 Only known like year. That's legends for LA, but it ain't now. Maybe now, but you talking about back in the 90s and shit? Yeah. Everybody was just blowing up. Everybody was cracking. I mean, even I feel like the smallest groups was like in LA, was like even like the twins. Yeah, I don't know who that is. The twins is they part of LA from Long Beach. So Long Beach, the G-Fung era had obviously the Warren J. Nate dog, Snoop. And then you had Dog Pound, you know what I'm saying? After that, you would have like, remember the LBC crew? Somebody, somewhere, best be wherever, my crew. I feel like I know that. Yeah. That's a group of niggas. You got the east side of us, you know what I'm saying? You got Duff Shack. Duff Shack would be LA Legends. OK. Duff Shack, Summer Time in the LBC. That's all I'm saying. That was the biggest record period. So you classed 2002. OK, yeah. But y'all wouldn't consider them LA Legends, because y'all LA Legends. Well, they're part of the legends. They're not LA Legends, they're part of the niggas. They ain't walking around like, oh, shit, that's the twins. But that song is so legendary. That song is all. Duff Shack is from LA. You might not know who that is, but that should play on the East Coast, so they know what that is. You're going to, right, if Long Beach had a, now Long Beach is the city alone has enough savages niggas, artists, they could do a whole concert together, that's led by Snoop. And one thing I peeped, that was like, damn, that's crazy. Like me being in LA, it's like, so Long Beach is y'all San Jose. It's like when you talk to people from LA and like on the other side, like LA, they be like, I don't go to Long Beach. I don't know shit about Long Beach. The only thing, when it comes to the gang shit, Long Beach is respected for sure. And the music obviously can Snoop. You know what I'm saying? Because Snoop is the ambassador of Southern California, really, really, Dray and Snoop, Dray from Compton and so on. So Long Beach, San Jose, I lived up there for nine years, you know what I'm saying? I went to Berkeley, I went to Cal, you know what I'm saying? So I, it's like my second home. I got a lot of family homies up there and shit. So San Jose to us was like, let's drive 45 minutes to San Jose, fuck with the bras on the canvas. But that's all we're going to. But you don't think LA niggas look at Long Beach like that? No, no, no, not that bad. Not that bad. Niggas ain't going to Long Beach, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, niggas ain't. Oh, you do? Niggas, Long Beach got hoes, niggas. It got bitches. But also, it's a little getaway. But you, Long Beach, I ain't never feel unsafe in San Jose. Shit, you got San Jose fucked up. Okay. Them niggas be tripping out there. Okay. EPA, I know EPA is different. EPA is different, he's different. But San Jose got a lot of me goes out there. Okay. Let's keep it in some moments. In some moments. Oh, yeah, I get that. You know what I'm saying? But Long Beach is like that, too. Long Beach, so Long Beach is diverse, right? Yeah, but it's niggas, it's a gang of some moments. It's a gang of fucking Asians, too. But it's niggas, and it's all Crips. That's what I'm saying? That's all Crips. Ain't that something? Maybe, I feel because you're from there and you know, I've been up there, too. But I know a lot about the Bay, right? I lived up there for years. But I never kicked in the San Jose outside of going to the ambassador and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? I don't even know what that is. Yeah, nigga, you, yeah. Ambassador Lance. Ambassador E-40 shit, nigga. Now, don't get it twisted, E-40. Over there in San Jose, in that club, you getting beat up. You know what I'm saying? If it get out of hand, nigga. Oh, the system is talking about that. You can get stomped on like that, so. A lot of niggas traveled over there and then for San Jose, it was a place for niggas. That's from San Jose to really kind of like go fuck with it, you know, and shit like that. Like have that club, you know what I mean? Like how we'll have a club in the city are kind of clubbing an O, you know what I mean? But like, I don't know clubs like that for real. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, man? Nah, Oakland. Oakland. You can't keep a club past a year and a half, nigga. Yeah, that's right. But nah, nigga, I didn't been to all of them, bro. You tell it right now, though. I didn't been to, that's the only place to party, bro. Like, nigga. What? Man, the city, bullshit is here. Are you gonna drive that 45 minutes to San Jose? You better drive your ass to San Jose, then. Nah, you better stay there, too. Nah, nigga, hey, that's cause you 28, you 28, you say? You better get to a hotel. You 29, 28? 29. 29, damn, nigga, you young, bro. I was up here, nigga. But tell it, if you're kind of like front of bay, if you're not front of bay, you trying to go party is kind of like sketchy. I gotta know where to go. It would be hella fun for people that's not front of bay. I think it's bunk if you front of bay, cause you gon' know everybody. But it's, I know, and that's the fun part about it, but if you don't know nobody, it's like you got that dark cloud that you think about Oakland, it's kind of sketchy. It's like, hold on, what's really going on? You don't feel safe. No, if you from, if you from there, I feel like if you from the Bay area, you know too much about Oakland to the point you can't even enjoy yourself. I feel this, I feel in the Bay, nigga, if you tripping, it's gonna be a problem. I ain't never had a problem in the Bay, all right? I've been living up there for years, you know what I'm saying? See, yeah, we finna talk about it, man. Yeah, nigga. We, y'all, we, all right, man, check it out, man, look, what's happening? It's your boy, Louis. Oh, we going? Yeah, we finna start right now. Hold on, man, it's your boy, Louis Bell. It's the Callie Kickback, you understand me? I got my boy, Jamal True Love. How you feeling, man? Aw, man, I'm back kicking it, man. Just chilling, man. You know, I got my showtown. It's hot outside. It is hot enough for that. You understand me? We got a special guest. I said, what my shorts? In this thing, you understand me? LA's on, you know what I'm talking about? It's cracking. Y'all give a big round of applause. You didn't know, you didn't see them. I'm bringing them up like he finna perform on stage. Ah, how y'all doing tonight? Everybody here, the ladies look good as shit. What's up, man? I think y'all start clapping right now. Y'all give it up for Louis Bell, y'all give it up for Louis Bell. Give it up for the one and only big job, man. It's cracking, man. To the max. We gotta get it out of there. Love, man, love, love. Yeah, well known all through the internet. You got a million subscribers. Man, it's a blessing, bro. It's a blessing, man. Yeah, the humble shit. Million subscribers on YouTube, man. Yeah, man. Self-made, man. Self-made. Appreciate it, appreciate it. That's, that's, man. It's so hard to get a million subscribers on YouTube. How long you been putting videos up? Officially, like on a weekly basis, 2017, about six years. Six years straight on a weekly basis? On a weekly basis. I told myself, man, I was inconsistent for years. I told myself, I gotta keep, I'ma do this shit every week and put as many videos as I can up a week until something happen. All right, so you said since 2017? Yeah. So consistent. Consistent, yeah. So when did it start to be phoned in? When you wasn't being consistent? Man, I had a camera, nigga, fresh me here in college. Okay. And I was shooting shit, shooting a little funny shit before YouTube ever existed. There wasn't no Vine, there was none of that shit. Before YouTube existed? Yeah, nigga, he can't even imagine life without YouTube. 1999? No, yeah, you smart, nigga. Yes, nigga. I know my shit. I see you, I graduated, man, from high school Yeah, bro, and I went up to school and I had a camera. My mom bought me a camera for my 18th birthday. Yeah, and she knew I wanted to study film in college. So she bought me a little camcorder, a little Sony camcorder. And that was the only thing I wanted. I got that, some tapes and some batteries, nigga. I'm on there, yeah. That's how you know me in serious when he wants some technology. Right. You feel me? I know I was serious about coming, when I bought a laptop. Yeah, yeah. You feel, I didn't change my life officially. I bought a laptop. Yes. Niggas used to call it a nerf having a laptop. This scratch. This nigga. This nigga. That's so true. Like, I really didn't get into like technology until nigga, MySpace, bro. Because anytime before it was, it was like boosy. Like, oh, yeah, you know how to type. Black planet for me, nigga. Black planet, too. Black planet, yeah. Black planet. Here's nigga, don't know nothing about that. He's like, nah, nigga, I don't know about Instagram, nigga. No, I'm on MySpace, nigga. I'm a top six, yeah. Top six. Tom and that bitch, nigga. Tom and I'm broad in my top, you feel me? Yeah. You put your little baddest little shit that you got in your little, your little crew and put them up at the top, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I'm wondering, I'm that air. Yeah. I thought I was gonna blow up and music on MySpace. Like, look at my music on there. You know, I get my followers, you know, shit like that. But I mean, I think maybe a little before that, before it was MySpace, it was like, first social media, the party line. Yeah, party line. Party line, bro. I used to have a nigga be sneaking on the phone. Sneaking on the phone. The Rotary, nigga bears out the Rotary, nigga, I'm like calling it in, nigga. Trying to get in the road. Hey, did you go to like, did you go to pay phones and get the codes? What the hell, yeah. Nigga, we get like a gang of codes. Because if you doing this shit for free, it's only about what, half an hour or hour? Yeah, it was a half an hour. A half an hour of time to call and chat with chicks and shit like that. So we would go to different, all the homies had their phone, this is a Louis house, nigga, we gon' get a call from his line, let's go to your house, get a call from your line, then we use them all up, now we going to pay phones and shit. And getting codes from their lines, nigga. For real? Y'all got any wild party line stories? Hell yeah, nigga. What's the wildest thing that ever happened? You ever met up with a girl from the party line? Of course. Yes. Of course. Family parties and everything. Nigga, parties, A, but be careful. Be careful. Depending on where you from. Nigga, you can try to set up. The niggas are beefing on there too. The same way niggas is on social media now, like Instagram, beefing and shit like that, same thing in there. You used to go into this, like into this chat, you know what I mean? Yeah, I'll never, I'll never. Any niggas in here, nigga, fuck y'all. Yeah, I was hell little, though. Niggas giving addresses and all that shit. Pull up, nigga. Yeah. Cause I was acting like I was grown on the party line. Nigga, I had to be 10. Yeah. I'm calling, I was holding on nigga too. Cause I thought it was like a game. I really wasn't on there trying to really knock some and meet up with somebody. Cause I know I'm a kid. Oh yeah. But I knew I'm just real. People really talking on there. Hey, chicks will give you the address. Pull up. For real, real. Okay, you pull up. Gang of niggas and shit. I ain't say, oh, y'all can come in here. Yeah. All right, sit on this one and sit back. Bro, we better go up in the house. You got a party line story? Yeah, they got a few of them. What's your widest party line? Widest, some jack shit. Yeah, a chick had to drive up there, man. And we in the car. I'ma come out and get y'all. Y'all wait at the gate. The little punch gate to get buzzed in. It's like a little complex where you got this gate to open up once you get buzzed in. So we had the gate waiting and me and my niggas. And the gate to open. So we punched the gate and we don't have no cell phones. No, no, my homeboy had a cell phone. So we got one cell phone and he's shit about to die. But hey man, we outside, what's up? No, I'm sorry. His shit did die. His shit died. So we got to run the 7-11 up the street just to call it from the pay phone again. We rolled the door, we rolled up at the door. At the gate, you didn't come up, what's up? Come get us. All right, I'ma come get y'all. Let's go back to the gate and wait. As we pulling up, we see niggas in the bushes. Waiting, like getting back in position. What? Like she must have been like, are they coming back? They coming back. I said, oh, nah, nigga. You tell the full story, you broke out running. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, what happened? But I'm saying now, we pulled up. We seen it. And if you call it, it'd be seen in me. Who's the nigga that you got outside? Should we have another nigga outside? And we hear niggas in the background talking, whispering and shit. I said, we say, all right, man. I said, nah, we're gonna come back tomorrow. Ain't no tomorrow, I ain't gonna be here tomorrow. It is where you live, nah, this is where my homegirls stay. I fuck all that, nigga. Fuck y'all who, nigga? We hear, when they knew it was a bunk mission, it wasn't gonna happen, they wasn't gonna be able to jack us, now they start banging on nigga. Fuck y'all. Yeah, because they listening. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we saw these niggas hop in the biz like three niggas. Damn. Hop in these niggas. And it was your girl? Nah, this is the chick from the party line. Yeah, this is the yo girl from the party line. