 I really want to talk about Killer Mike's speech. It's not even a speech, it was just his, like... That's Killer Mike being Killer Mike. Dude, we've been longtime Killer Mike fans here. You've been like an amazing celebrator of Killer Mike. He's one of my favorite rappers of all time. Top five, top seven favorite rappers of all time. And the only reason I say top seven is because I have a top seven. But he's one of my favorite rappers of all time. He's just a great human being. First met Killer Mike in 2003, maybe 0203. I don't remember, back in Columbia, so I can lie on a hot 103.9. And I just remember the first time I ever met him because he was with Big Boy and he was doing the Purple Ribbon All-Stars album. And he goes, I love your J's. Because I had on the Jordan threes. And it might have been fake, but I don't even know. But he gave me a compliment and I was like, okay, dope. And it's just like that whole day we ended up hanging out. Because I'm just doing radio in Columbia, so I can lie in town, so I interview them. And then we hung out at a club later on. And he's, you know, Killer Mike has never been anything but Killer Mike. And Killer Mike, y'all are just witnessing now and saying how brilliant he is in this thing. He has never been another way. It's pretty amazing what we're seeing. It's like we're watching the message and the messenger unite. And you get to see this like every so often in history where the time requires a message and a messenger. And sometimes you get the messenger. And sometimes you get the message and you get them separately. But right now there is a time in history where this message is needed. And we have a messenger who can deliver it and the message that needs to be delivered. And it is fucking... You're absolutely right, but I'm gonna tell you... It is so fucking brilliant. He's the most brilliant thing about Killer Mike, right? Killer Mike has always been Killer Mike. And I've seen people react to him in different ways. Remember, they tried to cancel Killer Mike a couple years ago for some bullshit because he decided to do exactly what everybody's applauding him for right now. Killer Mike went and sat with another black man on NRA television to discuss 2A. Killer Mike's a big 2A guy and everybody was killing him simply because he was on NRA television. But you're applauding him now because this week he told y'all at the Revolt Summit, fuck all that bickering. Fuck all your differences. Fuck arguing over which master to serve. He was like, even if you don't agree with this person, take the good of what they're saying. If you don't agree with that person, take the good of what they're saying. And let's all put together those good ideas and come up with an agenda that can benefit us all. You know how I know that this really touched a chord? Talk to me. Is I had different groups of people reach out. I had conservative friends reach out. I had really uber-liberal friends reach out. Unbeknownst to each other with the same thing. Yo, have you listened to this Killer Mike thing? Yo, this guy's the truth. It was zero pander. You're late, first of all. Listen, they're late, but it doesn't matter. Remember, a time requires everything. It would have been too early before. You know who the X Factor was? You know who the X Factor was that got Killer Mike's message registering with all those different people? Candace Owens. Interesting. And when I saw Candace Owens was going to be at the Revolt Summit. Interesting. You know, people start hitting me, sending it to me, saying this is fucked up, whatever, whatever. And I'm like, why? You need the voice. I'm like, it's not fucked up. I'm going to tell you why it's not fucked up. You may not agree with everything Candace Owens says. You may not agree with who she chooses to support Donald Trump. But sometimes Candace says some things that are accurate. Not even sometimes. She says some things that I agree with. And she says some things that I don't agree with. Guess what? Just like everybody fucking out. Just like your parents. Just like your uncle. Just like your aunt. Everybody. You can go through Thanksgiving dinner. You can listen to a political debate. Killer Mike said something on that stage, man. And I would tell, I used to tell Van this all the time when it came to reference to Candace Owens. Because there's certain things Candace would say. And I'll be like, bro, that's exactly what the nation is, alarm says. That's exactly what the Honorable Minister was trying to say. That's exactly what the Honorable Elijah Muhammad says. She may not know that. You know what I'm saying? We're tossing some of the things that they say. Mike's pointed to her and said everything she's saying, the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan has been saying for years. And when he challenged the audience, he didn't pander. He was like, this is your homework. Go out and study these people. And he said one person and then Candace was like, try to give some pushback. And he was like. No, Candace didn't give pushback. Candace said, yes. Oh, no, no, no. Go study these people. And then I think Candace said one thing and he was like, hold on, I got you. Well, no, no, no, no. When he told her to her point, he was saying to her, because when T.I. asked her, when was America ever great? Great, right, right. And Candace was like, we can make Black America great again. And T.I. was like, no, answer the question. When was America ever great? For Black people or whatever, whatever. He didn't give Candace a chance to answer the question, which I think he should have. But if you go back and listen, Kilomite actually answered the question. Kilomite gave a moment in time where he thought it was great for Black people in this country. And Candace was like, that's what I was trying to say. And he goes, no. I got to it. You didn't say it. You had your