 Committed to fair debate and honest information, the Reality Check has arrived, RCR, Reality Check Radio. Now it's time for my favorite session of the week on RCR, a political agenda. Why isn't my favorite? Well, I'm in it, of course, but the great company helps. Now this Friday with Paul still out having lost his voice, he's not here, but do not fear, Paul's centre-long is enforcer to make sure we keep on track and mostly, I think, to ensure that I don't speak too much. Welcome to the Breakfast Show, Tane Webster. Thanks, Cam, glad to be here filling in for Paul today. So welcome to author and commentator Olivia Pearson. Welcome to author Marty Gibson. Great to see your content on RCR's news blog recently and of course, welcome to the one and only Cam Slater. On today's agenda, we've got a good mix of topics to cover, the recent Roy Morgan poll, the recent chaos unfolding in France, Nigel Farage being debanked, a double-dip recession ahead for New Zealand, $5 billion in extra borrowing crown debt now at $73 billion, teachers shocked at the draft school curriculum, Newsguard launching in Australasia and safer online services. Before we get started, Paul has given me this buzzer to use to help us keep on time. So I will use the buzzer, if necessary. First up, we have the Roy Morgan poll and I think you're going to speak to that, Cam. Yeah, I'll kick it off. We had the Roy Morgan poll come out earlier in the week. Roy Morgan has a patchy reputation being up and down and I don't tend to look at the exact numbers as they come out. What I'm looking at with polls is the trend on where things are heading. Now Roy Morgan last month had Labour slash Greens with the Maori Party slightly ahead. This month they've got National slash Act slightly ahead, but neither of those two blocks have enough to govern by themselves. They will need another partner to come in. So the headline numbers are the National Party is pretty much flatlining or sliding downwards. They've dropped 1.5% this only sitting on 30%. So we're 100 days out from the election and National is sitting at 30% and in the second place and Labour has increased their support by 1.5% and they've gone up to 15% which is the highest level of support for them in 18 months. Now the National Party support is the lowest level of support for National since Christopher Luxem became the leader. The Labour Party is sitting there with slightly down on half a percent sitting on 30.5 so just slightly ahead of National and the Greens have dropped 2.5% as well to 9.5%. And then there's really nothing else other than the Maori Party with a bizarre number which is 7%. And I don't actually believe that and I've prefaced that at the start. I don't look at the headline numbers, I look at the trends and when you look at the chart for the Roy Morgan poll, what you're seeing is the National Party after Luxem took over reached a high of 40% and it's been downhill ever since then. Labour too is sliding but the election of Christopher Hipkins to the leadership has dropped, jumped them out from 25% to 33% and they've only dropped back from 33% there. So Luxem initially got a big jump and then it slid away. Hipkins got a jump and that's sliding away slightly and we always see this in most elections especially post-MMP elections. You see the large parties sliding away in the last few weeks or the last few months of the election campaign and you see the minor parties coming up and what we're seeing is ACT is cannibalising, absolutely cannibalising the National Party's vote. And David Seymour, as unstable and as flippant and as arrogant as he is, is actually cutting Christopher Luxem's lunch here and people are choosing ACT because they're looking at Christopher Luxem and they're thinking, gosh, this guy is sweating woke and he is smelling of damp and that he's just not resonating and I get commenters on my site all the time they're talking about, we've just got a way he's keeping his powder dry, he's keeping his powder dry and I don't keep saying to them, this is a wet politician, there's no way he's keeping any powder dry and he's just not working. They're kind of stuffed because they've got 100 days and that goes real quick, especially when the campaign gets going in great gusto in just a few weeks' time and then you're going to start seeing some of these minor parties make a bit of a rally until they get away, you're going to see Winston Peters come back, he's sitting on 3% here at the moment, that doesn't take much for him to get over that 5% and then we've got a real game on our hands. Interesting, isn't it? I've said it before, how corrected is that ACT are absolutely cutting the lunch of National and I have friends who shall remain unnamed but they don't listen to the show anyway. Come on, it's Lindsay. No, no, no. No, people that own a lot of property and commercial property and residential property all through Auckland, National Voters for Life and they keep going on about how they're voting ACT for the first time and the reason for that is simply and these people would put up with a lot more woke stuff than I would. They're very late to the party but they cannot bear the spineless wokery that comes out of Christopher Luxon's mouth every five minutes so their voting ACT is if that's going to be anything too different. You just have to look at that video, Marty, I know you saw it, that video of Christopher Luxon whining and carping about why he didn't go and speak to the parliamentary protest. Did you see that video? Yeah, I saw that and it's just, he's just a shiver looking for a spine to run up, isn't he, as the old saying goes. And you know, there's that Matthew, oh, not Matthew Hooton, Mike Hosking just you know, summed up what's going on with Labour as the simple equation is they look worn out and chaotic, we're in recession, crime is appalling and there is dangerous malaise and growing anger around the running of the country and they're still ahead of national. Just appalling. Debbie Ngarewa, Packer, Packer or Parker, Packer pulled up the host of Waka Huia for saying that asking whether the Māori party was cannibalising Labour's votes, said it's a Pākehā thing. So I guess it's OK for us to say it. But yeah, it's not not the done thing in the Māori electorate. No, I guess not. Look, I've been saying this for several months now, you know, to