not you The minutes of last month say the base bar Yep That's what yep, that's what Paul's son Still can't hear you it's Working on it It should work now Yeah, so you know what just give Pam a call or if you're headed into work you could send her an email She's Bethel town clerk at Comcast net and she can look because she has said it's a very clumsy system so You're definitely gonna want to Deal with that however that being said if Owen Needs an outside consumption permit renewal. He would want it renewed at this meeting because Otherwise he cannot use his back patio until after we meet again Can we just Can we just not having a formal Application in front of us can we give him a? Yeah emotion contingent upon Yeah Yeah contingent upon Owen Working out the logistics with DLC and paying Pam. Yeah, because I otherwise you wouldn't be able to use a patio And we don't want to do that to you. You could get a nice day here So what are your hours? Yeah, what are your hours Owen for your We're open from to two to ten Tuesday Wednesday and Sunday and then two to midnight on Thursday Friday and Saturday All right, Thursday Friday, but you're outside consumption permit. Do you didn't permit till midnight? Did you didn't you just permit to like I? Think we've heard it until 11 p.m. I'm pretty sure on the weekends This is off of my memory, but it would it would be good to do it until midnight because We are open until midnight So Thursday Friday Saturday two to midnight and then you're two to ten Tuesday and Wednesday Sunday Sunday Tuesday Wednesday Okay, sorry. I'm just trying to take notes. So you're closed on Monday. We are yeah Okay, so you would want your outside consumption permit for those hours on those days Yes So we could just we could just do one motion that yeah takes care of all the ones we have in front of us And then we could do a separate motion for babes. Just have it in case they need it and that way it doesn't hold them up Yeah, yep, okay All right, so I listen anybody has anything further I entertain a motion to prove the First-class license for Ollie Fisher LLC first-class license for the creek house diner First-class third-class and outside consumption permit for Tessie's tavern Second okay all in favor And then I would entertain a motion contingent upon babes bar filling out all the appropriate License agreements with the state. Yeah Do we need any parameters on that for outside consumption? Yeah, yeah So moved Second okay all in favor All right there done. Yeah, so you can you're welcome. Yeah, so you'll just square it away with her with Pam She's the she's the one Okay, yeah, thanks for Paul. Otherwise, I only get what I get from Pam. I don't so it's a good thing Paul's on it Yes, thank you Paul So the next one Vermont mobile spirits is different so Pam and I discussed this and Pam called the liquor control they're using the kitchen at one of Kevin Berry's building sorry for their kids so we were talking about it because it's interesting So they're gonna they need approval for a first and third-class liquor license But then if they're going to go and cater events, they still have to get a separate catering permit So I don't know if that's a change in the DLC law or what it was interesting She Pam called liquor control because it was not something we'd seen before Because they're not serving alcohol there. She's just using the kitchen So it wasn't interesting. So I assume they just changed the laws. That's why I did it as a separate because it's not a renewal Okay, so just needed a motion to approve Vermont mobile spirits LLCs first and third-class liquor license Question first if they're not gonna serve alcohol there why Why are we involved with any kind of liquor? License because it's a first-class commercial caterer and a third-class commercial Kitchen license again. I don't know we you know, like I said Pam called liquor control because We've never seen this before and they said that yes the select word does have to prove them Yes, they have to get these liquor licenses But then they still have to do their cater their permitting if they're to cater so it is unusual Dave I'm assuming that they change the law We want your money extra fees. That's right. So yeah, so it's a yeah their first-class and third-class commercial catering licenses So Kate I Think did we have we had a motion on the table right? No Yeah, did we yeah, I just I interrupted okay So a motion seconded all second Okay on favor motion I did. Oh, I was like Well, he made a second No, I made the motion. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was confused myself. Yeah, I'm just throwing turbo balls here I don't know. I don't make the motions. I just entertain a motion Just figure we get you over So we need it select board meetings as entertainment Owen has raised his hand so he has a question. Oh Yeah, I was just wondering If you do if you are approving a first and third class license Does that mean even though they're not intending to would they be able to serve out of the premises? You would have to ask Pam but I can tell you this here's the difference Say Tessie's tavern if there's is written as a first-class restaurant bar License this one is written as a first-class commercial caterer and Third-class commercial kitchen. So I'm assuming that the answer is is no because their Application titles are different So but Pam is the one who called liquor control. So I would say no Owen they only have a little kitchen They do very little prep there. So Pam had said they weren't going to be serving alcohol There they They just use his kitchen So yours is a first-class restaurant bar license theirs is not So it's a different type of license that just because they might store Maybe they store alcohol there I don't know I like I said Pam called them because I said are you sure that the select board needs to approve this and she said yes But you can you know when you square away your outside consumption permit with Pam just ask her Owen She'll give you the scoop because she's the one who talked to them Interesting, okay But yeah, that's that's why first-class commercial caterer so they're getting different license is States is looking for some extra revenue. Yeah, could be Any further questions in regards to the liquor licenses Okay, we'll move forward with the local emergency management plan adoption. So that's something that we adopt annually It has to be to our regional planning mission by me