 Wel, rwy'n y toff i TV a'n joined in the studio by Danny and Kane who are part of The Originals here to have a chat. We had a couple of lads in last year from The Originals probably around the same time when we were trying to get the atmosphere going, I think it was ahead of the derby last year and funnily enough the lads are in ahead of the derby this year, but how are you? We're good, we're good. Obviously it's season ticket time, season ticket renewal and all of that and I go and email off the club last week telling me if I wanted to move into GT8 to be part of The Originals to fill in and register my interest below, which I thought was really interesting actually and I thought it was really good by the club trying to encourage this because I know there was some discussion last season that it was going to be a big, you know, area for fans and I don't think it's quite taken off even though there is fans in GT8. I've noticed a lot more of a presence on Twitter in the last couple of weeks about sending people to the right place and it seems like with the interactions that people are getting interested in it again. Like I said, we've basically just hit the reset button. So we've got two new people running on the social media and we just want it to look a bit more professional, trying to get more people involved, tweeting more for the start. To be honest, fans know where to go to sign up is another problem in the past. We just want all fans as many as possible to just get involved straight away and with the reset button we just want to get going straight away basically. Dany, Cain just said there and I think it's probably accurate. It's important to point people to the right places and it's great going to come and be part of The Originals or whatever. Now, like Cain just said, there's a form that you can fill in and that's something that you thought was important to be able to do. We needed a fresh start and a new way to sort of get people on board. I think in the past there was sort of miscommunication with fans all round, people having negative opinions about the group and I think having this form, obviously pointing people in the right direction, allowing people to see that would be more professional and getting rid of that sort of miscommunication and misunderstanding with fans. I hope we're trying to get basically just a bit of momentum building which started now just to get more people into the section for next year. I mean I think it's, the latter in last year I think it's great the way you started that group and you built it and stuff like that and there was, the atmosphere did massively improve for those, the last half of those. That was one of the best I've ever seen. This isn't the derby with the siren and things. I thought it was brilliant and there was a massive uptane in the fall teams of the team as well I think, the way they went back. To bore everyone, me and Perth went to Germany as we know last year and we witnessed like the atmosphere in Düsseldorf and we witnessed in Brussia Dortmund and it was incredible and then coming back I think we went to Shrewsbury because they have a rail seat and a safe standing thing and that's something we know the club are looking at rail seats for when we meet them. But before we talk about the future with Bramley Mo, it's important that we try to get gooderson, voice shifters and the atmosphere up at home isn't it? It is definitely, like you said about Germany, me and Danny ourselves we follow everything over and away and we've just seen so many great atmospheres in Europe, but even pre-season friendly, the fans abroad are just amazing compared to England. It's the culture in England, it's just personally not for me and I know other people might like it but that's up to them, we've got no problem with the people who don't really want to get involved but what we want to change is people who have four atmospheres to just all get together and be in one place at a time. The problem with gooderson is at the minute I think fans are all spread out and all. I was watching the video the other day about last year's original, staying on and I made a good point about fans at away games all being spread out and like the park and top off. We want to get everyone who wants to change the atmosphere in one small section and then go from there basically. You let's go home and away, so obviously when you go away there's normally 3,000 seats packed in a tight space and you see the gooderson away fans are dead noisy and often our fans will sit there quiet but when you let's go away it's exactly the same, I've seen people complain about. The other lot over there about the atmosphere for them away fans are loud, old traffic has been there a million times and it's always duty and away fans do so. I think you're absolutely right if you could get a section in gooderson where a lot of you are together, that would certainly help for me. One thing I always want to point out as well is the whole purpose of it obviously is building the atmosphere but it's not a restricted group either it's not just like one sort of age group or we want everybody in the whole stage we want 40,000 people minus the away fans to enjoy the atmosphere at gooderson. We want everyone who goes to watch everton to enjoy going to the match rather than just sitting there going, just sign all game and whatever. We want everyone to know that it's not as I say restricted it's for anybody, anyone, any age or gender or whatever. If anyone wants to join if they're all about the atmosphere then obviously that's how we want to promote the group a little bit now to get more people involved because obviously we've got three years left now, roughly two years at gooderson. Hyper as you don't want to spend the last three or four years give us a gooderson, sort of sitting there in silence in regards to what's going on on the pitch. Still want to go to enjoy the match in some respect and I think we need more people to get on board with it. Obviously if people are in the park end or main stand or whatever but want to get involved then I think it's a good sort of like building momentum now it's a good opportunity for people to move with the sort of season ticket being renewed. We've got that opportunity to transfer over and hopefully we can improve the atmosphere. I think, and that's a really important point, what Danny's just said there is that it's not to create an older group between 16 to 20 of lads who