 This video is chopped and you say I'm chopping this thing up the way I want to. I'ma chop the screw this table because that's what I want to do. It's my time with my narrative. I let you play your game for a long time boy. I'ma do it my way. I want to understand first of all in that video when you done that why was it why was the anger? Did he say something to you? Because you was like the detectives already got it. The detectives already got it so they already know. You don't scare me boy. And what was the anger for? Because I've been, this happened in November. November the second. Yeah. Right so y'all know y'all just now seeing this. Yeah I remember and I remember somebody had told me that it was a video and I was like man damn it's a video of the fight because you heard about it but you didn't see none. And I'm the type of dude I'm like it ain't real unless I see it. So when I heard about it I was like man I wonder about the video. So you said November when I got the call you had that was a video. That was a video. Okay. But see didn't nobody know I had the video right? And then I didn't know it was another video on the other end because the dude on the other end at the other bar shop he got one on the outside of his wall. Is that where the other picture came from? That's where she was standing. Where the other shot from? The uh. Where his wife was standing in front of him. Oh that come from my phone. Okay. So what are you talking about? Nah nah nah I'm gonna tell you. Stop stop. Okay. Say baby now calm down. I tell you calm down you think I'm gonna fucking make fun. Okay that's another fun it's another video. It's another video. It's another video and nobody's seen again. You see I got another video and nobody's seen the word so this is where he kissed the case. You see you know what I'm saying this story really deep. Wow so there's it will that video come out or? You know I don't know man I might put it out. But okay so I might play with it. You know what I'm saying? It's time for me to have fun. You have fun on what's this now? Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. And I ain't been saying nothing and the reason why I didn't say nothing is because you you you you say this man hit you with a gunner right? Yeah that's what it was. What that man did that was so disrespectful because where I come from I at least would have tapped you. Hey I told you I was gonna catch you you know what I'm saying. I got you now or not hit a man while he's asleep. But the things that he said to a man. I'm coming to get you wherever I see you and as I talked with Kevin Spence he said I don't give a damn where he was Tray. He didn't care where he was. I don't care if he was at church I was gonna get him. You know so. That put me in the hell of a bind. That's what I and that's why I asked you like this was your business man. This is my business. And you and business this is a business this business been here for going on 18 years. Um altercations if they happen there I'm gonna feel very upset because this is a stable in this community. People know this store and they love this store and they shop here and they grew up shopping here. This is where people love to come like and so I was going to ask you that question like damn like this is your business. If you was how would you set somebody up at your business and you put all your money up like that preach. You say you're probably preachers. I do back to school. So I don't want that in my shop and I'm a felon right and I know his brother just come home from prison. He's done 31 years and for you to go and say it's a gun and you automatically endangering your brother. So I'm thinking trying to think for your brother. I'm trying to think for me. You you say he didn't with a gun now. Not just for real now everybody know now say if I don't say he say he didn't with a gun right. Just got attacked by Kevin Spencer asleep in the barber chair. Hit me upside here with a gun. And I don't say nothing. I don't say nothing. I just let him go along with that lot. He hit him with a gun. He know this man is a federal. He know all you gotta do is get caught with a gun. That's that's that's that's that's that's intensifying. So it's over. It's over. You already had a major case. Wow. So if I just let you say he hit him with a gun. And I don't say nothing. What kind of wrath you think gonna come down on me. That's real. That's real. I agree 100 percent. But what I wanted to get to because you see some people who watching may not have seen the video and stuff like that. So I really wanted you to walk me through this part. So you was cutting his hair. You were doing his hair right. Right. When this man when this man walked in and you saw when the man walked in while he was sleeping right you saw him coming. No. You didn't see him coming. Uh-uh. So when because you know when you walk through a business especially barbershop you hear ding. Right. There's normally barbershops you having a ding on the door. What you call when you got to come through a main door. So we got two ends of the door. My door where I said my church is right here and that's the door. So if he was carrying through this side of the building I would have seen him come to the door. So he came through another. He came from the back side of the building. So he come through the back. So my church is right here. And your back is never locked. Your back door is not locked. Because it's another barbershop on the other end. Okay. Right. It's a barbershop. It's a church down there and it's a her salon down there. So he came in from behind you. From behind me. So when he opened the door I don't recognize this kid. I just