And really it's the same whiz. We've done every year, you know, we go through it and as I said in my notes I read it Kelly Dave al-jageti. I had Richard Manning read it this year and then we sent it to the new assistant fire chief Greg Timmons And so we all kind of go through it make sure that the contact information is updated For the contact list the interesting thing is it's not a public document So we don't put it in the select board packet because it gives out a lot of phone numbers and a lot of information But I have a copy of it obviously the fire chief that you know people that need them have copies so But anyways, so that's why it's not in your packet. So it was really just a cursory update updating school information and The different things like that so no big changes Okay, so just need a motion to authorize Myself to sign the municipal adoption form so Second, okay all in favor So called form that we haven't seen that we're just assuming is correct You get that on get that on the minute. I did put this in here this time this required elements Just kind of for my own Sections that was in but yeah, that's weird All right, and we had a resignation from the energy committee Yeah, unfortunately did they have a potential Too bad right now it's yeah, it's Nicole Vincent Bergamo do they still have to win the go from me. No He's world in nope. It's just Scott Putney, Nicole and Vincent Bergamo Okay, I mean they had two people from real to the one way, right? Yeah, they were voting members or whatever. Yep, they're gone Law school student does and does Randolph have an energy committee. I believe so, but they don't anymore or you don't know I just wondered no matter how we talked before how well, I think that you know a lot of towns don't have an energy committee So maybe there's an opportunity. I'll make it up that somebody from Rochester could join I think that's why she part of the reason she's trying to get these people together these towns But when she came to last meeting so that let's see what everybody's doing and talk about regional Because yeah, some towns just I know royalty didn't have my understanding that the town of Randolph just Got rid of its energy committee or just went in action. No it didn't go inactive. It was too active. Oh They kept asking the select board to do stuff We will make no comment They got their own town to run. I don't know I hadn't heard They might come up with a good idea I Was more to it than You know or the select board court could direct them in a direction that they wanted to see gone And you know, I mean like but I don't I mean just might be I don't know put feelers out again Yeah, well she has been and I'm hoping that once the once the people get together for the that she'd talked about getting these Town groups together these other towns that that might help is especially now I mean thank goodness. She got that grant for the labor Because there's three people it's difficult. So we'll see hopefully People are out there. Well what the planning commission meeting at the public hearing Jean was there and I told everybody didn't I just said there Is there is a place for you? We will find a committee for you Yeah, so Also have to see but anyway, so Chris had new commitment so he had to resign unfortunately, so Okay Someone wants to read a good article on energy should read the Article on digger today from The Western part of the state that huge farm is putting a two million Gallon digester they're gonna make up make met enough methane to be equal 860,000 gallons of gasoline And they will pipe it all into Vermont gas pipelines Okay Why did VTCs digester go offline gasoline? Compared to it with with the energy you could compare the amount of energy you get out of eighty eighty six thousand eight hundred and sixty thousand gallons of Gasoline you're gonna be able to get that same amount of energy out of this digester I know one of the farms in Addison County had put in a digester, but why did VTCs digester? I don't think it was big enough Don't think we've been up to the cost of operating to keep it going. It wasn't enough output. I mean we're talking about a 2.5 million gallon digester Alright just need a motion to accept Chris Scheffler's Resignation energy committee move to accept with regret If we and if we don't accept then he's still on right Signing up another year, I'm sorry nobody Jean who moved it you moved it Dave moved it. No Dave moved it. Yeah, Gene second it all in favor Paul what are you up to you want to be on the energy committee? I know no You just leave him alone Yeah Right so I'm gonna try to put him on that on the planning All right, and then we had the We had the fair and impartial policing policy that was part of the rock criminal justice training counsel Yeah, so this is just Yeah, it's just I know well what happens is we have several we have this one. We have the body camera we have the Use of force so I think we had four and what's interesting is they're pretty much all dictated by the state now So you just go to the criminal justice training counsel and you print theirs out, but I had was reading about it and I had Somehow I saw a link to when new skis and I and I really liked when new skis in a way because they had worked with it Immigrant population and I felt like some of it just dialed back some of the language because yes the police officers like Chris is saying You could do this you could do that and but some of it was just I think made it kind of a brief or statement Obviously, we're not right near the border and we have other fish to fry We don't I think we're just focusing on issuing whatever. I don't think that the fact that they may be Legal immigrants is just not the issue that you know, we won't ask or Justin kind of focusing on but all the language is very You know it's all comes from there and there was a couple that I'd read and I was everybody would read it like officer-in-charge I just put Vermont State police so there was a couple things and then I would white out sections and just said C section This section below because a lot of it was just redundant and just kept saying it over and over again, but I Wasn't sure the only real Change I had made was this one where they have the whole federal federal criminal border crossing And they have this whole spiel and then I liked when new skis. I thought it was simple Language where they just said um Agency members shall not make warrantless arrest