moment to get this off and you didn't say it. So let me handle it. And he was like, but that ain't even a sight. That's not a diss to you. You're saying you didn't get it. Like, let me get this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo, man, Kilomite is just a brilliant dude. But think about that, right? It's like, here's this guy up there who's sitting with what seems to be mortal enemies when they're talking, right? Like a T.I. and Candace, when they're talking to each other, they seem to be mortal enemies. That's only because of the way the media has painted it. No, no, no. T.I. is the hero. No, I know. Candace is the villain. No, I know. But what I'm saying is like, even in their debate, they're not really having dialogue, right? They're both like kind of talking to each other and nothing is really getting done. Doesn't mean that T.I. doesn't truly believe and want to help with his idea. And so does Candace. She wants to help with hers, right? This is what I'm talking about. Message and messenger. Mike comes in and says something and then both Candace and T.I. agree. If you watch T.I. when he's talking to Candace, like, and don't get me wrong, he had his moments when he pushed back on Candace hard. Yeah, yeah. But it was a lot of times when Candace was talking, when she was talking about fathers not being in the home and the illegal immigrants and everything. T.I. was shaking his head like, okay, that's the point. She got a point. And even when she said what she said about the immigrants, T.I. pushed back on that and was like, so what? Killer Mike explained why she was right. Killer Mike was like, I agree with her. You know what? One thing she said that read through with me a lot, black people haven't realized their own political power. Yes. Like, you know, it would be dope if we learned how to vote in these blocks when you take the 13% of the population and we moved like how the Tea Party moved. And what she was trying to say was, y'all got all this political cachet now, black people, we had this little cachet now, but the brown people about to have that in a minute. You know what I'm saying? So get on board. But what Killer Mike was saying to her was, you're right when it comes to the jobs and all that stuff like that, but when it comes to illegal immigration, they're not just looking at brown people. They're looking at black people too. You know what I'm saying? And he said America is always going to have a slave class. And if the slave class ain't black people, if the slave class ain't brown people, it'll be those people that are massing and incarcerated. That's not America. That's capitalism. Well, that's America's capitalist country. Right, right, right. But yeah, it is bigger than just America, meaning like a capitalist system is always going to have a slave class, a quote unquote slave class. Like when we developed the minimum wage, that just replaces. Well, America's different. I'm going to tell you why. Because it's a 13th Amendment. The 13th Amendment literally says, if you're in prison, you're a slave again. Sure, sure, sure. So it's like, so whether it's black people or illegal immigrants, if it's not them, they're going to take those people that are incarcerated, which usually are high populations of black people, and they'll be the new slave class. So that's what Killer Michael's saying. We can't just be so gun-ho about keeping everybody out and saying, fuck all illegal immigrants. Right, but outside of this like imprisonment, it is going to be part of a capitalistic system where you're going to have a certain amount of people work for the other people. I mean, that's just what happens. And then, I mean, there's an interesting. I like the political aspect of it more so than anything. Dude, I just love, and we can get into that discussion later, but I just love the idea of what he said was, stop trying to pick, stop bickering over who's the best master. What we need to do is come together and decide what we want, and we need to ask everybody here that disagrees and find the things we all agree on, and we need to have 10 points, and then we need to serve those up to every single politician that wants our votes and say, if you want our votes, you have to meet. And you know what? Fuck yeah. Do that shit, because that's literally, think about this. That's what every other group does. Right? And they have advantages on you guys, right? There's like shared history and that kind of stuff like that, but there's literally when an immigrant group moves to America, they vote in blocks. They vote in blocks, and that is why these certain immigrant groups, they have a small area that they occupy. It might be in New York, it might be in parts of Brooklyn, it might be down to wherever it is, and they'll vote in blocks, and they'll get representation from their block in state assemblymen. And then eventually that kind of moves up, but at least they're understood. Now, are they going to have to sacrifice some things? Yeah, they are. You always got to sacrifice things. You always got to sacrifice, but listen, it does nothing to just complain and yell and tweet and fucking hashtag. Start making moves in this game. I agree. And that's why I said Candace was the X-Factor, because when I saw that she was going to be on that revolt stage, people was hitting me saying, oh, this is fucked up, whatever, whatever. And I said, the beauty about this right here is they're going to have a conversation, right? And they may get at each other, whatever, whatever. But I knew Candace was going to say some things that was going to register, because Candace, I don't think Candace has ever been in front of an audience that black. You know what I'm saying? I think she's been in front of an audience of black people, but you know the black I'm talking about, that black that hoots and hollers at you. Revolts