 You're welcome back. Liberal Party has condemned the invasion and occupation of party secretaries, including Tugs and unauthorized policemen drafted from the government house and also ahead of the IMO State Governorship Election Schedule for November 11. The Liberal Party has also been under fire for fixing the price of its expression of interest and nomination forms at 25 million, a whopping 25 million. While joining us to discuss the crisis at the national level and also preparations for the primaries in IMO State is retired Colonel Chinyere, or B, Liberal Party Chieftain. And we're hoping also to be joined by Chinyedu Amadi, Liberal Party governorship aspirant in IMO State. Thank you very much, Colonel, for joining us on the program. Thank you very much. Okay. Let's just begin from the national scene. There is a Lamidia Papa who is insisting that he is the authentic or the acting chairman of Liberal Party right now. Is that a consensus decision that gave him that position or he's just arrogating powers to himself? He addressed a negative power point, so nobody gave him any power. So what's happening at the national level now? Who is leading Liberal Party right now? It's supposed to be a bully, but the people now came and brought thugs, and then when they brought thugs, if they were bullied, he would find his way through the battle. Because the way they came, they are coming to destroy, they are not coming for peace. Because when they came in, they went upstairs and started shouting, level, level, level. I don't know why it's level, there's GDP, there's ABCA, but why level? Everybody is out for level. It wasn't like this before, but immediately they saw that PTOB is their headache. Everybody is attacking level now, which is not supposed to be like that. It has been peace, peace, peace. Like the president to be PTOB, he said everybody should be calm, like they said let's move to courts. And we are right in courts. So I don't still see why they are fighting us, why we are still in courts. I don't see the reason why they should come to level headquarters. Only God knows who sent them. But they are not one of the laborers, and they are not one of the Obedan's. So I don't know where they are coming from. Okay. Only God knows. Before now, you were supporting a PDP candidate in the 2019 general elections, and now you are laborer. What changed? When I supported PDP, that's article, I worked with 36 states with article and PTOB. I was going to prison, prison, I played football for him, I know how much I spent. But when I saw that there is nothing coming out of PDP, and I was there that very day they paid 100 million for each ticket PDP that time. But when I see there is nothing coming out of, I didn't say anything that will come out of PDP and article. Because it always do, when anything they happen, he will not go back to Dubai and forget about us. Even when we went to Supreme Court, I was there shouting, we need our mandate. We went to her eye-neck and shouted, but the person we are fighting for does not care about the promises. So that's why, and when I saw that PDP as the captain, I followed him to the cap as well. Okay. I understand that we're being joined by Honorable Chinadu Amadi, a Labor Party governorship as parent. Honorable Amadi, good evening and welcome to the program. Good evening. Thank you for having me on your program. Okay. A Labor Party in a most state, first of all, the expression of interest form is very, very high, hoping 25 million we hear. What informed that, first of all, and how are the people taking it? Is that a question for me? Yes. It's for you, Honorable Amadi. You are in the race. I'm sure that you spent that much. How are the people taking it? I think the matter has been resolved, and Labor as a listening party has actually moved on from that form and pricing, you know, it was reviewed downwards to 15 million, and that matter is done on dealt with. So we're now on course with the primaries for Labor Party. And how many of you are standing in for this position, running these primaries to get the ticket to contest as Labor governorship candidates? I didn't hear you clearly. How many of you are the contenders under Labor Party? We are 16, presently we are 15, who lost one of the aspirants, but it's our home for animal doom. They are so raised in peace, and so we are 15 on the cause. Okay. Let me go back to Koro. You said that you left the PDP because you didn't see anything coming out of PDP. You are now in Labor because the prospects are higher and all that. But you are in a state where the incumbent is APC, and he also is qualified to stand again to run for governorship. What are the chances of Labor Party in a state like emo state? We already know that emo state, you know, before we got the governor that is sitting right now, we still do not understand how it went. What do you think will happen? How do you think Labor Party will fare in that state emo state? Yeah, in this emo state, I have been here for complete six months now that I came back to emo state from Abuja. And what I'm seeing in emo state, the war is no more politics, it's now war. And the war in emo state now has become survival of the