or detain individuals on suspicion of unlawful entry unless the Subspect is apprehended in the process of entering the US without inspection. Obviously. We're not right near the border I mean one who skis a little bit farther away, but I just felt like it kind of took out some of this other language But it's just an option and that's where I got it The other Changes well actually there that was it. I think oh, I chose I changed a wording at the very end Yeah, she'll not propose great just said she'll not grant I see or CBB agents access to individuals and the agency's custody So it's not a lot of changes, but this is where it comes from. So This applies To our constant. Yeah, I was to ask her it does not apply to a sheriff or The highway patrol if they're in Bethel. Nope. No, their agency was there they have their own power Yeah This one is the same thing that the state police have exactly This would be the same as state police, but not necessarily the Windsor County unless they have adopted this Clarify yeah, no, you're right. Yeah, and I was looking at like this council is made up of like I Don't know 25, you know Lieutenant governor, you know, there's a bunch of really high ranking members that are Part of it. Yeah, all different branches of the Of the Vermont State Trooper, you know, there's a there's a whole bunch of I think it Individuals in there for the Vermont Criminal Justice Training Council to do it because you can't have every different department with a different policy, I mean it would seem as though the state police would kind of Govern not You're stepping on a very fine line. Okay common sense I mean the document seems there's none here. That's all gone seem very Yeah, yeah So like as I just wanted to read it see if you had any changes obviously I didn't go through and where it says member I didn't enter town of Bethel. Yeah, we're discussing Yeah, yeah, but I just wanted to see if there was changes what you if you want to make a couple changes I had or if you don't that's fine and then I also I'm not sure where I wrote if an agency member so town about the receipts report potentially biased or hate-motivated Incident agencies shall either dispatch an officer or for the collar to the BSP. Yeah, that makes sense Not the officer in charge. We need someone outside We have done that before if we have issues we usually go to the BSP It just looks better makes sense if you have an interagency conflict and there's only two of them Then you gotta go to the BSP because you want someone it partially want to be handled properly and impartially for whoever Maybe the supposed or alleged victim to get due process right out of the gate So I think the only question I had and I briefly brought it up at the beginning of the meeting Was that there are several areas where yep that you had shortened it or I did out I did I just wanted to go on the website and you look at this document It's almost like this boy or boilerplate language with a With a statute or two. It is I just don't know like It brings you back to the like at the end of every paragraph should you have that statute or I didn't think so Or do you you know or do you have one little sentence somewhere that just says actually? I think this is what saying statute or something But this is what I think when Uski did and then they did because they kept referencing these But I'll double-check the language to see but that I think they were just they kept referencing this eight USC 1373 17 yeah, I didn't have a chance to look that up see what I'll double-check. I'll make a note Double-check that was the link. It's not a big deal me in question. I had It's not a big deal if we need to keep them in it was just I was trying to just make it a little more user-friendly unless we're done Then double-check original wording Should we add? Replacing it with a sentence Okay, where you did yeah, that's like I said, I Not alive about work to make it simple, you know, if you can say it in ten words why use 50. Yeah Yeah, and you know just Chances are we're probably never gonna have to use that paragraph in Bethel anyways, you know what I mean, right? So now maybe maybe closer to a border town. Maybe they have to have all that because it's And it's law confining in case they have to well what I read was they actually met They had the original policy just like we did and the Winooski actually reached out to the immigrant population and met with them and and Other people to try to you know figure out how to make the language a bit more User-friendly to immigrants so that they didn't they wanted to be sure that the police Yes, that's the word. Thank you. Yeah, that was there So they did have the original the same language and then they amended it to say this Yeah, I want I want even if a person is undocumented I want them to be able to feel free to obey our law And to report something if they're being harmed right nuts Absolutely, and I'm not sure how big of an issue is here It was certainly a bigger issue in Addison County because we had a lot of people coming in for you know Just doing maybe harvesting for animals and farming and different then I do know some people who own farms and they had They could not find people to work. So they actually had you know brought in people through all the proper channels, but Mostly Because without them what would you have done you couldn't find the labor Do you have any questions Lindley or comments or? All right, I just want to make sure you had volume All right, so I'll talk to Oscar about these changes and then put it on a future agenda I'm gonna get your input first Yeah, no, it seemed like a pretty speak so we have the next ones we have our we have to do use of force body cameras and Like those one. Yeah, I think there was four of them when I was Yeah The only two that stuck out for me was the body camera one and this one, but yeah use of force Huh taser No, that wasn't one of them. I mean that is one, but that's not the one I had I can't remember what it is Anyways, so we'll die figured it would be easier to do one at a time because they're lengthy and kind of dry All right town managers report So There'll be an article in the Herald about the small bridge over Stoddard Brooke So we all you know, it's it's little obviously we're gonna be installing a 10-foot section of a bridge It's basically similar to exactly to what we have there now I will say that the state has been great the Sven Scribner