my to my readers, that keeping your powder dry is not very good. If you're going to be overrun by hordes and masses, charging at you and you're sitting there going, it's all right, I've got my powder dry. It's all right, I've got when you're overrun and your trenches are empty and you're all dead and the stocks of powder are still there. Then there was no point keeping it dry. And if you're going to have your powder dry, it pays to have a really good strategy, you know, like a plan where you're going to deploy or put that dry powder in something and shoot it. Metaphorically speaking, of course. But that's a good point that you raised there, Olivia, because you have to have a plan and a strategy. And National's plan and strategy at the end of last year was Jacinda Ardern's horrible and will be less crap than they are. Effectively saying that we'll be more careful managers of the decline. And when she went, they've kept that plan. And Christopher Hipkins, despite his history that we all know about and his anti-freedom stuff and all his vaccine stuff that he did, he's just not as despicable and loathed as Jacinda Ardern. So that plan was should have been torn up and they should have started again. But they haven't. They've just carried on with this arrogant assumption that it's their turn next. Yeah. And it's just that just doesn't work. It didn't work for Bill English in 2002 at our turn, although terrible. Everyone, it's just an aberrant. The arrogance of these major parties and Labour has it to arrogance that they'll just swap around and have turns is unbelievable. But, you know, it's there. And that arrogance comes from, you know, 100 years of exactly that happening happening, the ball swinging from here and the pendulum. I mean, not the ball back and forth, back and forth between, you know, a uni party, basically. Is it just selling the same thing? I mean, you know, without wanting to be much cynicism in there, you know, I mean, if they really wanted to cane it, they'd do what it says on the box and go back to being national, you know, focused on our national interest, which would be pretty easy to do. Well, they were there originally to fight communism. Weren't they? Well, now they are communist. I think they're all implementing the same agenda. And, you know, I think that's why they don't open it right up and do what they would if they wanted to win convincingly. And as it gets closer and closer to the election, these, especially those two main parties, they're trying to compete to grab those centrist voters who are undecided because they know who the Indian national voters are and Labour knows who their Labour voters are. So in the coming 100 days, it'll just be more of more probably woke stuff from Lux and competing for those middle voters. That's the thing, yeah. You're absolutely right, except there's just one correction there. They're not competing for centre voters. They're competing for centre-left voters. What they used to call the swing vote. Yeah, but they decidedly on the left side of the centre, they're not, nationals no longer a right-wing party. No, they're centre-left. I see them very much as centre-left. Yeah. All right. I think that's enough on the room. Come on, we've got to hear the buzzer. Oh, do you now? Hear the buzzer. Oh, there we go. Oh, fascist buzzer. Right. So now we're into the recent riots and chaos unfolding in France. I believe you're going to speak to that, Olivia. Yeah, I'd like to speak to that. Basically, France, immigration, terrorism, censorship. That's the equation. It's absolutely descending into hell. The price Europe is now going to have to pay for mass Islamic immigration, despite the huge volume of painful warnings from people as far back as Enoch Powell. Dare I mention his name? And Roger Scrucian, remember, was big on this issue. Rest in peace, Roger. And of course, more recently, Douglas Murray has made this point, especially in his book, The Strange Death of Europe, which is chilling. But after the mosque shootings here in New Zealand, Jacinda Ardern and Macron initiated the Christchurch call, which we know was a global effort towards censorship, involving over 120 governments, their online service providers and all their civil society organisations. The Christchurch call was to target online terrorism and violent extremism. When she and Macron initiated the Christchurch call, he was having to deal with the Yellow Vest protesters, which actually was a genuine grassroots working class protest movement protesting every single weekend in French cities all over France, over petrol prices, the rise of crude oil prices, fuel tax, traffic enforcement cameras. They protested that, austerity measures, the 2017 wealth tax repeal. Basically, they were opposing all the fruits of neoliberalism in general. They were livid that the tax burden of France fell heavily upon working and middle class people, while the super wealthy were avoiding their taxes through clever accounting and offshore banking. Macron gave orders for his heavily armed riot police to crack down on these protests so forcefully that one of the main leaders of the movement, Jerome Rodriguez, was shot by police in the face, resulting in the loss of his right eye. He was so badly wounded that he had to be placed in a medically induced coma. Incidentally, that was a projectile from a flashball launcher. Exactly what Jacinda Ardern had the police use on we protesters when Freedom Village fell two summers ago. Cams often made that point that, you know, they were called sponge rounds where really they were hard plastic. Yeah, but also from grenade launchers, right? Right. But the Christchurch call was there to well, she initiated it and him. And it was used in our countries to censor social media posts about COVID and the facts. And Alex Antic made that really clear in the Australian Senate when he called out the the regulatory agency of the Australian government, the TGA. And, you know, this is yet this thing is different now. And you actually have got real terrorism, real Islamic hardcore violence. And he's used the Christchurch call to now censor what's coming out of France and the media. I don't know if any of you other guys saw it, but it came through and it's now been censored. Some poor guy that protected his car and had his hand cut off. And he was lying there