are in all that. Everyone to enjoy the match. Anyone to enjoy the game. You know what though, the message is really bad on Twitter. The people who are asking to bring the kids just to experience it. Sometimes I'd rather the kids get in there now and then they can grow with it and take it for years and years hopefully. Well that's the thing I mean again. In Dortmund as you know. I mean you had this conversation last week didn't you? In Dortmund to get onto the yellow walls great but they have a kids section for the kids to grow up to try to get onto the yellow wall in there. Which is mad like an academy for singers or something. It's a bit busy but I suppose you're right if you have a track kids into that area then they're going to grow with that atmosphere. And they're the future as well so we want them to sort of go to the game with that sort of mentality that you're not there to just sit there and sing so watch it like it's a TV programme. I mean obviously if people are happy to do that then that's fine everybody's different but we would like Goddison to have that sort of famous atmosphere back again rather than it being like a morgue. So obviously building into Bramleymore then obviously we want to be able to take that with us and give Bramleymore that identity straight away because you see sometimes as well like with new stadiums like teams moving to new stadiums like take Man City for example. I never got to go to main road but fans who I know and spoke to say like how good it was for atmosphere and stuff you've probably been. Well I mean the Etihad though you go there and it's just like there's nothing to it there's no character there's nothing whereas I think that could be us potentially even though regardless of how they build the ground. I think it could go that way whereas if at least we bring something with us organised and sort of ready to just like go bang straight away I think that could help the atmosphere in the new ground and get us going really quickly. I think Danny's spot on by the way because if we don't start now we're going to be waiting for a couple more years at Bramleymore and we don't want to go into a new stadium with the same flat atmosphere. No no. So. And it's difficult we see this with clubs who move stadiums that at first they're trying to get used to it. It's not really how they want it and a lot of clubs will struggle with that and hopefully we spoke to Dan Mice and the stadiums being designed to be on top of the players and the crowd and it looks like it's going to be fantastic and if we've got a ready made fan group in there who's ready to start. Because you said Dan people might go and want to sit there and just watch the match over ever but you know I sit in the upper bullhounds now you should be in the street and I'm in the upper bullhounds now and I like sitting and watching the game but the minute the crowd starts singing and people that are me will tell you that I'm probably a pain in the ars but I will start singing and stand up and getting involved. And so if we've got a group that kicks that atmosphere off people will join you. You know people will that's what it's about. It shouldn't always be something on the pitch to sort of make people react. I mean obviously that is where the natural atmosphere comes from and you can never get away from that but at the same time not even to the point of manufacturing an atmosphere but just trying to encourage it at least or trying to help towards it. And that's not even like saying that you need every single person that's going to be bouncing shouting and screaming. Just a little section even when you go abroad or even if you just watch a foreign match on the television just say you're Bundesliga match. They only have say a corner of the stadium singing but it sounds good there's an atmosphere there and there's something that you can build on. When I watch Bundesliga there's constant noise and I always think to myself say for example if I get on from the game and watch a match of the day and I'm watching the highlights and thinking to myself why is it this flat? Because if we add this small section give it a bit of noise and then like you said before the atmosphere can just help the players so much. You've seen it towards the end of last season. I mean you're going to go to an Orlando City game. One of the best atmospheres I've ever witnessed. Now being at Wembley with more than 100,000 it was incredible and you know when it was standing there but Orlando City's one of the best atmospheres I've ever seen. I didn't know they had a safe standing behind the wall it's called and they just bounce off of them but a large section of them aren't even looking at the game to just there to get it. And the atmosphere there is like you say of what's going on on the pitch there to have a good time. I remember going five years ago and it was there and the team and took me onto the wall and had me waving them on those flags you know one of the things. I was there all this for a minute and facing them all and they just bounce off of them for all three minutes and come and breathe sweating and everything and these people like that. Exactly so and that atmosphere is incredible and they've created an atmosphere that's not necessarily natural for them. There's a club that was formed in 2010, they only got an MLS in 2014. Now the atmosphere is incredible and I went last year and it wasn't sold out and yet the atmosphere was amazing and I can be a good person with 39,000 or 3000. At times it's good brother, at times you can hear the players and you're like... It's like small moments isn't it? Yes there's moments, but in the moments you get how noisy and you think oh my god how it can be. I just remember that like when Zed Caer started before Dabbi. With the Sarah and all the noise before the games. Probably the best Zed Caer ever I think. These are the memories you've got to take with you to Bramley Mawr because at the moment I'm thinking to myself I can't even count on one hand this season. I've got a good atmosphere. Chelsea maybe when Duncan's in charge is probably the best. That was probably the best because of what we needed and Duncan's celebrating. You mentioned Bramley Mawr there and obviously Everton and Dan Meiser designed the stadium with rail seating in mind. We've seen a big push lately with the rail seating Manchester United. I've really pushed him for it now and I think once they get it I think it's the