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hell yeah, yup. Yup. Damn. And the thing is, this is the technology. So this is back in 2001 and two and shit like that. Yeah. And what no, you can't just send a picture and shit. So we don't even know what this girl looked like. Right? Damn. Yeah, so you pull up on the female, you don't even know how she look. You just go off the voice, nigga. She's sounding from her description, nigga. And then this is niggas, we ain't got shit going on, nigga. We about to find out. She busted nigga, we gonna dip nigga. She look just enough, good enough nigga, we might slot. Yeah. She look fuckable. Right, right, right, right. That's the part me and don't talk about. Yeah. Keep it a hundred. She sounded fuckable. Yeah, yeah. Her voice sounded fuckable. And you got, I guess me. Yeah, yeah, I see what she's doing. I see what she's talking about. She ain't not made any shit, you know what I mean? Aye, aye, aye. We talking about when a nigga, when the club is over, nigga, and the girl that you got from the club, the number you got from the club, she answered the phone now. Now you're going through your shit, trying to figure out what the fuck is going on. Who can I call? That's what you, a nigga fucking hit the party line. That's the last resort. That's the last resort. Yeah, last resort. So yeah, that's Instagram now. Last resort. That's Instagram. Then we're going to the own little chat where ain't nobody at on some shit. Going to the chat room, you know, like chat room 29. Yeah. Aye, aye, popping chat room 29. Yeah. I'll let you real quick. Okay, boom, boom. Hello. All in there. Yeah. Another suck ass nigga. Come try to slide through. What's up? What's up with you though? Yeah. You see what's going on, my nigga? Yeah, nigga. Like, nigga start side busting. Damn, nigga, when a chick do that shit in your time out to run out. Aye, aye, aye, aye. Give me your line. Let me call you outside the chat room and shit. This shit, my men's about to be done. Let me call you. I'll give you my name. If a chick is serious, you give me your number outside of that shit, but yeah. Damn, off of conversation. Yeah. That's when you just had to have strength. Man, you got to be quick with it too. It was your description. This shit, yo, what's up, it's y'all. I'm saying I'm 6'3, blah, blah, blah, blah. They probably thought you was lying. I'm 6'6, something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a little short life skin, nigga told me that the last call I had. Hilarious, nigga. Yeah, nigga, I've been catfished too. You've been catfished? Oh, man. Yeah, yeah. Party line, I had you fucked up too though. Oh, for sure. Party line? Party line, cause you can't see him. Yeah, yeah. You guys say it's all over boys. So a nigga said he was big job? No, no, no. I wasn't a catfished. A chick said she was big job. Oh, she was big job. Yeah, yeah. I was gonna find out she was not. How you doing? She was a filter. Yeah. She was a filter, that was filter. Oh, this is, you don't look as good as you look. Or, nigga, I didn't fuck around and met a chick online on Black Planet back, no, on MySpace, back in the day. And it was a twin, nigga. Her twin sister. Somehow I'm in the car kissing with a twin sister and shit. She sent her sister who didn't, I wasn't talking to her, but she was a twin. But I guess, they look good. They both look good. But she a little thicker, got a little heavier. Sweat. So she was sending me, no, no, no, no. She was a thick chick that she was self-conscious. She sent me the picture of her sister, her twin sister. Yeah. Oh. That little sister really looked like that. Yeah, because let's say she's 15 pounds heavier than her actual twin sister. They used to be the same size. But she had a baby and got pregnant and got bigger and shit. So her sister was supposed to make sure I was who I was. Her sister went all the way through with it, nigga. I just smashed. But then I'm playing with her, I'm kissing her and all that shit. Yeah, and then she get back to the rock. I can't believe you would do that. What you mean? That was my sister. That wasn't even me. I was just trying to check to see if you was. I said, well, how would I know that? Dummy? Yeah, you check your sister. Your sister, she doesn't want to betray you. Yeah, she betrayed my mamas. Because I fucked both of you. Yeah, you're saying it. And then I met her again at the mall. Skit too. Nigga, I know. That's how you come up with shit too. I was gonna say it, yeah. Hey, I'll let you get to the question if you want, if that's what y'all want to do. But yeah, we get to it. No, no, we can chat. That's the Kelly Keek bag, man. It's the imaginary, man. We can talk about party lines. Everything, nigga. All that, nigga. But yeah, credit, that would have been a great skit. But to that, how do you come up with your skits and stuff like that? You come up with a various of things, yeah. Like this? For example, most of my shit is the shit I experienced. Or I was involved in. A homie experience, you know, some shit like that. Like even with the Tiberius shit, like I'm a hood nigga, but I ain't a street nigga. You know what I'm saying? I know street niggas. I ain't a gangbanger, nothing like that. But I know what Tiberius. I know a few of them niggas. I'm sure everybody, y'all niggas from the school. That's Sonny Boe. That's Sonny Boe. Like a nigga that's gonna buy a brown girl. Fuck nigga. And nigga ain't just had a job since Job Corps. You know what I'm saying? But he'll do anything. Nigga, you got a little bread, nigga. Nigga, give me your address, nigga. In the picture, bro. I'll let that nigga run real quick. You know what I'm saying? That's what Tiberius is, that character I got. Or that I'm coming to shit when the nigga's overbearing. He got a girl that she don't let the nigga do nothing by itself. Anywhere he goes, she coming to. Nigga, see, real clingy ass girlfriend. That ain't my swag, but I know niggas like that. Even when I came up with that first, that those series of sketches, niggas like, damn, you talk about me. My niggas fucked up. They laughing. But yeah, nigga, I'm making a joke out of that shit. So it's a lot of times either I went through it or some of my niggas did, you know what I mean? So when you coming up with your sketches, are you writing them out? Are you kind of freestyling in the context of that? Nigga, yo, shit looks written. I used to write everything. I started writing. So basically from 2017 to now, I just, you know. This concept. Over the years, I just, but it's who you shoot with, the actor that you shoot with. You know, I could direct on the spot. So right now, if we doing the sketch, we got cameras right here. I could blow your heart. Jamar? Jamar. Jamar, my bad, Jamar, excuse me. Jamar and Lewis, are we sketching? Nigga, your niggas brothers, I come over here. I'm the third roommate, nigga. I'm fucking up everything. Y'all got two bras coming over to the crib, but it's the three of us. Y'all got to find a way to get me out the motherfucking picture for the two bras, you know what I'm saying? So I'm telling y'all niggas right now, what that is, I mean, you've been shooting for three years. I've been shooting with you for four. You know what I'm saying? So I say action. Y'all kind of know. We just don't know. Yeah, but a lot of times niggas can't ad-lib and stay within the parameters of a real, understanding of a dialogue. Niggas, everybody can't be that funny. Everything in the punchline, you know what I'm saying? A lot of comedians too. All my niggas love my niggas. Before I used to say niggas, don't be, your character ain't funny yet. You know what I'm saying? You can't come in. Oh, nigga! Yeah! What's up, nigga? Nah. You gotta be a little serious. You gotta be serious. You gotta be serious. The funny- You walked in the house right, man. Yeah. What really happened is, the girls are downstairs. They're trying to get me off the couch so y'all can get the girls from the couch. So now, nigga, hey, bro, hey, my name Malcolm. Hey, Malcolm, nigga, hey, you trying to eat? Nigga, yo, yo, I'm trying to eat. What's she going to eat? Popeyes real quick. Nah, nigga, I don't like Popeyes. Nigga, I like churches. Nigga, what's she going to church? But the church is closed. Nigga! And eventually this thing like, hey, get the fuck up out! Nigga, we got some bronze coming through. So the sketch should be, so we gotta find a way how to get the story to going. I'm saying, you on the phone with the girl in the other room, and then me and you playing the game. You come in and you go in the kitchen, and this thing is coming there with you. And now you, hey, bro, get to think about Malcolm out the room, nigga. He gonna fuck it up for all of us. There's two bras coming, there's three of us. We call that cock blocking. Yeah. Oh, moms, they call that shit cock blocking in LA? Yeah. Yeah. Was that a universal? Well, yeah, cock blocking. You talking about getting me out the way? Yeah, like when you're trying to hit somebody in the way. Nah. You with a female, your partner just laying around. Yeah, and that's such a universal. Well, you already know. Yeah, Malcolm is a nigga that is gonna say some wild shit. Damn, you go, hey, your ass fat as hell. You know what I'm saying? He's the nigga that's always gonna fuck up the groove. Yeah, like, hold on, man, look at you taking the time. Because sometimes it depends on how you... That used to be me. Really? Oh, yeah, for sure. Oh, you jumping the gun. So as we get to the room, what we on? Who's shaking ass? But she's me. Damn, I thought we was gonna watch some fresh hour. Yeah, no, we ain't here to watch more. And that's just so y'all just can't hear that voice. That's when the girls come in the room, and I'm still sitting right here. And that's what, I don't know what's up. What we on? What we doing? And the girls come out, what you mean? I thought you were selling, like, yo, Jamal, I thought we was gonna watch fresh hour. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, we was. I mean, you're my Malcolm. Get the fuck up out of here. No, I'm saying, nigga, I like fresh hour too. Nigga, smokey, my favorite nigga. Move, leave. Now I don't get the hint. So that's the whole schedule with this thing of Malcolm fucking up the whole vibe. Wow, that's... I can direct that shit as we go. You know what I mean? So when it was... Oh, but it took me a long time to get that way though. Yeah. Yeah, to create that flow. Hey, what's up with the issue, boy, Lewis Bell? This episode is sponsored by Hot Roller. Y'all go tap in, follow the Instagram page. They black on, ran by a black woman. So y'all tap in right now, cannabis delivery, all type, I ain't gonna get in detail. Y'all just follow, but I love everybody. Thank you so much. I'll see y'all. So, like, do you do, you be doing, like, actions and cuts and, like, edits and shit like that? Like, damn, that was good, but then we got to run it again and hopefully get this angle this way. Hell, yeah. It ain't just, you got to go out at this one go. It's like, action cut. Nah, that's the thing. And also, when you ad-lib, you got to ad-lib again and again and again, it's that shit. So if you come, if I'm saying, I make a joke, blah, blah, blah, blah, but the camera's on you, when the camera's on me, I got to say the same exact thing. A lot of niggas be saying something different. No, let me just flow on my shit. I'm a comedian. Let me just ad-lib. You say we off the dome, right? Yeah, you off the dome, but once you say it, it got to stay. Yeah. You got to sound like a script. It's the ad-lib, but you write the script as you go. Exactly. If that's the script, then you got to keep saying it. Because we got to get his coverage, we got to get your coverage and get my coverage and you got to say the same shit on all of our coverage. So whatever you ad-lib and say, you got to keep remembering that shit. Exactly. And say it again and again and again. That's all what the director is supposed to, I'm supposed to keep you up. Remember, you got to say that again. Oh, you're my bad, yeah, say this. The same thing you said five minutes ago when the camera was on you, you got to say the same thing for him and then for me. Then so, and you started doing these sketches really consistently in 2017. I've been doing sketches since 99, since high school. 99, what inspired you? Nigga, Martin? Martin? Man. Straight up. I'm going to keep it hunting. Watching Martin, watching the King Navy Wans, the Wans brothers, watching Hollywood Shuffle, Mo Money, Don't Be a Menace, you know what I'm saying? And your big ass is like, I'm finna do that. I'm not going to do that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Football was first. Football was like football and film. Oh, you play football? I play full-lacal. Football like Cal, yeah. Cal Berkeley? Yeah, yeah. You lived in the Bay nine years. Yeah, nine years, man. Oh, okay. The Bay like a second home. Yee! Yee, yee, yee, yee, yee. Pop your motherfucking eyes. Oh boy, oh boy, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they got a little Bay, bro. When did you go to Cal then, if you from LA? To get out to get away, my nigga. I lived down the street from SC. I lived on 43rd Place in Broadway. And you can take, you can get to SC probably in 15, that's in that 10 minutes. But that's right there. And this being, I didn't want to be, so I want to be far enough to where my parents can't just pull up on me, but close enough to where I can just get back in a few hours, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You can fly back for an hour. All right, I'll have you back at the crib. Yeah, people from out of state think the Bay and LA like next to the state. The Bay and LA is like, it's all Cali. It's all love, but it's a different state, bro. That's the Bay. It was a culture shock moving up to the Bay. Yeah. I think if you don't know California, they think that the Bay and LA is the same with Crips and Bloods and all that shit. I'll say one thing about the Bay. Right. I'll say one thing about the Bay. The Bay is the only area in California that don't have Crips and Bloods. Nope. Yeah, y'all wasn't having that shit. We don't bang, man. We bang the bitch, man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, cause you got, cause you got sad. Yeah, we bang the block and we bang the culture. Turf hogs and shit? Yeah. I think that's one thing like, you know, they got a lot of culture up there. And you didn't know that until you went up there? Nah, I didn't know shit about the Bay until I went on my recruiting trip up there. Wow. I knew, I knew about Too Short, E40. I knew about the music, of course, but I didn't know, I thought E40 was from Oakland. Dang. I didn't know nothing about Vallejo. Even when he said like Valley Joe and all that shit, I didn't know what he was talking about. I'm thinking that's the slain for some other shit. But when I went up there, I said, oh, they got Richmond, they got, they got, well, I knew about Oakland and San Francisco. I didn't know about Richmond, California. You didn't know about the Bay area. Yeah. San Jose, Fairfield, Vallejo. Yeah. So, and I didn't know how far a sack was. To me, sack was a sack of Oakland, the same shit. Not at all. I found out fast, I found out fast. Oh, no, no, no, that's Northern California nigga. This the Bay, bro. This the, yeah, you wanna nigga. So, yeah, I learned fast and how y'all talk. Nigga, I ain't never seen somebody niggas in the summertime wearing P-coats, my nigga. I said, goddamn nigga. Hey, bro, I've never seen somebody gangsta niggas dance to. We're two step niggas, niggas be out here seawalking, be walking and shit. I'm a two step, you know what I'm saying? But like, niggas in the Bay, y'all be dancing. You think Bay area niggas dance more than LA niggas? Nah, nigga, I'm talking about back, I'm talking about 20 years ago. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, y'all be, y'all was seawalking. I said, no, I said the seawalk, but it's like, I'm talking about, that's gangsta shit, you know what I'm saying? We was gangsta, gangsta. I know so, I was gangsta, gangsta was really gangsta. I know, but to us, and we had a problem with it, but y'all think it was having a good time. Yeah, see, look, but see, that's how we looked at y'all. Like, that's seawalked and shit, it was like a joke. That was like some funny shit, that was a good nigga. Nah, it was some gangbangers like having fun, expressing theyself through dance. So that's what Ike was too. That's typically only gangbangers, you know, when y'all started seeing niggas who wasn't Crips, Cripp walking and shit. It became a real commercial after a while, and the club, not club, I was a kid, growing up and going to house parties and shit. When nobody danced, they was watching the girls dance, twerk and freaking shit. And niggas would try to just get behind the girl and just stand there, nigga, and let the chick just do her thing. But in the bay, y'all niggas just, you know what I'm saying? After the shit was fly, nigga, all of these niggas really out here, I see the nigga drop his motherfucking gun, nigga. I went to a party and this nigga was dancing, like fucking dancing, and the nigga was grooving. I am out bad, blud. And on top of it, nigga be saying blud and shit, then he was like, whoa. We say blud and cuss and the same cuss. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Cuss and cuss and get blud, cause this nigga over here, brought it high first. The bay area in its entirety, man, is so different from LA. So you went out there just, yeah, that makes sense. I was 17 when I went out there, man. You know it's crazy to grow up in a bay area. I never went to like no college party in the bay area, like I don't know nobody that went to Cal outside of Marshall and Lynch and like that. Like people from sports, like I know like people that went, I can name several people that went to Cal for sports, but I don't- It's a gang of niggas from the bay that from Oakland, that went to Berkeley. Yeah, bro, I'm saying it's like- You said you didn't know them niggas, yeah. Yeah, bro, and I'm saying just culturally, like college is not part of our culture in the bay area. I know for me, I don't know about my area. I ain't never been to a motherfucker Cal. We not big on sports, right? Like, you know, we don't have, like we have like Stanford and we can have Cal, but then our high schools and our like, our region ain't big on basketball, football. No, it is, it's just not predominantly black. No, it's not though. When it comes down to like black people, black communities and shit like that, you'll go to like, to Texas, you'll go to like Los Angeles, right? You can go to Texas, yeah, yeah, Texas is crazy. You go to black people. I know it's black people, right? But then they're like, their whole goal in their mind is to be able to go play in college and shit like that. It's their main goal. In the bay, you didn't have the high school that was a big high school, I mean that you wouldn't play for and then in the scouts was coming and scouting. Shit. They're in Dallas South. Huh? Mack? In San Francisco? No, nigga, Mack in West Oakland. McClimes, right? Yeah, McClimes. But are you, are you considering Dallas South? You talking about Dallas South? Huh? Yeah, Dallas South. For sure. They were the theme of their country. But you try to get into Dallas South like, now Dallas South is in the bay, but like you had to like really, your family had to change their whole life in order for you to actually get into. You had to have money to go to Dallas South. In fact, you had to have some money. You ain't gotta have no money in a lot of these different states and shit like that. Just this high school, Hellin' ain't going to this high school, but the culture of like football is huge. It's big, you know what I mean? Scouts is coming there, you know? I see what you're saying. All the motherfucking time. I hear you. They're high school games like college games. They're college games like NFL games. Nah, in Texas, in Texas, all the whole set of Texas, you a high school standout, you a star. They'll ask you for your autograph. How was it in LA? Same shit, I mean, no autograph, but like if you was, for example, when I was coming up, the best niggas in the city was like, not even the city, because Long Beach, I would say Karim Kelly, Karim Kelly, Darryl Rado, they went to Long Beach Polly. Long Beach Polly was the big powerhouse in LA. Even though it was Long Beach, yeah, even though it was Long Beach, but it's still, they was cracking. Of course you got, Crenshaw was known for basketball, you know what I'm saying? You had Fairfax that was known for basketball, and that's like inner city LA. A lot of the things like the Washingtons, the Freeminds, there's hood schools, a lot of good athletes, but a lot of hood schools kind of squandered their potential, because a lot of niggas are doing all kind of, the best niggas on the team is gang banging ass niggas, you know what I'm saying? So they don't never go to college because they get locked up, going to YA and Darryl's going to the county jail and shit like that, and miss the opportunities. Now it's not all the time, but a lot of niggas, like my closest homeboy is from Harbour City area, even with the Darryl Bond, and he got to the college and he got to the league, you know what I'm saying? So it's a lot of niggas that get to the league from LA, but even the Bay. The Bay, when I moved up to, I moved up there to the Bay, niggas ball, niggas play. It's the Bay, the culture is different. You know what I'm saying? It's the hood coach, Oakland. I, you know, Marshall and Oakland, they give you what they're playing football, what the fuck will you be doing? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Marshall and me bipping cars. You know what I'm saying? Drink it here. But it was a lot of niggas, it's a lot of niggas from Oakland, and Francisco, that was real good, right? But they was kind of like still fucking with the streets a little bit, even going to Cal. Oh yeah, for sure. You know what I'm saying? So I think it's shit, Roy Williams that play for the Cowboys, I think he's from Antioch or some shit? Even Roy Williams. Roy Williams. Number third. I shouldn't know him if he went to Antioch. But he a year older than me. Oh yeah, I don't know that. Unless you're a football fan like that, you probably wouldn't know, but I know he won't do it. Maurice Jones Drew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he went to Della South. Della South, yeah. Oh, okay. That's what's wrong. Damn. Yeah, the Bay, I think like, I know a lot of niggas that had great potential in middle school, high school, but it was definitely the streets, you know? And then it's- You don't think that's everywhere? No, it is everywhere, but I think San Francisco was so saturated, right? With the crack epidemic, you know what I mean? Don't blame that shit on that. That's what I'm saying, hold on. It was everywhere, but do you see the difference in our malnourishment, right, in Oakland, in San Francisco, like in the Bay? We don't produce like thick bitches, you know what I mean? Shit, it'd be thick shit in Oakland. It'd be real nice. You never heard the same L.A. face with Oakland, buddy? Yeah, dude. Yeah, I hear you talking about San Francisco, but you know when he said that, we could go into what, you know, how San Francisco built Oakland's black population, a lot, like, right? We can go there. When we talk about, you know, Jim Crow migration, come to work in San Francisco, but anyway, anyway, but look how- He breaking it down, man. Look how far back that was though. The young ones don't want to hear this shit up. Look how far back that was though, like, you know, Oakland faced with a Frisco face with an Oakland booty, right? Nigga, that was Nigga. You know, it was L.A. face with an Oakland booty. I know, but that was back, and that's when a big booty was still a small booty, right? This is what, black girls, what's it that they back in the day? Nigga, if you look at, if you look at Two Life Crew, Look at all the videos. Look at Two Life Crew, right? And I used to watch that shit on the box, on MBT all the time. They be thinkin' fuck. But you look back at them now, they was small compared to the state. Yeah! I'm talkin' even before the BBL. Even before the BBL world, because the BBL, that's the time now. I remember when girls had ass like that, it was real. Yeah. You know what I'm sayin'? I'm a ass oligist, Nigga. I'm the young man, bro. I'm a study ass. Yeah, my oligy is my shit, bro. Yeah! So now I see it's, you know what I'm sayin'? I'm waitin' for it, man. Look at that ass universe. It was a summa cum laude nigga, yeah. So before the BBL era, there was super thick bras, and there's a few bras from Oakland that I didn't partook in, my nigga. Crazy. No man, it's a chick, I ain't gon' say her name. She from San Francisco. I drove across the bridge, nigga, with no transmission fluid in my transmission, my nigga. No, I mean no power steering fluid in my shit. And nigga's ready to swim across the water. Nigga, her case, I met her in Frisco. I met her at, what the fuck was the club called? Velvet Lounge? Velvet Lounge, yeah. You probably wouldn't know what I'm sayin', but you would, nigga. He never parted in the city. I stayed in the town. Nah, I partied everywhere. Hey, but nigga's, it was cracking cause nigga would come out there from Oakland. Cause Oakland, nigga, I love the bay. I love Oakland, bro. But they, shit, would get shut down so many times. Oh, for sure. Mingo's, Jeffree's, Sweet Jimmy's, nigga. Motherfuckin' up, Matt Swell's. See, I'll tell y'all OGA. Yeah, nigga. Yeah, all that. I don't even know what's crackin', what club's was crackin' right now in the bay right now. Or at least when you lived here. No times, bro. I didn't start goin' to clubs like that, bro, until I came on from prison. And I was 30 years old. So like before that, like if you was a gangsta in the streets, you didn't go to the club cause you was scared of the phone pimp. And then when you did go to the club, nigga, you got the strap, nigga. Nigga's got the strap. Nigga's comin' in tough. Mingo's was like, wait, nigga. Yeah, Jack London Square downtown, nigga. Oh, yeah, yeah. I was hella mad when I was little cause I used to be goin' to Everson Jones and shit and downtown of Jack London Square. And I'd be seein' all the niggas pull up and whimmy and hella pickies out there, nigga. Hella pickies, bro. But it'd be, it'd be, it'd be, I give what you're saying. I go to New York, I go to a lot of other places where, you know, black culture lives at and it's like, damn, damn, oh, shit. Oh, New York is different. That's a different beast, buddy. We ain't gonna say New York, we talkin' about asses. New York? What? Nah, nah. But I lived in New York, bro. We crazy about Texas. Texas too? Number one. Miami. No. We goin' to Texas. Maryland. We gotta put this right now. Texas. Put a comment. Texas for sure. Women with the fattest asses. Texas. Atlanta. What area? Atlanta. Georgia. Georgia. And then we gon' go probably Carolina's. Carolina. Woo! Stop playin' with me. Nah, aye. I fuck with it. No, aye. Charlotte. Charlotte, nigga. Charlotte for show. Yeah. Shout out. Shout out, man. Well, here's the thing. The south, the south for sure. The south is gon' have it, period. Cause that's where all the niggas came from, you know what I'm sayin'? So let's say that. But before they came to the west, they went up north. They went to the north. You know who we got fucked up? New York. The Midwest. I don't know. Detroit. No, nigga. Yeah, Sightowns. I'm gonna have to throw Chicago before Atlanta. Nah, I ain't gon' go that far. Where ass? Nah. I ain't gon' go that far. Nah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta go. Aye, yeah. You get excited, man. You gotta go Atlanta first, though. No, not Texas first. I don't know. Atlanta first before Chicago. Yeah, but you know, Texas, Oklahoma. Oklahoma does not pop in there. But Oklahoma, nigga. Texas, Oklahoma, it's a toss up, but ain't no rappers from Oklahoma. Ain't no videos, no music videos from Oklahoma. Ain't nobody got nigga by Ife. Bro, I've been around, nigga. You know what I'm sayin'? My younger years and shit, nigga. But see, I just live in Ohio. Ohio, nigga. Y'all claimin' cities that y'all had a good experience in. We talkin' about the masses. Cause now- The masses is a- Y'all gon' nigga friends know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I have friends know. Merced, nigga, no, nigga. It's like you just got an ass. It's a family of asses. It's a family of thick-rawls in Merced. That's it. That's it, nigga. It's a lot of undiscovered spots. So when they say Ohio, we send all of these to places. We're not sayin' they in the mix. We just sayin' you be surprised. But you should not be surprised. Anywhere. True, true, true, true. You can be watched. Washington, you know? Yeah. See that? Washington, crazy, you know. They have some more. DC? They do. They have some more. They have some more than them. You can be anywhere. Yeah, true, true, true, true. You can be a motherfuckin' New Mexico city or fat ass. Washington, DC, you know what I'm talkin' about? Oh, DC? Oh, you know what I'm talkin' about? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Chocolate City. Over there in Chocolate City. That's where it's like. Guarantee. The Chocolate City, they got some, they got some. That's up there, top five. Chocolate City, top five. Oh, yeah, for sure. Everybody is like, ah, ah. So, y'all see what I'm sayin' with this New York shit, though? Y'all gotta slap that. Oh, what, no? New York, bro. I've been out there several times. I've lived out there, but it's New York. Hold on, hold on, let me say this. It's not, Dick, we're talkin' about Puerto Rican, we talkin' about Dominican, we talkin' about black. It's a lot of women with titties in New York. Ass, nigga. They walk everywhere, nigga. Everywhere in the project. They walk, they're stairs, you ever been in them subway stairs, nigga? I live in New York. And when you live in an apartment complex that's only, what's it, five stories. Ain't no elevator, bro. It gotta be five or more for the old ass, the brown stones and the projects and shit. They be an elevator, nigga, the elevator breaks down, nigga, you got fuckin' eight flights of services. These chicks be thick to the motherfucker. They pull off that motherfucker, that puff coat in the summertime? I mean, in the wintertime? Nigga, you be like, God damn, y'all know this? The long, you can't see shit. You can't see shit. Hold on. That's what it is. You can't see everybody ass when you walkin' around. Not in the winter. Nah, not in the winter. Yeah. But Texas, nigga, Texas, bad and broad, is from 22 to fuckin' 42. Like, you see, you go to the club, see, women. Everybody's grandma got ass, you hear? Nah, I'm sayin' like the women be 40-something years old, they be dressed like they daughters and shit. Jazzy to the motherfucker. Yeah, nigga, Texas is special. Hey, I'm tellin' you, I got the show in DC, man. All the players gon' be the everything. You comin' right? No. Hey, like I said, man, September 20th, I'm comin' to DC, man. Get your tickets right now. All the players gon' pop out, you know what I'm talkin' about? Where I'm at? DC Comedy Law? Come on, pull up on me, all the ladies. Come on, I wanna see y'all. I heard it's Chocolate City. All the chocolate people come see me. You know what I'm talkin' about? Yes, lord. September 20th, I see y'all in a minute, man. I'm on the way. Thank you, I love everybody. Jackson, Texas. So, what you think about, what you think about? What you think about? What you think about, what you think about? What you think about, what you think about? What you think about, what you think about? L.A. on that, you tweakin'. You got the base fucked up, L.A. on that, man. Hey, I'm biased, but I've been to both places. That's what I'm sayin'. He said, I was in the Bay from 17 to 27, 26. So I grew up in the Bay, basically, nigga. I live L.A., in 99, I moved back in 2008. Who you think got the thickest women in the Bay area, L.A.? I'm biased, though, bro, cause I know where to find them, nigga. Yeah! I know where to find them, nigga, out here. That's true, too. But, bro, like I said, I became a man in the motherfuckin' Bay, bro. So I got a special place in my heart for the Bay area, man. My goodness, bro, y'all got crazy, it's chicks out there that just built crazy. I'm gonna keep it a buck, so when I see, I'm telling black people, he love ass so much, he love ass so much, he couldn't make it to 16. I can't, man. I can't make it to 16, dude, A. Cause I'm reminiscing, I'm reminiscing this shit, man. I'm reminiscing, I'm like, nah, I had, man, bro, you go to Sweet Jimmy's as a young nigga? Don't that sound like women thick at them over? Sweet Jimmy's, bro. Oh, yeah, for sure. That sound like everybody got ass. Yeah, so we used to pull up in there, deep, nigga, like, me and the homies, my teammates used to shit, we go to Sweet Jimmy's, bro, you gon' pull the chick that's 23, or you gon' pull the chick that's 43, and they be looking good, nigga. I was fuckin' with older chicks and I was like in my early 20s, nigga. I was traumatized growing up in the project. My nigga was like, all the bitches, you probably had one thick joint that everybody wanted on your shit, you know what I mean? But it was the malnourishment, my nigga. As I'm older and I look at it now, I think that that's where it comes from. So even when I think about LA, if you're talkin' like Compton and you talkin' like real black cities, you know what I mean? You almost see the same thing. Now, of course, you gon' find some thick joints, you know what I mean? Cause the thick joints, they know how to travel outside of that shit because they gon' get that right attention. Huh? Could that be a TV show? What? Who Thicker. And they have like a babe verse, you know what I mean? And they have a Texas Who Thicker. But, hey, no BBLs though. No BBLs. Organic meat. Organic cakes. Organic games, my nigga. Organic yams. That's the TV show. It's like, next. They're all schoolin' next. How about the bus? Next, you ain't gotta ask like that. Only ass on this show. And you gotta bring your high school prom picture. They'll show that you had ass, you been had ass. You know what I'm sayin'? You been had ass, my nigga. A lot of these girls showin' up, I'm like, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You 32 right now, that's cool. Man, you think as a motherfucker. Why don't you look at 22? Cause if you this thick, there's no way you was skin and bones at 22. You know what I'm sayin'? You knew the girls. After that baby though. After that baby, that thing like swallowing. But you had to have a little bit of hip going on. That thing swallowing a little bit. That's true. Yeah, after that baby. That's true. But like, typically, all the girls I know from my school, I see them now, I'm like, damn, you dumb thic. You know what I'm sayin'? You was already crackin' back then. You know what I'm sayin'? Not for real. Now there's a couple skinny girls that had the olive oils, right? And now you see them now. They got two kids in. Huh, real? Yeah, the little olive oil joint, like my first girlfriend, I used to call her olive oil. Like she want me back, she's got some shit like that. Oh, you a cat. And then, but later on in life, nigga, she grew. She blossomed. Oh my God, no. I mean, not good though. It's like, nah, I don't never like, but like, damn, why didn't you keep your body like that? Oh, it didn't get good. Oh, it didn't get good. Nah, it didn't get good, like. A lot of times, some chicks, they body can't afford the extra 30 pounds they gain over the next 10 years. Hell, nah. And you start like, you know, being like, okay, we're like not workin' out. Like, you know what I mean? Nah. I think workin' out is like a now today thing, or some shit like, that's somethin' that you gotta do. These bitches ain't workin' out. They gettin' BVLs, it didn't take too long. No, they get big on purpose. And then it's like, I'm just gon' take it and put it in. Nigga, that's hilarious, man. They doin' that. This is my plan, bitch. I'ma go ahead and spend three years. I'm again about 45, 50, right? It's gon' go to stupid ass places, I know. But give me one, once I get this nursing job, I'ma get this little bread. I'ma take all the fat from all the bullshit and put it all in my ass. So she had mother fuckin' in and out, ordering two, three triple stacked nigga special menu burgers. Like, oh no, bitch, oh shit. Special menu burgers. Hey, look, this shit is crazy. Can I have a Bison Burger, but a Bison Burger? I seen the bitch the other day, my nigga, she was like showin' off the buns. Like, all right, you just got your shit done. This bitch had a scar this long, comin' down from here. And back here, like, how you gon' pull that off like when you go to the beach? Like, you know what I mean? Tattoos? Like, God damn, that's noob scars look crazy. I'm like, I don't know. You ain't gon' be my bitch, like, you know what I'm like. But like, you ain't gotta be my girl. Yeah, I'm not inin' it with you. What about she had a great personality, did she have money audit? She got money and great personality. I don't know, bro. You a lock it in. No, I'm not lockin', I'm not lockin'. It's still kinda, it depends. You ain't gon' wife a girl with a BBL? Here's the thing, bro, I'm a ass purist, bro. I'm a purist, you know what I'm sayin'? It's almost like as a comedian. Like, you not a, that's how a BBL's like a hack comedian, you know what I'm sayin'? Like, you just, you still in. Like, if you still, here's the thing, no disrespect, I double tapped the yams that are fictitious too. But as far as me wifeing you down, me personally, me being a ass purist, man, it kinda goes against my religion. You know what I'm sayin'? And then wrong, if a nigga had a wife and she had a BBW, a BBL, that's cool, man. Watch out the porn. I do, nigga. You know what I'm sayin'? Yeah, nigga, nigga, nigga, mix up and shit. A BBW, I mean, a, Aveni, I mean a black one. Yeah, yeah, Aveni, nigga. I don't say, yeah. If it look natural, you know what I mean? And it ain't so super crazy like it, maybe so. But like, if it's just like too crazy and you got these big old scars and stuff like that, that's always gonna be in my eyes. What's the male version of a BBL? You talking about the women, what's the BBL? We don't have the access to that. Nah, the male version. The male version of the BBL, my nigga, is spinning his last to go to the strip club to throw some ones, are spinning his last just to get that motherfuckin' change. You got a $15,000 chain on your neck, but you got $20 in your pocket. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't even fad on the bottle. You know what I mean? You're tryin' to still, nigga, sneak out the club. Nigga, you got a BMW, you live in an apartment complex. Yeah. You know what I'm sayin'? When your car knows it's damaged. Why you don't go that far, bud? Oh! Hey, hey, I ain't even tellin' nobody. We got a BMW, yeah. Oh, my far, my far, man. Hey, here's the thing. Nice long, you know what I mean? Here's the what? I got a nice long. Oh, you got a nice long, though. Nigga, no, no, no, the nigga, look, the nigga that got the muntin' like, the nigga that got the weight. You a BDL, nigga? No, no, no, no. All right, all right, all right. All right, listen, listen, listen. That could be harsh, because here's the thing. Then you could, it could be used, nigga. You know what I'm sayin'? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or, or, or, or. No, it's different. We at LA, bruh. Yeah. You got a nice apartment and a whip. You doin' it. You straight. You could be high. You straight, you straight. You doin' it. I ain't really really, all right. I'm just doin' it. Let me specify, let me specify when I say it, the nigga that had, I know a nigga that had, and it wasn't just an apartment, let me clarify. The nigga had a BMW, right? And this nigga didn't have a couch. Yeah. He had a, he had a love seat, which is kinda like a, this is a little baby couch. It's a love seat. He had a love seat. And he, but you know how you get the threeset, you get the sofa, the love seat, and then like the little chair, there's a recliner. He only had the love seat and not the other parts of the shit. And he had an air mattress. He had a BMW with an air mattress. So it's more, it's not about having an apartment, cause you can have an expensive as an apartment nigga. That's what I'm talking about. Niggas is out here paying mortgages in an apartment. So let me clarify, it's a nigga, it basically, That motherfucker nice. He said he's got a little lof, my nigga, oh. He ain't like. And the house is a lot, the loft could be player. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. So it's the nigga, when I'm saying the nigga that put all this money into his car, but he ain't got shit to come home to. That's what I mean. Okay. That's the BBL. The male version of BBLs is when your lifestyle not matching your bank account. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like you got a nice apartment, no car. Or you got a nice car with your apartment on it. Cause real shit, some niggas about A-Bro it ain't good to buy right now. Some niggas like I got an apartment because they got own a house this way, but I'm renting a bitch out. Now I'm living in a, I'm renting this apartment, but I got our own some property already. You know what I'm saying? So let me fall back on the niggas that got BMWs and got apartments nigga. I ain't judging nigga, I don't know your life. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, nah. That's hella funny. We've been talking about all type of crazy shit. All kinds of shit. Y'all still tuned in? Y'all enjoying this? Y'all fucking with it man? Put a comment, let us know as we talk about the kickback man. We talk about the kickback man. This thug mansion, you know what I'm saying? This is the kickback. We just kick back. Yeah nigga, we got Oakland, the motherfucking South Sedra and the Skow nigga. Come on man. The old school Skow, man. The old school Skow, nigga. Fresh Skow, California. It's called the city. Seven cities. Nah, we didn't call it the city when I was up there. And they did, they did, they did. But like it was the Skow. It was Fresh Skow, Fresh Skow for sure. And I fuck with the term Fresh Skow. I'm just trying to keep people updated. Yeah, yeah, the city. You gotta keep niggas updated. Yeah, the city. You know what, so what's funny was, so I lived in New York, right? And when I used to say I was from the city, this one I was from. And he's from Manhattan, the city. They're like, hold on, we the city. So you know what I mean? And then I learned real quickly. And every downtown is the city. Every city I go to, they be like, you head to the city? Exactly, so that's why I love niggas. That's why I never looked at it like as the city, right? Because it's like, how can I tell somebody where I'm from? You know what I mean? When I travel and shit like that. And you, like for us, you know, you say Bay Area, right Bay Area motherfuckers know what I mean? But like San Francisco, you could say San Francisco, Oakland, you could say Oakland. But you can say the city. No, I learned, I learned. You can't say Oakland everywhere. Not anywhere, no. People, they got Oakland in Texas. There's been so many people that be like, I don't know where that, like they don't. Really, really California Bay Area? They don't know where it's at. Everybody knows San Francisco, be honest with ya. Black people know where Oakland is. And there's some people, you go deep in the South, there's some people that don't know where Oakland at. They just know LA because of movies and shit. Yeah, they know LA and San Francisco. That's the only true city they know in California. That's the only city that's really in the grand scale. So that's shit. You tell them you from Watts, they go like Watts. Yeah. But exactly. But they might know that shit from the movie. But you know what, in order for us to like the Bay Area, and I said this before, in order for us to like compete with Los Angeles, you have to say the Bay Area, right? Just like when you say LA, but knowing you from like Compton. Compton is its own city. You can't say Compton. You say LA because it's the county. We need more movies, bro. It's not LA guys. Yeah, we need more movies, bro. Yeah, and that's why I jump in. You know what I mean? You know, straight up, film out. Yeah, let's talk, let's talk about things. Let's talk about shit. Hey, I'm with it. I'm with it, nigga. What's happening? So your production value is very high on your YouTube videos. It's incredible, right? I appreciate it. How did you get the money to shoot these high quality skits? That took me a while, bro. I mean, when I first started, you know, I was a DP first. I was shooting sketches for, I mean, everybody, every black comedian that's doing their thing now. Shout out to all of my niggas. What a DP is, is a cinematographer. Yeah, basically, for y'all niggas and all, a cameraman. I was a cameraman for a lot of comedians doing sketches for years from 2010 up until 2017, just to make a little bread, you know what I'm saying? Wasn't making that much money. I was charging like $15,000 an hour. My first year doing this shit, it was free. I had to send them a comic. I know a gang of comics. Hey, bro, I'll shoot your sketches for free, bro. Do this to get the practice. And to let y'all niggas know what I can do. You know what I'm saying? So that first year I did it and in 2011, I was like, bro, I'm charging $15 an hour. That's super cheap, right? At the time, I had a full-time job, and I was still shooting. Where you was working at? I was a teacher, innit? What? A substitute teacher, man. No big black ass was a teacher? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keepin' it alive. I'm a security. Right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. My classroom was quiet in the motherfucker, for sure. I did shit for four years, man. I threw three at niggas. Four years, man. Four years, man. We're grade level. Ninth and 12th. Wow, so you're very educated. A little bit, man. It was a cow, man, you know what I'm saying? I got a little brains on me, man. Yeah. That's dope. Yeah, man, so I did that for four years, and then I did security. Then I went on tour and started doing bodyguard work on tour and shit. I know it, nigga, huge difference, bro. Huge difference, my nigga. You work for a teacher to be a teacher? Yeah, nigga, yeah, yeah. You a, nigga, you a super nigga. Ha, ha, you can do anything. No, man. I teach you history, nigga, and I whip your ass. I make planes. Oh, yeah, yeah. I know how to make a plane. I know how to drive cars, buses, teach security, gangbangs. Yeah, nigga, that's funny, yeah, man. You got, being an actor, an aspiring actor, and shit like that, you got to have them odd jobs, you know what I'm saying? Some niggas wait tables, drive limos, and shit over. Yeah, so I was a person trainer 100 pounds ago. You know what I'm saying? Let's y'all niggas know 100 pounds ago, nigga, then got fat. But I mean, I mean, I'm in there a little bit, a little chuffed, a little chubby buff, you know what I mean? A little mixture, nigga. So I was a person trainer for years, then I was a substitute teacher, and then I became a bodyguard. And that bodyguard took me away from LA. I'm all over the country now, but I'm there for, I'm going for like two months. But I come back, I got a little cushion financially to where I can just really pursue the comedy, really pursue writing and directing and shit. So in 2017 is where I really started going hard with the sketches. Wow. So like, so pretending to act and pretending to production, obviously you have your own production company and stuff like that. Do you ever see yourself venturing off into being like, are you doing auditions for roles and stuff like that? Are you trying to make a movie? Yeah, for sure, absolutely. Like on a big scale, you know, shit like that. The goal, my goal, my end goal was to, it is to act and direct in my own films, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, so write, write, direct and act in my own films. Yeah, cause current, aren't you on the upshots with Mike Epps? Yeah, I did an episode there. I did episode season one. That show was fun as hell, man. Yeah, I was happy to see you on there. Yeah, man, shout out to Mike, man. Dope, man, he gave me opportunity, I auditioned for them, him and Wanda Sykes. And I got it, man, and we had fun that day. You know what I'm saying? We shot, I think it was two days. So you get a lot of opportunities off of the platform you created and these people reach out to you or do you do a lot of auditions and do the HC of it? I've done less auditions now that I've been having some success on my own. I did, I got my agent in 2009 and I was auditioning for TV commercials for years and years doing stuff here and there. Nothing really to build my career off of though. I never was able to build a savings by working. I wasn't, I wouldn't consider myself a working actor. I always had a real job and I've auditioned because either I didn't get them enough or I just didn't book enough, you know what I'm saying? Then I started doing my own shit in 2017, putting myself in front of the camera every day, every week, every month. And that's when I remember I said I was going to keep working until something happened. You know what I mean? So now I kind of put myself in a position to where I walk into, sometimes when I walk into audition they're like, oh, hey, okay. You're the big guy. You're a big J, right? Big job. Big job, okay. So I go into already knowing that they know who I am. You know what I'm saying? So that's a blessing that I kind of cultivated over the years, you know what I'm saying? Having so much content online that's getting spread around to where anywhere I go now folks recognize me. At first I remember doing a sketch in 2015, 16 with nobody fucking with it, you know what I'm saying? But I wasn't consistent though either. I wasn't consistent. Consistency, when I say fuck this shit, man, I'm gonna do this shit every day. I'm gonna shoot a sketch every day. If I got somebody to help the camera, I'm gonna shoot. And that drove you to do skits every day because the auditioning stuff was inconsistent. You couldn't depend on that so you like build up your own foundation. Yeah, cause I was waiting. You know what I'm saying? A lot of actors be waiting. Yeah, trying to break into the industry is like tough. Like me getting into acting, you know, I got big opportunity, you know, for Last Black Man in San Francisco with Mike Epps, Tashina Arno, Danny Glover, so forth, so on. But I wasn't ready and prepared. I don't have an agent. I don't know nothing about film in general, but I always wanted to get into film. I just didn't know how to. Exactly, a lot of people don't know. It was always about like, how am I going to make my own shit? You know what I mean? I'm thinking like, nigga, I gotta buy these cameras. I gotta do all of these things when there's really an easier route. But there ain't no, you know, there ain't no direction to that route. You know, even trying to get to that route, like you still got a future family. You still got all this other stuff. You still got life to pay for. Yeah, you still got life to pay for and shit like that. That's the hard part. That's the hard part, right? Is it expensive to shoot like independent skits? Like how you do? So, no. But what you have to have is a team. Like I'm gonna keep it a hundred, bro. When I first started, shout out to my boy Clayton. My first sketch I shot that kind of blew my brand up was Tiberius, the hood hitman. That was my first sketch. I shot that in 2017 and it went viral where it hit like a million in three days, you know what I'm saying? That's what I discovered you. I appreciate it. My nigga, hell yeah. That's dope. And the person that held the camera was the first introduction. What'd it do? I'm the big homie Tiberius. My nigga Clayton Thomas held the camera. Shout out, Clayton. Shout out to my nigga. That's what I do right there. He didn't even know nothing about cameras, but I said, bro, I'm gonna focus it up for you. All you had to do was hold it. I didn't even have a tripod for him. He was holding it. It was shaking heavy, my nigga. Yeah, so I'm fucking up doing the sketches, doing the takes, two or three, four, five, six takes. And he shot that shit and it took me like three weeks to get that one video done because I didn't have nobody to shoot for me. I'm so used to being a camera man. I'm so used to being a nigga to shoot for everybody. Don't nobody know how to use these cameras. Everybody doing their phone shit. Yeah, yeah. Ain't nothing wrong with that because you use what you got. And niggas can blow up on their phone. Yeah, yeah. You went to school for this shit. Yeah. This is the way that you do it. Yeah. So as much as like, so you say it's not expensive, but I think a lot of people don't look at it like that. They need to get over that hump so they want to buy that red, but then they don't ever see it themselves. Well, I mean, that type of like quality. No, no, no. They'll buy a red. They'll buy a red off top. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But that's how I work my way up to it. I work my way up to that shit. Well, motherfuckers ain't used to having four, five thousand dollars just in a pocket to do that. I know, I know. You know what I mean? So then motherfuckers don't do it because they don't know how they're going to make money off of it. It's kind of far afetched unless it's like your passion and something that you really into then you're going to take those sacrifices to do so. Yeah, I did. That's what you did. No, for sure. When I had, when I first started, excuse me, shooting every day, I had a, I had a Canon 7D. That's a, at the time, it was an old camera. Excuse me. And how much you pay for it? $300. My homegirl shout out to Desire. She was, she was about to pawn that bitch. She was about to pawn it. And I was like, how much are you going to pawn it for? She was on the phone with the dude. He'll give you $300 for it. Cool, I'm about to go pawn this shit. I said, well, shit, $300. I'll give that to you right now. Now she had a, she was trying to get a better camera. And she's a photographer. And so she had enough money to get it once she got this $300 that I would put her over the top to where she can get all the shit she needed. So I paid her $300, she gave me the camera. It's, it works perfectly, but it's old. It's an old ass camera. And the lens I had was like an old lens I borrowed from my homeboy that was losing his focus. The focus ring was, it was, it was breaking. It was slowly breaking. And I had a mic that I got from my other homeboy. I just never gave it back to him. You know what I'm saying? It was an old ass mic that he wasn't even tripping off because he had got new equipment. So he never asked me for a back. So I never gave it back. It had a hiss on it, a hiss. So if you listen to my first 20, 30, 40, 50 sketches, you hear that hiss, nigga. You know what I'm saying? But that's what all I had to use. I shot. Now, mind you, I had a better camera than that. I had newer equipment than that too cause I was already D.P. in for other people. But I'm in my mind now right now. I don't need that super, I don't need the better cameras. I'm gonna do my shit with this one camera. Wow. So you would say, what's more important? Quality or consistency? Consistency for show. And creativity, you know what I'm saying? And just understanding to set myself apart where I went to film school, but you don't have to. I know niggas as cold as fuck with the directing, with the writing, they never went to school at all. So you don't have to go to school. I just happened to go to school for that shit. And so I understand the story. How to break down, how to literally say one line, you say one line, I say one line, you say the next line, I say another line, and you cut us off and say this line, but you don't cut each other off when you're filming it. Because now you're overlapping. But in edit, you make the conversation, send a conversation when you edit the shit. A lot of people don't understand that. Did you edit? You edit? Yeah, I edit all my shit up into. To this day? Yeah, if I shot over five of the sketches, I probably edited 400 sketches. Wow. Yeah. So right now, dude, you got a man camera man? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. That's how I was wrong. I'm like, man, who's shooting all of this shit? Over the last couple of years, my shit looks even better if it's because of him. Yeah, that's the door. I know what I'm doing. I know how to do everything. Yeah. Okay, directing is what I'm good at. That's my specialty. The writing and then acting, even I'm getting better at that. But if I had to choose which one I feel comfortable doing right now, it's acting and directing, you know what I'm saying? Lights. I can edit the film too, but the quality of color, color grading on that shit, the graphics, that's not my specialty. But I can edit, I can chop up a sketch, I can chop up a movie even. I can edit the movie and send it to a special effects guy. So why did you choose to do a lot of skits on YouTube and chop them down? A lot of them versus trying to create one movie? Yeah, perfect. That's a great question. My next thing is it was built dope with the question. Trying to learn. Nah, for real shit, because you don't have no fan base yet. How long have you been doing comedy? 11 years? Boom, let's say your first year you say I'm gonna do a comedy special. Come on. Anybody gonna come see you? Your family, your niggas will. For sure, but you gotta build that. So I noticed that I didn't have no fan base. So why would I do a movie? Especially if it's not a big motion picture, if it's not a studio film. Studio is gonna make sure people come see it. They're gonna spend millions and they're gonna advertise and market it. And distribution and stuff like that. Right, but when you're independent, you know what I'm saying? And you don't have no, and you're selling out the trunk of your car, that's basically what we're doing. Yeah, exactly. You do social media. And you build a fan base from 1,000 followers to 2,000 to, you know what I'm saying? You might even start off with 20 followers. I mean, I remember back in the day when I was happy to have 30 views. Oh, nigga, 30 motherfuckers? See my shit. Really, I promise you. You know what I'm saying? So a million views, a million followers on YouTube, that's a blessing. I'm super excited to have that, but it took me a minute to get there. And I just took it day by day. You know what I'm saying? So a movie is what I'm doing now. You know what I'm saying? I'm writing a film now. I mean, my boy can't. Am I gonna be in it? You can. Am I gonna be in it? I ain't just saying that because here's the thing. I'm trying to bring this hood good comedy back, bro. You know what, if it's hood and comedy, I gotta be in it. That's what I'm saying. I ask people shit on camera. Yeah. Because if you shoot the movie and I'm not in it, I'm gonna pull it off. Hey, but we have to make it happen. Because here's the thing. My goal is to put as many niggas as I can on, bro. Even though I've been knowing each other for some years now, I've seen each other in passing or whatnot, but I've been seeing your funny nigga. You funny as fuck. Appreciate it. You know what I'm saying? For sure. Me personally, everybody that knows me in this comedy game knows that nigga, damn they're almost fucked with everybody so far. If you see my sketches, they might not be in every single sketch, but I'm gonna find a way to go get some of the homies that I came up with. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That was another question I was gonna say. How you do your casting? Like, you know what I mean? Cause I see different barriers of faces and women, you know, stuff like that. I had to build that shit too. I'll be keeping it on you. When I first started nigga, I had a couple of sketches I did years ago. Shout out to Reina. Reina Amaya. She from the Bay too. Oh, okay. Since she a comedian. But she might have moved back to the Bay before by the time you came down there. Really? Yeah, I'll show you a picture of her. Okay. But yeah, she from the Bay. She cool as fuck. And she was in one of my first sketches. I did probably 12 years ago. You know what I'm saying? So certain comedian homegirls I knew. Aronah Browning, you know what I'm saying? So people who I knew, Tangerina's my nigga for years. So I started with the people who fucked with me. At first, when you first, did you get somebody to come around for free, nigga? Yeah. That's almost impossible. Especially in LA, nigga. Now here's the thing. It started off with just a few homies. I'm saying so my boy Ken, I ran into him. I've been knowing him for, during comedy. I've been knowing him just in passing. Once again, I see him at the gym one time. We just chop it up. He showed me the sketch, this web series he been doing. I said, oh shit nigga, you do, you shoot? See, yeah man, I shot this web series. Oh nigga, we need the link though. Cause that's what I do. But I can't find other comedians to do shit outside of just doing stand up. And I ain't, we gonna do stand up forever. Nigga Comet's gonna, I'm gonna do stand up forever. But I'm a filmmaker too. So I met him. He said, he said, you come to the house, nigga. Come to the house to shoot some shit. So that's the first, he was my, the first nigga I can get to hold the camera for me anytime I ask him for it. And that's a blessing. You can't get that nowhere, you know what I'm saying? I didn't have no brain when I first started this shit. I was broke as fuck. You know what I'm saying? Outside of, I was living off my savings from working security all over the years through doing touring, you know what I'm saying? So if I didn't, I didn't have a nine to five. So that was a blessing. I was able to wake up every day and go to work. I could pay my bills. I could pay for my car and shit like that. And not gonna just focus. I don't have to do, I don't have to teach no more. I can just focus on this shit. That's hard to stay consistent. I know you done went through a few teams probably. Nah, nah, here's the thing. They didn't stay, they didn't stay there. That's the thing, bro. That's the thing, man. Me and my nigga, Ken Edwin TV, my nigga Troy, you know what I'm saying? And Minx and my nigga Ali. Ali's not even a comedian or actor. He a producer, but he my nigga. So he was just down for the cause. He's the type of nigga, he's a selfless ass nigga, bro. And you got, you pray for those type of men. Those type of people, women or men in their life, you know what I'm saying? Like niggas if I brought love, what you doing, bro? I respect what you're doing. I see you need this, I got you. Hold the camera, tell me how to use this motherfucker. I'm gonna help you. And so I will call him, bro, what you doing? Shit, nigga, I got a studio session with some clients, nigga, at eight, but I'm pretty much free all day. What's your mind pulling up? Yeah, I pull up until seven and I gotta leave. Cool, I got, now I'm gonna shoot two sketches in that time, Minx, my nigga Minx. I met this nigga online, you know what I'm saying? Through IG, a young nigga that remind me of myself as this younger nigga going hard with his own content in LA, but it was hard to get the homies around. Don't nobody around in LA in the hood do what he do. They'll come buy it for a little bit. After a while, nigga, what a smoke at, nigga, what the hell is that? I don't wanna shoot these sketches. The niggas don't do that. So he was outside in LA, not knowing what to do. When he met me, I'm in the valley now, and nigga, move up to the valley, you know what I'm saying? Nigga, just break his lease on this apartment and I'm over there with all the niggas. Whoever is creating, I wanna be over there. And that's how it built me, him, Ali, my nigga Ken, and nigga, I don't have to pay niggas to shoot for me. They don't gotta pay me. Yeah, exactly. That's the part, nigga. That's the hard part. Yeah, exactly. And niggas don't understand that. I promise you all my life, bro. I need to charge it for shit. That's it, huh? Yeah, that's the part niggas don't get. Like, nigga, I charge for this, you charge for this. All right, nigga, let's do it, even exchange. Yeah, especially when you pay, I didn't have no money. I couldn't pay nobody to shoot for me. I couldn't pay nobody to edit for me, so I edited it myself, but I can't shoot me by myself. I gotta be in front of the camera. So I asked my nigga Ken, Troy, Minx, bro, whichever one of them wasn't busy that day, can you shoot for me today? And can you shoot for me tomorrow? And can you shoot for me on Wednesday? And I shoot for you on Thursday, I shoot for you Saturday, you know what I'm saying? And so we never had to pay for a cameraman. I taught this nigga Minx how to shoot, now he shoot damn near better than me, you know what I'm saying? So I taught Ali how to shoot, you know what I'm saying? He's a mastermind in the studio, he's a producer. When it comes to cameras, I told him how to use the camera. Now he knows what he's doing, he got me in focus, he got the camera angle right, everything is cool, and then niggas wanna learn, we wanna get better. That's the only way I was able to drop so many videos all the time for free, you know what I'm saying, cause I paid these niggas and my services back to them, you know what I'm saying? And a lot of niggas don't get that. But when the money come back, how did y'all bust that down? Everybody made their own individual money? Hell yeah, nigga. Yeah you make your own individual money. You got your page, I got my page. When you need me, I'm there for you, you know what I mean? It's like saying that we all try to figure it out, and a lot of it is based off of like, partnership too, this is my partner, I fuck with him, I love your vision, you fuck with mine, okay? We kicking and we just chilling, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, Lou, you need me to pull up, or send me, you need me to pull up, like you know what I mean? And just doing it like that when you see motherfuckers have their own visions and stuff like that. I want to help you as much as I can help you. Exactly. And you want to help me as much as you can help me. You know what I mean? Some shit like that where it's like egoless. When it's time for you to shoot for them niggas, don't slack. Be there, bro, don't be there. Because the homie, I call a nigga at nine in the morning, like bro, can you come at two? Yeah, you busy? I'm busy right now, but I could be free by one. So I pull up at two, I got you. And they can shoot for me from two to six, that's four hours. And he not slacking. So when he called me, I could be about to do something like, if I have to do it, then that's different. But I'm like, I know how important it is for him to shoot for me. So I know how important it is for me to shoot for him. So a nigga, a bro, can you pull up tomorrow at three? Yeah, I got you. I'll shoot for you. I'll shoot for you from three to eight. I'm there. And everybody make their own money. Everybody got their own page. Everybody got monetized, back to back. I got monetized first and Troy got monetized and then Nick and Ken did, then Minks did. You know what I'm saying? That's special, bro. Give a round of applause for your team. Shout out to the team, bro. And that's why I feel like we were able to excel and speed the process up because everybody was selfless. Was nobody tripping. And it's not a conflict of interest. Nah, what you mean? Meaning that everybody, because shout out to your team, but you the biggest public figure out of that situation. So it never came like, I feel like it's very rare when it's like. And the jealousy seems like that. That's true. Nah, we didn't. We didn't have that. And we still, we don't have that now. I was to the woman, Nick and Ken, before I got here. Remember how I said I was shooting? I mean, me and him at the studio shooting. It's my nigga. We made the same nigga. Nigga six years later, rewriting the movie together. That's dopest. It's a blessing, bro. And it's not. That's really a blessing. Now I promise you, I ain't trying to be cliche, but think about it, bro. It's not, it's some niggas that really love you, but they don't have it in their mindset and their heart to just sacrifice their time and effort for you on a regular basis over the years, over the years. You know what I'm saying? But they learn it too. They learn, he's learning. I'm learning, we getting better. I promise you, his page is monetized because he, he don't have to pay. And this thing is about to get married by the month. When I first met him, he was getting, he was engaged and he was getting ready for his wedding. He got to pay for that shit. Nigga driving lift and shit, hustling, getting bread. He can't sit at that time. His wife, his fiance ain't gonna be sitting there allowing him to go pay some nigga to help him shoot some shit. Then he ain't making the money off of yet. But he ain't gonna worry about that. He got him, somebody's gonna shoot it for free. I saw it for his first, probably his first hundred sketches was free. I played this, you know what I'm saying? My first hundred sketches was free. You know what I'm saying? Me, along with them, probably two, three hundred sketches, but- And you was wise enough to go straight to, like as a team, y'all always wise enough to go straight to YouTube instead of Instagram and all that. No, you was on Instagram first, bro. Oh, okay. Cause I feel like that's what I was wrong. He was monetized first. I told all the homies, I didn't do it. Nigga, they finally, the money finally here. I promise you, I was like, I'm gonna keep shooting sketches and dropping this shit until I make some money doing it. I was doing brand deals here and there for $200, $300. Nothing major that you can really go, you know what I'm saying? Save up for, but it would help you pay the bills and shit like that. Then when YouTube hit, I noticed I was on YouTube and my page was monetized. I didn't even know it. I made a page and I was on YouTube but I wasn't putting shit on YouTube cause I didn't have no fan base there. Nobody fucking with me. It was fucking with me on IG and a little bit on Facebook. 2017. 17, yep. And then I realized I was monetized on Facebook. I'm like, on YouTube, I was like, what the fuck? It says six pennies, my nigga, 0.06. I said, oh, six cents? I'm cool with that. I'm a hustler, nigga. So if I can make six cents, I can make 60 cents. Then I can make six dollars. Then I can make 60 dollars, you know what I'm saying? So I remember, I was like, bro, when I get my first thousand dollars, hell yeah. Now I'm gonna take that money, I bought the little account. Nah, I waited. Wait a little bit longer. I'm like, I don't need it man. My roommate at the time, my nigga, Nate Jackson, he was like, nigga, wait til you get 10,000 dollars. Wait til you get 10,000 dollars. And then you take it out. I was like, I gotta pay bills, nigga. I don't know about that. But then once the money was there, then they made, I was already hustling hard. I was already shooting sketches weekly, daily, and putting it out. But I can see the growth, the more you put in there, it helps you and motivates you to be consistent. You know what I'm saying? So now we're like, nigga, let's keep going even harder. So we're shooting from 11 o'clock in the morning, sometimes 10 o'clock in the morning to like eight at night. And then we go across the street, nigga, and grab a little Caesar pizza, bro. Cause we didn't have the money yet. We saw the money coming, but it was in an account still. You gotta make it a certain amount before you can touch it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I don't know about that, yeah. So we was like, nigga, let's keep going. And we used to have a meeting every Sunday. We sat down, like, bro, this is cause, bro, I've been spending too many years being broke, being talented and broke. Man, nigga, that's so hard. That's the freshest thing part of it. As a comedian, you know how that is, nigga. On my mama. Being talented and broke, bro. That shit is traumatizing. Man, it really is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we was like, bro, we gotta, we finally, this is it. This is the time that, especially me, I told myself, nigga, I'm gonna keep doing this shit until I make, I make some money doing this shit financially. I graduated from college with a film degree from Cal in 2004. I didn't make no money until 2017. No real money. No real money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, man, my degree finally paid off. I didn't make that shit until like 2000 and almost 19. I started in 2017. I was broke as hell. I was this shoot, I loved doing this shit. And I saw the fan base growing. I saw people fucking with it. And then I still was broke for the year and a half, nigga. I was for the first year and a half. Oh, yeah, you big John, nigga. The fame come first before the money. The fame come first, nigga, broke as hell. Nigga, I'm a, I'm, nigga, I'm, I got $475 to my name, nigga, because I didn't put everything into this, nigga. Yeah. And bring this dude. And I'm three days behind. Right. Gotta make it happen. So I was still doing, excuse me, I was still doing editing jobs. Like editing jobs, people would see me, they filmed or they short films or they music video and I'll put that, I will edit that shit for some bread and while I was still shooting my shit. Damn. I was still my nigga. And then I asked the homies, they would come down and they would walk down the hallway in my apartment complex, in my apartment and see me at the computer like this, nigga. Dozen, nigga, 3, 4, 5 in the morning, sun coming up, I'm about to drop this video. I dropped the video at 8.30 in the morning and I go to sleep, wake up at 11.45. So that's how you was able to be like, you really became like a internet superstar, but you really a stand-in comedian, but from a grand scale, I didn't know you was a stand-in comedian until I really started doing my research. Oh yeah. I thought you were just like a fucking, I don't even know, because I wouldn't, YouTube fame is different from social media, like Instagram fame, because I respected your like sketches in fame versus like just like Tik Tokers or Instagramers. I feel you. Am I tripping for saying that? You're not, I get what you're saying. A lot of times, I did narrative. Like there's narrative is different from like, camera action, you got the camera on you and you're doing this. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's narrative, but it's more like narrative homemade video-ish. Yeah. That's cracking too. That's cracking too. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to like a country Wayne. Country Wayne's probably the biggest nigga doing this shit. Exactly. The nigga making, he making. I watch him every day until he stopped putting this shit on Instagram. Yeah. Every day. The whole story. It's just camera phone shit, but that works for him. And it works for him and this is working for it. And it seemed like he put this whole team on. It's like a community over there. Exactly. And he making major bread and he spreading the wealth. Yeah. See, I'm gonna look at you more in a, like a Melvin Gregg space. Yeah. Yeah. I always respect Melvin Gregg before he even became like. Nah. Who he is now. That nigga. His sketches is like, I'm like, this nigga ain't no internet nigga. Nah, he, bro, I meant to do the covers. I know him through some other homies, you know what I'm saying? We've crossed paths before. I've been in his studio before working on with other guys. And this nigga be in there by himself building a fucking set. Yeah. I seen the nigga build a set. And we didn't know each other. I said, we knew each other like from seeing each other in the gym and shit like that. Maybe seen each other sketches before, but I'm in there because the homie is his friend. He's part of it. So we shooting the whole web series over here. And I see him in between takes that nigga's drilling shit and slacking down some wood and build, I'm like, this nigga built in a whole set by itself. Him and his cousin. Like you can see the difference between people hustling it and then some people that's making it like a crap. And that's how I looked at, that's how I look at your stuff. Melvin Gregg and a few others. Yeah. King Batch. It was some people I'm like, nah, they actors. Because these niggas ain't no internet niggas, bruh. The internet, I took it. I went to Sundance in 2017. That's really, I didn't tell y'all this. In 2017, January of 2017, I went to Sundance with my partner, my boy from college. He produced a film that he starred in. And he won that bitch. He won all of Sundance. Sure. A feature. Feature? Yeah. 2017. 2017. Crown Heights. Oh yeah, Crown Heights. That was a phenomenal movie. Yeah, nigga. I got to check it out. Crown Heights is wrong. He put a lot of effort into that film, bruh. Because I remember when he first told me about it three years before, he showed me the documentary of it. It's a true story. And then. I swear Crown Heights is almost similar to my story. Oh, okay. You're right. Okay, I want to check it out. Yeah, damn. Now check out Crown Heights, bruh. It's super relatable. It's so many, especially black men that's in prison. He really won't do it. Not guilty at all. People always say, nigga, everybody innocent. Just a lot of niggas in prison that should be there. Nah, for real. That was like me. I had life in prison. I had 50 life in prison. I got framed for murder in 2018. Damn. And it took me seven years to tell it to me, come home off of it. But when I sat in prison, nigga, I knew hella motherfuckers, my nigga who really just didn't do it. Like niggas tell like war stories, like they true shit, like what actually happened? Yeah. But I seen the fine more niggas in jail, my nigga who really didn't do it, who either didn't tell on the nigga or they didn't do what they was charged for. They probably was there, but they didn't do what they was charged for and shit like that. Crown Heights was a phenomenal movie. I learned about it. Where can I watch it at? Amazon Prime. Okay, I'm gonna check it out. I found out about it the year after cause our film was at Sundance, Last Black Man in San Francisco and we won Best Director and shit like that. So then I got into it. I gotta watch that. I know about it, I haven't watched that yet. And it did win the next year. Yeah, we won it the next year. So I got fully into film at that point, but I wanted to kind of like, I had to learn film. That's like the day I did Sundance was the day I committed myself all the way to film. So you went there? I'll go in a year. Niggas, I was in one of the last years. I was late to the last year too. Damn, I came to the last few days. I watched the Steph Curry documentary. I watched the magazine dreams. Magazine dreams, yeah. I missed the shit. Like I hit Jonathan Majors, whatever, but behind it I'm missing it. I was networking, man, trying to like it. As you said, if you get a chance, you can go to Sundance, especially in January. That should be in mind, right? No, it's in Utah. Park City, Utah. Park City. Yeah, it's cold as fuck. Bring your boots, nigga. But it's worth it though. Should I go with you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going again. This is January for sure. And it's cracking, it's cracking though. Okay, I got a group too, the Woodside group. I could connect you to basically a group of filmmakers and they got like Hella Houses and shit like that. You could pick what spot you're going to stay in and then they got like a central base where you got all these creatives that just like come. They writers, director, producers, all types of shit. I got a film that I acted in that being submitted this year to hopefully, you know, that motherfuckers. Okay, it will be, man. Blessings, man. So you think that's the wave or everybody got a different route to success? Everybody got a different route. Comedy is one thing that we got to keep doing because ultimately that's going to make you, it's going to keep you happy because you love being on stage but it's going to make you money for the rest of your life. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Comedy, you could be fucking 75. And you get on stage, you know what I'm saying? They won two, you know what I'm saying? Like Dick Gregory, you know what I'm saying? Rest in peace. He was doing comedy until he passed away. Yeah, all of them. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I love Dick Gregory, bro. And then the smartest hell. Oh yeah, man. Super, super, for show. So Sundance was sparking. I got back home, I was like, bro, I've been hustling but I've been hustling not the wrong way but not strong enough, not the right way. And so I need to get, I need to, because I was writing a lot of drama, a lot of drama shit, you know what I'm saying? So I was like, comedy, comedy and fights and twerking is the biggest shit on the internet, you know what I'm saying? Twerking, fights and funny shit. So I was like, I'm already standing in the comic. I can write comedy all day, you know what I'm saying? I wrote some shit for ADD years ago that they didn't use. Shout out to ADD, love y'all. Everybody wrote for ADD. But rest in peace, my nigga Teddy Ray, man. Teddy Ray, my nigga, hell yeah. Rest in peace. Yeah, I got Teddy, I got Lil Teddy with me. This is the smallest Teddy ever gonna be, my nigga. Yeah, love you, Teddy. Hell yeah, man, shout out to that brother, man. Rest in peace, Teddy Ray, man. Yes, sir, yes, sir. But I came home and I was like, bro, my nigga, this one's Sundance, bro. And me and him went to school together. We was talking about doing this film shit since we was 17 to 18 years old. And I was like, bro, I gotta focus. I gotta focus, tap in, and really be uncomfortable. Because if you're being broke, it's hard. I don't have no kids yet. So it was easy for me to be broke by myself. So if you got children, I understand that that's a different plight, you know what I'm saying? A different situation. But I was able to go hard for it as long as I could until the money came. And when the money came, that's when I was able to be spread out. All right, you get your team, you get your team, you get your team. We still family. We still doing our shit, but that's when I stopped writing. I mean, I stopped editing my shit. I hired somebody to edit, you know what I'm saying? But it takes a lot of time out of me doing that shit myself, you know what I'm saying? You gotta choose time or money in certain things for show. It's crazy, our story is similar with the Sundance thing. After Sundance, man, it was like, cause I was doing music, you know, home some shit and I had this character. Within the music, like the music was like me, but then the character, the 10 milli, milli character was this persona bigger than life that people, you know, grasped to that was like, it was funny and it was like, you know, you are this person, but I wasn't able to separate that person into like who I am as a creative and I just Jamal Trula. But when I went to Sundance and I seen that Jamal Trula was bigger than this character, you know what I mean? On who I was in my story, I had to put the character to the side in the music to the side and say, fuck that, I'm gonna get myself uncomfortable and jump all the way into life. Yeah, you gotta do it. That's part of elevating. It take time, like, come on, fuck on some shit. I do. Get those stages. That time is what you gotta, you gotta, what the nigga say the beautiful struggle? Yeah, my nigga Masi. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah, so the beautiful struggle, bro, you gotta have that shit, man, cause that's, it takes time, but that time is where you learn your, and hone your skill. And so this, I guess, comics, and sometimes niggas be afraid to get on stage. They funny as fuck. Me. But you gotta be, but you gotta get on there and just understand your fuck being, be comfortable being uncomfortable. Yeah, for real. You ain't gonna be funny off top, nigga. When you first started playing basketball, you were nice off top. You know what I'm saying? Why should it be any different? You know what I'm saying? Do you feel like most majority of the, this is the last question too. That's all love. Do you feel like a lot of the internet comedians, like influencers, that, cause a lot of this new air is influenced by social media influencers. Challenges. You know what I'm saying? All of that. A lot of the comedians don't want to jump into stand-up. I didn't talk to a lot of comedians from like, not comedians, but like internet. Personalities. Personalities. From where I'm from back home and I be trying to help them. But it's hard to help these niggas cause they think they too good to do stand-up. But eventually every social media star I know that ran to that stage. Cause here's the thing. If you have a following and you have a brand and people like to hear what you have to say, the next step is to go to a platform where you a stage, a podium or whatever and express your thoughts and express your funny. And they're going to pay to come see you there too. So that's why. That's why I'm going to monetize your funny. That's another way. Could you be a comedian without performing on stage? Yeah, this is not a stand-up comedian. I think stand-up literally mean you on stage. I feel like if you're a comedian, you perform on stage. You're not a comedian unless you do stand-up. But you know what, to keep it a buck a lot of people like, you know, look at you like you only a comedian if you're in movies too, right? No, you're not an actor until you're in movies. You're not a superstar until you're in movies. Exactly. So people who don't know like stand-up comedy or know like the like, for instance, you know, like Lewis posts like, you know, at Sunny Bowl or Lewis posts like certain shit on his page and stuff like that. But they don't know Lewis as this stand-up comedian. You know what I mean? A lot of the fans because they not going but now if they seen Lewis Bell in this movie then Lewis Bell is a comedian. You know, and that's how I was introduced to like comedians by way of movies. Like Martin and Jamie Foxx and stuff like that. But they were comedians. I know, but then I knew them as actors before I knew them as what's on it. So I knew them. They go hand in hand. Yeah, no, of course. It's like they're comedians that act like one thing I realized is like, I always been a comedian but I just jumped into the acting world. For instance, like I did a lot of sketches but I still was performing stand-up comedy. But I didn't consider myself an actor until I really became in the acting world. Yeah. Like I felt like it was just promotion for my comedy. Yeah. Skits. Let me ask you this, as a comedian you say you own your comedian if you're on stage. Yes. I promise I used to do the same thing. And it's still, I'm not saying it's not true. I mean, if you look up the word comedian what do you call someone that's funny as hell makes people laugh and what do you call them? An actor. A comedian. Okay. That's a comedian. Is Terry Crews a comedian or he's an actor? I hear you. I hear you on that too. Is Vince Vaughn just an actor? Or is it, are some people, some people call him a comedic actor. Will Smith was a comedic actor on Fresh Prince of Bel Air. I'm like Will Ferrell. He is an actor. But I still think they're comedians though. They're not doing stand-up and shit like that but you can still be a comedian and not do stand-up. Can you be a boxer and not get in the ring? You know how to fight. Yeah. Kind of. No. Because the sport is boxing. Yeah, exactly. Outside of the ring you just fighting. Yeah. And so you're a fighter. What's the difference between a comedian and a person that's being funny on videos? I think a comedian is, well we have to look it up. I'm gonna look it up right now. Because if I say a comedian doesn't mean, I believe, now believe me, I'm okay with saying you're in a comedian if you don't say it. I'm cool with that. I ain't going to get you on that. But I'm curious to comedian by definition. What y'all think? Yeah, but on movies you're reading a script. Versus stand-up, you ain't reading no damn script. But you could be. Not all the time. You can. Yeah. An entertainer whose act is designed to make an audience laugh. Because even as a stand-up it's still a laugh. An audience laugh. I know it's still an act though. You're putting on an act as a comedian regardless. Even if you're up on stage in front of a camera. Here's the thing. You're putting on an act. You're putting on an act. The acting. You're an actor. So like me, I'm funny on a regular day-to-day, right? But then I can't get up on this fucking stage and be like this and be that. Because you're not a comedian. You a nigga that's funny. But I know. I know. So that means you have to get up on the stage and act. You have to act your funny out. If you can't act your funny out, then you're not a comedian? Nah. I get what you're saying. I think as a comedian, based off that, it doesn't say you have to be on stage, but they use words like act. Exactly. They use words like, but act can be like your comedy act. Yeah, your comedy act. Because honestly- Because honestly- And also that stuff like audience. You know what I'm saying? Audience means usually live. So. Yeah, but your audience- That's what I'm saying. But your- I think you're a comedic actor if you're a fresh Prince of Bel Air, but if you are a actual funny on stage telling jokes- You're a comedian. You're a comedian. Okay, I get what you're saying. Comedic actor. It's still comedy, but it's comedic actor, and it's comedian. I think comedian is the profession of telling jokes on stage to an audience. Yeah. I believe that too. Because what maybe wanna ask you is because you have a, like all the people that became famous on social media, we're the first generation of this. Nobody ever got famous on the internet before us. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I've been talking to a lot of people in the generation, my generation and under, and it's just, that's the topic. And I'm like, bruh, niggas ain't comedians, bruh. You're a comedian actor. And you can't perform it. Yeah, because all the successful people we name that's funny, that's actors, they say they're not comedians. I talked to Ted Cruz in real life. He said, I'm not a comedian. You ask Will Smith if you're a comedian, he gon' say no. So it's just people that's not successful in acting that's saying they're a comedian. You're only saying that because you're not successful as an actor or you're not successful as a comedian. He's just saying shit. Yeah, he's just saying shit. Yeah, so yeah, a lot of times people say these days, it's just comedian and they bio and they do funny sketches. Right, yeah. They ain't never been on stage before in their life. You know what I'm saying? But when you talk to actors, and they go, I talked to Melvin Greg and them, I'm an actor. And I had walked into that world, I didn't read scripts with Melvin and all them. I'm like, boy, y'all really actors. Nah, for real. I'm in they, I be feeling like I'm in they world and I be like really be dependent on them. Like, hey, how you think I should come out of this? Or how should I read this? Should I use my humor here? I'm coaching. But they come to my shows, they be like, bro, I cannot do that. It's a way different muscle. It's a different muscle, it's a different muscle, man. You compare kickboxing to boxing. Right. Or whatever. You kickboxing to slap boxing. Or boxing to like foot racing and stuff like that. Yeah, some others. It's different. A lot of times, a lot of comics, a lot of times actors will get on stage. One thing actors have that non comedians that become comedians don't have. I can't speak for every comedian, but when nigga, I was nervous as fuck when I got on stage. When I first started, you know what I'm saying? I wasn't a seasoned actor. I wasn't even an actor yet. I was a young nigga that's trying to start doing comedy, right? And I got on stage, you couldn't tell I was nervous. Unless you paid attention to me, I was always fucking with my pocket and shit, fucking with the mic, the mic stand and shit. But I wasn't stuttering or fucking up. But I was like, nervous up there or more anxious than anything. I had never done it before. So I was trying to get my fucking, trying to be comfortable. Actors, they get on stage, they're not nervous at all. They're so used to performing. They ain't funny yet though. Most of them don't be funny at all. Yeah. They be getting no laughs. You gotta go shit by the lines. For 10 minutes, they got 10 minutes, they gonna do that full 10. Yep. That's why T.I. was able to start and be good. Not like, he didn't start off being good. But he started off comfortable. That's what you gotta be first. Because he know how to act. Before you, and he know how to perform, he been on stage. He know how to perform. He been on stages this as many times as comedians have. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? In front of fucking an amphitheater full of people. Yeah. And T.I. has an actor too. So he's not gonna do live performance and acting. So him getting in front of 300 people at the comedy club, like, how y'all doing, man? He already know, he's already won too. Right. He's not gonna be stupid. He's not gonna be dumb. At the end of the day, he's a multi-millionaire. That helps a lot too. He's a fucking urban legend. That helps a lot too. That helps with albums. Yeah. If you get past the nerves, like, my first time acting, I was definitely nervous. But then, I was drunk the night before. Like, partying and all some shit. I didn't take it as serious. I'm like, I got this shit, right? But then, because I knew, like, I'm good. I'm a people's person, okay? And I'm trying to figure this shit out. You know, I was on, I Love New York. And, but before going on, like, I Love New York, right? I didn't know what a set looked like. Nick, you got cameras over here. And then it's like, hold on. Like, how do you do, you know what I mean? I be feeling like an amateur when I be acting. Like, because you don't get your last fast. Yeah. It's like, even if you say it's not working. Why you shooting everybody quiet. And you don't know if it's working. Once you're seen over, everybody laughs. That was a good job. So, when I'm acting, I'm thinking I'm doing bad because nobody laughing. And they just looking at me. Then the camera's cutting at me. Oh! I thought, oh, I thought, I fucked this shit up. You thought you bombin' right in the hell. Yeah! But the comedy, you get gratification right away. Yeah, it's gratification. And with acting comedy, you don't know. Cause the goal is to be quiet while you acting. Yeah. And then you get the last afterwards. And you get the other last when you see the final product. You be like, oh shit. And you be like, when I seen myself, when I was on house party and I was just like, that was my first time ever being ner- I do it even when I'm on TV. Oh, it's always nerve-wracking seeing myself on TV. Yeah, of course. Yeah. And I'm criticising. That's normal, nigga. Even on stage. Watching myself be like, oh, okay, here we go. Here we go. I'm watching myself. But now I'm used to it. I've been doing this for so long. At the beginning, my nigga, I used to hate hearing my voice, bro. All that shit, you know what I'm saying? But now I'm used to it. Really continued. And I don't give a fuck now. If I don't, if I bomb, I'll tell a joke that I've been killing. If I'm on tour, you do a joke that's killing fucking two, three, four, five sets in a row. And that third, that fifth night. Yeah, it don't hit. It don't hit, it don't hit. Yeah, you be like, I'ma tap a nigga. Or you just deliver it to that tough crowd. I don't believe in tough crowds. Tough crowds, yes. It's a real thing. It's tough crowds. Yeah, but I don't believe in all the niggas in the lab. I'm funny, nigga. You wasn't funny to them. Yeah, exactly. You weren't funny to them, nigga. I'll be like, I'm funny. Fuck them. Nah, I get that. I get that, nigga. I'm ready to double back. Let me go back. I'm with that. I'm with that. Because I know I'm him. Yeah, no, don't get it twisted, nigga. Them don't know I'm him. I'm talking about it. Yeah, y'all must be sleeping as motherfuckers. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Y'all got attitude and some shit. I'm getting them to get some pussy. That shit happening to me, nigga. And the same night, nigga. I did two shows, the first show, smack that bitch around. The second show, my other niggas that opened up for me, not opened up for me, but then the comments that went before me, they was doing well. I'm headline, I come out there, I do my shit. They came to see me. And they laughing, but they giggling. Yeah. And they like the first show. So to me, nigga, if I'm hard on myself, nigga, I bomb, nigga. On my own motherfucking show. Me too. You know what I'm saying? The same nigga that went laughing is like I wanted them to, was at the end of the show standing up laughing and clapping and shouting, y'all, y'all fuck all that. Y'all shoulda gave me the laughs when I said the jokes, nigga. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? What the fuck you doing, nigga? Yeah. Yeah, but nah, man, that shit is hard whether on camera or on stage, but I do notice when I do get the homies that do comedy, not all of them. Some people, when they like, oh, let me, let me get some shit. All right, fuck, I got you. They got that camera pop on, nigga say action. They be like, damn, I forgot my shit. Yeah. Ah, it happens. It happens. Y'all remember those lies. But as a comment, I tell them all the comments. Maybe four take stops. I mean, this ain't shit compared to what you, right. This ain't shit compared to what you be doing on that stage, bro. I know I be there. I've been doing this shit for 12 years. Nigga, if you can conquer that stage, bro, which is the hardest art form, the hardest live performance, in my opinion. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? That's that stand up shit, bro. But then on camera, you get nervous when the cameras get on you. I get that, bro. But check that shit off, I can do it on stage, bro. And the beauty of it, you can do it over, over and over and over again. Take one, take two, take three. It matters what level of production it is because. Yeah, and if you ain't the lead, you can, yeah, nigga, if I happen, nigga, it happens to me. You got about three takes to figure it out. Yeah, if you happen, nigga, it did, bro. Shout out to Family Reunion on Netflix, bro. They made me feel like they didn't care. Yeah. But I'm so used to being on my own set, and it's easy when you're directing yourself. Exactly. But when you got somebody else directing you, and you gotta give them what they want from you. Yeah. And you gotta remember your lines, and there's a scene where. They're saying some crazy shit. The scene for me was this fucked up because my scene is I gotta walk across the room in the sitcom, sit down and keep the same line, have a sip of the drink, and then the wife comes over to, and then I gotta say my lines while he walks over and I fuck up. We gotta reverse all the way back to the one. To the one. And do it all over again. So it's not like I'm on camera and I fucked the line up and I say it right, or I can say it again or cool. Say it again. Say it three times cool. Now, we gotta start from the start. Everybody gotta do their job over again. You fuckin' know. But I'm fuckin' up. I'm out to lead, then I'm gonna get started. Yes. That shit is nerve wracking. I apologize. I hate it when I'm in school. It feel like school. Like, all right. He's no time to read. It's like, hold on nigga, let me, this is a big ass paragraph. It's really up to the director to really make you shit. I'm flowing the patent, the whole shit down. It makes you feel like shit. I be feeling like shit. I'm like, god damn. And that's why, that's why, that's why it's important to have a good director, right? I mean, I watch the masterclass of fucking, why am I, why am I forgetting this? It's a brain for, yeah. I'm having a brain for, oh Howard. Nah, nah, fuckin' Black and white. Spike Lee. And I got so much game from it, right? So three takes, like you want to make sure to stay on budget. I'm thinking, you know. The time is money. The time is money too. But you can always give somebody three takes, but it's really about the comfortability, making that person comfortable to fuck up the first time, to maybe even fuck up the second time a little bit, but to execute it on the third. Like, nigga, when I did a movie called Deadlock, right? I'm acting with Bruce motherfucking Willis. Nigga, my nerves is fucking bad. Like on some shit, right? And the director, you know, he wasn't directing me. Like, and I gotta go directly to these lines, but I'm really like, I will say something different or act a little bit different, but I don't want to fuck up, you know what I mean? And then they'd be like, you know, on some shit like, oh well, never call him again. Right, acting is a real business, bruh. It is, it is. Like, nigga, walk in at like, I didn't, I didn't, people are like, okay, this acting is a business, bruh. Cause it's like, you can't walk in and be like, oh, I got it off. Bruh, people in that motherfucking really mean and in their rooms, reach and then people be, okay, I'm ready. Say they see why, oh, okay, love me, yeah. And everybody there is on the clock. Everybody in there, it's like a production, nigga. That's, yeah, it's production. Ain't no favors in that motherfucking. Yeah. Nigga's in for a reason. You gonna be treated like a star cause you got, you know, you do your makeup and they got clothes. They don't treat you, they don't treat you great. But nigga, you gotta perform like a star. Yeah, yeah. You gotta do your motherfucking thing. We done did this nigga makeup now, this nigga forgetting this way. Fuck you, fuck you, man. And the rehearsal, nigga, you was fucking Johnny Depp, nigga. Yeah, nigga, you forgetting shit now? Action, nigga. Oh, can you pass me the line, please? Yeah. Right? Nigga, it's quiet as fuck. Ain't no, it's okay, it's all right. Nah, nigga, they'll be like, he's just quiet. The director come over like, hey, man. What's your mom? I hate those talks, nigga. I don't get them often. I don't get them often. Oh, I'm doing okay, they fuckin' with me. One time you get a, hey, Lewis. You all right, man. See, my dumb ass, I be getting no sense and I be like, turning to an actor. Like, man, you gotta, yeah, calm down. The director be like, be yourself. Be you. Yeah, I'm gonna be like, that's true, if I do good, if I be on that motherfucking. So, Tom, what's your name? You know what I'm saying? No, what's your name? Be yourself, I'm saying, what's your name? We a good job, I don't get it. That's what they're for, bro. I'll get into you, some niggas see you on stage, be like, oh yeah, we can use this guy. This nigga could work. I tell you, you get it, don't change that up. Don't change that up. This nigga, he's gonna be huge. Nah, he's a star, bro. For sure, this nigga's a star. Like, incidentally, and I tell him, I try to direct him to focus on that more, but you know, he gotta stand up. He gotta stand up. I love that shit, but I ain't gonna lie. You supposed to. I'm really, that's why. You're doing it the right way. Once you get that first joint joint, it's gonna, everybody gonna want you, bro. Everybody gonna want you. Ask Mike. Yup, for sure. Ask Mike. So, because even Kevin Hart said in his second run, his first run, he was a young nigga, like 27 years old, 24 years old, my dad, he booked a pilot, he did a pilot, and he kinda stopped fucking with comedy for some years, and then he went broke. And then he went, man, I gotta come back to comedy and they don't really know me now. It's been two, three, four years. I gotta kind of regain all the love I got. And now he's a movie star and he's a fucking comedy star too, stand up. But he said, I'll never turn my back on comedy. So you, not saying, don't focus on comedy cause that's just gonna pay your bills and keep you sharp. But nigga, he was a star too, nigga. That's what I'm saying. You gotta get you an agent and you already have one. You tap in with a big guy. No, I'm not acting niggas cause I'm like, man, I gotta really be in a space more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause I enjoyed myself. I like acting a lot. Yeah, it's dope, man. You good at it. 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