with his legs broken last week, you know, with his hand cut off, bleeding out. And some dick filmed him rather than putting it into a tourniquet. But this is France is just going to go off. The only hope is that Marine Le Pen picks up what will steps in and I don't know how that would happen other than there's complete lack of confidence in their president. I know she's sitting there waiting for this to happen, but she was always against the heavy immigration from Islamic countries into France. And this is the reason that she was against it. Where are they at now? Are they about 15 percent still or they getting up from that? Marine, I think she's a lot. No, no, sorry, that what percentage of the population is France now? Sorry, what was that question? Do you know what percentage Muslims France is now? It was around 15 percent, I thought it was 10, actually. Yeah, I think it's a bit higher than that. Well, I know that you have serious threats to your culture when it's at six. Yeah, there's a scale of, you know, we're still at the they are us stage. Yeah, God, it's in it's acknowledged in France to be around 10 percent. But that was last calculated in 2020. Right. The other the other politician that's been taking advantage of it in France of the Marine, the pen is Eric Seymour. Are you familiar with him? Yeah, he's another what they call far right, but he's actually just a conservative politician. Yeah, he'd just be sent a right. Yeah. Yeah, a classical conservative. You know, what I admire about the French and it's not much I admire about the French. I mean, you know, the military prowess is just appalling. But they are civil disobedience when they have had enough of their arrogant and out of touch elite politicians is incredible. You know, you had the yellow the yellow vests, you know, protests. You've had farmers bring the whole country to a standstill. This is a whole different level of what we're talking about here. And, you know, other European countries as probably sitting there, Riley, smiling like Poland and like Hungary, who absolutely refused to engage in the mass immigration that occurred in, you know, 2018 to 2020 of all of these. It's a lot. Well, Holland Holland got that, of course, Hungary didn't. Yeah. It Hungary said there's no way we're just going to put up fences and we're going to have minefields and we're going to have machine guns. We're going to have vicious dogs. Don't come here. The polls did the same thing. Yeah, you want to go to Denmark? Keep on walking. Yeah. And they don't have these problems that Sweden has, that France has got that all of these countries that say, oh, no, we love you all. We welcome you with open arms. Well, you know, you're importing the problems that came from those countries. They bring them with them. These aren't families. These aren't families that came in those mass migrations. They were fighting age people. Yeah. Right. They were they were 18 to 35 year old males that were invading literally European countries. And that was so damn obvious when we watched that happen after after Hillary Clinton, Obama and cement, the powers, you know, managed to overthrow Gaddafi. The floodgates just opened. He was always the cork to that bottleneck to them to the Mediterranean. And they've just, yeah, most of them fighting age males, freely flowing into Europe, the US, through the southern border, which is ever porous. And of course, Australia and New Zealand took ever larger refugee quotas as the Turkish and European camps were emptied. But what brought that to a halt in at least Australia and New Zealand was Covid. Yeah. Our border closed. I think we better move on. And we've got it's the best for it's only as a last resort. But OK, all right. We've got Nigel Farage debanking. Well, it's debanking generally has has been and you've got to look at all of these things as a cumulative total of levers that are being assembled to work against us eventually. It's naive to think that we won't eventually be debanked if if we displease the fat controllers. But it happened to Lee Williams here, didn't it? Yeah, well, I mean, it's happened a lot. I mean, Nigel Farage, I mean, there's a bit of backwards and forwards about. You know, whether Russia, Russia, he just got under the limit that they needed to keep his bank accounts open. But, you know, nine other banks turned him down and he's a politically exposed person as the is the phraseology they use. But, you know, that happened in Canada as well with the trucking protests. And you had a pet. Yeah. Yeah. Physically exposed person. What a terrible. It's happening in America. J.P. Morgan Chase. Basically, did a similar thing to the National Committee for Religious Freedom over the past year. And basically, they said to them, you can have your bank account back with potentially consider reopening your account if you take three actions. Disclose a list of donors who contributed more than 10 percent of your operating budget, hand over a list of political candidates you intended to support and divulge the criteria you use to decide who to support politically. So, you know, this is. And, of course, this happened to Katie Hopkins. Yeah, Tommy Robinson. Tommy Robinson and it's naive to think that it won't eventually happen to us. So it has happened here. We've had Lee Williams, but go back even further. Go back to 2014 and there was an attempt by the left wing to silence me to cancel my advertisers to take my money away from doing what I do. That was that was the start of all this. It's a new feeling, I would imagine, Cam. You feel oppressed when you go through it. But what it made me do is to adapt and it made me able to be more nimble on earlier things. And yeah. And but I was forced into doing that. Thankfully, the banks went in that process now. But if there was dirty politics again, you can be you can be without any doubt that I would have my bank accounts closed in a heartbeat. Yeah, I mean, you know, the other angle of this is that and I'm not sure whether it's in other countries other than France, but you would have seen that video of the president of the European Central Bank, Christine Lagarde, and she's a consummate insider. You know, she's been the president of the European Central Bank since about 2019. Prior to that, she was the president of the International Monetary Fund. She's