end rolls then. I think everyone goes away in that. So we're hoping to create that at the front of the south stand and the blue wave and all of this thing. And hopefully that's where the Britons will be. So I mean how incredible will that be to that new stadium and have a section for... I just think that standing is so important to create atmosphere. It's so important. Like this season unfortunately we've had problems with the numbers for the start but we've been told to unfortunately sit down. But the point we're trying to make is we need to stand to create an atmosphere. It sounds funny when you're there but in the moment it's natural when you're standing up. Do you know what I mean? But I do think it's so important that, safe for example, we have this safe standing. If I had it my way and I'd have the safe standing in tomorrow, because this isn't a really word. Because it makes such a difference. You both experience rail seating or safe standing abroad. And it is safe the way it's designed. It's safe the furthest push you can have is one person when you have two to one. And that's it. The rails are there. So it is safe. And I think if you're right standing up makes that atmosphere incredible. I mean Danny peds off and said on this that he'd like everything to install some safe standing in the future before we move in. I know now in three years, not sure how much the cost and the way it's... I don't know what the tread depth is so whether he could do it but is that something you'd love in GT8? Definitely 100% yeah. Even if it was just in the park end, anywhere in the ground. I just think if we introduced it slowly, even with just one little section, I think it would just spread so much. The fans would want it even more. Because you look at the old days with terraces looking at footage of ourselves. We weren't alive for that but you can see the atmosphere. Just in footage from 70s matches, 80s matches, the atmosphere is just booming. You can see it and you can sort of feel it in a way when you're watching footage. You can see people swaying and moving forward a little bit when everything is going forward. Obviously you can't do that with rail seating and pushing forward and stuff. You'd still get that. But you'd still get that sort of... I think you'd get that a little bit more. I think people would be more animated. When you stand and you seem together but when you stand down you just feel like everyone is in their own little daydream. I just think with having a safe stand it would make a huge difference. I suppose for you guys now just to summarise, the big thing is to create momentum. You've got a number of years you went into GT8 last season. You've had a lot of interest, you've just said since you've pressed the reset button almost the other week and people are getting in touch with you now. And I suppose the idea then will be to build and build and build with it. Build a number so that you take a large number of it into the new stadium. We want to be a sort of more established group to the point where a lot of people will have heard about the group now. But we want to be at a point where we are established so when we do go to Browningmore not saying that we get a priority of where we want to sit in the ground. But we want a section somewhere in that ground where we can sort of say that's where we're going to be based and we want people to be involved so that, as I said earlier, everybody in the stadium can get involved. I look at Palace as an example not saying that I want to have drums and stuff like that. But in terms of them generating an atmosphere it's like they have just that 200 or however many they have behind the goal. But the first game of the season against us, whenever they went forward or got a corner you could only hear them singing but then whatever song they were singing, it spread. We know when something happened on the pitch and that's where the natural, when something natural on the pitch happens and that natural atmosphere, it does spread because there's already something going on there and it does spread and I was really impressed and I've never really noticed that before at Palace and I think when I tried to take more notes of it I could see that. That does, just having that little section does make a massive difference. You don't need to have it. I totally agree. You just need something to like the touch people, don't you? The big thing is to get people who are interested. This is your opportunity. We're going to put the link in the description below for the form, for the lads. There's also a website. We're just getting it started so there's not much content on it. It's theoriginal1878.com. That's where we're going to try and have updates as well. By the way, if anyone wants to get involved, tweet messages on Twitter and Dan's being active lately, we're trying so much to get people to sign this. This is something the club are interested in developing, isn't it? This isn't there you go. You're a season ticker older already. The chances are you've probably had an email in your inbox offering you the opportunity to move with the lads into GTA. This is something I think is massively important for the football club. I think to get behind this, create that atmosphere. We all want the same thing. We all want everything to win games. We want them to win games in the best atmosphere possible. If you feel like you want to go and get involved with the lads, go on the link below. Click the link below and sign up. Or like Kane said, message on Twitter. Get back to you and point you to where you need to go. I think it'd be brilliant. Listen, if we look at what happened last season, if we can get more of that and bigger numbers, then that atmosphere will be better and better. Then you play your part when you go to the game. You're not just going to observe. You're going to actually do something at the game. If you do your part, then the fingers can be pointed at the players because you're going in and doing your part. But it did help massively and I think it's massively important for everyone. Big thanks to the lads. Big thanks for coming in, Kane. I appreciate it. I can't support the boys. If you see them on Twitter, retweet their stuff and try and spread the way to as many as you can. Let me know what you think in the comments section below and you're going to join up with the boys with the blue wave. Let us know. Big thanks, like you say to the lads. See you later.