black. There you go. There we go. You know what I'm saying? Booze you, that showtime at the Apollo. Keep digging your grave, Damon Lemon Black. All right, okay. But I knew that she was going to say some things that I was going to connect, and I knew the people that checked for her were going to see Killer Mike. Yeah. And even T.I. I didn't know Tamika was going to be on the stage, but I knew that they were going to say some things that that Killer Mike was going to connect with people too. You know what I'm saying? And I think that helps to bridge gaps and make people realize, and we, because all you need is a couple things in common which somebody to realize like. One thing. Yeah, really, yeah, that's it. You need one thing in common. Every time you're in Aguila, you're in one of these fancy resorts and you connect with. You have a conversation. It's one thing that makes you just, right? You start kicking it when you start telling each other your whole fucking life story. It could be, by the way, it could be something as simple as your kids. That's it. I meet somebody I met a dude the other day. I met somebody in Turks and Caicos, this guy, and he's from Long Island. I wish I could remember his name. He had three daughters. I got three daughters. That's it. So I'm like, yeah, he was a whole in the past life, huh? And he was like, was I? Was I? I didn't know. Next thing you know, I'm talking to him. My wife talking to his wife. We just kicking it. We laughing. We joking. We sharing stories and experiences. That's all it takes. One thing. And they, yeah, yeah. Go on. But no, that's what I loved about it. And I thought, I just thought it was a great conversation. I want to see Revolt do more of that. I feel like a... Can we salute Diddy or the producers who ever put this together or what the idea behind it was? You got to salute Diddy. I mean, he put his name on it. That's his network, yeah. That's his network. Well, I think of the name of the network, Revolt. Yes. I just think that for the next year, because we're in such a weird place right now. I don't even want to call it weird because it's actually a great time where hip-hop and politics are colliding on a mass pop culture level, even though hip-hop is pop culture, right? But I mean, if you've listened to hip-hop for years, you've always had your Chuck D's. You've always had your Ice Cubes. You've always had your Killer Mike's. You've always had these guys that talk about social commentary. They talk about things that social redeeming value. They've always talked about political things that's been going on. Like Killer Mike has songs like Fuck Ronald Reagan. Like they've impeached the president of Ice Cube. You've always heard this in the music. But now it's, like you said, it's being presented in such a digestible way. You know what I'm saying? You got to give Angela Rye a lot of credit for that too. Angela Rye, whether you agree with her or not, she knows how to talk that language that connects with that hip-hop audience. When she's on CNN and she's using hip-hop references, it makes people embrace it in a different way. Ebony Kay Williams. She's on State of the Culture with Joe Budden and Remy. She's an attorney. She knows politics, but she just knows how to put it in a digestible way. Killer Mike, super academic. You know what I'm saying? But he just knows how to spit that shit in a digestible way. He's using the language of the people. They know how to communicate. Yes, man, yes. Was Angela a part of that conversation? No, it was Tamika Mallory. What's Katrina's last name? Pearson, I think. Katrina Pearson. Killer Mike, T.I. And I cannot remember the other brother's name. I never saw him before that. And who moderated it? Jeff Johnson. Through to Jeff. I was on a plane with Jeff this weekend. Because of Jeff. Because of Jeff. You know what I'm saying? And yeah, I just thought it was a good conversation, man, because it was just, it shows black people aren't monolithic. Dude, we are witnessing a profound time in black American history. If we're willing to listen. Even if it's not, it's like that conversation right there will be, it could be, talked about in history. Did you watch the whole hour, 18 minutes? No, no, I didn't watch the whole hour. And I will. And I will, I'm curious. That's really good, it's really good. I watched several chunks of it, but like that conversation right there could be talked about in history in the same way they talk about, you know, when Lincoln spoke at, what was the school that they have right there in East Village? Cooper Union. Cooper Union. You know what I mean? Like this transition in ideology, this transition and this kind of like removal from like this dogmatic approach to politics that black people have been expected to have for so long, which is, I'm black, I'm democratic, because the Democrats vote for me. It's like, no, I'm black, and I have my issues that I care about. And then whoever the fuck cares about my issues is going to get my vote. By the way, salute the killer, Mike. None of that is new rhetoric. No, no, Mike's been saying this. Dude, we're not, not even from Mike. This is Elijah Muhammad. This is Malcolm X. This is Morgan Garvey. We've been saying this. But I did it from them. That's what I studied. You see all the way on Monday that guy's been saying, Elijah Muhammad, like, all of that is old rhetoric. That's why I love Nipsey so much, right? Because Nipsey is a new symbol for old values. Because Nipsey used to study the honorable Elijah Muhammad. Sure. He used to study Malcolm X. He's the do-for-self model. He's that guy. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like when people look at him and what he's doing, that's, that's been going on. Saying killer Mike is the same way. He fall, he's fruit off that tree. But everything he said is absolutely right. You free. Act like it.