 So I want to take you back to the people at home who may be watching this and now they've gone through a journey where they've understood the value of knowledge, the people of knowledge, they want to now start seeking this knowledge and you mentioned at the start that the advice that you'd give them is to have high aspiration and to come with sincerity across. What about and I know you've done many series and many lectures on this and I'm sure people can search on our channel for lectures you've done in the past but the methodology that someone should take in or the practical methodology that someone can take in the 21st century to seek knowledge. You know these questions they're very beneficial but sometimes it gives the impression to the listeners and it gives sometimes even to the person who's talking that you know I've reached the end, I've got knowledge and mastered it and I'm now talking to you guys this is how I did it this is how you guys can do it and that's not the case I myself admit and I put my hand up and I can consider myself to be the most lowest of low when it comes to knowledge and I haven't got much understanding of the but I'm only mentioning what I read from the statements of the ulama what they say in their work so it's it's not my personal way it's not me. The scholars they mentioned two things are required from a person who comes to seek knowledge this is what the ulama say. The first thing they say is that the person has to have the characteristics that the student needs to adorn himself with. There's qualities that you have to have, Iqlas, Sabar. Sabar if you're not patient you're not going to attain knowledge. Whatever you're trying to do if you don't have patrons you're not going to attain anything. There's hidden forbearance. It's a siddk in the order of knowledge. Siddk means that the person knows when he does seek knowledge he doesn't mix up seeking knowledge with other things. Knowledge is big. You have to give it your full attention otherwise it's going to be very difficult. Those are some of the qualities that you need to come with. Because Allah this is Allah's religion when you see that you've acted upon what he's given you he's going to give you more. Subhanahu wa ta'ala. Also to take it by pain. So these are some of the qualities that the person needs to adorn himself with. Now we go into the characteristics or the manhajiyat for ta'ala bida'in and the second part is the methodology to seek knowledge. So this first one I mentioned which is a characteristic that you should come with is the one that a lot of us I myself included we kind of dismiss and push to the side. And when we were thinking about seeking knowledge we just want to jump into the books and the teacher tells me about misa'il and that's not. It's like it's like that it reminds me of you know when people go to the gym and they say that your diet is such a big part of one's gym but nobody cares about the diet they just want to pump the weights and think this is it. Subhanahu wa ta'ala. It's like that. It's so true. They say that a good outcome in the gym is made in the kitchen. That's in the kitchen that's what you eat. So yeah people don't want to take that step and they feel like they come to and again when you come to the gym and you see the guy who's big and strong and he's got six packs on his ears you look at him and you start to think yourself that's how I want to be. So this is the guy you know I want to look like this. If you ask the guy how long have you been 40 years 10 years 5 years so he worked he took time and he started at the small section. He started with the small 5kg one and then he made his way to the 30kg. I remember Subhanahu wa ta'ala when I was in the gym and I was doing 5kg small stuff and a guy came in and he looked around and he was like I don't want to sign up for this gym. I overheard him and then yeah yeah yeah so I don't want to sign up for this gym. He goes my weights are not here. The gym hasn't even gone. The gym doesn't have it. So but he started from somewhere. Yeah you know I started from somewhere. So the person has to understand that there is a methodology when it comes to seeking knowledge. You can't just open a book and read from the middle page or rip a page out and think oh I'm just going to read this one script I have. That's how some people see it. You have to start from the middle. The scholars they say if you're prevented from the beginner books the small books you're prevented from the big books. I Subhanahu wa ta'ala remember at one point in my life some of the Mashaikh and the some of them will go to book fairs. They'll go to Makkatib and guess what they would buy small Moutoon books just to put in their pockets and today Subhanahu wa ta'ala we think a student of knowledge is the one who's got trolley and he's putting all the books inside the trolley and he's got a big Makkataba. It doesn't necessarily mean that this person is a grounded student of knowledge. It doesn't really show much. The best person you see is Allah. When you