and Chris bump is our district four project manager And he was great. I messaged him or emailed him, you know very early on Monday morning and they've been very helpful and they Sven said, you know, it's gonna be like a Netflix charge. He said because he's like we don't it's such a small he's like we don't even this isn't even on our schedule and so Morgan they're borrowing a trailer from someone because they need a bigger than what they have to go and get the bridge Sven is coming down. He's bringing all the tools he's gonna work with them to get it installed and so which was great and Then it's gonna be business as usual be better than the bridge that was there And I did speak to Chris bum because we have a structures grant and said look I've got the water project out. I'm not sure the timing that might not start in June It might start later and I have a deadline on my structures grant would if necessary Can I get an extension and they said yes because we can't obviously crow clothes sandhill and pee vine At the same time, but we did have interesting Morgan went out and closed it, you know right away and And brought in people were actually moving the barrels Driving down pee vine and crossing Jeff Townsend's land So we finally so we end up not No, not anymore because even once they can try we put money But well, we put concrete barriers on both sides of the bridge obviously then we ended up having used concrete barriers down by Peave line park to stop people from doing that like that is private property You can't I don't know who just does that but not no more. They want someone impatient. Yeah, so that's Yep, yep, it's past that So the bond vote passed 117 yes 8 no and one blank ballot so we had our pre-bid meeting at 10 a.m. on town hall the following day and We may be able to award the bid on May 10th that depends On how long it takes all just an Elliott to get through the bids because they're due May 2nd This is currently a hundred and eighty day contract So we know it's gonna stop for the winter and then resume in the spring of 2024 What we don't know is the exact timing Somebody may you know sure we'd like someone to start in June But they may may not be able to start till but a little bit later and obviously material ordering and when we're gonna be able To get that so exact timing is unknown yet So I'm going to be away Thursday Through May 9th, so I'll be back that Wednesday on the 10th Gary Coogler Graciously has agreed to be the emergency management director because the fire chief is also away So usually if I'm Dave Dave does it, but no Dave so Gary is doing it And everybody's you know well-versed in what's going on. I also have a Couple projects I have a mowing bids out because we didn't get any applicants for the position So I have the bids out Richard since he has done that job before is Answering questions. I put his name on the bid while I'm away so if people have questions they can contact him Christian Hill project starts Wednesday, and so Chris Jarvis. It will be working with Morgan and AJ to oversee that So if you have any problems, this is the guy to call Dave So I'm away he's going to work with them to oversee that project So I've tried to the planning commission. We are through that process I'm trying to make sure that if I had any project in the works that I have somebody You know covering it. Oh, see he's already coming The boss is here. Yeah, there's several places that are have obviously some deep understructure problems Are you guys going to do any of that? So it's going to come back Some stuff. Yeah, I mean it's like two 20-foot sections that the road just I'm thinking there's a need to meet a lot more drainage in that area We did bid out 2,000 linear feet of underdrain and a bunch of gravel so once pike comes in and Does the reclaiming or the reclamation which is Wednesday, which is Wednesday, and you give it like a couple of days to see Usually when the first day or two there's gonna be moisture that's gonna come through the ground anyways So after that then we'll start to look to see where the the bad spots are at and then it's really gonna be What can we do? Well, that's reasonable. So and we have or are we And Gilman's contract he's got You know enough quantities that we can Substitute one for another when we start going through there I think I think the biggest issues that they had last time one was some of the drainage wasn't improved but to the Slacking a lot of stone base structure to the road and when you get those really heavy trucks going up down there So that's why we they have a lot of a lot more money in there this time to do Almost but six inches of gravel across the whole Road uniformly as well as a thicker pavement structure, and then we do have monies in there to do Some drainage normal drainage like excavation type drainage and we also do have some some underdrain Quantities that we put in there in case we run it to any Spring maybe truck lane is the one that's yeah And there might be some areas where where there's a problem here, and we go we Exploratory dig it and find that there's ledge there. There's nothing we do It just becomes a move to the next one, you know But we'll try to improve with the best that we can so that hopefully this time around that road will last a lot Longer than it did this time around yeah, so their plan is to Box out some of that to see what's under there or we get a clay area We might just rip it out and put some new stuff in there And we do think well And there was an interesting part because it made me think about ledge because we have a water line there and so Richard had been out and He and Aaron Perez are going back out tomorrow to look at it because I Have this real pet peeve about if we dig this up And then we do a waterline project in a few years, and I look like a buffoon because I didn't you know figure this out So I said Richard, you know we're gonna find the waterline Can I is there a place where we can you know cut put a sleeve in or put you know and Well, yes, you know the waterline runs like this and up the ditch course, and it's just it's just so now No Cuz I was like Richard and but anyway, so with it just When you're putting the new line rip out that crooked Richard I'm like can't we just cut and discontinue and he was gonna mark it for me So I can see it because he's like not really because if you get over in the ditch line Then that's where the waterline is he said I can see