fittest. And then what I'm saying at my age, by June 16th of the 74 years, I'm not seeing anything in Labor because the way they are looking at this is no more politics. It's no more let me come in and say, even when they are fighting a battle that is either we win or we fight, it's a war. But let them remember, I'm asking their parents that they are coming to fight somebody who said that it will be over my dead body for somebody to take that seat. And me and you know the way he came in last time, from fourth position to governorship. And what I'm saying now that somebody who can fight him, that is General Jack Ogilewe, nobody else. Because this is the man that is a general in the army and retired. I'm not praising him because I'm a colonel. I'm praising him because I just met him once at the airport and I know what is capable of doing. And I know he's the only one that can fight this fight. And at least if he comes in, he has already, and the present governments are shaking now that is a general in the army that is going to fight this fight. And then we can have peace in our way, but we don't have peace now or what we have here. And we have a new state anyway. If you go to the secret, you will know. These people will come and say they are the new one. They will go to court and put court in junction. And the next one will come and say they are the old one. This is politics. This is not where we are in the army. This is not where you are fighting a war, a Kuma war. And fighting a war is either one out of these 15, he's saying it's only one person that will march for delegates and it's only one person that will fight. It's a good thing that Honorable Amadi is here. Honorable Amadi, she has just said she throws in her cup for the general. But you are in the race as well. What are you bringing to the table that you think will mark you out? Will stand you out among your pairs? Oh, thank you for the question. I will start by trying to address some of the positions of the, oh, sorry. You see one of the problems of Nigeria, light goes off your arm. Can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you. Go ahead. So address the question about insecurity, that's one area that needs to be properly addressed when it comes to governance in the states. So right now she pointed out the way the incumbent came into power is of course a challenge and that has agitated the spirit of the immolates. They've never found it comfortable within themselves to see such a thing happen in the state. And that is one of the factors that is triggering the insecurity issue in the state. Now, that coupled with the high rate of unemployment in the states on record, you would know that the state has the highest unemployment rate in Nigeria with a thriving population, nearly three million. That is a time bomb on its own. So, but I want us to look at emo states and we see a smaller model of Nigeria in emo. We shared similarities with emo, the problems in Andreas is similar to those of emo. We look at insecurity that is ravaging the country. And of course we have the general as the president of the country and yet we couldn't solve the problem of insecurity. So now, similar to emo states, if we want to solve the problem first, we have to give the people demanded the kind of government that they want. That will give them peace of mind. And I tell you, I give you assurance that the moment you do that, you would have about 50% of these tensions going on in the state disappear and the rest will be on how to deal with the insecurity itself, the remaining part of it. And that has to do with revamping the economy, reviving the economy, creating and employments, you know, going back to the farmlands, creating a great industries, creating manufacturing industries, getting the youths busy. They say the idle mind is a devil's workshop. The youths have not engaged and said the negative biases because there's nothing to do. So, the core of emo states lies more in the economy, rather also looking at insecurity, the bad part of that insecurity is first the injustice, then secondly the high rate of unemployment. You deal with these two things, you will have emo states on proper cover. Then you will now follow up with intelligence monitoring. I tell you with two drones in the forest of Osu, East and West, you have a security center, you can monitor the activities and begin to address them or mobilize your security agencies properly to go, not to go in blindly, because it's when they go in blindly that innocent souls are taken up on courses, more grievances in the society. So, that is the problem of emo states. And I think it has nothing to do with being a general. And if you want to look at examples worldwide, we can take Ukraine and Russia and we see a president who used to be a comedian who is now fighting the war with Russia and doing so very well with it. And lastly, I would say that once you become a governor or a head of state, you become a general yourself because the security agencies line up with you. So I don't believe in the fact that the incumbent is a lion. I think that is an over description. We need to properly align things and look at security from the point of