look at a student of knowledge and you see an Aalim you realize the small things when you ask him and the big things when you ask him he doesn't say. Like some people they talk about big things when you ask him big stuff. It shows that it's a big gap and it does affect your your your your your your your general knowledge. So start small. It's not a race. No one's wanting to race. You don't have to start the path properly and make your way slowly to the road or to any and also get a sheikh a person of knowledge a person who understands it and and don't know that you can't do by yourself. I mean seeking knowledge from a book just merely a book without a sheikh is like giving a person a new driver a key to describe the contract. He's going to kill himself. He's going to hit a wall. He's going to you know if you want to learn how to drive first you have to drive in classes and then you learn how the car works. This is the steering wheel. This is how it works. There's a clutch. There's a brake. There's acceleration. There's the mirror, the manoeuvre, what happened to any bit by bit. Teacher has to show you all of this. If you just jump into the car and say hey everybody drives. I've got four legs. I've got four hands. I've got eyes. I've got ears. I can hear. It's the stereo. Is this what they grab? Okay let me grab it. You want to know the signs of the road. You want to know how to go about issues. Same with the knowledge and I know it shocks me that people don't tend to understand that. They don't understand that. Same with almost every science I thought you'd say like there's a lot of history here. I know. So you have to always try to take that methodology. The methodology inshallah we've mentioned it in great details in the PDFs that I have to put together. Also videos that we've done. I think there's a series that we've done on this channel called practical steps to seeking knowledge. There's a few there's a few different playlists that we've got on seeking knowledge. People can find that inshallah. I think the other thing that just to add on what you mentioned about the road being long. There's a beautiful statement from Sheikh Khilavani which I'm sure you can say that how the path is long. We move across it so slowly. But the goal is not to reach the end of the path is to die upon it. And that's true. That's a very strong reminder for many people who might be struggling at this moment in time trying to progress with studies. And even over the years of my life, subhanAllah there are things I thought I would never be able to learn. Not that this is not for me. And I came back to it and read about it, studied it, learned through the truth, asked them questions. And finally, you know, became a bit good about a little bit good in it. And so don't ever belittle your own efforts. And don't ever think to yourself that I can't do this. I can't struggle. That's it. It's good. You know, it's those. What I can say is that, for example, it's practical stuff that people can understand. For example, when you go to the gym, and I don't know, it's gym, people don't think I'm Jim Buffett. I go to the gym and stuff like that. I wish. But when you go to the gym and your muscles hurt you and you go home that night, and your muscles hurt you to get up in the morning to go work and to go in the next day to the gym again, work another part of your body, having the mindset that you need to come in. Yeah. Just keep doing it. That's the same thing when it comes to study with them. You hit a wall, you think, Oh, I can't do it. I can't. I'm not seeing any changes. Don't worry. Go on. Go on. Keep doing it. One or two. If you learn it, you memorize one or two ayahs of Quran, you go through. If you don't have the shuyukh in your land, you know the Arabic language, go online, just take download the video, the audio, and listen to it. Any shkalat that comes asked, seeing your brothers in you in the land, your brother said this, I listened to his son, he said this, I don't understand what does he mean by it. Of course, I think what puts off a lot of people as well is that they feel like they can't see the progress on themselves. So it kind of like, it makes them give up. But it's one of those, like anything really that because you're living it and you're seeing yourself day in day out, you can't see the progress you made. But it's like, again, to bring it back to the gym example. Obviously, there's another example. Alhamdulillah, I recently blessed us with a baby daughter, people who saw my daughter when she was born and then saw her six weeks later. She's changed so much. Well, but to us, we see it every day doesn't look like the progress. Same with the guy in the gym. You see him three years apart. You're like, wow, you'll be putting us on work in the gym. But for him, it's just every day he sees himself that he doesn't really realize that he's actually making a lot of progress. I think a lot of people seeking knowledge would kind of make some give up. They think, I'm not getting anywhere, but they actually are.