recognize a dude and me being a gentleman. I'm going to shake your hand because you're coming into my barbershop. But as this shake go he punches him. Yeah. And I'm like whoa. You know what I'm saying? And I say this Kevin White and this Charles is special. Oh my god. Yeah. This Charles is the White and Kevin special. I got to grab him. You see what I'm saying? But the brother back here too. What's the brother? He didn't come up? Yeah. His brother in there. What is his brother doing? That's his brother standing right there. That's his brother standing right there. I didn't know that. And what did his brother do? He didn't do nothing. He didn't do nothing. Yeah. Kevin White. My brother in there and seeing that and like you would want to do something to help your brother. That was Kevin White. See I didn't even know that. You just yeah. Oh my that was his brother standing there. That's his brother standing right there. But I ain't no lie. I take a look at that two ways. This man just done 31 years in prison. Don't want to get in trouble no more. You don't want to. You know how scared he probably was. You know how the thoughts that was going through his mind. So I kind of played. I was like the same thing. Get back. Don't you do nothing. You know what I'm saying? I didn't say Charles say get back. Don't do nothing. So he was in a... I want to help you. I want to... So Charles said that to him. His brother. But at the same time. Charles was asleep. Everything should have went out the door. But then put myself... Okay. Being the unbiased person that I am. Put myself in his position. I would be blaming you in some form of fact. Because somebody is asleep and unaware of what's going on. And you're in my head. I'm feeling that you are seeing my whole surrounding. So you should be the one tapping my shoulder. Something crazy coming up close to me. Am I doing dreams? Or am I trying to fade till her ain't good? I didn't know I was no security guard. I'm just saying... That's what I'm telling you. My job is to concentrate on your her and get this line. And have your ears just straight. Not looking around. Because everybody come through my door is important. You know what I'm saying? I ain't got no enemies coming through my door. I ain't got no beef coming through my door. If Charles came through my door he... I know he feels safe. Because that's why he went to sleep. But you know the type of person that he is. And you know that he has a lot of enemies. Because of the things that he says. Man, did Charles say he come on the couch with Trap Boy Freddy? Doing up on this podcast? Did he tell Trap Boy he gonna bust his house? He gonna do all this? And then you got him on your podcast and y'all buddies? I don't know what you got going on, friend. I don't know if you acting. I don't know what you got going on. So my thing, I'm just gonna cut her. You know what I'm saying? I ain't never... I've been... That's the first problem I ever had in my shop. That's the first problem I've ever had. The only other problem we had was the other barber got shot on the other end. But he got shot at the store. And he ran back down and I knew he wasn't gonna make it if he keep going. So I had him lay down in the parking lot. And prod pressure to him till the ambulance came. And that's why they say it's a high crime area, such and such. Cause it is. But if it's a high crime area and you got a barber shop over there and you got a mobile... Don't you think it's kind of like trying to re-gentify that area? Oh yeah, for sure. Don't you think somebody have charged the wife so into the community? Won't you think he's supposed to pull into that? Don't you think he ain't paid for no kids around? No other place? None of that. I fond of his brother when he come out. I've rocked him out the door from the prison. I got pictures from us in the barber shop inside the prison. To him doing my hair outside the prison. Do you think I tried to set him up? Wow. So, hold on. His wife was in there too, right? No, she wasn't. No, she wasn't. So where did she appear from? Because in the video, it's shown her... So after the commotion, it's almost over with, right? And she has a thing around her neck like she was getting her hair done. It's another salon upstairs. He don't even know his wife up there. You see this lady up there? How he don't know where his wife is? They doing what she doing. She doing what they doing. I don't know what they doing. I don't know what nobody... My wife don't know where I go. Hmm. So she was there, she just came down there, she's not. But she ran. She ran down there over there. Somebody ran there. Everybody ran down there. You can hear it. You can do, do, do, do, do, do, do. So you got people, it shops upstairs. So everybody here, so everybody come down the stairs. And she didn't know her husband was down there. No, when she ran and seen it's him, she automatically ran over to him and jumped in front of him. That's what threw me off because I was trying to figure out how he got the mop. But see as he thought... He got the mop and she in front of him. This time I'm wrestling with Kevin Spencer. He ain't got a mop. I'm trying to tell him, man, get in the closet, man. So you can come this day, I can get him out the door. You were trying to get Charlton to get in the closet. I'm trying to get his brother in here with him. But Charlton keep agitating the scene more. Bitch ass nigga. So as he grab a goddamn water, my spray bottle, and he gonna hit it. That's how you know he know it ain't no gun. What's that gonna do? Let's grab a bottle. What you gonna get somebody? You gonna get an alcohol bottle and try to hit somebody if they got a gun? No.