why they ran it where they ran it because you get out Then you're not gonna have as much material covering it But one of the things Aaron Perez is gonna do tomorrow is figure out the depth and Interestingly enough on one part of the road when he found the waterline there It's about four four and a half feet deep and then as it goes it gets deeper So it does make you wonder if there's some ledge right there So we did I'm sure there's a lot going up through there. That's for sure Yeah, so it'll be interesting to see no, it's on there. I didn't reach out to The quarry and let them know you know But I mean Irene killed that road. I'll tell you that road held up better than any road done in Bethel Well again The way we're putting the road back this time isn't technically specced for those easel loads of consistent traffic coming out of the quarry However, it's an improvement over what we had If that makes any sense so I mean we would have to do probably almost double what we're doing to to have the easel Load of everyday traffic coming on now. There's not everyday traffic coming out of the quarry like that But but Irene is what really killed that You know if we had thought about at that point we probably could have somehow gotten some monies You could have that and sandhill to done that as a result of emergency Damage to the road or something But so the other thing we looked at was when we were talking about like the next water project I'm it was like, you know, you know how people love trench patching. So I'm like, I don't please don't make me Well, then we looked at the schedule and You know, when had the state of Vermont paved by the town office and that was in the last few years Then when had they paved, you know, Main Street when had they paid their paving River Street now? So Richard Nye sat down and we did ask Chris when he was picking up his pack Hey, when did you do these because we know one of our next projects or one of the project is obviously River Street The other one is going up past South of Maine and we're like, well, we're not doing that because they were state just paved So we were talking about the next stage would be like North Main Street and out and then, you know I think there might be work at the at another at the other reservoir and trying to like what would the next water project be And then Chris had mentioned, I guess the state coming through in the next eight years will be doing Main Street so maybe You know another focus will be is what we're gonna do for a sidewalk project in Main Street Because we'd obviously want to get that done before the state of Vermont came through and paved because again We look Well, you're not sure what we're doing. I Have this brain that sometimes gets in here and sometimes it doesn't I was One night and I said we don't have much not street. Is there a Minimum sidewalk size Is there a minimum four feet, but they're moving towards five feet But five feet is the is the desire with the desire about Main Street one of the Yeah, one of the better connections Suggestions is that we only have parking on one side of the street if you're talking about Main Street, right? You know if you took the curb out and moved it over The width of the curb four inches give you you mean right on Pleasant Street though the whole street More inches of highway would make a big difference. Well, I'm not sure to be honest if there's a minimum I don't know about that with the curb. My guess is there's something out there I'd have to look but one of the interesting things that they did do that do boys and King did which I thought was super Interesting they measured between the buildings and said like this is Randolph This is Bethel this is you know, so it was really interesting but one of their suggestions is no parking on one side of the street and then all of a sudden you've got Some driving room and it makes a little you know But I I think the minimum was four feet plus the curb, but I'd have to double check the parking garage. Yeah If you're gonna do that you're gonna have to find a place to park cars Well, I'll tell you what's interesting about that is obviously part of that was what the select board already was like Which was blown, you know doing out back here where we said you guys said it was all ledge And because that obviously was part of it in a second phase, but what was interesting during their Gathering of information that do boys and King did was asking people How far are you willing to walk? To get to the market to get to babes to get to the sandwich shop Because currently, you know people there's a lot of times when the municipal parking lot is empty And people are you know looking on Main Street for parking. So that was interesting They felt that that they could we could accommodate our existing parking needs by utilizing This better the municipal parking lot and then maybe doing an addition but I mean it's all legy and Stuff so the bus so once we get the final Plan plan do boys and King is putting their final touches on it And then it looks like the steering committee wants to do some things to it. So It's broken down at a project, so we'll have to show you the whole show you the whole plan and see But you know parking is an issue, but if people are willing to walk There may be Burlington. You really got to walk. Yeah, there may be plenty of parking Are just not willing so the the minimum typical to have Let's say if you're having side Parking and sidewalks on both sides. So you have to five foot is your sidewalk minimum and Then you usually have about six inches of curb Then you have eight and eight foot parking stall 11 foot travel lane And then as you move across you you know the opposite 11 foot travel lane eight foot parking stall six inch curb five foot sidewalks so So I know like when we had milled and paved down here whatever was Seven years ago maybe They wanted us to paint the parking stalls and we're like we're not paintings because they're They're not wide enough, you know, we'll be liable because because they don't have to desire 38 feet width through there That's why you know you park. I mean everybody's parked next to the pizza place, right? Yeah Move your mirror in It's not wide enough and that's been the you know And it's not there's really no width to take from anywhere, right? I mean you're right up against the buildings there and that's why the part of the Part of the options there Lynn Lane member was to