also on the board of the Internet, a Bank of International Settlements, the World Bank, she's on the board of the World Economic Forum. And she was saying, now in Europe, we have this threshold above a thousand euros. You cannot pay cash if you do. You're going on the gray market, so you take your risk. If you get caught, you get fined or go to jail. So that's not very much. I've got friends in Europe who spend a lot more than that on a night out in cash. And yeah, it's it's it's getting hard to use cash here. No, it's it's here. It is getting very hard to use cash here. Now, a made of mine has a business that transacts financial products and they've now had to stop accepting cash for some of these products that they're selling. They're legitimate products. I'm not going to say what they're because there's only a couple of them in business that do this. So I can't say what it is. But he's had to stop accepting cash in his business because it sets off all these triggers, formfilling, you know, pencil, necked weasels coming in with clipboards, coming to do audit. So you had why did you accept this much cash and stuff like that? Doe faces. Yeah, to look at it is to to remember those seven aims of the World Economic Forum. And one of them is total control of transactions, transactions, central banks and digital currencies. And you can you can look at what's in the paper and presented a certain way and go, which one is it? Jacinda, a doings going off to fight misinformation. Ah, that's the total control of the by the media cabal. Well, this is exactly why I this is exactly what Iver Cummins was talking about with me yesterday on the same show. So he was saying that they are causing, you know, these financial issues with with hyperinflation now starting to raise its head, you're having a collapsing of the financial markets. And then in part of this, we've got the WF and all these other people talking about these CBDCs, talking about all of this sort of stuff because that's the solution to the problem that they're causing. Yeah, they've absolutely created. Yeah. And then when you in your right, Marty, when they couple that with censorship, with digital control of every transaction and what you're doing, now you've got the Chinese wet dream of a social credit system around the world where people like us can be othered very quickly and very comprehensively indeed. Yeah. And I just say before we move on, it's not obviously just individuals that people should be aware of. It's even on targeting particular industries. I just checked an article from twenty twenty one. You guys might have heard it when it came around in Australia. There were banks restricting the how much they would finance coal related companies because they've got a climate agenda. And you know what I mean? Yeah. Whatever they whatever the cause celebs is of the left wing because that's who's controlling this now. Well, is it the cam? I mean, I I just it's it's it's a big twisty rope and right up the top. You've got politics mixed with business, which is fascism. And, you know, the left wing, right wing. I mean, left wing is more government, less freedom. So I guess in that sense, they are left wing. Well, fascism is the corporate version of communism. Yeah. Well, if you're Chris, Chris Hipkins driving it, you know, his as I said, he's a he's a screen and a keyboard. You know, the CPU is is not that sausage roll eating head. Yeah. And and and but also through history fascist. Well, especially the 20th century fascists, communists absolutely flocked to the fascist banner of the Nazis. That's what happened. National socialists. Yep. National socialists. And but before we move on, just I just want to say one more thing. I was very pleased to see Tommy Robinson rip Nigel Farage, a new one over the fact that he stayed silent when Tommy lost his bank accounts. And it wasn't just Tommy, it was his wife, it was his father in law. And that happened in 2009. Nigel Farage ended up piling on to the attacks on Tommy, calling him a thug and stuff like that. So Tommy told him off for basically told him not to sit there complaining like a bitch, because his bank accounts have now been frozen and good job, Tommy Nigel. Yeah, it's a great one. We've got to stand up for the for the rights of the people, even if we disagree with the absolutely. Yeah. Well, I stood up for Lee Williams when that happened to him, like him or not, what happened to him was disgusting in New Zealand. And he was hounded out of the country. And once you've got no bank account, that's it. No job, no bank account, no house, no marriage. They tried it with you, Olivia, remember? Well, they tried. They didn't get very far, though, Cam, because we had solidarity, didn't we? You had an editor that told them all to go away. Yeah, thank you for that. All right. Next one to cover is Cam. Doubled at recession ahead and government borrowing. Yeah, these two things that go go hand in glove. They had the news yesterday, but nothing was. I mean, you know, I go back to the Maldunia is remember, we used to have headlines in the news with the deficit was the record ever. And, you know, everyone was saying, this is terrible. We've got these negative deficits and and all of it was just a desert. Now, economic news comes out. And anyway, what did Megan and Harry have to say about this? Or, well, oh, no, Taylor Swift's not coming to New Zealand. We've we've completely dumbed down the information that people get upset about. Now, they get upset about a fat person can't fit into a chair and a plane, you know. So what we've got now, though, we've got this double dip recession. That's what Kiwi Bank, you know, the most illiquid bank that we've got in New Zealand is their economists are sitting there saying, I think we're heading for a double dip recession. Well, a recession is two consecutive quarters. In a row of negative growth. And a double dip recession is double that, obviously, which is a whole year of recession. Then the next level that comes after double dip recession. Depression is depression. And that's two years of recessions, basically. But it's it's a sort of amorphous moving measure. But that's where we're heading for. And you'll talk with them, Farsi, Irani was fascinating. Because, I mean, there's the Great Depression, which we know the history of that. And that was