intelligence monitoring, putting innovation and technology into security issues and addressing it properly, then creating a viable economy for emo state. And that is a real point we have to focus on. Once we get that done, emo state will get back on course. And I think with my exposure first, my exposure walking in the oil industry, running various ventures, real estate, IT, farms and also running heading an organization that looks at capacity being for youth and women. I know that I have all the qualities. I'm already looking at the vision of emo for the next 40 years. Where do we want to get infrastructure to? Right now we're sitting on an infrastructure that is 40 years old. It's being beat by Dr. Samu Mbappe. We need to get him ready for another 40 years. And that's where we're going. I'm youthful and energetic. I think out of the box I'm very analytical. Thank you very much. Let me ask you a question. Just a moment. I know that the contenders may be up to 16, like you have said. And whoever emerges after the primaries, I know all of you will queue behind that person. The contenders include also the immediate past chairperson of International Federation of Women, Lawyers, Association, FEDA, emo state, indeed, Vale Keoma. And so many other people. But the issue here is that if somebody emerges, and you are going into the election, there are two opposing forces against you that will be working against you. The incumbent, who is APC. We also have PDP, which is likely to have a consensus candidate. Remember that Ihe Doha, Mekai Ihe Doha, who was the governor for a time and now left because of the Supreme Court ruling. Now someone else who is sitting there has said that he's no longer contesting. So it seems they are going to have a consensus, maybe in the person of Senator Samuel Anyahu, who is the national secretary of the People's Democratic Party, PDP. So these two forces, a major opposition party in the country, having a consensus candidate, and then you're having the incumbent, who is of the APC. So does it not give you worry that Labour Party may come a distant third or fourth in the election? What do you think that you can do to make sure that it will turn in your favour? Let me start with you, Connell. Ask a party, what are the chances of Labour knowing these two other parties standing with you? I want to ask you a question. It's talking about security. Do we have security in human states? The answer is no. On the 18th, I was shot on my leg as they had the wound. I would come shot for House of Assembly in my own local cabinet. It doesn't matter. And I'm just asking a question. CHD, Honourable CHD, this condition must take need of security. Without security, let's see when they say sit at home. So many people were killed. When they said every Monday people should sit at home. Let's just try to wrap up, Connell. Let's just try to wrap up. We're concerned about the chances of Labour Party. I know that all this, you will iron them out when the primaries are over. But the chances of Labour Party, whoever emerges. This is the only person that can savage human states. Come for security. Come to, when you talk about security, this is the man that knows what is security all about. I'm a retired Connell. I know what is security is all about. We are security conscience. But here, human state has no security. And I believe that nobody can fight this man if he's not General Ogulewe. He's the only one that he did it in other states and I believe that he will do it in human states. Because he's the only people like they are bringing all the soldiers that is not even real. When you even tell them it's critical, they don't know what it is. At first they don't know what it is. Then it's only his own soldiers that will ask these questions. And we now flush all the soldiers that are coming up because it's going to be a war. It's unfortunate that we may not have time to deal with all the issues that we need to deal with. But we would just like to wish Labour Party good luck in the forthcoming elections. We do hope that you will put all differences aside. You will be able to elect someone at the primaries that can wrestle power as it were from the incumbent and from the major opposition party and form a new or give a new breath, fresh breath as they say to emo state. We do hope that that will happen. But if it doesn't happen, we do still hope that emo state will be the better for it, whatever outcome the election is going to give us. Thank you so much Honourable Chinadu Amadi for coming on the programme. We wish you luck as well. And also, Honourable Chinadu Amadi, Labour Party Chief 10, thank you so much for coming on the programme. Thank you very much. Thank you. Well, we'll be talking with the Chief 10s of Labour Party in emo state. One is an aspirant and the other one is a supporter of an aspirant. But both of them are Chief 10s of Labour Party and they're talking to us about what is going on in emo state and their hopes are high. We keep our fingers crossed, we see what comes out of that. But we pray for a better Nigeria and all the federating units of Nigeria. And that's how we're going to wrap it up on the show tonight. See you again tomorrow.