have a which wasn't Desirable but was to have parking on one side of the street Yeah, actually through there because of that width issues and that is and then you may not have enough width for parking But you may have width for a What was it? What was the lane called like a pedestrian lane or? bike lane or you know a green space lane or something. Yeah Well, they did talk about doing that like maybe having some restaurants have outdoor seating and we talked about it We're like this is downtown about you gonna want to be in a sandwich where you got a diesel truck column through I mean that didn't seem conducive for a good time But it certainly was conducive for people to have a breather And the other thing too was if the the goal too was to make the Main Street buildings handicap accessible so Or just accessible then You were gonna need some additional room on one side or on more both sides So you would definitely need to get rid of parking if you're gonna raise up You need a ramp to get these you know so that people to access almost like here's the ramp on the bottom And then it goes up to the second layer like they did in for gents So there's a few options there You know and people are in favor for in concept, but would they be once you removed a lane of? Parking, you know no So it was a sign of the street. Yeah, take the parking away because you're gonna I think it was kind of yeah It was I mean I think it was the bank side, but but yeah, it was and you know, but you could also Talked about was making handicap accessible parking or maybe like a drop zone for like the Laundromat so that if people like could unload put their laundry and then go park You know what I mean giving people that the other option too would be to something that you don't do here is so if you have three-hour parking So people can't park all day long on Main Street So that if you had business owners or employees, they can't park in front of their business They have to park in the park You don't want anybody to come to your business you park right there I know you can't get anybody to come on what that to make those things. I know but people do it So it's Currently we yeah, because I had currently we're not set up to do that because the V-trans they don't want Their the handicapped spaces I think were Needed to be What did I send to the steering committee? Yes, and they can't they have to be They can't be Parallel parking they have to be yeah, so that was part of it too and we just don't have the space for it So it would be unsafe Yeah, I had I got a hold of Rita to Rivers who sent me to be trans or she went to be trans and then she sent me back So so we actually couldn't do that unless we change Some of the to create spacing specifically for that and I think it would be like bulb outs and a couple things too Oh boy more Jarvis bull bell. Yeah, so it you know, it'll be interesting to see once we get there It can be yours Linley going for it. That's right. It when leaves bulb outs Um So, let's see the road crews gone to the four ten-hour days, so Excuse me Oh, sorry, go ahead. Linley. You want the bulb outs? Yeah, I Said they're Linley's this year. Oh Linley's now Although there were no complaints last year. We did that. So the road crews gone to four ten-hour days 6 a.m. To 4 p.m. Monday through Thursday I have a meeting tomorrow with Rita Cito of two Rivers to talk about the next step in our bike ped grant and then she's meeting with Morgan and AJ to we have a grants and age ditching project that we're going to do on Macintosh That is they feel that that's a worst part of the road of the Bethel roads for like spring and mud season so they do want to use some of the ARPA money to Do a section of that so they're going to work with Rita to do a scoping and getting pricing so they have a grant for a section of it and then You know going to look at doing some more work up there as well A few years ago now, but I know we did some we did a bunch of culverts up there and and Yeah, you know, it's like Morgan said it was never built properly. So you're kind of behind the eight ball. So Understand that So Cecil Working with the cemetery, you know is working with some contractor to have some trees taken down at Cherry Hill and Gilead and As I said stuff is out for bid the other thing was I had We got our phone call today. So the international is Ready for pick up. Yes for plowing Yeah for everything sounds about right and it is I know I had assumed the two trucks would come at same day So they we have a bill for seventeen thousand three hundred and six dollars That we have to pay before obviously they're gonna release the truck The long story short was I spoke to the gentleman today Parker up there. He was very helpful they ended up putting in a new motor a long block and Because it and they had to make an insurance claim because when we took the truck up It was we believed it was a cracked head. So they went up. They sent it out They they had it looked at was reinstalled. They ran it. They had their whole list of everything that they did We drove it back No problems down the interstate and then the day or two later went to use it overheated So we had a flat bedded back there and this that time when they got through it the block was cracked so He said to me on the phone today. He said look We don't know if we missed it when it first came in if it came with the block cracked We don't know if we cracked it or if when you know, he's like there's too many ifs here So they made an insurance claim So I talked to Morgan about it today, and he said we have a $17,000 bill and he's like we have to pay that that was work that they legitimately did and He said, you know, it could have been worse It could have been that we paid that bill and then they said that the block cracked on us We would have been paying in a $25,000 on top of that so Unfortunately, it looks like the 20,000 at ARPA that we had we put into the capital equipment fund just found a home So I guess I some confusion So originally Originally when the truck went north. Yep, we had some work done to it. Yep this work. Yep And the bill was like 20 something thousand there's some stuff that they did not so are you saying that the 17s on top of the 20 something thousand or this is So the 20,000 went away and now it's 17. Yes. Okay. I was just yeah, I'm thinking long We already paid in 20 grand 17 like we didn't pay anything because okay, we weren't sure so we never