devastating. And that was before two World Wars, well, one World War. But this is the, you know, you guys were referencing, well, Farsi was the complete collapse of the global system of economics and banking, and that there's not even a word for that. No, we've seen that several times. There was 1929, of course. And then there was in the in the 70s with Henry Kissinger, which I talked about with with Ivar. And we saw those two two interviews together back to back, really joined together a whole lot of information that was kind of interesting. And, you know, we've now gone through those oil shocks, the things that Kissinger caused, the oil shocks, the economic shocks that removed the gold standard and went to a total fiat currency economy basis. And we're now coming, you know, this is what Farsi was saying. And what Ivar was saying, we're coming to the end of the era of the fiat currency economies. And what we're going to see is another catalyst. And that's what they're talking about, this extra catalyst. And it all requires governments to be horrendously in debt so that they devalue their currency, they wreck the economy, they renege on on borrowings and all those sorts of things, which is why the second article that I'm talking about here is linked to the double debt recession. Our recession is being caused by the government and our inflation has been caused by government spending. And the government spending is fueled by an addiction that Grant Robertson has to debt. And in the last quarter, they've whacked on an extra five billion dollars of borrowing and crown debt is now seventy three point seventy three billion dollars. It's it's it's getting close to, you know, to over the 20 percent market GDP and borrowings. And it's not like we've got a lot to show for it is the other killer. You don't have anything to show for a fiat currency. Do you think maybe the people are printing the money? Quite like us, haven't borrowed a whole lot of money and not have the pesky emissions. And again, you can go to that one to seven list about what the WF wants. Exactly. They want to they want to slow economies. And so it's working just fine. You know, it's not a feat. It's not a bug. It's a feature that you're right. I mean, but let's put this into perspective. Remember in 2017, part of the coalition agreement between Labour and New Zealand first was the three billion dollar provincial growth fund. And everyone threw their arms in the air and said, this is an appalling waste of money. Three billion dollars is terrible. Well, the government's just gone and borrowed an extra five billion in the last quarter. Right. That's nearly double what the whole of the provincial growth fund was supposed to be. And there's not there's no outrage over that. You've almost got to say it a different way. I used to in the 10 years before I left Gisborne, it had ten thousand million dollars from central government and still had the same rates of illiteracy. Still had the same presence of gangs. Still had the same bumping along in last place. You know, and you think you have to tie yourself in knots to spend that much money without actually changing anything. Well, you know, just look at the mental health budget. The government touted, you know, in 2020 that they were going to spend one point nine billion dollars on mental health and it was going to be wondrous and it was going to solve the problem. And we wouldn't have any more mental people on the streets. And it was going to be cool. What do we get for that? We've spent it. It's gone, right? One point nine billion dollars has been spent on mental health. Mental people everywhere, everywhere, right? They're living in motels in Rotorua. They're living in motels in Rotorua. Yeah, you go for a walk along the main street of Takapuna. There's beggars on the main street of Takapuna. People who are begging are doing it because of mental health issues, not because of any other reason. In my first year at uni, I didn't get into the halls of residence and my mum found a cheap hostel nearby. And it turned out that it was where all the Tokenui patients went when they when they shut it down. And and, you know, a lot of them. I mean, it was a pretty good place for them, really. It was a bit of a sense of community. But the fact they were such awful places before shouldn't necessarily put us off having a place where they can go and live. No, no, I think it was an absolute mistake closing down mental institutions. I mean, I had a brother-in-law that ended up in Tokenui. He sadly took his own life at twenty three. But he was in Tokenui. It was when he got out that he hung himself. But those places actually just they kept them clean. They kept them medicated and they, you know, had some form of respite from parental care because, I mean, he was that was quite advanced schizophrenia. It was very sad. And also, I remember Ravensthorpe Hospital in Ramarama, Auckland. I mean, South Auckland, that was, you know, you wouldn't want to live there or anything, but they were severely mentally ill people that were not capable of living in society at all. And at least they were cared for and medicated to some degree of, you know, and they had little gardens and things like that. Back to before they said, oh, you've got to pay them the minimum wage. You know, letting them wander around the streets. That's what Helen Clark, but she did that. She was the health minister that closed all of those mental hospitals. That was Helen. Helen back, Helen back. We don't need the buzzer. I think we've finished that one. Yeah, right. Let's move on to the draft science curriculum that's recently come out. I love you. Yeah. So, oh, well, you know, schools are now being designed to directly dumb the next generations down so that they are too incompetent to be able to ever run complex infrastructure. No science in the curriculum, physics, chemistry, biology is out. The article that's come through that, well, the articles that I've been reading, you know, the Institute President Joaquin Brand said that he was worried teenagers would finish school without learning fundamental knowledge about things like energy and matter. It's not a good feature. It doesn't matter, bro. He warned the draft was this is a thing, though, is he warned that the draft was heavy on philosophy and light on actual science. I