 So the discus is coming off of this finger that's no good and we're going to talk about why and how to fix it in this video so check it out. Hey everybody it's Eric Johnson from Maritime Throws Nation and in today's video we are going to answer a question that a lot of you ask and that is why is my discus coming off the middle finger? What does that mean? What's the middle finger for? We always talk about this it's not meant for thrown it's meant for something that's not very polite and makes people angry. So you want to avoid it at all costs because it's going to impact your discus in a negative way as well. So one of the questions we received was why is it that I can do my stand throw so when you see me throw here and we wind back and I'm going to get that off my middle finger what happens and if I'm doing a half turn throw if I'm going to be here and I'm coming through and I'm going to throw it this way why is it that on those I can throw so this is our pillar five six and pillar three four five six and in what we were in our chain reaction system when I add pillar one two why is it that now the discus is coming off of the middle finger good question and one of the basics is when we're in the stand throw when you guys are learning to stand now whether you do it right or wrong we just going to put the discus in this position and it's easy to keep the discus back when we starting to add pillar one and two to our full throw we're changing how the arms carry so what happens is we talk about how the thumb angle changes on the discus and we start to see the hand pointing like this and when we're doing stand throws it's easy to drag the discus here what happens is when we start to add pillar one and two so when we get back to this position or we go to a full throw or we go to our South African drills or we're doing any of this type of movement this is where people run into problems on keeping the discus back so we see this is a big problem with quite a few people and what is typically happening is that carry position that you will do easier on your stand throw again pillar five six or your half turn modified wheels we call them will be your pillar three four right we're moving three four five six it's easier you're starting basically with that arm back in the full throw you would think keeping it back but you've got to open up and what happens is people start to get uncomfortable and they're carrying the discus and now the hand is sitting like this so the thumb and hand goes from here so you see this line to here so one of the things that you want to understand is that now what why that changes and why it starts to come off the middle finger is because when I get to the full throw and I start to carry the discus or I turn the discus over the orbit and the shoulder you're starting to throw yourself off balance you're going to wind up turning the hand and you're going to have the discus like this no longer stretched like this and we want to see that hand and thumb in this position so that the discus is coming off of this index finger now the faster you spin the discus the longer it stays in the air this is something you need to learn and develop and many beginning throwers don't really adequately know how to spin the discus so buying a big expensive rim weight disc some four hundred dollar disc when you don't have the skill set to maximize that is not necessarily the most advantageous thing now whether you have a low rim weight disc or a high rim weight disc if you know how to spin the discus the distance is going to be relatively close but the key is if you don't the distance is going to be significantly different because you can't adequately spin the heavy rim weight disc now why again is it coming off of the middle finger one of the things we'd recommend we posted a video called how to add 20 feet to your throw talking about the grip and release in the discus and you can go back and check that but what we're kind of reiterating is specifically why is it always coming off the middle finger and that is going to be you're going to be having to see something in your carry position so we've worked with a number of athletes again the biggest point what you want to understand is what you need to be working on is how to release the discus so doing some more walkthroughs and drills and static throws are going to be some simple things you can do so we like to do some basic drills where we're going to be here and now that's going to teach you how to move and keep the discus back and that's going to set up that better hand position which is going to change now some people say well I have a really long middle finger and some people do but even if it's that long it's still a matter of how you are angling the hand and now you're able to still have the index fingers is primarily what's on the rim of the discus and it's going to be able to snap and spin far so quick simple tip today if you guys are having a hard time and that discus is coming off your middle finger and you know that is not what it's supposed to do because that middle finger shouldn't be used for anything but grabbing things so you want to make sure that it's coming off of this finger you got to play and realize that it's really what it's coming in is this how you're carrying the discus that has a huge impact that's going to affect your orbit and your radius and the amount of power and your balance typically throughout the throw so this is a simple fix but it takes a few weeks be patient you might have a bunch of crappy throws but you have to realize that something you're doing in your throw at some point you're getting that hand position from here to here and now that's what's going to wind up having your hand your main finger come off you're shortening your radius and you're likely turning the discus up it's coming off the middle finger and you're gonna lose a lot of distance and none of us want to do that all right guys so hopefully that is a helpful tip thanks so much for watching hit that subscribe button comment below on other things you'd like to see and we will see you on the next video