paid the first bill. No, okay And actually it was more than that wasn't it close to 30 or something. Okay? Was yeah, AJ AJ came in the next day and went to Pam and said Pulled the bill. Don't pay that because it's going back and we flatbed it back They did say originally they were gonna charge us a part of the towing which they didn't and so this is the bill I called him today and spoke to him about it and and he admitted he's like we just don't know So we made an insurance claim. So I asked so Morgan's like we have to look at it the case of They we could have bought a new motor on top of spending the 17,000 and he's like so He said 25 I asked the gentleman today, I said how much was the long block he said 20 He said look any parts part of it He said we didn't take from your existing truck and move over and about five He said it'd be about five thousand in labor, but yeah, there was some so the original bill This is now our bill. So I was like, okay, it's Not pretty Reasonable considering yeah, yeah started and the fact is we We don't know and he admitted the same thing and so he made the claim so that was That's not the truck that we were trading. Oh, right. No, that's the truck We were trading is the one that had the computer issues. Yes that thing. It's just sitting So the freight liner is still here I had said we'd get the international the Western star on the same day That's like this is and do we have an ETA on the new truck coming? May it has been different months, but it is okay. Have you heard? So I was originally I think it was like January that was February and but was interesting enough was AJ and Morgan had been working To get estimates to sit down. I told him what Chris had said at one of the meetings I'm like look we need to go through the equipment schedule again because in the last two years Equipment prices have gone through the roof. So we know our our capital equipment schedule isn't is off So they've been making phone calls and AJ is like wow You know some of the pricing but what is interesting is we were a rid We were told a few months ago that we needed to order truck could be two years out when I said Three because look how long it's taken us to get this one Now they're saying actually that it's only gonna be like 18 months two years or 18 months or so that it's the faster turnaround But I'm not sure it's interesting because some things are just really hard to to find so But if we order them, we don't have to accept it. We could pass when it got here, but oh, yeah If it's 18 months, you know someone take that truck Exactly, so when the equipment committee meets Morgan and AJ are working on Updating with the current pricing The equipment schedule moving it around more practical They're having oil samples done on the loader and the excavator to see what's going on there and as well as coming up with You know make I asked them to make a full list of everything that was wrong with the equipment that we had Because then when the equipment committee sits down and they're also can you know go through and check everything that we're you know coming up with a better Better situation because at some point I figured these would be down payments We're not going to be able to buy a loader a greater You know at some point there may be a loan in the future But and some of it may just be down payments and then it's less of a loan But so I'm really anxious for that meeting. I'm hoping to do it in may early june and then we'll have a really Comprehensive plan for the slack board with some better numbers, but the pricing AJ was like wow It's just gone Just gone crazy. I think some of the pricing so Anyway, so we will be needed to take that money obviously out of a capital equipment fund. So What else green up is saturday may 6th some And there's bags at the town office if you are interested um picking some up and there'll be some but he at the park as well That is it slack board meeting minutes from the 10th They still have the word agenda in the I don't catch that Yeah, I don't catch it when you said it over. You know honestly, I don't even think I look I just like it's the right date All right, I'll draw a line Hang on I gotta find them Do we need a motion to accept the um Teresa's report Molly, okay down man. Do you want no, okay, so you just take that for granted Take it for granted. It's called it's called Possible Yeah, could you read this better dave? I tried to light in the draft. Yep color much better. All right good Is there anything else in there? Or is that it? Yeah, I just wanted to know if there's any other mistakes So just need a motion to approve as amended So moved Second, all in favor All right All right And other communications the energy committee had something in there conservation and Brett committee, I believe Any other business to come before the board Just a reminder that the select board meeting the next one is monday may 15th in lieu of the monday may 8th So we'll do two back to back And again, I appreciate you doing that since i'm going to be on vacation be easier this way Okay All righty, if there's anything there's nothing in the chat All right, just before we close just to make sure you don't get any credit for this early clothes I actually saw it. I was like boy, Dave Eddie's gonna be so happy I'm actually one of the reasons I added the fair and impartial Because I'm like we actually have time because some of our agendas and like I've had those for a couple months And I haven't dared to add them because I'm like, we're gonna be here all night So, oh the other thing I should say is that Um, our attorney the town's attorney is working with brian's attorney to set up an appointment for Chris and I and our attorney david rue to meet with him and his attorney Um, we're hoping to do that in may So we gave them the parameters of time frames. We're just waiting to hear about it Dates are gonna run by you. I know so I haven't heard anything from davia and um We had given him some dates and basically said some time between nine and noon. So, um, Obviously open it doesn't take the whole night to noon, but just that's a parameter We couldn't we couldn't do after moons. So, um, as soon as that obviously we can make any decisions But we will come back and inform you and talk to you about it. So did we set a date? I What Whatever we were going to do on Not gonna do I have contacted. Um, I reached out to the grant Tour and asked I just said there's too