don't like seeing science be put against philosophy in that way. I think that's a terrible mistake and a really dumbed down mistake. Philosophy is the handmaiden of science always was. Science was called natural philosophy for, you know, until the late 19th century when chemistry and physics became separate disciplines watching just what entities do and how they act upon or how they are acted upon seemed more and more to have little to do without with anything philosophical. So philosophy and science sadly got a divorce, which is a real shame. I mean, I've got a lot more to say on that, but perhaps one of you guys want to chime in to actually the articles on what was a good article in yesterday's paper by Dr. Andrew Rogers, who's the head of chemistry at St. Peter's College in Auckland. And it's good to see you suspect people are just starting to get a little bit brave. You know, he's speaking out. And he he said it reinforces my worry that the science programs are being dumbed down, best practices being ignored, and the changes are being dictated by ideology. Of more concern, those who worked on the level one science standards did so without any idea what the level two or level three programs would look like as no curriculum existed. Yeah, many of the experienced classroom specialists with an understanding of international best practice were sidelined or at best managed. I suspect they were seen as difficult to work with because their reasoning didn't support the minister's narrative. God, let's just call it what it is, though. This isn't about science. This isn't about anything other than indoctrination about climate change, species extinction, veganism and bugs, renewables and pandemics. That's what this science curriculum, so-called science curriculum is all about. It's about indoctrination. And then when you add the indoctrination, the cultural Marxism that's marched through our institutions, our learning institutions, is then applied to the censorship and the censoriousness of our modern governments and now linked to these controls of banking and all of this. What you're looking at is not dumbing people down. It's making them compliant. But we already know that most New Zealanders are compliant because they all just tugged their forelocks and stayed at home. Yeah, we saw that, didn't we? We saw that, right? We were sitting there laughing. But what we were actually watching was the the test run for subjugation. Yeah, a toe in the water. Michael Johnson from the New Zealand initiative blew the whistle on the draft document after it was leaked to him. So this is from a leak, right? But one of the curriculum writers, one Cathy Bunting, rubbish suggestions that key areas key areas of physics and chemistry would not be taught. She said, absolutely not. But they will be teaching the chemistry and the physics that you need to engage with the big issues of our time. Well, I mean, stuff that the big issues of our time. For them, that means men can become women, right? And they're going to turn that in. Well, they have turned that into a science. It also means that carbon, the thing that actually makes us up as human beings, is evil. Is evil. So, yes, how do you how do you love your life when you're just carbon? How evil? Basically, this curriculum is this, right? The Earth system, that's the headline they've called it. Essentially, it's climate change and how it's destroying the Earth and how only Ma Tauranga Maori can save the planet. That's what the that's what the curriculum will be. Biodiversity, climate changes are reducing biodiversity and how colonialism killed off everything. And then they blame the Maori for it. Yeah, that'll be that'll be the big issue. One of the big issues of our time that she's speaking about. And, you know, science, physics, chemistry, biology, in other words, natural philosophy, you know, should be about the big issues of any time, not this, you know, universal truths, not just our own hermetic little cultural bandwagons. Bunting's language and pedagogy makes me sick. What the world needs now is an emphasis on morality connected to science. You know, what is right and wrong? Not as an end goal, I don't mean morality as an end goal, but as a tool to make sure that you get to the good and fruitful human flourishing. But we know human flourishing is not a goal anymore for these people, hence the curriculum reflects that. Yeah, excellent. I mean, I can just imagine the infectious diseases curriculum will be how Jacinda Ardern saved the world from covid and why we now must give full pandemic control to the United Nations. That'll be that'll be what it is. It'll be all of that. And also, you know, I want to say this, parents have to mount a full scale, organized revolution against their school administrators, or they need to go in homeschool. And that's probably a better option. Even I had three years of homeschooling. We got science, biology, logic, poetry, music and politics and animals everywhere. And it was just absolutely amazing because my mother started a school in her own home. She was a teacher, but it was the stuff of a good classical education. And there is no reason. I mean, that school is still thriving. It's on the North Shore called Westminster. I was a foundation pupil. But Cam, you'll remember this national national government back then in the late eighties started to bulk fund new schools with a code of special character. So my mom, she taught up to 20 kids in her own middle class suburban home, right? In Campbell's Bay and didn't take a salary for five years, banked all the bulk funding and then went and bought 10 beautiful acres 10 years later in Albany and built her school with a Christian worldview for their pedagogical. Fantastic. Yeah. And there's no reason why I keep saying this to people who are teachers and have been disenfranchised after Covid. There's no reason you've got to set up your own school. And I mean, school fees, I would pay a thousand dollars a term for that for my child. You know, you get so that equates to four grand a year. I mean, that's kind of doable if you if you if you make it so. And you can get we. Mum had people come in from with philosophies, philosophy degrees that came and taught us Solon's reforms, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, the beginnings of Western thought. We got taught that at 11 years old. You were a hot house. We were. It proves it works. Yeah, I did it. My brother chose not to. The teachers unions, of course, oppose all of this and because they want everyone to be adults so that they can keep teaching adults, which make more adults, which make useful union members. Yeah. Well, they're upset that someone else might be able to do the job better than them. Well, just about everybody can do the job better than them. But people used to ask my mother, you know, how do you get around homeschooling with the curriculum? Because this this was all done because people like my mother found the school curriculum bloody disturbing back in the 80s. It was if it was bad luck in the 80s. Imagine what it's like now. They're teaching them all sorts of mumbo jumbo that boys can be girls and girls can be boys. Yeah, I mean, it's a big buzzer on. Your fascist buzzer. Oh, Tane. So right. So now we're going to move into News Guard's launch into Australasia. Can you tell us about that, Marty? What is News Guard? What's the significance of this development? Well, News Guard is basically a it's a third owned by one of the world's largest PR firms. And it's essentially a filter that that filters out wrong think and wrong speak. So this is this is all again, this is all linked in. If you don't have an educated population, they don't know what's missing from the information they're getting. And, you know, this is also linked to the new the the changes to the online safety, the Department of Internal Affairs. What's called, Cam, help me out here. That's it. All of those ones. Yeah, all of that stuff. You know, we've got government snitches. Yeah, these bodies established. Busy bodies, Internal Affairs Department to cut out the debate, essentially. You know, it's just censorship is what it is. Yeah, marginalise any nail that sticks up so it could be hammered down. When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Yeah, when you're good at hammering. But I mean, I did make the excuse that I've had five kids charging around the house. And I've been reading through all the stuff and it's so dense, you know, and you can read a lot of it and it it it doesn't sound bad. Like if you if you read a lot of the what the Department of Internal Affairs says about it says, it sounds very, very, very, very mild and harmless. It but it, you know, it says in essence, it sounds like it's good for you, right? Yeah, you need this. Yeah, it's going to keep you all safe. You know, have we heard that before? The same place that we heard that the W.E.F.'s great, you know, reset was safer online services. Safer safer than what sounds like the digital identity trust framework bill, safer online services. Yeah, it's designed to protect people like Russell Brown, you know, the tech guru who fell for a scam. The other I sorry, I just had to insert that I just laughed and laughed and laughed and laughed and laughed and laughed when I saw Russell Brown doing a pity party about how him and his nana and his mum nearly got scammed. Well, this this some I mean, I know I'm jumping around a bit. But the the just your papers. Yeah, too many papers. Yeah, shuffle them so we can hear them. Show us your papers, Marty. The News Guard Service is basically launching in Australia and New Zealand now. So it's been it's been in the pipeline for a fair while. It's been tested in the States. It's it's heavily left leaning, you know, it gave all the people saying the Hunter Biden laptop story was was a Russian misinformation program, a big pass and and deducted Marks of Fox for saying that it wasn't never really altered them back. But and now it's also feeding into what the AI stuff's doing. So it's a social credit system for news. Yeah. Yeah. Have you have you seen those experiments people did with a they they said white people are bad because and it wrote a big essay on the evil of white people. And then if you try the same thing with black people, it says, Oh, I don't know about that. Yeah, like this one's like, are you proud to be? Am I am I allowed to be proud of my this here? It's just that that little filters already in AI. The war, they couldn't help themselves. See, I'm in big trouble when it comes to that because a lot of my heritage is Scottish, which of course is they're just a mixing pot of, you know, Vikings and Romans and mad cat Maccadas. Yeah. And then, you know, ginger people and even Spaniards, you know, there's a lot of I qualifies what's called a black Scott. They call them that the people who had descended from Spanish Amada sailors who came ashore when ships sunk. Right. And so we've got curly hair and olive skin and everything is weird. That come from no, but the Celts had that dark hair, dark eyes. It's a very prominent feature in a lot of Celts. Yeah. So, you know, that's when people start talking about colonialism. That's just a tiny blip in the end dot of even if you're talking about Anglo-Saxon heritage, that's well after the Romans and well after the, you know, the Celts and well after all the other tribes that all got disappeared by the Romans and things like that. There's no such thing as this white. Just bollocks. It's total bollocks. Well, you know, something I'm fond of saying is and this is completely off the off the news guard thing. But women thought that the CIA and the and the Rockefellers were doing them a big favor of sponsoring feminism. But what they were sponsoring was division and demoralization of their hatred of men. Yeah. And, you know, I sort of nod my head and say, maybe they're kind of doing the same thing to you, bro. No, the patriarchy won that, though, because now we introduce transgenderism and that's the patriarchy taking back feminism. Well, it's certainly gone, gone to war with it, right? So I just laugh at all these women that are out there sticking up for these. You know, transgender athletes saying that they deserve to be able to compete with other women and all this was they're just cutting their own throats and they just don't realize what they're doing. I laugh at women protesting the use of fossil fuels, you know, no feminism without fossil fuels, ladies. Oh, dear, no washing machines. Yeah, look, I didn't take any notice of the trans rubbish, you know, I for ages, I just way I would not look at that problem. That was a mistake