many conflicts right now. We have possible pending issues What happens and I postponed the grant I can take it the same project in october Which would be already awarded to the same people or we can I can pass on it completely And we could do some of the work grading clean out under the digits on the opposite side of the road And there is an exemption in the municipal roads general permit MRGP that if we had a conflict with landowner That there is an exemption that's saying that we do not have to do that hydrologically connected segment if there was an issue So that's hopefully not the case but with The situation we're in currently it didn't seem like it would be an effective or Possibly successful project if one of the participants was opposed now so the Um, I haven't been up this spring. I went up last fall up gillian road And I mean andrew was going to need that road soon The gillian portion that we're talking about working. Yeah. Yeah, we talked to him and he told us that he would He told us that he would let us know when it kind of dried out so that we could get up there So we could be in there before kinsley. I've already talked about morgan with it and went through it with him and so That was so that's on morgan's radar and andrew said he'd let us know when it dried out up there Is it still pretty wet? um So a few more weeks. Yeah, so we're we're after after this weekend I Uh moving some stumps from my property to my brother's property Did they just pop right out of the car? No, they didn't Uh told the truck driver just take it up here and go out this road and go across the top of the field. It's always dry Dave i'm stuck Oh boy Matt I drove up there. I drove up there friday with my tractor at least 10 000 pounds didn't make a mark He goes up there with a 8 000 pound truck and Well, it's funny because it's so dry. It's not up there. But yeah That's pretty waterlogged now Yeah, so andrew said he'd let us know when it you know when it dried out a little bit up there and um And morgan was fully briefed on the project and knows what needs to happen, so It was fine So no, so we're gonna pass on that. We passed on that regular brand for now. Oh boy It just seemed like the right thing to do. I think it was gonna be I'm just kind of looking for that for that chapter to I know be close But yeah, so but we doesn't mean we can't redo it I can't reapply in october once some things have been sorted out with the rest of railroad All right Anything else to come before the board Do we need to do anything about the planning commission? Setting that up with a select board or that'll be another time we're gonna have to do that and um It said in the rules right here. I think yeah Yeah, that we that's a yeah that the select board is kind of funny The select board can't warn the hearing less than 15 days after they got it and they're just basically getting it So on our 15th meeting we'll warn the public hearing for june 12. So it's one of those I printed it out putting it because it's just weird I'm like we were thinking we could just boom boom No can do but I am going to email it to the I gave denisa hard coffee chrystal hard coffee I will email the rest of you the most recent zoning. I also it's going to look like this It's going to have the markup version of april 20th 2023 And you'll be able to see we made a few changes at the pc the other night But the nice thing is the document's colored so you can see where we have made any changes if it's all regular Then we didn't touch it so I did just get tonight before I came a quote from Two rivers to update our town plan And it's $11,000 and we don't have a municipal planning grant So the last time we did it we did have a planning grant, but we don't now So that may be something that we Use some of the contracted services money for out of july budget because we're going to start in september Yes, we'll have to Rick Benson are going to meet when I get back from vacation and go through their estimate and see if there's anything that We could do on the pc to alleviate some of the Cost But it's difficult because they know all the state statutes They review all that and so it's a little bit easier for them And also to have them manage the document because as denise can attest part way through this I had to manage the rezoning document. I I'm just I can't do that. It's too much So You know we need to move forward with update And 11,000 seems like a lot but when you look at the breakdown, it's a lot of work on their end So but rick and I'll remove that review in may and I'll have more information for you then But that process won't start until september the planning commission is going to take the summer So they'll come to your um public hearing in june, but We're just we're not going to meet for a little bit. So it's been kind of a process To get through this morning rick. So anyways, so I will email the rest of the select board the most updated version Yeah they've selected a date for the celebration of life for Davis and victoria Yep, we received a request today if we would share it on our website and which we Said absolutely we would do we did that for certainly for tim mills and we did that for um, carl Um, so yeah, so they did ask that. So where is that going to be? I think it's going to be here. I wasn't sure kelly didn't say she was asked if we could share their celebration of life Announcement on the website. It's absolutely. So And then um Jean came in so window dressers Wants to use the town hall for a period of time in november So we're gonna reschedule. We will move our select board meeting one night So we could either maybe do it at the fire department if they're not meeting it might be a good opportunity to go to another building We could do it at the town office. So one meeting in november. We will do On location. So we'll do someplace different. What was that? November nine Yeah nine to sixteen. Yeah. So one of the select board meetings. So if the fire department doesn't have a They're meeting that and it might be a good time to do it there Um, you know, this is hard to visit other buildings. I think you know, maybe even one time We could do it at the rec area just to kind of You know, if you don't ever have the time to walk through these things So something think about but we'll cross that bridge and we get to a bully They're probably doing the town office of the fire department. So All right, anything else? Move to adjourn second