for us to do that, you know, to look away. Yeah. Yeah, I know that doesn't affect me. I'm not worried. No, one of the one of the reasons that I really didn't want to go there was because for the last 50 years, we've watched women do this to men, like completely grind them down. And now then the trans thing came in and, you know, their targets were women and women got a little bit of a taste of their own medicine, especially feminism. But anyway, I've had to alter my view now because I can see how diabolical this has been. But, you know, women didn't help themselves by taking on all this patriarchy nonsense. I mean, I've never been a feminist. I never will be. I never want to be. I don't think it's a glorious label at all. You weren't even a third wave feminist. No, none of it. You know, I like men too much on the whole. I mean, some of them are pigs and stupid, deeply stupid. But I've always been treated very well by men. I mean, that's been my good luck. Men are great. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if you look at the list of things that Jacinda Ardern wanted to include in the hate speech legislation, it was basically everything, age, sex. So, you know, she'll get what she wants. She's got this global thing now, you know, swanning around, you know, tut-tutting and wagging. It's a special envoy. A special envoy for head waving, arm flapping. So it's a special envoy for the Christchurch call. Yeah. What is this Christchurch call? It sounds like some sort of rare bird that's no, it's religious can call. If you look at the use of the word call, it's the call to prayer. And I like to imbue this sort of stuff with the trappings of religion, because it is kind of standing in for religion. Yeah, kind of getting in the way of God. It's absolutely taken over religion. The Christchurch call came to your point being some sort of squawking, be coined, be coined, be coined, be coined. You can hear it in the morning. You can hear it at sunset. You can hear it as you're going off to sleep as well. It's a ubiquitous, rare, hardly ever seen. Be coined in more. Folks, should we should we wrap up? Do you have any closing thoughts for this for the show? Marty was just about to say something epically profound. I just know it. Look, you know, I mean, it's tough to it's tough to look at it. It's you know, when a whole lot of blind people are feeling different bits of elephant and elephant and they're describing what they see. You know, and it sounds like a whole lot of different things. And so, you know, these things that we've kind of just skipped over, you know, the the the news filter, the review of of the online safety stuff, being able to stop your bank accounts. They're all connected at the slowing down of the economy. It reminds me of the very connected useless hapless opposition. It reminds me of that little joke we used to have when we were kids, you know, how many elephants can you fit in a mini and you'd say four on your two in the front, two in the back. And so how do you know there's an elephant in your in your fridge? Oh, there's a footprint in the bud. All these things are footprints in the butter, right? Leading up to us, you know, after the third elephants in the fridge, we can't shut the fridge door anymore. And how do you know there's four elephants in the fridge? Well, because there's a mini parked outside. And that's when we're going to realize that all of these little footprints in the butter, the things that Marty just raised, that Farzan was talking about, that I ever were talking about. And all these people that are talking about are the footprints in the butter. But the reality is, there's a mini parked outside with four elephants in it. What are we going to do? Well, I'm a hunter and I know what you do with elephants. Parallel communities, Marty, they really matter. Parallel communities. And then that doesn't mean 15 minute cities. No, I mean, the the idea that the voices for freedom when they originally came out and they got hammered for this, but they were completely correct. And it's we must be ungovernable. Yeah. Yeah, we have to learn to say no. You know, you need to stay at home. No, you need to wear a mask. No, not doing that. You have to take this vaccine. No, you need to comply with this arbitrary rule. And then when you have complied with it, it's not going to be good enough because we would have changed it. No, not doing that. We have to learn to say no. Yeah, you have to say that over and over and over again to these politicians. They only ever react when you smack them in the face. I could I could I could make a lot of money teaching people how to stand up and say no, I mean, it comes quite natural to me. Perhaps that should be my next book. Well, I was a change manager for a bank and I learned to say no every time a program had tipped up at my desk with a change form. No, there's a great virtue in being able to say no, get stuffed. Well, that's why I had the job, because I just say I didn't care. I just said no, not doing that change, scheduling. And you can't how do you parent children without going? No, that's nonsense. No, be quiet, leave the room. Yeah, it's like a nine year old says, I want to be a girl dad. No, don't be stupid, go to your room. But no, what the parents do now is oh, OK, I need to understand you. OK, how about you take these drugs? Yeah, it's madness. Oh, my goodness, let's all go to counselling. We'll talk about it together. No. How about you get to go about the end it? That's how we stop the agendas. We just say no. We just say no. Yep. Well, some thanks, everyone, for a wonderful episode of the political panel. Thanks, thank you, thank you, Tanei. And hopefully we'll give you back with a gong next time or maybe a kazoo. Thank you, Tanei, but I never want to hear that fascist buzzer again. I have this electrode wired directly to. I like that. That's much better. Oh, much better. That's a beautiful sound on the ear. Yeah, that's soothing. That would make us stop because we just. Why didn't you use that all the way through? Well, normally I try to get permission before doing anything off the plan. But yeah, I like that. Should I trust the man? Tanei, you need to understand something, right? It's better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission. All right. Thanks, guys. OK, see you later. Bye.